Obama is an act of system-legitimizing brilliance

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Postby mentalgongfu2 » Fri Nov 14, 2008 4:51 am

Why some people thought Mccain had a chance even as of September is beyond me.


for my part, I thought McCain had a chance in September, and even in October, because the rural midwest where I live is full of many otherwise intelligent people, such as nice little old ladies who have been electorally involved for all their lives, who believe the BS spewed by Fox News and the like that an Obama presidency means America will become a socialist nation run by Islamic militants who want to see our troops killed in action as the 'liberals' desecrate the flag and turn the nation into idolaters and general sinners working against the 'free market Christian family values' stable they think Reagan and Bush represent.

Perhaps it's difficult for those outside of the midwest to realize that well-meaning, patriotic, Constitution-supporting, anti-establishment people buy that sort of thing, but the Coasters have their own blindspots and biases too. Propaganda is effective when targeted to the right audience, and the Republican party has developed a machine that is far superior in supporting that propaganda than the one the Democrats have.

There is more to America than New York and Los Angeles. From my personal anecdotal observation, the McCain campaign had little to no presence in this state, which reflects in Iowa's overwhelming support for Obama. My buddies in Davenport had 3 different crews of Obama supporters knock on their door on ONE particular Saturday, while no McCain campaign crew knocked on the door during the entire election season. Hell, the McCain campaign was advertising to hire people for a stump speech event in Davenport just days before it was scheduled, something Bush, Clinton, and Obama never had to do, yet enough people bought the left-right paradigm presented them to continue to support the McCain/Palin ticket based solely on the false dichotomy that has been so well established.

Meanwhile, as the media helps push talking points to create fear of Obama as 'socialist,' the Federal Reserve gets billions of dollars to buy stakes in companies as part of a bailout (whose mission now has changed inexplicably from putting money into the banking sector to other 'projects'), while no one in any position of authority mentions that government ownership of the means of production is in fact a socialist ideal. (and one I'm not particularly opposed to, in principle, if carried out more honestly)

Never underestimate the ignorance and gullibility of the population, and never think the feeling where you live is the norm. It isn't. Despite the best efforts of the would-be 'elite', there are innumerable factors that determine how people feel about what is going on. And as much as some of us might like to slap a few voters around, the only way to move toward real understanding is to engage in what will inevitably be a frustrating conversation with people who just don't get it. The best we can do is to help them 'get it,' not by pushing anything down anyone's throat, but to communicate and ask honest and open-ended questions to create a dialogue without regard to the conclusions people will draw and instead focusing on the questions that need to be asked.
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Postby 8bitagent » Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:00 am

Code Unknown wrote:
8bitagent wrote:Now, just because the 'elite' engineered the election for Obama, doesnt mean we need to throw the baby out with the yada yada.


Bizarre straw man: if you'd read any of these posts/essays beyond a cursory glance-through you'd realize they're primarily about identifying what Obama has shown himself of himself, period.

8bitagent wrote:It's clear Obama is one cool dude, and someone most of us would welcome into our homes for some xbox, dinner or good conversation. I stand by my "cautiously optimistic/give the guy a chance" position.


This coming from a guy who thought Alex Jones was basically a "cool dude" until fucking yesterday.


Um, no, I found Alex Jones to be an occasional source of interesting angles and food for thought. I wrote on AbovetopSecret in 2004 that I thought Alex Jone's style, even from his clip in Waking Life, was too much too stomach. I had some beers with Alex Jones at the LA 9/11 Truth conference, along with that Loose Change crew...I didnt feel too proud to be a "conspiracy activist".

I'll tell you who in conspiratainment land I have long admired and do think is a real cool dude: David Icke.

We know Obama's voting record has been pretty status quo. We know he only got to be our "choice" because it was engineered that way.
I'm just saying, things aren't written in stone. We know JFK turned away from his masters later in his brief stint as President. I don't have terribly much Hope(tm) for Lord Obama, but if anything I find him a welcome breath of fresh air.
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Postby 8bitagent » Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:09 am

mentalgongfu2 wrote:

Never underestimate the ignorance and gullibility of the population, and never think the feeling where you live is the norm. It isn't. Despite the best efforts of the would-be 'elite', there are innumerable factors that determine how people feel about what is going on. And as much as some of us might like to slap a few voters around, the only way to move toward real understanding is to engage in what will inevitably be a frustrating conversation with people who just don't get it. The best we can do is to help them 'get it,' not by pushing anything down anyone's throat, but to communicate and ask honest and open-ended questions to create a dialogue without regard to the conclusions people will draw and instead focusing on the questions that need to be asked.


I live in Northern California. A mix of right wing Mccain/Bush loving, Yes on Prop 8 conservative soccer moms and dads, as well as a massively heavy mix of yuppy families who most likely voted Obama in between getting their eco friendly paper cup of organic soy corporate sludge.

And not everything is black and white here...a state where the majority of black democrats voted to ban gay marriage. Go figure.

John Mccain won a massive amount of votes, wasnt it actually kind of close in the end? 49%? It could have been any white Republican, and that person would have automatically gotten half the votes.

An open dialogue to people would be great, but at this time...people just want to plug their ipod in and tune out the world as the financial ship sinks

ninakat wrote:

It indeed was a brilliant move on the part of the powers-that-be, to recognize that Obama could miraculously bring together the oppressor and the oppressed in gleeful harmony. Yes they can. And yes, you will be teary eyed when Obama speaks, or else. Where's the puke emoticon? :O~~~~~


The same people who claim to hate war, corruption, rights being taken away ect when Bush did it; would be staunchly defending Obama *if* he began to do it.

A major crisis as Biden said, a generated crisis, like a new 9/11 would change everything...and it'd be pretty much a slim chance Obama would do the right thing.

I was saying for awhile that Obama would be installed to take away people's hate of the neocons, and lull people into a false sense of security. I believe I can say this, and still recognize that Obama has real charm to him. Ie: being a "cool dude". Come on folks, you know you want the Obama action figure:)
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Postby freemason9 » Fri Nov 14, 2008 1:45 pm

mentalgongfu2 wrote:
Why some people thought Mccain had a chance even as of September is beyond me.


for my part, I thought McCain had a chance in September, and even in October, because the rural midwest where I live is full of many otherwise intelligent people, such as nice little old ladies who have been electorally involved for all their lives, who believe the BS spewed by Fox News and the like that an Obama presidency means America will become a socialist nation run by Islamic militants who want to see our troops killed in action as the 'liberals' desecrate the flag and turn the nation into idolaters and general sinners working against the 'free market Christian family values' stable they think Reagan and Bush represent.

Perhaps it's difficult for those outside of the midwest to realize that well-meaning, patriotic, Constitution-supporting, anti-establishment people buy that sort of thing, but the Coasters have their own blindspots and biases too. Propaganda is effective when targeted to the right audience, and the Republican party has developed a machine that is far superior in supporting that propaganda than the one the Democrats have.

There is more to America than New York and Los Angeles. From my personal anecdotal observation, the McCain campaign had little to no presence in this state, which reflects in Iowa's overwhelming support for Obama. My buddies in Davenport had 3 different crews of Obama supporters knock on their door on ONE particular Saturday, while no McCain campaign crew knocked on the door during the entire election season. Hell, the McCain campaign was advertising to hire people for a stump speech event in Davenport just days before it was scheduled, something Bush, Clinton, and Obama never had to do, yet enough people bought the left-right paradigm presented them to continue to support the McCain/Palin ticket based solely on the false dichotomy that has been so well established.

Meanwhile, as the media helps push talking points to create fear of Obama as 'socialist,' the Federal Reserve gets billions of dollars to buy stakes in companies as part of a bailout (whose mission now has changed inexplicably from putting money into the banking sector to other 'projects'), while no one in any position of authority mentions that government ownership of the means of production is in fact a socialist ideal. (and one I'm not particularly opposed to, in principle, if carried out more honestly)

Never underestimate the ignorance and gullibility of the population, and never think the feeling where you live is the norm. It isn't. Despite the best efforts of the would-be 'elite', there are innumerable factors that determine how people feel about what is going on. And as much as some of us might like to slap a few voters around, the only way to move toward real understanding is to engage in what will inevitably be a frustrating conversation with people who just don't get it. The best we can do is to help them 'get it,' not by pushing anything down anyone's throat, but to communicate and ask honest and open-ended questions to create a dialogue without regard to the conclusions people will draw and instead focusing on the questions that need to be asked.


And as I live in Nebraska, I can verify your experience--except that Nebraska is far more insular than Iowa, and that Kansas is to the right of Nebraska. Trust me, I had no sense at all--at ANY point--that Obama would win the election. Because in Nebraska, all AM radio stations carry Limbaugh and Hannity and other forms of right wing insanity, and there is really only one major newspaper (the Omaha World-Herald, which laid off about 60 workers today). There are NO liberal media outlets across this vast state. None.

Obama never seemed preselected to me. In fact, I would have said the opposite--that McCain seemed ordained. After all, the electorate chose Bush the last two times, despite what should have been a fatal list of shortcomings.

Never underestimate the fear and bitterness of the American voter.

Most Americans, being little more than well-tended slaves, fear anything that might threaten their perch on the edge of the cliff; change threatens those that can't bear the idea of risk, because so much of their lives are spent precariously teetering on the edge of financial oblivion. It's a slave society, and it has always been just like that.

The electorate is generally best controlled through threat of ruination.

I hope Obama is what I believe him to be, but I don't pretend to trust anything that is presented to voters by this system.

On the other hand, given the state of national disintegration, it may not matter much anyway.
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Postby Code Unknown » Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:05 pm

8bitagent wrote:
Code Unknown wrote:
8bitagent wrote:Now, just because the 'elite' engineered the election for Obama, doesnt mean we need to throw the baby out with the yada yada.


Bizarre straw man: if you'd read any of these posts/essays beyond a cursory glance-through you'd realize they're primarily about identifying what Obama has shown himself of himself, period.

8bitagent wrote:It's clear Obama is one cool dude, and someone most of us would welcome into our homes for some xbox, dinner or good conversation. I stand by my "cautiously optimistic/give the guy a chance" position.


This coming from a guy who thought Alex Jones was basically a "cool dude" until fucking yesterday.


Um, no, I found Alex Jones to be an occasional source of interesting angles and food for thought. I wrote on AbovetopSecret in 2004 that I thought Alex Jone's style, even from his clip in Waking Life, was too much too stomach. I had some beers with Alex Jones at the LA 9/11 Truth conference, along with that Loose Change crew...I didnt feel too proud to be a "conspiracy activist".

I'll tell you who in conspiratainment land I have long admired and do think is a real cool dude: David Icke.


Oh, much better.
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Postby Nordic » Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:20 pm

My first thoughts, when Obama hit the scene, and I started seeing my first Obama t-shirts and bumper stickers on well-heeled "liberals" here in Santa Monica California was that he was being marketed as professionally as any corporate product ever.

Like Coca Cola.

Keep in mind that as early as 2006, the race was only allowed to be between him and HRC. No other candidate was allowed, literally, to get anywhere.

Here's a Newsweek cover from 2006:

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He's a likeable guy, but "liberal?" No effing way.
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Postby chlamor » Sat Nov 15, 2008 12:33 pm

http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m48778&s1=h1

OBAMA - WIPING THE SLATE CLEAN
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November 14, 2008

Appearance And Reality In The Relaunch Of Brand America

In 1997, the British media filled with talk of "historic" change. Blair's victory that year "bursts open the door to a British transformation," the Independent declared. (Neal Ascherson, 'Through the door he can begin to create a freer land,' The Independent, May 4, 1997)

A Guardian leader saluted the nation: "Few now sang England Arise, but England had risen all the same." (Leader, 'A political earthquake,' The Guardian, May 2, 1997)

The editors predicted that, by 2007, Blair's triumph would be seen as "one of the great turning-points of British political history... the moment when Britain at last gave itself the chance to construct a modern liberal socialist order." (Ibid)

The Observer assured readers that the Blair government would create "new worldwide rules on human rights" and implement "tough new limits on arms sales." (http://www.antiwar.com/orig/pilger.php?articleid=5063)

This, after all, was the dawn of Blair's "ethical" foreign policy.

It was a dawn of the dead - Blair left behind him the almost unimaginable horror of Iraq and Afghanistan.

A rare poll conducted by Ipsos last January of 754 Iraqi refugees in Syria found that "every single person interviewed by Ipsos reported experiencing at least one traumatic event in Iraq prior to their arrival in Syria." (http://www.unhcr.org/cgi-bin/texis/ vtx/iraq?page=news&id=479616762)

UNHCR estimated that one in five of those registered with the agency in Syria over the previous year were classified as "victims of torture and/or violence." The survey showed that fully 89 per cent of those interviewed suffered depression and 82 per cent anxiety. This was linked to terrors endured before they fled Iraq - 77 per cent of those interviewed reported being affected by air bombardments, shelling or rocket attacks. Eighty per cent had witnessed a shooting... and so on. (Ibid)

John Pilger was a lonely voice in 1997 warning that Blair was a dangerous fraud, a neocon in sheep's clothing. As Pilger later pointed out, the media could hardly plead ignorance

"Blair's Vichy-like devotion to Washington was known: read his speeches about a new order led by America. His devotion to Rupert Murdoch, who flew him and Cherie Booth around the world first class, was known. His devotion to an extreme neoliberal Thatcherite economics was known..." (John Pilger, Blair's bloody hands,' March 4, 2005; http://www.antiwar.com/orig/pilger.php?articleid=5063

Over the past two weeks - one decade and three wars later - the same media have been insisting, as one, that US president-elect Barrack Obama is another "new dawn". A Guardian leader observed:

"They did it. They really did it. So often crudely caricatured by others, the American people yesterday stood in the eye of history and made an emphatic choice for change for themselves and the world...

"Today is for celebration, for happiness and for reflected human glory. Savour those words: President Barack Obama, America's hope and, in no small way, ours too." (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/ 2008/nov/06/barackobama-uselections2008)

In the Guardian's news section, Oliver Burkeman described the victory as "historic, epochal, path breaking". But there was more:

"Just being alive at a time when it's so evident that history is being made was elating and exhausting." (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/ 2008/nov/05/uselections2008-barackobama)

In 2003, the Guardian's foreign editor, Ed Pilkington, told us:

"We are not in the business of editorialising our news reports." (Email, November 15, 2003)

Someone forgot to tell Burkeman, indeed the entire Guardian news team. At times like these, the media's claims to balanced coverage seem to belong to a different universe. Over the last two weeks, the public has been subjected to a one-way delusional deluge by the media. The propaganda is such that comments made by independent US presidential candidate, Ralph Nader, appear simply shocking:

"What we're seeing is the highest level of resignation and apathy and powerlessness I've ever seen. We're not talking about hoopla. We're not talking about 'hope'. We're not talking about rhetoric. We're not talking about 'rock star Obama'. We're talking about the question that is asked everywhere I go: 'What is left for the American people to decide other than their own personal lives under more restrictive circumstances year after year?' And the answer is: almost nothing." (Interview, RealNews.com, November 4; http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_ content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=2717)

Nader says of Obama: "This is show business what you're seeing." The crucial point: "Obama doesn't like to take on power." (Ibid)

But our media, passionately committed to 'balance' though they claim to be, are not interested. Their view (or so they claim): Obama's victory is a wonderful, transformational moment for the world.

The message is enhanced by precisely the abandonment of any pretence of impartiality. This might be termed the 'Get Real!' stratagem of propaganda swamping. The suggestion is that the truth is so obvious, so marvellous, that it is churlish to be concerned with balance. When the whole media system is screaming at us to be overjoyed, something is wrong - life is just not that straightforward.

The same version of events has been repeated right across the media. The Times's leading warmonger under Bush-Blair-Brown, Gerard Baker, commented: "there haven't been many days preceded by more energy and freighted with much greater historic significance than this one". (Baker, 'Amid the silence, citizens will make history with their sacred rite,' The Times, November 4, 2008)

The BBC's Justin Webb wrote:

"On every level America will be changed by this result - its impact will be so profound that the nation will never be the same." (http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/)

David Usborne gushed for the non-editorialising news pages of the Independent:

"As tears wetted a thousand cheeks in the Chicago crowd, it was clear that the significance of Mr Obama's victory may take some while to sink in." (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/ barack-obama-wins-his-place-in-history-992750.html)

How to communicate the impact?

"Call it the demise of cynicism or the end of apathy. The country that pretends to be the standard-bearer of the democracy and presumes, indeed, to export it to the other countries around the world was living up to its own standards."

Jon Snow of Channel 4 News did not disappoint:

"Hello history (to use the word of the times). What a staggering and indescribable moment this is. Barack Obama's graceful acceptance of what had seemed both inevitable and impossible is up there equalling any political event since the downing of the Berlin Wall and the release of Nelson Mandela." (Snowmail, November 5, 2008)

And the basis for this staggeringly important moment?

"Even after so many months of speech-making it's still not clear what are the concrete changes that may now ensue and in particular, there are some big foreign policy areas where Obama is not promising a hugely different tack from Bush..." (Ibid)

As we will see below, the amazing fact is that this eruption of media hype is based on essentially nothing. Obama has had little to say about what he will do, and what he has said has been depressing for anyone hoping for genuine change. Matthew Parris summed it up in the Times:

"Here we have a handsome, dashing and intelligent man, a man with generous instincts and a silver tongue; but a man with no distinctive plan for government that he has seen fit to share with us; a daring opportunist; somebody we may one day judge as a sort of Tony Blair with brains. And here we go again, all over again, hook, line and sinker." (Matthew Parris, 'Calm down! He's not President of the World,' The Times, November 8, 2008)

The former Europe minister and arch-Blairite, Denis MacShane, also unwittingly supplied a note of caution:

"I shut my eyes when I listen to this guy [Obama] and it could be Tony. He is doing the same thing that we did in 1997." (Tom Baldwin, 'Blair team look in mirror of history,' The Times, November 8, 2008)

Obama And Iraq

As discussed above, the media's propaganda swamping on Obama - of which we have sampled only a fraction - is based on almost nothing at all. Tariq Ali commented on Democracy Now

"As for what the policies are going to be, the situation is pretty depressing. I mean, Obama, during his campaign, didn't promise very much, basically talked in clichés and synthetic slogans like 'change we can believe in.' No one knows what that change is. In foreign policy terms, during the debates, what he said was basically a continuation of the Bush-Cheney policies. And in relation to Afghanistan, what he said was worse than McCain..." (http://www.democracynow.org/2008/11/6/ president_elect_obama_and_the_future)

Andrew Rawnsley wrote in the Observer:

"Iraq and Afghanistan are the sharp end of the partnership between Britain and the United States. Senior members of the British government quite candidly confess: 'We don't have a particularly clear view about what they want to do.'" (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/ 2008/nov/09/obama- administration-brown-cameron-sarkozy)

And yet, in the face of Obama's silence, and flat rejection of progressive policies, the media has sought to portray him as an all-new "dawn". Thus, Jonathan Freedland wrote in his open letter to Obama:

"You have promised to... end the war in Iraq." (Freedland, 'A few thoughts on how to handle the world's most potent political weapon,' The Guardian, November 5, 2008)

In the same newspaper, Julian Borger described Obama's goals: "US troops will be pulled out of Iraq in the next 16 months..." (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/ nov/05/uselections2008-barackobama6)

A Times leader asked: "How quickly can the United States military withdraw from Iraq?" (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/ leading_article/article5084156.ece)

We doubt any journalist on the Times actually believes Obama is intending to withdraw US troops from Iraq (in the intended meaning of the term).

In the Guardian, Jonathan Steele supplied a more realistic appraisal:

"... his position contains massive inconsistencies... he has not repudiated the war on terror. Rather, he insists that by focusing excessively on Iraq, the Bush administration 'took its eye off the ball'. The real target must be Afghanistan and if Osama bin Laden is spotted in Pakistan, bombing must be used there too." (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... -on-terror)

Steele commented on the number of troops Obama is planning to keep in Iraq:

"Officials on his team say it could number as many as 50,000 troops. Even if much of this force remains on bases and is barely visible to Iraqi civilians (much as the 4,500 British at Basra airfield are), it cannot avoid symbolising the fact that the occupation continues." (Ibid)

Obama - Hawk

John Pilger - who was right about Blair in 1997 and who is surely right about Obama now - also rejects the mainstream consensus:

"Like all serious presidential candidates, past and present, Obama is a hawk and an expansionist. He comes from an unbroken Democratic tradition, as the war-making of presidents Truman, Kennedy, Johnson, Carter and Clinton demonstrates." (http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=492)

Obama, after all, has supported Colombia's "right to strike terrorists who seek safe-havens across its borders." (http://www.newstatesman.com/media/ 2008/06/pilger-obama-truly-bush) He has promised to continue America's fierce economic strangulation of Cuba. He has promised to support an "undivided Jerusalem" as Israel's capital.

In August, Obama said he would be willing to attack inside Pakistan with or without approval from the Pakistani government:

"If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will." (http://www.reuters.com/article/ domesticNews/idUSN0132206420070801)

He has also said: "We will kill Bin Laden. We will crush al-Qaida." (http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/stor ... 12,00.html)

ZNet's Michael Albert commented last week:

"My guess is, sadly, that within one week, literally one week, Obama's staff and cabinet choices will make decisively evident that without mass activism forcing new outcomes, change will stop at the surface. I fervently hope I am wrong." (Albert, 'Obama Mania?', ZNet, November 7, 2008)

Albert appears to have been vindicated. Vice-president-elect, Joe Biden, is a pro-war Zionist. Rahm Emanuel, Obama's chief of staff, helped push through NAFTA and favoured the war on Iraq. Alexander Cockburn writes of him:

"He's a former Israeli citizen, who volunteered to serve in Israel in 1991 and who made brisk millions in Wall Street. He is a super-Likudnik hawk, whose father was in the fascist Irgun in the late Forties, responsible for cold-blooded massacres of Palestinians." (www.counterpunch.org/cockburn11072008.html)

In a co-authored book, Emanuel wrote:

"We need to fortify the military's 'thin green line' around the world by adding to the U.S. Special Forces and the Marines, and by expanding the U.S. army by 100,000 more troops." (Ibid)

Nader comments on Obama:

"What he's basically doing so far is giving the Clinton crowd a second chance. Rahm Emanuel? He's the worst of Clinton. Spokesman for Wall Street, Israel, globalization." (Ibid)

Conclusion - Relaunching The Brand

We are to believe that the US political system that Ralph Nader accurately describes as "a two-party dictatorship in thraldom to giant corporations," has produced a staggeringly different, progressive individual. And yet Nader has described how he was himself locked out of the election. He was not allowed to participate in the televised debates and lack of media coverage consigned his campaign to oblivion. He wrote to Obama:

"Far more than Senator McCain, you have received enormous, unprecedented contributions from corporate interests, Wall Street interests and, most interestingly, big corporate law firm attorneys... Why, apart from your unconditional vote for the $700 billion Wall Street bailout, are these large corporate interests investing so much in Senator Obama? Could it be that in your state Senate record, your U.S. Senate record and your presidential campaign record (favoring nuclear power, coal plants, offshore oil drilling, corporate subsidies including the 1872 Mining Act and avoiding any comprehensive program to crack down on the corporate crime wave and the bloated, wasteful military budget, for example) you have shown that you are their man?" (http://www.globalresearch.ca/ index.php?context=va&aid=10809)

It is no accident that the entire media system is so fervently announcing "historic" change. The American and British political brands have been badly battered and bloodied by utter disaster in Afghanistan and Iraq, and by the fiscal chaos of the "credit crunch". The insanity of greed-driven militarism enforcing catastrophic 'solutions' has become all too obvious, as has the provision of socialism for the rich and capitalism for the rest of us.

And so the American political brand must be rebirthed, resold, relaunched as a fresh start under new management.

We are being put through a crash-course in "Learning to love America again," as the Telegraph put it. (Iain Martin, 'The election of Barack Obama,' Daily Telegraph, November 6, 2008)

A leader in the Times on November 5 could hardly have stated the message more clearly:

"The American nation will replenish the confidence that it has lately lost. In the eyes of the world, the slate will be clean and the pretext, always spurious, for anti-Americanism has been removed." (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/ comment/leading_article/article5084156.ece)
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Postby ninakat » Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:08 pm

Thanks for that article chlamor. Quite an expose of media distortions. Here's a direct link to the MediaLens article:

http://www.medialens.org/alerts/index.php
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Postby Code Unknown » Sat Nov 15, 2008 4:09 pm

Permalink here: http://www.medialens.org/alerts/08/0811xx_obama_wiping_the.php

I particularly liked this line:

"When the whole media system is screaming at us to be overjoyed, something is wrong - life is just not that straightforward."
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Postby Code Unknown » Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:22 pm

Understanding Obama as a likely president of the United States is not possible without understanding the demands of an essentially unchanged system of power: in effect a great media game. For example, since I compared Obama with Robert Kennedy in these pages, he has made two important statements, the implications of which have not been allowed to intrude on the celebrations. The first was at the conference of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (Aipac), the Zionist lobby, which, as Ian Williams has pointed out, "will get you accused of anti-Semitism if you quote its own website about its power". Obama had already offered his genuflection, but on 4 June went further. He promised to support an “undivided Jerusalem” as Israel’s capital. Not a single government on earth supports the Israeli annexation of all of Jerusalem, including the Bush regime, which recognises the UN resolution designating Jerusalem an international city.

His second statement, largely ignored, was made in Miami on 23 May. Speaking to the expatriate Cuban community – which over the years has faithfully produced terrorists, assassins and drug runners for US administrations – Obama promised to continue a 47-year crippling embargo on Cuba that has been declared illegal by the UN year after year.

Again, Obama went further than Bush. He said the United States had "lost Latin America". He described the democratically elected governments in Venezuela, Bolivia and Nicaragua as a "vacuum" to be filled. He raised the nonsense of Iranian influence in Latin America, and he endorsed Colombia’s "right to strike terrorists who seek safe-havens across its borders". Translated, this means the "right" of a regime, whose president and leading politicians are linked to death squads, to invade its neighbours on behalf of Washington. He also endorsed the so-called Merida Initiative, which Amnesty International and others have condemned as the US bringing the "Colombian solution" to Mexico. He did not stop there. "We must press further south as well," he said. Not even Bush has said that.
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Postby Code Unknown » Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:58 pm

[Robert] Kennedy’s campaign is a model for Barack Obama. Like Obama, he was a senator with no achievements to his name. Like Obama, he raised the expectations of young people and minorities. Like Obama, he promised to end an unpopular war, not because he opposed the war’s conquest of other people’s land and resources, but because it was “unwinnable”.

Should Obama beat John McCain to the White House in November, it will be liberalism’s last fling. In the United States and Britain, liberalism as a war-making, divisive ideology is once again being used to destroy liberalism as a reality. A great many people understand this, as the hatred of Blair and new Labour attest, but many are disoriented and eager for “leadership” and basic social democracy. In the US, where unrelenting propaganda about American democratic uniqueness disguises a corporate system based on extremes of wealth and privilege, liberalism as expressed through the Democratic Party has played a crucial, compliant role.
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In 1968, Robert Kennedy sought to rescue the party and his own ambitions from the threat of real change that came from an alliance of the civil rights campaign and the anti-war movement then commanding the streets of the main cities, and which Martin Luther King had drawn together until he was assassinated in April that year. Kennedy had supported the war in Vietnam and continued to support it in private, but this was skilfully suppressed as he competed against the maverick Eugene McCarthy, whose surprise win in the New Hampshire primary on an anti-war ticket had forced President Lyndon Johnson to abandon the idea of another term. Using the memory of his martyred brother, Kennedy assiduously exploited the electoral power of delusion among people hungry for politics that represented them, not the rich.

“These people love you,” I said to him as we left Calexico, California, where the immigrant population lived in abject poverty and people came like a great wave and swept him out of his car, his hands fastened to their lips.

“Yes, yes, sure they love me,” he replied. “I love them!” I asked him how exactly he would lift them out of poverty: just what was his political philosophy?

“Philosophy? Well, it’s based on a faith in this country and I believe that many Americans have lost this faith and I want to give it back to them, because we are the last and the best hope of the world, as Thomas Jefferson said.”

“That’s what you say in your speech. Surely the question is: How?”

“How?... by charting a new direction for America.”

The vacuities are familiar. Obama is his echo. Like Kennedy, Obama may well “chart a new direction for America” in specious, media-honed language, but in reality he will secure, like every president, the best damned democracy money can buy.

As their contest for the White House draws closer, watch how, regardless of the inevitable personal smears, Obama and McCain draw nearer to each other. They already concur on America’s divine right to control all before it. “We lead the world in battling immediate evils and promoting the ultimate good,” said Obama. “We must lead by building a 21st-century military... to advance the security of all people [emphasis added].” McCain agrees. Obama says in pursuing “terrorists” he would attack Pakistan. McCain wouldn’t quarrel. Both candidates have paid ritual obeisance to the regime in Tel Aviv, unquestioning support for which defines all presidential ambition. In opposing a UN Security Council resolution implying criticism of Israel’s starvation of the people of Gaza, Obama was ahead of both McCain and Hillary Clinton. In January, pressured by the Israel lobby, he massaged a statement that “nobody has suffered more than the Palestinian people” to now read: “Nobody has suffered more than the Palestinian people from the failure of the Palestinian leadership to recognise Israel [emphasis added].” Such is his concern for the victims of the longest, illegal military occupation of modern times. Like all the candidates, Obama has furthered Israeli/Bush fictions about Iran, whose regime, he says absurdly, “is a threat to all of us”.

On the war in Iraq, Obama the dove and McCain the hawk are almost united. McCain now says he wants US troops to leave in five years (instead of “100 years”, his earlier option). Obama has now “reserved the right” to change his pledge to get troops out next year. “I will listen to our commanders on the ground,” he now says, echoing Bush. His adviser on Iraq, Colin Kahl, says the US should maintain up to 80,000 troops in Iraq until 2010. Like McCain, Obama has voted repeatedly in the Senate to support Bush’s demands for funding of the occupation of Iraq; and he has called for more troops to be sent to Afghanistan. His senior advisers embrace McCain’s proposal for an aggressive “league of democracies”, led by the United States, to circumvent the United Nations. Like McCain, he would extend the crippling embargo on Cuba.

Amusingly, both have denounced their “preachers” for speaking out. Whereas McCain’s man of God praised Hitler, in the fashion of lunatic white holy-rollers, Obama’s man, Jeremiah Wright, spoke an embarrassing truth. He said that the attacks of 11 September 2001 had taken place as a consequence of the violence of US power across the world. The media demanded that Obama disown Wright and swear an oath of loyalty to the Bush lie that “terrorists attacked America because they hate our freedoms”. So he did. The conflict in the Middle East, said Obama, was rooted not “primarily in the actions of stalwart allies like Israel”, but in “the perverse and hateful ideologies of radical Islam”. Journalists applauded. Islamophobia is a liberal speciality.

The American media love both Obama and McCain. Reminiscent of mating calls by Guardian writers to Blair more than a decade ago, Jann Wenner, founder of the liberal Rolling Stone, wrote: “There is a sense of dignity, even majesty, about him, and underneath that ease lies a resolute discipline... Like Abraham Lincoln, Barack Obama challenges America to rise up, to do what so many of us long to do: to summon ‘the better angels of our nature’.” At the liberal New Republic, Charles Lane confessed: “I know it shouldn’t be happening, but it is. I’m falling for John McCain.” His colleague Michael Lewis had gone further. His feelings for McCain, he wrote, were like “the war that must occur inside a 14-year-old boy who discovers he is more sexually attracted to boys than to girls”.

The objects of these uncontrollable passions are as one in their support for America’s true deity, its corporate oligarchs. Despite claiming that his campaign wealth comes from small individual donors, Obama is backed by the biggest Wall Street firms: Goldman Sachs, UBS AG, Lehman Brothers, J P Morgan Chase, Citigroup, Morgan Stanley and Credit Suisse, as well as the huge hedge fund Citadel Investment Group. “Seven of the Obama campaign’s top 14 donors,” wrote the investigator Pam Martens, “consisted of officers and employees of the same Wall Street firms charged time and again with looting the public and newly implicated in originating and/or bundling fraudulently made mortgages.” A report by United for a Fair Economy, a non-profit group, estimates the total loss to poor Americans of colour who took out sub-prime loans as being between $164bn and $213bn: the greatest loss of wealth ever recorded for people of colour in the United States. “Washington lobbyists haven’t funded my campaign,” said Obama in January, “they won’t run my White House and they will not drown out the voices of working Americans when I am president.” According to files held by the Centre for Responsive Politics, the top five contributors to the Obama campaign are registered corporate lobbyists.

What is Obama’s attraction to big business? Precisely the same as Robert Kennedy’s. By offering a “new”, young and apparently progressive face of the Democratic Party – with the bonus of being a member of the black elite – he can blunt and divert real opposition. That was Colin Powell’s role as Bush’s secretary of state. An Obama victory will bring intense pressure on the US anti-war and social justice movements to accept a Democratic administration for all its faults. If that happens, domestic resistance to rapacious America will fall silent.
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Postby chlamor » Sun Nov 16, 2008 12:37 pm

An Embarrassment Of Laundry Lists
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November 14, 2008

I've been feeling a bit embarrassed at the sudden proliferation of laundry lists in the wake of the election: open "Dear Santa" letters to our new president-elect, from people who ought to know better. It's as if they had never seen politics before.

Among writers I still read without knowing why, Bob Parry has been working on one extreme, while Bob Kohler works the other. Parry has been writing in intricate detail about how, in 1993, the incoming Clinton administration refused to hold the outgoing Bush administration accountable for the crimes they committed in office. Parry urges Obama not to make the same "mistake".

Barack Obama seeks a new era of bipartisanship, but he should take heed of what happened to the last Democrat in the White House – Bill Clinton – in 1993 when he sought to appease Republicans by shelving pending investigations into Reagan-Bush-I-era wrongdoing and hoped for some reciprocity.

Instead the Republicans pocketed the Democratic concessions and pressed ahead with possibly the most partisan assault ever directed against a sitting President. The war on Clinton included attacks on his past life in Arkansas, on his wife Hillary, on personnel decisions at the White House, and on key members of his administration.

And so on... and on and on ... until he reaches this conclusion:

Now [...] – with Barack Obama’s victory and with solid Democratic majorities again in the House and Senate – the Democrats are back to a spot very similar to where they were at the start of Bill Clinton’s presidency.

They have all the power they need to initiate serious investigations into the widespread criminality of George W. Bush’s presidency, from torture and other war crimes to war profiteering and other lucrative influence peddling.

But President-elect Obama is receiving nearly the identical advice that greeted Bill Clinton after his election 16 years ago: In the name of bipartisanship, let bygones be bygones.

The problem here, I must point out, is that all through the campaign, Barack Obama made it very clear that he intends to let bygones be bygones. And all through the campaign, Bob Parry supported him anyway. Parry even went so far as to write a condescending column trying to dissuade those who would vote for third-party candidates.

Obama needed your vote, even if your state was safely in his column already, according to Parry, so his popular vote total would give his administration more legitimacy. Or something. The logic is stunning: Vote for a candidate who rejects your position; then once he's in office you can pressure him to support the position he's already rejected.

At the other tactical extreme, Bob Kohler has a list of lists:

The ACLU, for instance, has put forth a transition plan titled: "Ask President-elect Obama to restore the America we believe in." On day one, it calls on the new president to stop torture, close Guantanamo, restore the rule of law for detainees and end the practice of extraordinary rendition.

Beyond this, the organization has dozens of recommendations to be accomplished during the first 100 days and first year: stop warrantless spying; implement sensible and humane policies toward immigrants, prisoners and many other groups; ban all workplace discrimination against sexual minorities by the federal government and its contractors; and much more.

Jonathan Steele, in an article in The Guardian (U.K.) on Nov. 7, headlined "Now he must declare that the war on terror is over," wrote: "Obama’s preference for diplomacy can help to forge new, individual relationships with Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan."

Paul Krugman, in the New York Times on Nov. 7, wrote: "Helping the neediest in a time of crisis, through expanded health and unemployment benefits, is the morally right thing to do; it’s also a far more effective form of economic stimulus than cutting the capital gains tax. Providing aid to beleaguered state and local governments, so that they can sustain essential public services, is important for those who depend on those services; it’s also a way to avoid job losses and limit the depth of the economy’s slump."

My friend Kathy Kelly, a peace activist for decades, is part of a campaign called Camp Hope: Countdown to Change, which plans to maintain a presence in Obama’s Chicago neighborhood of Hyde Park from Jan. 1 to Jan. 19 (Martin Luther King Day), urging him to make a number of actions, which are "early steps to more profound policy changes."

These include: reduction and eventual withdrawal of military forces from Iraq and immediate cessation of offensive combat operations; a 90-day moratorium on all housing foreclosures; submitting the Kyoto Protocol to Congress for ratification; and taking all nuclear weapons off hair-trigger alert and beginning negotiations with other leaders of nuclear weapon states to reduce and eliminate all nuclear weapons.

Jonathan Steele can write all he likes in The Guardian about how Obama must declare the War on Terror over; he can write anything at all about what Obama must do; but what does Obama say about the War on Terror?

He has already pledged allegiance to Israel, the clearest beneficiary of the War on Terror and the country that would least like to see it stopped. He has said, as in his highly praised speech in Philadelphia, that our problems in the area are caused by the "perverse and hateful ideologies of Islam". Are these the words, do they represent the thoughts, of a man who is ready to declare the War on Terror over?

The ACLU agenda for transition is lovely; but who is the ACLU to set an agenda? Where was Barack Obama when "the America we believe in" was being plundered? Ah, yes! He was in the Senate, voting for some of Bush's most atrocious "political victories".

Kathy Kelly can plead for the reduction or elimination of nuclear weapons all she likes, but how far will she get with a president who has hinted at wanting to use them against Iran?

All these questions are far too difficult, aren't they? We'd better ignore them.

In a recent sprawling piece, Tom Englehardt summarizes Obama's rejection of truth, common sense, and progress:

Winning an election with an antiwar label, Obama has promised -- kinda -- to end the American war there and bring the troops -- sorta, mostly -- home. But even after his planned 16-month withdrawal of U.S. "combat brigades," which may not be welcomed by his commanders in the field, including former Iraq commander, now Centcom Commander David Petraeus, there are still plenty of combative non-combat forces, which will be labeled "residual" and left behind to fight "al-Qaeda." Then, there are all those "advisors" still there to train Iraqi forces, the guards for the giant bases the Bush administration built in the country, the many thousands of armed private security contractors from companies like Blackwater, and of course, the 1,000 "diplomats" who are to staff the newly opened U.S. embassy in Baghdad's Green Zone, possibly the largest embassy on the planet. Hmmmm.

And while the new president turns to domestic matters, it's quite possible that significant parts of his foreign policy could be left to the oversight of Vice President Joe Biden who, in case anyone has forgotten, proposed a plan for Iraq back in 2007 so filled with imperial hubris that it still startles. In a Caesarian moment, he recommended that the U.S. -- not Iraqis -- functionally divide the country into three parts. Although he preferred to call it a "federal system," it was, for all intents and purposes, a de facto partition plan.

If Iraq remains a sorry tale of American destruction and dysfunction without, as yet, a discernable end in sight, Afghanistan may prove Iraq squared. And there, candidate Obama expressed no desire to wind the war down and withdraw American troops. Quite the opposite, during the election campaign he plunked hard for escalation, something our NATO allies are sure not to be too enthusiastic about. According to the Obama plan, many more American troops (if available, itself an open question) are to be poured into the country in what would essentially be a massive "surge strategy" by yet another occupant of the Oval Office.

Not bad enough? There's more:

President-elect Obama accepted the overall framework of a "Global War on Terror" during his presidential campaign. This "war" lies at the heart of the Bush administration's fantasy world of war that has set all-too-real expanses of the planet aflame. Its dangers were further highlighted this week by the New York Times, which revealed that secret orders in the spring of 2004 gave the U.S. military "new authority to attack the Qaeda terrorist network anywhere in the world, and a more sweeping mandate to conduct operations in countries not at war with the United States."
...

If, however, Obama accepts a War on Terror framework, as he already seems to have, as well as those "residual" forces in Iraq, while pumping up the war in Afghanistan, he may quickly find himself playing by Rumsfeld rules, whether or not he revokes those specific orders. In fact, left alone in Washington, backed by the normal national security types, he may soon find himself locked into all sorts of unpalatable situations...

And then there's all this, too:

We won't know the full cast of characters to come until the president-elect makes the necessary announcements or has a national security press conference with a similar line-up behind him. But it's certainly rumored that Robert Gates, a symbol of continuity from both Bush eras, might be kept on as secretary of defense, or a Republican senator like Richard Lugar of Indiana or, more interestingly, retiring Nebraska Senator Chuck Hagel might be appointed to the post. Of course, many Clintonistas are sure to be in this line-up, too.

In addition, among the essential cast of characters will be Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Michael Mullen, and Centcom Commander David Petraeus, both late Bush appointees, both seemingly flexible military men, both interested in a military-plus approach to the Afghan and Iraq wars. Petraeus, for instance, reportedly recently asked for, and was denied, permission to meet with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

All these figures will represent a turn away from the particular madness of the early Bush years abroad, one that actually began in the final years of his second term. But such a national security line-up is unlikely to include fresh thinkers, who might truly reimagine an imperial world, or anyone who might genuinely buck the power of the Pentagon. What Obama looks to have are custodians and bureaucrats of empire, far more cautious, far more sane, and certainly far more grown-up than the first-term Bush appointees, but not a cast of characters fit for reshaping American policy in a new world of disorder and unraveling economies, not a crew ready to break new ground and cede much old ground on this still American-garrisoned planet of ours.

What to do? As Englehardt puts it, "Don't Let Barack Obama Break Your Heart"

Let's assume the best: that Barack Obama truly means to bring some form of the people's will, as he imagines it, to Washington after eight years of unconstitutional "commander-in-chief" governance. That -- take my word for it -- he can't do without the people themselves expressing that will.

But why, after all this, would anyone assume the best? And why should you or I take the word of somebody who does so? These are very difficult questions, so difficult that they must be dodged.

It's a natural reaction -- and certainly a commonplace media reaction at the moment -- to want to give Barack Obama a "chance." Back off those critical comments, people now say. Fair's fair. Give the President-elect a little "breathing space." After all, the election is barely over, he's not even in office, he hasn't had his first 100 days, and already the criticism has begun.

But those who say this don't understand Washington -- or, in the case of various media figures and pundits, perhaps understand it all too well.

It's not difficult to understand:

When the telecoms wanted legal immunity for their lawbreaking activities, Barack Obama said he would try to prevent that from happening. Then he voted for a law that made it happen.

When the big banks wanted $700 billion of your money, with public opinion running 100-to-1 against the idea, Barack Obama voted for the bill that gave that money away.

He needed your support then; he slapped you across the head. You voted for him anyway.

Those bills were always going to pass. They didn't need his vote. He could have voted against them, as a token gesture. But he didn't. He didn't even pretend to be on your side, even though he needed your support so very much. And you gave it to him anyway.

And now ... he doesn't need you anymore. He's already made his intentions as clear as day ... and yet here you come with your Dear Santa letters full of free advice -- advice your man has already rejected.

If he didn't even bother pretending to be serious when he needed your support, what makes you think he'll listen now, when he doesn't need you at all?

I guess I just don't understand politics.


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Postby ninakat » Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:17 pm

From the article "An Embarassment of Laundry Lists" above, emphasis mine:

    When the telecoms wanted legal immunity for their lawbreaking activities, Barack Obama said he would try to prevent that from happening. Then he voted for a law that made it happen.

    When the big banks wanted $700 billion of your money, with public opinion running 100-to-1 against the idea, Barack Obama voted for the bill that gave that money away.

    He needed your support then; he slapped you across the head. You voted for him anyway.

    Those bills were always going to pass. They didn't need his vote. He could have voted against them, as a token gesture. But he didn't. He didn't even pretend to be on your side, even though he needed your support so very much. And you gave it to him anyway.

    And now ... he doesn't need you anymore. He's already made his intentions as clear as day ... and yet here you come with your Dear Santa letters full of free advice -- advice your man has already rejected.

    If he didn't even bother pretending to be serious when he needed your support, what makes you think he'll listen now, when he doesn't need you at all?
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Postby Code Unknown » Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:26 pm

What to do? As Englehardt puts it, "Don't Let Barack Obama Break Your Heart"


Good way to put it.

But our political establishment venerates "centrism" and "bi-partisanship" as the highest religious concepts. Those terms are, in reality, nothing more than vehicles to insulate government officials and the political establishment generally from any accountability. Their only real meaning is that cooperation within the political establishment is paramount, regardless of political principles and the rule of law. Hence, investigations and especially prosecutions are scorned as terribly divisive and partisan, even when they involve crimes; good "non-partisans" and "centrists" eschew such unpleasantries, by definition.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/11/13/partisanship/index.html

How is this anything other than a full-scale exemption issued to political leaders to break our laws? There's nothing unique about circumstances now. New Presidents are always going to have Very Important Things to do. And investigations and prosecutions of past administration officials are always going to be politically divisive. By definition, investigations of past criminality are going to be "distractions" from the Important Work that political leaders must attend to. They're always going to be what Litt perversely refers to as "old battles." To argue that new administrations should refrain from investigating crimes that were committed by past administrations due to the need to avoid partisan division is to announce that the rule of law does not apply to our highest political leaders. It's just as simple as that.

This brazen defense of lawlessness articulated by Litt is now as close to a unanimous, bipartisan consensus across the political establishment as it gets. This is what has been advocated by everyone from David Broder to top Obama adviser Cass Sunstein. There are few things more difficult than finding someone of prominence in the establishment that disagrees with this view. Our political class has decided that high political officials -- particularly the President and those closest to him -- are literally exempt from the rule of law.
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Postby Code Unknown » Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:32 am

Then the big subject of Iraq is brought center stage. How does Barack tackle this massive war crime with over one million murdered Iraqis, countless injured and maimed, including a substantial number of American troops, all who were sold a bill of goods by the lies of the Bush gang (and Obama VP pick Joe Biden, too).

I felt a bit nauseous, for here is "Iraq" as per Obama:

"We're currently spending $10 Billion dollars a month in Iraq when they have a $79 billion surplus."

It's all about the money. No morality enters the equation.

Does "they" refer to the Iraqis, who have wanted our invading armies out for the last 5 years (excepting the puppet regime we installed)?

What is the implication? Is this the neocon argument about making the Iraqis pay for their own imperial subjugation?
http://crimesofthestate.blogspot.com/2008/10/critique-of-obama-infomercial.html
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