$2-Billion Mind-Control Lawsuit

[jingofever]

As I wrote above- KH from Dealey Plaza.The "JFK names"- specific bit which that disinfoteer is distorting into woo.

You also wrote, "Currently, only RI has a (scattered) database on keyword hijacking..." The entirety of keyword hijacking is scattered on the RI database, not just the Dealey Plaza bits. You claimed that it was your Project Paperclip posts that resulted in the WP column. Is there a number of posts such that any lower number requires an obscure blog to counter and any higher number requires a national newspaper?

This isn't perfect, but a search for the terms "keyword hijacking jfk" results in 82 of your posts while "keyword hijacking paperclip" results in 38 posts. Just "paperclip" results in 92 posts while "jfk" results in 494 posts. So it isn't the volume of posts they are worried about.

That disinfo blogger is also targeting Alex Constantine and directing people to another disinfo site. More contamination by association.

You read the disinfo site, right? It's right there. Not sure how you can read it and not see what it is.

I searched his site for "Alex Constantine" and found two results (but there are probably more). He seems to like him:

Alex Constantine exposed the FMSF as a CIA front in his books "Psychic Dictatorship in the U.S.A." and "Virtual Government." For more information, search for Alex Constantine and False Memory Syndrome Foundation.

Is that the 'targeting'? I think you are too quick to smear people as disinfo agents just because they have ideas different from yours.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

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So it isn't the volume of posts they are worried about.

Content is what worries TPTB and evokes more haystack around the needles.

That disinfo blogger is also targeting Alex Constantine and directing people to another disinfo site. More contamination by association.

You read the disinfo site, right? It's right there. Not sure how you can read it and not see what it is.

I searched his site for "Alex Constantine" and found two results (but there are probably more). He seems to like him:

Alex Constantine exposed the FMSF as a CIA front in his books "Psychic Dictatorship in the U.S.A." and "Virtual Government." For more information, search for Alex Constantine and False Memory Syndrome Foundation.

Is that the 'targeting'? I think you are too quick to smear people as disinfo agents just because they have ideas different from yours.

"Ideas different from yours?!!!" Are you kidding? Oh brother.
This is steaming disinfo horseshit targeting a few closely connected topics.

When someone claims that people with certain names have been planted around them by CIA for their entire life, that is an effort to both appear crazy AND discredit the use of psyops by CIA.

You call this an "idea different from yours?" Puh-leeeeze!

And then, having rolled in horseshit, what else they mention gets tarnished with stink, too.
>Like anyone REALLY being targeted for harassment or suppression in the first place. It happens.
>And keyword hijacking. That happens for decades.
>And anyone who says "this is too much to be a coincidence."
>And the topic of JFK. The single biggest cover-up for decades.
>And Alex Constantine. The single most adamant exposer of CIA.
>And Mae Brussell. A brilliant and dedicated grass-roots researcher who led the way for the likes of Alex Constantine.

Just look at the name of the blog, "BrusselSprouts."

This refers to admirers and investigators following in the footsteps of the legendary Mae Brussell...who do not trust gatekeepers... as outlined by Alex Constantine on his own blog where he quotes -ahem- a certain Hugh Manatee:
http://alexconstantine.blogspot.com/2007/07/re-controlled-left-mae-brussell-v.html

[Penguin]

Just look at the name of the blog, "BrusselSprouts."

Selling paper since 1962 - the year Marilyn died.

"On May 19, 1962, Monroe made her last significant public appearance, singing "Happy Birthday, Mr. President" at a televised birthday party for President John F. Kennedy at Madison Square Garden. The dress that she wore to the event, specially designed and made for her by Jean Louis, sold at an auction in 1999 for USD $1.26 million.[127]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marilyn_Mo ... e_Kennedys



Funny how they work on so many levels. Fudging of both 9/11 - PTech and the Kennedy murder! Brilliant...And doesnt that P look like a roll of toilet paper? Oh yes it does...

[orz]

Hugh, whenever you cross that line and start claiming that national news stories or hollywood movies were created in response to posts you made on some conspiracy forum, I get to literally rather than rhetorically label you a paranoid schizophrenic.

One rule of counterpropaganda strategy: When the enemy responds to you, you've made them feel vulnerable.

Second rule: when your ideas are as futile, illogical, self defeating and harmless as 'keyword hijacking' theories, then they don't even need to respond to you.

[jingofever]

Content is what worries TPTB and evokes more haystack around the needles.

So you're saying that they are more worried about Project Paperclip than the Kennedy assassination? The Kennedy assassination only merits the attention of a pitiful little blog?

"Ideas different from yours?!!!" Are you kidding? Oh brother.
This is steaming disinfo horseshit targeting a few closely connected topics.

When someone claims that people with certain names have been planted around them by CIA for their entire life, that is an effort to both appear crazy AND discredit the use of psyops by CIA.

You call this an "idea different from yours?" Puh-leeeeze!

You know, there are probably a lot of people who would look at your work and think it's all "steaming disinfo horseshit." I just think it's horseshit that doesn't need anything - not a lightly trafficked blog, not a major newspaper - to be discredited.

And then, having rolled in horseshit, what else they mention gets tarnished with stink, too.

Too bad nobody reads that blog. But anyway, Matt Beal really was a reporter and apparently a reader of Probe. He's a real person and maybe even has his own ideas.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

jingofever, can you name a disinfo site? Do you know what the qualities are?

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So you're saying that they are more worried about Project Paperclip than the Kennedy assassination? The Kennedy assassination only merits the attention of a pitiful little blog?

No, I'm not saying any such thing.

The JFK thing has had an astounding amount of haystack thrown around it (45 years and still going) but most Americans suspect both a cover-up and an inside job. That is a lost cause that can only be ameliorated somewhat with each new generation of ignorant youth and keeping alive the meme "paranoid conspiracy theorist.'

You know, there are probably a lot of people who would look at your work and think it's all "steaming disinfo horseshit." I just think it's horseshit that doesn't need anything - not a lightly trafficked blog, not a major newspaper - to be discredited.

Do tell me which cognitive-social-media science and psyops-history I've posted you deny. Is it interference theory or inoculation theory? Do tell.

I doubt you know much of the science and history of cognitive counterpropaganda.
Most people don't.

And if you aren't interested enough to do major research, you will remain so.
Like most people who know of 'Rambo' but not Greg Rambo.
Or "Fonzi" but not Gaeton Fonzi.

Too bad nobody reads that blog.

Yet. Things start small. And SEO has a way of making small things seem bigger.

But anyway, Matt Beal really was a reporter and apparently a reader of Probe. He's a real person and maybe even has his own ideas.

Why do you think that you know who is behind the blog? Face value? Oh. I see.
Probe and Alex Constantine are two major exposers of alphabet crimes. Think some effort would be made to discredit them? Uh, yes.

So you think that old 'Mr. Beal' really had people planted around him his entire life and he's an honest and thoughtful person?
If so, I see why your judgement of me and the science of cognitive counterpropaganda....is erroneous.

[jingofever]

Then you remain ignorant of the science and history of cognitive counterpropaganda.
Most people are. And if you aren't interested enought to do major research, you will remain so. Like most people who know of 'Rambo' but not Greg Rambo.

Please tell me all about Greg Rambo.

Too bad nobody reads that blog.

Yet. Things start small. And SEO has a way of making small things seem bigger.

Wouldn't they keep that blog updated? It is essentially dead.

Why do you think that you know who is behind the blog? Face value? Oh. I see.
Probe and Alex Constantine are two major exposers of alphabet crimes. Think some effort would be made to discredit them? Uh, yes.

A better question is: why do you think Matt Beal is not behind that website? Because you don't like some of the posts? Because you think you can detect a psyop?

So you think that old 'Mr. Beal' really had people planted around him his entire life and he's an honest and thoughtful person?
If so, I see why your judgement of me and the science of cognitive counterpropaganda....is erroneous.

I think he honestly believes the CIA planted people around him. I think he is insane. That should tell you enough about my judgment of you and the pseudoscience of keyword hijacking.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

Content is what worries TPTB and evokes more haystack around the needles.

So you're saying that they are more worried about Project Paperclip than the Kennedy assassination? The Kennedy assassination only merits the attention of a pitiful little blog?

"Ideas different from yours?!!!" Are you kidding? Oh brother.
This is steaming disinfo horseshit targeting a few closely connected topics.

When someone claims that people with certain names have been planted around them by CIA for their entire life, that is an effort to both appear crazy AND discredit the use of psyops by CIA.

You call this an "idea different from yours?" Puh-leeeeze!

You know, there are probably a lot of people who would look at your work and think it's all "steaming disinfo horseshit." I just think it's horseshit that doesn't need anything - not a lightly trafficked blog, not a major newspaper - to be discredited.

Why, jingofever! You ignored the PROOF of a disinfo site and instead
made an ad hominem attack on me!

You don't admit to facts. You are irrational, not me. I deal in science, history, and logic.
Try it!

[jingofever]

Why, jingofever! You ignored the PROOF of a disinfo site and instead
made an ad hominem attack on me!

You don't admit to facts. You are irrational, not me. I deal in science, history, and logic.
Try it!

Where is the proof? I couldn't get around that bit of ad hominem if I was going to accuse Matt Beal of insanity.

Edit: I see that you must be calling my calling your work 'horseshit' to be the ad hominem. I was pointing out that somebody could have the same reaction to your work as you had to Beal's. Your disinformation accusation carries no weight. And I called your work horseshit so nobody would think that I was accusing you of being a disinfo agent.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

Then you remain ignorant of the science and history of cognitive counterpropaganda.
Most people are. And if you aren't interested enought to do major research, you will remain so. Like most people who know of 'Rambo' but not Greg Rambo.

Please tell me all about Greg Rambo.

Greg Rambo was the head of the Young Republicans at Kent State when the National Guardsmen wounded 9 and murdered 4 in May, 1970. This set off a firestorm of protest around US campuses and seriously destabilized the Nixon regime.
Greg Rambo was the biggest whistleblower against those National Guardsmen and got thousands of signatures and went to D.C. to get the Nixon administration to get a Grand Jury indictment of those National Guardsmen.
So the attributes of those National Guardsmen (heavily-armed and aggressively shooting up a storm) were applied to the whistleblower and viral marketed as war porn starring Sylvester Stallone in a post-Vietnam catharsis for the very real left-behind POWs while the press was being castigated for 'losing the war.' and macho militarism was being revived in pop culture.

Typical counterpropaganda keyword hijacking and meme-reversal for interference and inoculation theory.

Too bad nobody reads that blog.

Yet. Things start small. And SEO has a way of making small things seem bigger.

Wouldn't they keep that blog updated? It is essentially dead.

I don't know what they are going to do with it. Maybe amplify it later in case exposure of psyops culture grows.

When "Fonzi" was first a character on 'Happy Days,' he was a minor character.
But as Gaeton Fonzi's role on the Church Committee (under Schweiker) and then House Select Committee on Assassinations developed, 'the Fonz' took over the show. And then he became an expression for 'not credible,' "jumped the shark."

Why do you think that you know who is behind the blog? Face value? Oh. I see.
Probe and Alex Constantine are two major exposers of alphabet crimes. Think some effort would be made to discredit them? Uh, yes.

A better question is: why do you think Matt Beal is not behind that website? Because you don't like some of the posts? Because you think you can detect a psyop?

I've seen many disinfo sites and that one has the usual characteristics, a wild distortion of something real to generate incredulity and then affirming of credible sources to tarnish them.

So you think that old 'Mr. Beal' really had people planted around him his entire life and he's an honest and thoughtful person?
If so, I see why your judgement of me and the science of cognitive counterpropaganda....is erroneous.

I think he honestly believes the CIA planted people around him. I think he is insane.

You have no reason to believe this. You're just blowing in 'his' wind.

Why don't you think 'he' is pretending and just throwing up a bullshit storm like Phillip H. Krapf who went from editing the LATimes to writing about diplomacy between "aliens" from outer space and the USG?
Now, give a really good reason. This is important.

So you think that 'he' is both crazy as a loon AND just COINCIDENTLY drawn to the most credible exposers of alphabet crimes like Probe Magazine, Mae Brussell, and Alex Constantine? Hmm.

Again, tell me about what you think is a disinfo site and the characteristics.

That should tell you enough about my judgment of you and the pseudoscience of keyword hijacking.

Oh, indeed it does. You don't know much about the subject.

But then hardly anyone does. Psyops is an elite science that few know exists and even fewer understand.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

Oh, do please elaborate on your dismissal of "pseudoscience." I dare you.

That should tell you enough about my judgment of you and the pseudoscience of keyword hijacking.

Oh, indeed it does. You don't know much about the subject. Almost nothing. Yet you do go on. Hmm.

jingofever, you tell me which SPECIFICALLY on the list below is "pseudoscience."
I posted this before and YOU DID NOT IDENTIFY THE "pseudoscience."

Until you do...I dismiss your voiced opinion on the topic of psyops as mere wind, "belief," not fact-based in the least.

1) principles, history, goals, and tactics of propaganda and counterpropaganda based on WWII open source history of OWI and OSS and CIA whistleblowers and PRIMARY SOURCE manuals on psyops leaked and declassified
2) neurolinguistics - mutual exclusivity, Zipf's Law, imprintin, conditioning, mirror neurons, etc.
3) role modeling - child psychology, parasocial interaction, etc.
4) interference theory
5) inoculation theory
6) parasocial interaction
7) elaboration liklihood model
8) mutual exclusivity
9) social affirmation
10) operant conditioning
11) desensitization
12) moral disengagement
13) semantic differential
14) parafoveal priming
15) fuzzy logic.
(Extremely important. This is exploited by creating decoys that are only partly like some other thing so that the brain will apply the association subliminally.
This also allows plausible deniability for the spooks by making it much harder for someone like me to say 'this is really that being subliminally framed.')

[orz]

Hugh I'm guessing you:
- Haven't actually watched the first Rambo movie,
- Haven't read The Society of the Spectacle
- Haven't read Peter Watkins' The Media Crisis
- Etc.

Am I correct?

I've seen many disinfo sites and that one has the usual characteristics,

a) Is a website.
b) I have seen it.
c) I don't understand/like it.
= just more raw fodder for childish conspiracy fan-scene free-association games trivialising any and all serious subjects you care to mention..

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

Hugh I'm guessing you:
- Haven't actually...

orz, I'm guessing you haven't actually read psyops manuals. Have you?

A 'yes' or 'no' will suffice.

[Code Unknown]

Why don't you think 'he' is pretending and just throwing up a bullshit storm like Phillip H. Krapf who went from editing the LATimes to writing about diplomacy between "aliens" from outer space and the USG?

Not quite untrue but somewhat misleading. Editing at the L.A. Times, yes. Editing the L.A. Times? Not quite.

Quoting Wikipedia: "Before retiring, Krapf was employed for 30 years in the field of journalism, most notably as a copy editor for the metro desk of the Los Angeles Times."

[orz]

Hugh I'm guessing you:
- Haven't actually...

orz, I'm guessing you haven't actually read psyops manuals. Have you?

A 'yes' or 'no' will suffice.

Hugh I'm guessing your view of the woods is obstructed by all those damn ugly trees, is this correct?