Horrorcore rapper faces murder charges.

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Postby robotilt » Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:54 pm

digging around on SickTanicK's blog, there's a post where he reviews, track by track, a new album by a guy (group?) called Insane Poetry. I thought this part was interesting, kind of a window into what's going on with "kids these days":

(FWIW since Hugh brought up race with respect to rap and the occult, SickTanicK is white and Insane Poetry is black. No matter the CIA/NPR spin, it's a big ol' interracial love fest on the street)

4. Satanism and the C.I.A. Pt.1

This is a interlude with some lecture samples, im not sure who it is, but it almost
sounds like Jordan Maxwell or Bill Cooper, two Conspiracy theorists that i personally
listen to all the time, but i may be wrong, it bassicly discusses the connections
found between the C.I.A being theistic Satanists, GREAT Interlude and PERFECT
opener for the next track.

5. Welcome to America

This is my personal favorite cut off the record, the beat comes in straight BRUTAL as
always with the ghetto metal production kaine has incorporated. This song
is all about America, celebrities and Conspiracy. Cyco speaks the truth on this track
in my personal opinion and as always the delivary is as tight as a virgins pussy,
"im living in the united states of terrorists" Amazing statements made in this song
"Genious how we murder in the name of god, 9/11 was an inside job" Cyco ona personal
level is one of the most wise and intelligent people ive ever known and thats real talk
he always comes real on a track without watering it down to please the masses.

7. Satanism and the CIA pt.2

Another interlude once again sampled from a lecture section that talks about human
sacrafice, i noticed on a personal level dude was quoting aliester crowley from
the book of the law on human sacrafice. The backround musick reminds me
of some 70's Mondo Macbre movie type stuff, well put together, kaine always
has a tendency to dig deep in underground cinema to find never before
used samples.


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Postby Penguin » Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:18 pm

http://www.discogs.com/DJ-Scud-Rich-Kid ... ease/20480

DJ Scud Put Up Your Lighters (4:03)
2 DJ Scud Badman Time (3:01)
3 DJ Scud Stormtrooper (4:22)
4 DJ Scud & Shizuo Jungle Warrior (3:47)
Remix - DJ Scud
5 DJ Scud & Shizuo Sick In The Head (4:53)
Remix - DJ Scud
6 Rich Kid Rude Bimmer (4:06)
7 Rich Kid Screwface (3:52)
8 Rich Kid Bloodclot Hour (4:03)
9 Rich Kid Version (3:44)
10 Bloodclaat Gangsta Youth Kill Or Be Killed (The Panacea Remix) (6:21)


Sorry for (not quite) ot!
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Postby barracuda » Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:35 pm

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There is no known motive yet, but Ellington said that when asked by a reporter how he committed the crime, McCroskey said, "Jesus told me to do it." He is suspected of first-degree murder, robbery and grand larceny in the theft of Mark Niederbrock's vehicle, and officials plan to charge him in the other three killings once the bodies have been positively identified.

According to the Silicon Valley Mercury News, police went to the home of Niederbrock's estranged wife, Debra Kelley — where the bodies were found — on Thursday after an unidentified West Virginia woman called to say that it had been days since she'd heard from her teenage daughter, who was staying with Kelley and Emma Niederbrock. When investigators went to the home, a man matching McCroskey's description allegedly told them the girls had gone to see a movie, but when the mother still hadn't heard from her daughter on Friday, police entered the home and found the bodies.

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Postby Penguin » Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:39 pm

It always is Jesus...
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Postby I_Am_Not_Mad » Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:16 pm

Penguin wrote:It always is Jesus...
:shock:


I think he was just being a smartass by saying that.

Anyway, I would guess that his soon-to-be cellmates are going to have a whole lot of "horrorshow" fun with pudgy white boy.
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Postby Maddy » Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:02 pm

Isn't that the truth? And I wonder if he has an inkling of remorse? I mean remorse for what he did, to the families (including his own - people tend to forget that perps harm their own families, as well, by their actions) not just remorse for getting caught. Where does the ego/attitude end? I'd give anything to know what causes a person to have no conscience over their actions, and no compassion, and if it's something that can be ever be learned/fixed.
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Postby barracuda » Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:53 pm

Show poster for the festival attended by the killer and his victims, from a promotion at JuggaloNews.

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Postby Maddy » Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:14 pm

We used to have bands with similar names at this club I used to go to all the time in Portland - but damned if I can remember the name now. Back then we were just "punks". Most of us didn't take that "satanic" stuff seriously, except for the shock value and rebelliousness of it. I'd wager that's what most young people now do, as well. This isn't saying there aren't those who do take it seriously (I know there are); just that when I see posters like that it kind of makes me roll my eyes and chuckle slightly.
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Postby mentalgongfu2 » Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:33 am

'Horrorcore' killing suspect: Quiet, picked on

Demian Bulwa, Chronicle Staff Writer

Monday, September 21, 2009

(09-21) 14:43 PDT CASTRO VALLEY -- Although he was immersed in a music scene driven by murderous images, the Castro Valley rapper suspected of killing his girlfriend and three others in a Virginia town was a quiet, insecure young man who had no criminal record and didn't seem capable of such violence, his sister said today.

She said Richard "Sammy" McCroskey III, a 20-year-old high school dropout, had been picked on as a boy and spent much of his time in his bedroom.

There, he designed Web sites, recorded "horrorcore" songs that celebrated macabre killings, and chatted online with other fans of the morbid genre, said Sarah McCroskey, 21, who lives with her brother and their father in a modest Castro Valley home.

Richard McCroskey also spent hour after hour on the phone with his teenage girlfriend, whom he met several months ago at a horrorcore concert, his sister said.

She had no idea why her brother may have killed his girlfriend and the other victims, who are believed to include the girl's parents and best friend.

"He wouldn't kill a spider if I asked him to," Sarah McCroskey said. "My brother was always a quiet, nice kid, and he got along with everybody. It's scary - you think you know someone."

She spoke after police raided her home early this morning, hauling away computers and other items.

In Farmville, Va., her brother made his first court appearance to hear charges of murder, grand larceny, robbery and driving without a license.

Appearing on a video feed from jail, McCroskey was given a Jan. 11 preliminary hearing date and assigned an attorney, said Selena Eppes, a deputy court clerk in Prince Edward County.

Police in Farmville, a town of 7,200 located 50 miles southwest of Richmond, said they believe McCroskey flew into Virginia on Sept. 6 and attended a horrorcore festival with his girlfriend, Emma Niederbrock, and others on Sept. 12 in Michigan.

Then, sometime last week, he allegedly killed the girl and three others in her home.

Police said none of the victims had been positively identified, pending autopsies that are also expected to reveal causes of death. But investigators believe the victims include Niederbrock as well as her father, Mark Niederbrock, a pastor at a Presbyterian church in the area.

Friends have said the other two victims are believed to be Emma Niederbrock's mother, Debra Kelley, an associate professor of sociology and criminal justice studies at Longwood University in Farmville, and the girl's best friend, Melanie Wells, 18, who had been visiting from West Virginia.

The bodies were found Friday, apparently a few days after the killings. Wells made her last entry on her MySpace page Sept. 13, saying she would be back home three days later.

According to police, McCroskey stole the pastor's car Friday morning but disabled it in a minor collision outside Farmville. Prince Edward County sheriff's deputies reported ticketing McCroskey for driving without a license about 4 a.m. and towing the car, which had not been reported stolen.

McCroskey then got rides to a convenience store and finally Richmond International Airport, police said. He was arrested there Saturday, a day before a scheduled flight home.

Sarah McCroskey said she saw an interview after her brother's arrest in which he told a television reporter, "Jesus told me to do it." But she said it wasn't a sign of a psychotic break.

"He's just a complete sarcastic a-," she said. "That's just his sense of humor."

She said her brother grew up in Hayward and dropped out of Tennyson High School in his sophomore or junior year. In school, she said, he was "always the kid that got picked on. People always played on his insecurities."

In a family of musicians, Sarah McCroskey said, her brother became a horrorcore devotee and then, recently, a rapper nicknamed "Syko Sam" who combined death-themed lyrics with beats he created on his computer. He met Emma Niederbrock at a concert in Southern California, she said.

On Richard McCroskey's MySpace page, the girl - who went by the nickname "Ragdoll" - sent him a stream of affectionate messages in recent weeks, counting down the days until his visit.

"Babyyy you leave TONIGHT!" she wrote Sept. 5. "My time with you is going to be the absolute best everrrr. I love you."

"They were really, really lovey-dovey," said Sarah McCroskey, who said her brother had saved money for months to pay for the trip. "I've never seen him that excited."

Last Tuesday and Thursday, she said, her brother left her messages saying he was calling to check in.

"He said, 'I love you,' " she said. "In this family we swear and burp - that was just really weird that he said that."

She said she doesn't believe her brother had been influenced to kill by the music he listened to or wrote.

"In horrorcore they sing about stuff that's unimaginable," she said. "I play 'Grand Theft Auto,' but I'm not going to have sex with a hooker and take her money."

She said, however, that her brother had been under the strain of their parents' recent separation. A few weeks ago, she said, he talked about joining the Army.

"He's been keeping stuff in. Something must have provoked him to snap," she said.

"I'm really shocked he could actually do something like this. All I want to know is, what was going through his head? I feel like I failed as his big sister. He had a lot of potential, he was smart and he was going places."

E-mail Demian Bulwa at dbulwa@sfchronicle.com.

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Postby Penguin » Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:44 am

I_Am_Not_Mad wrote:
Penguin wrote:It always is Jesus...
:shock:


I think he was just being a smartass by saying that.

Anyway, I would guess that his soon-to-be cellmates are going to have a whole lot of "horrorshow" fun with pudgy white boy.


(Im a smartass too :P )

It seems that at least here, they've often (referring to couple school shootings, couple murders and a bombing) been boys who were picked on at school for a long time, or social outcasts in some way - alienated loners.

I was kinda similar when I was young - pudgy and with few friends. I had lots of violent fantasies involving the other kids who picked on me as well, so I can kind of empathize. Build pressure inside for long enough, and somethings gotta give, eventually - "Quiet, nice kid...nobody could have guessed it"... Not saying that would be the only explanation or even necessary.

Also a possibility - perhaps something went wrong with his girlfriend, or the girls parents did something relating to them that pissed him off..fwiw.
Romantic affairs as teenagers are probably a very common trigger for such incidents.
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Postby bubblefunk » Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:31 am

Here we reach the inevitable moment in the thread where we begin to celebrate prison rape, considering that part of the punishment of imprisonment and wishing it upon others. Such celebration is so predictable and so wrong - can we - just for once - veer left or right and not do it? It's less so here on RI than other places, but nonetheless, it seems to happen spontaneously and bring such enjoyment to so many.

I mean, you'd "guess" that would happen, right? But you're not really wishing that on anyone?

Come on, fess up. You think everyone in prison deserves to be raped, or wants to rape. They just turn into savages behind those walls.
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Postby Penguin » Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:35 am

Yes, agree.
I was going to mention that too but forgot to.
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Postby Occult Means Hidden » Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:20 am

Penguin wrote:Hey, I used to like black metal long before it was in any way popular.

But desensitization to brutal sociopathic violence is not simply entertainment or escapism.
It serves a purpose.

That you feel fine watching such stuff is another matter entirely, and not necessarily a matter of hard wiring, rather socialization.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialization

Bread and circus games. Definitely nothing new either.
Can you give me some views on why Dexter is a positive or neutral influence on the viewers, or in this case, why those raps would be? Or, simple fun?

And are you saying that enjoying and being able to take as entertainment, such brutal violence, would be a good thing, instead of something to be concerned about?


I think its a "good" thing in that it helps you understand what kind of people can be in this world. Sheltered lives have no realistic view of how people are or can be. In such a way, that kind of indulgence is an education. In that way, this stuff is "valuable".

I think, ideally, there should be enough faith in humanity that we aren't so weak-minded that we do what we see - as if we had no choice in the matter. Realistically however, ideals don't always match up, and sure, unfortunately this stuff can influence weak people. Too much of anything is bad, afterall.
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Postby elfismiles » Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:39 am

bubblefunk wrote:Here we reach the inevitable moment in the thread where we begin to celebrate prison rape, considering that part of the punishment of imprisonment and wishing it upon others. Such celebration is so predictable and so wrong - can we - just for once - veer left or right and not do it? It's less so here on RI than other places, but nonetheless, it seems to happen spontaneously and bring such enjoyment to so many.

I mean, you'd "guess" that would happen, right? But you're not really wishing that on anyone?

Come on, fess up. You think everyone in prison deserves to be raped, or wants to rape. They just turn into savages behind those walls.


Thank you for saying this BF.

I was, sadly, thinking the same thing as the posters who "went there". And then immediately realized the badness of that.
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