8/11/08 Time and Newsweek covers = CIA recruiting racism.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

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There is zero evidence that Time and Newsweek collaborate on their covers, and plenty of evidence that this "psyop" is located between your ears, Mr. Manatee.

Both Time and Newsweek were exposed in the 1970s as being CIA tools.
Carl Bernstein wrote it up the leaked Church Committee report on CIA media
in the October 22, 1977 issue of Rolling Stone Magazine.
http://carlbernstein.com/magazine_cia_and_media.php

That's probably why the CIA magazines both put Bruce Springsteen on the cover as decoys the very same week with their (pre-dated) October 27, 1977 issues.

Remember in the 70s when Bruce Springsteen found himself on the covers of Time and Newsweek simultaneously? PSYOP?

Thanks for pointing that out and reinforcing my assertion, Pan.


Bob Parry told Gary Webb about being at a hotshot dinner in Wash. DC as a new Newsweek employee. The table had the director of the CIA and generals and such there.

Parry made the social mistake of mentioning the ongoing IranContra hearings and his Newsweek boss told him that 'there some things it was best for the public not to know' as the rest of the table smiled reinforcement of this Important Insider Message for the Newbie.

CIA media takes care of its own.

[professorpan]

Hugh, you take establish facts and then extrapolate into utter nonsense.

Let's address Bernstein's article that you hold up as a key to your ideas.

Both Time and Newsweek were exposed in the 1970s as being CIA tools.
Carl Bernstein wrote it up the leaked Church Committee report on CIA media
in the October 22, 1977 issue of Rolling Stone Magazine.

Bernstein, elaborating on the Church Commission findings, shows that individuals from Time and Newsweek had briefed the CIA and gave cover to foreign agents. He also points that management in some news organizations influenced editorial policy at the bequest of the CIA. There is NOTHING, i.e. nada, zero, nil to support your argument that the covers of both Time and Newsweek are micromanaged to present some kind of racist, subliminal psyop, nor that there is the anything near the type of total control over all content by the CIA that you claim.

In your typical confirmation-bias driven bloviating, you take documented facts -- that the CIA exerted *some* control over *some* media executives and *some* reporters -- and jump to the conclusion that the CIA currently CONTROLS both magazines, Yahoo!'s Web page, the placement of films on the shelf at your local Blockbuster, the names of actors in movies, etc. etc.

You regularly claim that various people and articles support your ideas when, in fact, they do nothing of the sort. This is just another example.

[MinM]

[MinM]

Both Time and Newsweek were exposed in the 1970s as being CIA tools.
Carl Bernstein wrote it up the leaked Church Committee...

viewtopic.php?p=436200#p436200

[Nordic]

FINALLY. I just realized who Hugh reminds me of.



That took .... how long? I'm amazed I didn't think of it before.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

Nordic, your ad hominem post is irrelevant and would be sanctioned on an honest discusstion board.
But since you injected this CIA-Hollywood show...

Go to the toy aisle in your local national chain pharmacy, Walgreens or CVS.
You'll see toys based on television shows....like 'The Office.'

Contrast the image of neurotic nerds standing around stacks of paper with
'space warrior' action-adventure toys.

See "Overton Window' of perception management using unacceptable options to promote other options as Military Recruiting.

[MinM]

[Simulist]

One of the stories advertised right above his head is, "Are You Ready to Eat Jellyfish?"

And after seeing that picture, I feel like I just did...

[Nordic]

I like how they photoshopped a reflection of the halo into his forehead.

[Simulist]

I like how they photoshopped a reflection of the halo into his forehead.

Thanks for the clarification, Nordic. I'd just assumed, incorrectly as it turns out, that they had Photoshopped out the Mark of the Beast.

[Nordic]

Something about that halo makes me think of the child's game "candyland".

[JackRiddler]

Well at least he gets that, given that he missed the "first black president" label when it went to Clinton.

Sullivan's article has yet to be posted on the Web.

Keep in mind Sullivan is firmly parapolitics resistant, but likes conspiracy theory if it's sufficiently gossipy and gothic. He was convinced Palin's giving birth was faked, which you should remember from 2008. I wonder if he's going to drop any insinuations or deniable acrostic-hints that Obama actually is gay - which you'll know has been floated around here.

Or here, counterpunch recycling the at least mildly dubious Larry Sinclair claims, with some Presidential Personal Body Count thrown in:

http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/05/04/ ... bama/print

Weekend Edition May 4-6, 2012
Presidential Sexuality
The Bearding of Barack Obama?
by MICHAEL DICKINSON

‘Beard’ - a man or woman used as a cover for a gay partner.

This month’s edition of ‘Vanity Fair’ features an article entitled “Young Barack Obama in Love: A Girlfriend’s Secret Diary” which features entries from a diary kept by Genevieve Cook, daughter of an Australian diplomat, who was one of the previously unknown ‘girlfriends’ of the 22 year old future President in New York in the early eighties.

Taken from a new book: ‘Barack Obama – The Story’ by David Maraniss, the diary extracts show Genevieve’s perception of the young man’s character as their relationship progresses. On Sundays Obama would lounge around bare-chested, wearing a blue and white sarong, drinking coffee and solving the New York Times crossword puzzle.

“His warmth can be deceptive. Tho he speaks sweet words and can be open and trusting, there is also that coolness—and I begin to have an inkling of some things about him that could get to me.

And as you say, it’s not a question of intent on your part—or deliberate withholding—you feel accessible, and you are, in disarming ways. But I feel that you carefully filter everything in your mind and heart—legitimate, admirable, really—a strength, a necessity in terms of some kind of integrity. But there’s something also there of smoothed veneer, of guardedness … but I’m still left with this feeling of … a bit of a wall—the veil.

Barack—still intrigues me, but so much going on beneath the surface, out of reach. Guarded, controlled.”

(As if he’s withholding something. In a closet, perhaps?)

To another so-called Columbia graduate girlfriend, Alex McNear, intellectualising Obama wrote: “You seem surprised at TS Eliot’s irreconcilable ambivalence; don’t you share this ambivalence yourself, Alex?”

It seems that Obama himself did. For in another book written 5 years ago called ‘Barack Obama & Larry Sinclair: Cocaine, Sex, Lies, Murder’ the author Larry Sinclair claims to have twice given the budding President a blowjob in Chicago in 1999, once in the back of a hired limousine, the other in his hotel room. On each occasion Obama was reputedly smoking crack cocaine.

Further, Sinclair claims that Obama was involved in an intimate and sexual relationship with Donald Young – the openly gay choirmaster at Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago which Obama attended for 20 years.

The 47 year old deacon was found murdered in his flat execution style with bullets to the back of his head shortly before the Iowa Causcus in 2007 which helped sweep Obama into power. Two other young black male parishioners – Larry Bland and Nate Spencer, both gay, were found dead in similar circumstances within 40 days of each other.

Sinclair believes that the murder of Donald Young was an attempt to protect Barack Obama’s secrets, and the Obama White House is trying to have his book withdrawn from circulation to avoid any further embarrassments about Obama’s homosexual past and the possible involvement of his top lieutenants in Young’s murder, which has yet to be solved by the Chicago police.

Of the two books the national media has shown a lot of attention to David Maraniss’ latest Obama biography but scant if any to Larry Sinclair’s scandalous account.

Opining more on the writer T.S. Eliot to ‘girlfriend’ Alex McNear in one of his literary epistles the young Obama wrote:

“Facing what he perceives as a choice between ecstatic chaos and lifeless mechanistic order, he accedes to maintaining a separation of asexual purity and brutal sexual reality.”

Did Obama make the same choice?


Michael Dickinson lives in Istanbul. He can be contacted via his website http://yabanji.tripod.com/

Any gay past activity for Obama would be like Monica times ten.

[Simulist]

A gay Obama is an idea I was ready to dismiss outright, Jack. Then I read this:

Further, Sinclair claims that Obama was involved in an intimate and sexual relationship with Donald Young – the openly gay choirmaster at Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago which Obama attended for 20 years.

The 47 year old deacon was found murdered in his flat execution style with bullets to the back of his head shortly before the Iowa Causcus in 2007 which helped sweep Obama into power. Two other young black male parishioners – Larry Bland and Nate Spencer, both gay, were found dead in similar circumstances within 40 days of each other.

And that's indeed interesting.

Thanks for the article.

[JackRiddler]

A gay Obama is an idea I was ready to dismiss outright, Jack. Then I read this:

Further, Sinclair claims that Obama was involved in an intimate and sexual relationship with Donald Young – the openly gay choirmaster at Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago which Obama attended for 20 years.

The 47 year old deacon was found murdered in his flat execution style with bullets to the back of his head shortly before the Iowa Causcus in 2007 which helped sweep Obama into power. Two other young black male parishioners – Larry Bland and Nate Spencer, both gay, were found dead in similar circumstances within 40 days of each other.

And that's indeed interesting.

Thanks for the article.

The idea that any man has had gay encounters or may be in the closet and bearded is totally pedestrian to me.

The part you find interesting is particularly dubious to me. Why? Because as far as I can tell it's post-facto. Three people are murdered in Chicago and afterward, Sinclair, who is promoting his claims by claiming an old porn novel he wrote is about Obama, strings these into the narrative. I'd be very careful about saying anything about this without massive research of the cases individually. There's a planet's worth of crime to pin on the USG and its officials including the present administration without falling for the constant demon myth-making around personalities that feeds into all the bullshit politics of distraction. I pointed this out for obvious reasons: as a theme that may come up.

Here's an earlier thread on Sinclair:
http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/view ... =8&t=18639

Obama accuser has long rap sheet
By BEN SMITH | 6/18/08 7:58 AM EST Text Size:



The Pueblo County Sheriff's website, which pictures Sinclair under the word 'Wanted,' cites felony theft and forgery charges.



Larry Sinclair is wanted in Colorado, but you can catch him today at the National Press Club.

Sinclair is familiar to political junkies and reporters as the source of outlandish allegations about Senator Barack Obama, tales that began with sex and drugs and moved on to murder.

The Duluth, Minn., resident is the sort of figure who appears at the margins of every presidential campaign, and both Presidents George W. Bush and Bill Clinton had their own obscure accusers with dramatic allegations. But as the old media ignores him, Sinclair has taken full advantage of the Internet, and a video in which he makes his claims that have been viewed more than 900,000 times on YouTube.
This afternoon, he's reserved the Holeman Lounge at downtown Washington's National Press Club
to try to lend his story the legitimacy that comes with national media attention.

Sinclair's biography, though, may get in the way of that pitch: Public records and court filings reveal that he has a 27-year criminal record, with a specialty in crimes involving deceit. The record includes forgery charges in two states, one of which drew Sinclair a 16-year jail sentence. The Pueblo County, Colo., Sheriff's Office also has an outstanding warrant for Sinclair's arrest for forging an acquaintance's signature and stealing her tax refunds.

"It is what it is," said Sinclair's spokesman, Montgomery Blair Sibley, of his client's criminal record. "He's not hiding from it, he's not denying it."

Sinclair has, however, addressed elements of his criminal past on his own blog and in court filings punctuated by unusual spellings and capitalizations.

Addressing the Pueblo County theft charges, Sinclair swore in a 2004 affidavit that his "ALLEGED VICTIM SEEKS TO USE DEFENDANT AS SCAPE GOAT FOR HER HUSBANDS AND BROTHERS PROBLEMS WITH MEXICAN DRUG DEALERS."

Sinclair's affidavit, which he posted to his blog, accompanied a request to a Colorado judge to dismiss the warrant on the grounds that Sinclair was "disabled with [a] severe spine injury and nerve damage," that returning to Colorado would put his life in danger, and that he was "terminally ill."

Sinclair, who is still alive, is 46, stands 5'7", and weights 168 pounds, according to arrest records. Colorado records list him with 13 aliases, including "Larye Vizcarra Avila" and "Mohammed Gahanan." His story has generally been ignored by the mainstream media, because he's been unable to substantiate his allegations. He has come to public attention recently, however, because his planned appearance at the National Press Club drew complaints from a wide array of prominent liberal bloggers, led by Firedoglake's Jane Hamsher. Their petition to prevent Sinclair from renting space at the club – which bloggers feared would lend him credibility – drew more than 11,000 signatures.

Press Club President Sylvia Smith said Sinclair had rented space at the club, which doesn't censor speakers.

"I'm not aware that we've ever turned anybody away for content," she said, adding that Sinclair's allegations "don't seem very credible."

Politico isn't reprinting Sinclair's allegations because they are unsubstantiated.

This February, the website Whitehouse.com reportedly offered Sinclair $100,000 if he could pass a polygraph test verifying his claims. He took them up on it, and the site said in a press release that the polygraph organizers said his results "indicated deception." Sinclair then suggested the polygraph's sponsors had been bribed to skew the results against him, an allegation his lawyer, Sibley, said he would expand on at his press conference.

Sibley is best known as the lawyer for the "D.C. Madam," the late Deborah Jeane Palfrey. Earlier this year, the Florida Bar Association suspended Sibley's license to practice law, in part for being a "vexatious litigant," a suspension that applies in Washington, D.C., as well.

Wednesday, Whitehouse.com has scheduled a competing press conference outside the National Press Club to discuss the results of the polygraph.

Sinclair's brushes with the government long predate his recent interest in Senator Obama. The details of his criminal record surfaced after he filed a defamation suit in federal court in Washington, D.C., against three anonymous online critics with names like TubeSockTedD who had written, among other claims, that he was living in a mental institution at the time he allegedly met Obama. Sinclair denies the claim.

Politico

[Simulist]

A gay Obama is an idea I was ready to dismiss outright, Jack. Then I read this:

Further, Sinclair claims that Obama was involved in an intimate and sexual relationship with Donald Young – the openly gay choirmaster at Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago which Obama attended for 20 years.

The 47 year old deacon was found murdered in his flat execution style with bullets to the back of his head shortly before the Iowa Causcus in 2007 which helped sweep Obama into power. Two other young black male parishioners – Larry Bland and Nate Spencer, both gay, were found dead in similar circumstances within 40 days of each other.

And that's indeed interesting.

Thanks for the article.

The idea that any man has had gay encounters or may be in the closet and bearded is totally pedestrian to me.

Well, that may be because you live in a big city, where there are a whole lot of us gay people... and... pedestrians.

But yes, it happens. A whole lot more than people think it does.

The part you find interesting is particularly dubious to me.

I didn't say I found it credible, merely "interesting." But only enough to listen to the words of the messenger and, like Mary, "keep all these things and ponder them" in my heart — instead of, you know, just dismissing them. Like I did before.

Why? Because as far as I can tell it's post-facto. Three people are murdered in Chicago and afterward, Sinclair, who is promoting his claims by publishing a porn novel he claims is about Obama, strings these into the narrative. I'd be very careful about saying anything about this without massive research of the cases individually. There's a planet's worth of crime to pin on the USG and its officials including the present administration without falling for the constant demon myth-making around personalities that feeds into all the bullshit politics of distraction. I pointed this out for obvious reasons: as a theme that may come up.

Yeah. It may. Which is why I thanked you. Because, as you put it, "Any gay past activity for Obama would be like Monica times ten." Exactly, even if that gay past is only an accused — but heavily promoted — one.

So, again, thank you.