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Re: PEHI/ISGP

Postby LilyPatToo » Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:24 am

Found other working links for 2 more of my ISGP bookmarked articles: another by Joël van der Reijden Unacknowledged Special Access Programs from 2005 and a really long article (author unknown) that I could only find a current link to at Scribd, which means that the print is going to be really difficult to read unless you register there (free) and download a PDF of it Introduction to Shadow Government. If anyone has current links to other articles from them, I hope you'll post them.

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Re: PEHI/ISGP

Postby battleshipkropotkin » Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:08 pm

From Cryptogon:
What Happened to the Institute for the Study of Globalization and Covert Politics (isgp.eu)
January 17th, 2010

The WHOIS status for isgp.eu shows:

Withdrawn: This domain name has been registered but has been withdrawn. It is temporarily inactive and may not be traded or transferred pending the outcome of legal activity.

Any legal action against Joël van der Reijden is likely taking place in Netherlands. I can’t, however, find any information, in any language, about what is happening.

Fortunately, almost all of his work was still present in Google’s cache.

This file contains everything that was recoverable from Google’s cache of isgp.eu. The site has been taken down. I’d expect this file to be taken down as well.

ISGP.zip, Size: 2,583 KB

I have sent the data to Wikileaks in the hope that they can make sure that this information won’t get buried.

If anyone has any information related to what is happening with isgp.eu and/or Joël van der Reijden, please let me know.

If you have no idea what any of this is about, see the Introduction page from isgp.eu (Google cache): http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache%3A ... m&ie=UTF-8
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Re: PEHI/ISGP

Postby LilyPatToo » Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:58 am

Got it--thank you! It's very scary to see a parapolitical researcher get into legal trouble--makes me wonder which reptilian tail he tramped on 8) If you hear more about who's behind his problems, I hope you'll post about it. That's a huge file--I'd found his articles separately and hadn't realized how much he had up at ISGP :shock:

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Re: PEHI/ISGP

Postby stamp57 » Mon Jan 18, 2010 3:51 am

cryptogon has the following:

What Happened to the Institute for the Study of Globalization and Covert Politics (isgp.eu)

January 17th, 2010


UPDATE: Bandwidth Exceeded on 4Shared Free File Sharing System
I will temporarily host the file on Cryptogon:
ISGP.zip, Size: 2,583 KB
—End Update—
The WHOIS status for isgp.eu shows:
Withdrawn: This domain name has been registered but has been withdrawn. It is temporarily inactive and may not be traded or transferred pending the outcome of legal activity.
Any legal action against Joël van der Reijden is likely taking place in Netherlands. I can’t, however, find any information, in any language, about what’s happening.
Fortunately, almost all of his work was still present in Google’s cache.
This file contains everything that was recoverable from Google’s cache of isgp.eu. The site has been taken down. I’d expect this file to be taken down as well.
ISGP.zip, Size: 2,583 KB
I have sent the data to Wikileaks in the hope that they can make sure that this information won’t get buried.
If anyone has any information related to what is happening with isgp.eu and/or Joël van der Reijden, please let me know.
If you have no idea what any of this is about, see the Introduction page from isgp.eu (Google cache).

file: at http://cryptogon.com
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Re: PEHI/ISGP

Postby LilyPatToo » Mon Jan 18, 2010 2:36 pm

Disappointingly, the ISGP article that was most important to me, personally--Beyond Dutroux ties to 1950s-era CIA covert operation
Plus: the mysterious "Dr. Green" identified
--was not included in the download from Google's cache--and I wonder why? Could it be the one that set off alarms somewhere? Who'd have thought that such old information was so "hot" :shock: jingofever mentioned that the article on "Dr. Green" had been pulled (on the page before this one):
jingofever wrote:
A possible clue, a day or so before the site became unreachable I noticed that his article on L. Wilson Greene was pulled.


American Dream began a thread with it that's available in the Data Dump here, so the text is available, but I wish it had been in that cache. My searches aren't turning it up anywhere else in its original form, but I have a Safari webarchive of it in my files, if anyone's interested in archiving it online. I'm don't know how to transfer it from my Mac, but possibly it could be emailed to another computer that runs Safari...

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Re: PEHI/ISGP

Postby stefano » Mon Jan 18, 2010 2:46 pm

I seem to remember Joel van der Reijden once encouraging people to mirror his stuff in case of precisely this kind of eventuality. Don't think he'd mind, at any rate... Anyway he's back up, and the page in question is there too: Beyond Dutroux ties to 1950s-era CIA covert operation.

On edit: the page has had the following added: "Someone on the Rigorous Intuition forum (the only forum where very occasionally something useful is said, be it by very few people) had also already suspected that Dr. Green was in fact Dr. Luther Wilson Greene." I haven't seen that thread? So, yes, a front of the infowars indeed.
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Re: PEHI/ISGP

Postby LilyPatToo » Mon Jan 18, 2010 3:09 pm

Just wanted to link here to the The Mysterious Dr. Greene thread, in case Beyond Dutroux ties to 1950s-era CIA covert operation Plus: the mysterious "Dr. Green" identified does turn out to be the article mentioning him that caused Joël van der Reijden to briefly pull his site. Interesting that he mentioned RI's responses to his article, too--I tried to get people interested in that article elsewhere, but no one bit. Which makes me continue to wonder about such "ancient" info being relevant to The Powers That Be today...? Or, it might just be a coincidence that it was yanked. Hopefully we'll find out one day.

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Re: PEHI/ISGP

Postby hanshan » Mon Jan 18, 2010 5:41 pm

stefano wrote:I seem to remember Joel van der Reijden once encouraging people to mirror his stuff in case of precisely this kind of eventuality. Don't think he'd mind, at any rate... Anyway he's back up, and the page in question is there too: Beyond Dutroux ties to 1950s-era CIA covert operation.

On edit: the page has had the following added: "Someone on the Rigorous Intuition forum ( the only forum where very occasionally something useful is said, be it by very few people) had also already suspected that Dr. Green was in fact Dr. Luther Wilson Greene." I haven't seen that thread? So, yes, a front of the infowars indeed.



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Re: PEHI/ISGP

Postby LilyPatToo » Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:30 pm

That thread is here, hanshan. And yes, it is nice to hear this place complimented, isn't it?

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Re: PEHI/ISGP

Postby jingofever » Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:22 pm

He has a message up now:

January 18, 2010,

To those who were concerned,

As many of you noticed, ISGP has been down for a week. Eurid, located in Brussels, had withdrawn the domain because they somehow found out I wasn't living at the registered address anymore. Don't know how, because I'm still waiting for the regional public office to change my address in their own administration - so I can finally get my parking permit. It took some time before Eurid accepted the necessary documentation and put my site back up.

In other words, there was no real "legal action" as a whois of isgp.eu showed. It's true that in the past steps have been taken against several persons who have taken information from this site, but I myself have not heard a peep - and maybe that's best for everyone. I certainly don't want to become an activist.

And for those that speculated about these things... What I did have for a brief period in 2005 was that all packages from England would just disappear. This was while working on the first version of the Cercle article. In the same period my phone was probably bugged, as at one point I ended up talking to an apparently empty room with servers running in it. A good reason may actually have been a confidential email I had accidentally (?) received from the Jason Group about how to protect U.S. nuclear powerplants from terrorist attacks. This mail disappeared from my inbox (and all other boxes) in about a week. That email would have made me a potential "national security threat" and it would probably have been legal to tap my phone. See FAQ for details.

So, stuff has happened, but nothing that I really worry about.

Ow, and some people were asking where the Dr. Green article has gone. Well, you can find it in the "miscellaneous" section. It had nothing to do with the disappearance of the site.

Ow, and another thing: thanks, JK, for the monthly donations in 2009. Appreciate it.
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Re: PEHI/ISGP

Postby tazmic » Fri Nov 04, 2011 6:28 pm

"It ever was, and is, and shall be, ever-living fire, in measures being kindled and in measures going out." - Heraclitus

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Re: PEHI/ISGP

Postby Stephen Morgan » Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:33 am

Back when he announced that the wbsite was going to be taken down, I think he went back on that, he offered a tar file with all the information in it, which includes the greene file, drgreene.html. Missing the images, though.
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Re: PEHI/ISGP

Postby tazmic » Sat Nov 05, 2011 7:31 am

http://cryptogon.com/?p=25855

Joël van der Reijden let me know that he has updated ISGP, which is now being hosted on wikispooks.com:
You may like to see them:
Three-establishment-model
The first photocopies of Cercle documents
I did these updates in response to David Teacher making the Third Edition available of his book Rogue Agents. Unfortunately, David hadn’t seen these Cercle documents sent him six months back, so he just may to a Fourth Edition some day. Here’s how the conversation went.

https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?8724-Third-edition-of-Rogue-Agents-by-David-Teacher-published-includes-175-internal-documents
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Re: PEHI/ISGP

Postby LilyPatToo » Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:33 am

tazmic wrote:http://cryptogon.com/?p=25855

Joël van der Reijden let me know that he has updated ISGP, which is now being hosted on wikispooks.com:
You may like to see them:
Three-establishment-model
The first photocopies of Cercle documents
I did these updates in response to David Teacher making the Third Edition available of his book Rogue Agents. Unfortunately, David hadn’t seen these Cercle documents sent him six months back, so he just may to a Fourth Edition some day. Here’s how the conversation went.

https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?8724-Third-edition-of-Rogue-Agents-by-David-Teacher-published-includes-175-internal-documents

Thank you for those links, tazmic--particularly the second one, where Joël van der Reijden is posting and said this downthread:
...Going through the photos I laughed, thinking you had picked the wrong picture for Robert Moss... But I was WRONG! The Cercle's Robert Moss is the exact same person as Robert Moss the lucid/active dreaming expert! I was always interested in his work, having bought Dreamgates and his related audio program on that 10 years ago. He's also on Coast to Coast AM all the time. Checked for this years ago, but seeing the dream guy grew up in Australia I assumed it was a different Robert Moss... absolute bizarre it's the same guy. Overthrowing countries with Brian Crozier and Ted Shackley in the 1970s. Undermining labor unions in the 1980s. And today he's a well-known dream doctor who never talks politics.

It just makes my day when one of the "Man Behind The Curtain" spooks who've moved into the New Age realm become known to me and to anyone else who's paying attention.

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Re: PEHI/ISGP

Postby cptmarginal » Sat Nov 05, 2011 1:11 pm

LilyPatToo wrote:It just makes my day when one of the "Man Behind The Curtain" spooks who've moved into the New Age realm become known to me and to anyone else who's paying attention.


Haha, yeah. I came here just now in order to post that same excerpt, immediately after reading it.


Here's the opening post of that thread, with links to the book:

Third edition of Rogue Agents by David Teacher published - includes 175 internal documents

As readers may know, I dusted off Rogue Agents, my 1993 book on Brian Crozier and the Pinay Circle, for Joel van der Reijden of the much-missed ISGP site, which published the second edition in December 2008.

I have now completed the third and final edition which adds much information on Franco's Spain, Interdoc, and Crozier's allies in the Rumsfeld Pentagon and in the UK Cameron government (and their current activities), and brings all the biographies up to date - 2011 has so far seen the deaths of key players Otto von Habsburg, Hans Graf Huyn and Brigadier-General Robert C. Richardson.

The third edition of Rogue Agents also includes all of the internal documents used in the course of this twenty-year investigation; in this way, readers may recognize some of the names that as yet mean nothing to me. Pictures of the main actors in the Cercle and weblinks to video footage of them round off the book.

Sadly ISGP cannot host the new edition, and therefore I post it here, hoping that Joel and others may find it. Two versions of Rogue Agents are available: the full version with pictures and documents (481 pages, 40 MB pdf file) or the 'text-only version' which includes the full book, footnotes, sources annex and NSIC and IFF annexes, but omits the pictures and the documents (290 pages, 1.3 MB pdf file, best for printing or emailing).

The full version is here:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=B947FNEX
or
http://mediafire.com/?2qvkx4nvdj9zyk6

The 'text-only'version is here:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=C8OXFB97
or
http://mediafire.com/?46yvpnyg5y0stdp

If you find this, Joel, happy reading and thanks again for hosting earlier versions of this research.

Feel free to submit the book to other sites or blogs!

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