Does Google Know Too Much?

[psynapz]

Who actually has the access to their top-level interfaces for the Ocean of Petabytes?

Whoever asks for it with a real serious look on their face:

Google only shares personal information with other companies or individuals outside of Google in the following limited circumstances:
[...]
* We have a good faith belief that access, use, preservation or disclosure of such information is reasonably necessary to (a) satisfy any applicable law, regulation, legal process or enforceable governmental request

scratch that, whoever fills out the right form satisfactorily:

How often are you asked by governments to provide data on users?

Like other technology and communications companies, we receive requests from government agencies around the world to provide information about users of our services and products. To help increase transparency about these requests we have created the Government Requests Tool, which shows the number of requests that we have received that relate primarily to criminal investigations. For more information about the tool and the nature of these requests, please check the Government Requests Tool FAQ.

but to hell with that, whoever has access to this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A

or, on the other end of pipe #2, this:


so FWIW...

[Wombaticus Rex]

^^Wow, thank you for that.

[hanshan]

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Who actually has the access to their top-level interfaces for the Ocean of Petabytes?

Whoever asks for it with a real serious look on their face:

Google only shares personal information with other companies or individuals outside of Google in the following limited circumstances:
[...]
* We have a good faith belief that access, use, preservation or disclosure of such information is reasonably necessary to (a) satisfy any applicable law, regulation, legal process or enforceable governmental request

scratch that, whoever fills out the right form satisfactorily:

How often are you asked by governments to provide data on users?

Like other technology and communications companies, we receive requests from government agencies around the world to provide information about users of our services and products. To help increase transparency about these requests we have created the Government Requests Tool, which shows the number of requests that we have received that relate primarily to criminal investigations. For more information about the tool and the nature of these requests, please check the Government Requests Tool FAQ.

but to hell with that, whoever has access to this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A

or, on the other end of pipe #2, this:


so FWIW...

yeah, cool, tx

dispositon of EFF suit ? Anyone?

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[Joe Hillshoist]

Sapient machines are cool. Just got to stop them trying to take over the world.

Why would it bother?



Cheers Psynapz.

[Gnomad]

Whoever asks for it with a real serious look on their face:

That is the gist of the matter.
All you can do is maybe ward off some advertisers tracking you, but these guys will pretty much do what they like with that mountain of realtime data.

[psynapz]

Not feeding that datastream is incredibly difficult. Impossible, even, in certain professions. Unless you don't want to get ahead in them.

I have all the schematics in my head of how to live completely below this new radar, not feeding either the information monster or the financial services monster. It's expensive, it's inconvenient, and it's unattractive to mainstreamy spouses, especially when there's children to be raised sociably. I'm at a loss as to how to reconcile these opposing forces with anonymous-autonomous-debtless countercultural trail-blazing ideals.

[hanshan]

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Whoever asks for it with a real serious look on their face:

That is the gist of the matter.
All you can do is maybe ward off some advertisers tracking you,
but these guys will pretty much do what they like with that mountain
of realtime data.

yeah...unfortunately


(ready to rock-n-roll)

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[eyeno]

Not feeding that datastream is incredibly difficult. Impossible, even, in certain professions. Unless you don't want to get ahead in them.

I have all the schematics in my head of how to live completely below this new radar, not feeding either the information monster or the financial services monster. It's expensive, it's inconvenient, and it's unattractive to mainstreamy spouses, especially when there's children to be raised sociably. I'm at a loss as to how to reconcile these opposing forces with anonymous-autonomous-debtless countercultural trail-blazing ideals.

I agree. I think you just coined the famous $64 dollar question on this issue.

Tread carefully. This sort of same thinking on my part helped lead to a divorce.

Good luck Sir.

[psynapz]

Tread carefully. This sort of same thinking on my part helped lead to a divorce.

Good luck Sir.

Ah, thank you. I should say that she actually provides a great balancing force. Looking back to when we met (which was not pre-RI), I can see that I was off the deep end, in mid-swan-dive. It was impractical. It might have been interesting, but it was by no means a peaceful, constructive existence to continue having as it was. She balances that, and I've brought her to her own radical departures from the mainstream. Vaccines are a case in point. She won't read RI, and doesn't care to independently study a damn thing I tell her, but I almost get a woody every time she goes off on a little righteously-indignant vaccine rant. I think we'll do fine. It's the kids I worry about. And my own hypocracy.

[Stephen Morgan]

Sapient machines are cool. Just got to stop them trying to take over the world.

Why would it bother?

A profound question. After all, we've never had a machine with motives. One of the things that would only come with sapience. To accrue greater resources for expansion (ie hunger)? To eliminate a threat to its survival (ie fear)? Any number of reasons.

[Simulist]

Does Google Know Too Much?

Do Americans know too little?

Who's buried in Grant's tomb?

Is the moon bigger than an elephant?

Is the bear Catholic? Does a pope shit in the woods?

(And other softball questions…)

[Joe Hillshoist]

Sapient machines are cool. Just got to stop them trying to take over the world.

Why would it bother?

A profound question. After all, we've never had a machine with motives. One of the things that would only come with sapience. To accrue greater resources for expansion (ie hunger)? To eliminate a threat to its survival (ie fear)? Any number of reasons.

I think I was thinking about a network, not an individual machine actually.


On reflection, definitely, cos it was the connections that made me wonder about the emergence of sentience. Apart from that tho ...

Same questions you asked about motive and hunger and all the potential things still apply tho. And cos we are reproductive things, and life itself is a reproductive process, thats how life deals with change, then reproduction is a pretty significant motivation along with survival, in fact the two are pretty strongly linked.

But a network might deal with change differently. For it, survival might not be associated with food and reproduction, it might be associated with transmission of signals. So it would be driven by increasing its resilience and redundancy, not by feeding to reproduce.