HW Bush Invites Obama to Texas...

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Postby smiths » Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:08 am

At the request of the Review Board, the CIA made a thorough search of its records in an attempt to determine if the "George Bush" referred to in the memorandum might be identical to President and former Director of Central Intelligence George Herbert Walker Bush. That search determined that the CIA had no association with George Herbert Walker Bush during the time frame referenced in the document.
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ahhh, thats a good one

so the CIA that organised the assassination says that they "had no association with George Herbert Walker Bush during the time frame"

oh well, case closed
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Postby barracuda » Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:19 am

Yeah, i always thought that Hoover memo was probably part of J. Edgar's blackmail file on Poppy. So he could keep his job, and stay alive at the same time, in his lace panties.

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Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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Postby 8bitagent » Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:20 am

Nordic wrote:

Time for the "Bill Hicks Moment" or perhaps the "Bill Hicks REMINDER moment".

I think Obama has been, since Day One, a tool of these people.

But yeah, to be summoned to Poppy Bush's place in the presence of Gates and especially Consigliere Baker, and forced to publicly fellate Poppy for the media ......

Talk about an "Uncle Tom" moment.

Maybe it's just me, but this is one of the most sickening things I've seen in a long long time.


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This picture is worth a 2,993 words.

Seriously though, Obama's praising of Poppy Magog is beyond the pale...given how in 1989 alone Bush Sr ordered strikes on Panama City that killed thousands and devestated the capital...all to get his former drug runner pal Noriega.

Poppy and Babs might talk a good game about philanthropy, volunteerism, speaking out against racism, etc...but I've no doubt there's a shadow side to H-Dub.

And while everyone can laugh and call anyone an idiot for pointing this out...I dont find it a coincidence that after a decade of hammering us
with "OSAMA the devil" the same elite brought out "OBAMA the savior".
HMW talks about keyword hijacking and reverse meme-gineering, aint nothing more in your face than the Osama/Obama thing, and the
"Obama Biden" posters.
Make no mistake, Obama was NOT an organic win, but selected and engineered to win after the neocons played their part as the cartoonish bad guys.
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Postby 8bitagent » Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:26 am

freemason9 wrote:
rrapt wrote:Going back a little bit...

GWHB was in Dallas on Nov. 22, 1963 but has steadfastly denied it.

His "family friend" Hinckley tried to kill Reagan and raise him to top dog position.

By most accounts, Papa Bush was the man behind the throne during Reagan's full eight years.

Does anyone else find it odd that he was palling around with ex-pres Billy Clinton for an extended time there?

So now is the time to initiate the new guy (in private, under cover of a staged celebration) into the program, inform Obama of a few essential facts that he needs to know in order to do his job properly.

You can call me a wacko conspiracist; I may take it as a compliment. :shock:


Wait, though.

This is exactly the kind of thing that de-legitimizes so much honest work by historians and theorists. You say that GHW Bush was in Dallas on 11-23-63; I say, prove it.

You can't. If you have no proof, don't pretend to grasp the facts. Because then it becomes faith-related speculation, and that is like religion.


Besides the alleged photo of GHWB at Dealy Plaza and the Hoover memo? Ok, yeah there's only speculation

Only speculation H-Dub is involved in the Franklin scandal, only speculation he's been involved in black brotherhood occult activity.

Whats not speculation is the fact he was involved with the CIA long before he "officially" was said to have worked. The HW handprints are all over the Bay of Pigs, from Zapata to the use of the Barbara 3 ship.

Whats also not speculation is that John Hinkley Jr's brother and father were close family friends of the Bushes and top campaign contributors. His older brother was suppose to have met with Neil Bush the night of the assassination.

And if we erase all the potential evil HW was involved with in the 40's through 80's, we still have the Panama operation which to me is a clear cut war crime. Poppy Bush is definitely not the saint the left and right seem to think he is.
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Postby yathrib » Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:59 pm

I was just thinking how much this resembles current teabagger talking points:





Three Dallas businessmen paid for this full-page and published the morning
Nov. 22, 1963, in The Dallas Morning News.

WELCOME MR. KENNEDY TO
DALLAS. . .


. . .A CITY so disgraced by a recent Liberal smear attempt that its citizens have just elected two more Conservative Americans to public office.


. . .A CITY that is an economic "boom town," not because of Federal handouts, but through conservative economic and business practices.


. . .A CITY that will continue to grow and prosper despite efforts by you and your administration to penalize it for its non-conformity to New Frontierism.


. . .A CITY that rejected your philosophy and policies in 1960 and will do so again in 1964--even more emphatically than before.


MR. KENNEDY, despite contentions on the part of your administration, the State Department, the Mayor of Dallas, the Dallas City Council, and members of your party, we free-thinking and America-thinking citizens of Dallas still have, through a Constitution largely ignored by you, the right to address our grievances, to question you, to disagree with you, and to criticize you.


In asserting this constitutional right, we wish to ask you publicly the following questions--indeed, questions of paramount importance and interest to all free peoples everywhere--which we trust you will answer. . .in public, without sophistry.

These questions are:



WHY is Latin America turning either anti-American or Communistic, or both, despite increased U. S. foreign aid, State Department policy, and your own Ivy-Tower pronouncements?


WHY do you say we have built a "wall of freedom" around Cuba when there is no freedom in Cuba today? Because of your policy, thousands of Cubans have been imprisoned, are starving and being persecuted--with thousands already murdered and thousands more awaiting execution and, in addition, the entire population of almost 7,000,000 Cubans are living in slavery.

WHY have you approved the sale of wheat and corn to our enemies when you know the Communist soldiers "travel on their stomachs" just as ours do? Communist soldiers are daily wounding and or killing American soldiers in South Viet Nam.


WHY did you host and entertain Tito--Moscow's Trojan Horse--just a short time after our sworn enemy, Khrushchev, embraced the Yugoslav dictator as a great hero and leader of Communism?


WHY have you urged greater aid, comfort, recognition, and understanding for Yugoslavia, Poland, Hungary, and other Communists countries, while turning your back on the pleas of Hungarian, East German, Cuban and other anti-Communists freedom fighters?


WHY did Cambodia kick the U.S. out of its country after we poured nearly 400 Million Dollars of aid into its ultra-leftist government?


WHY has Gus Hall, head of the U.S. Communist Party praised almost every one of your policies and announced that the party will endorse and support your re-election in 1964?


WHY have you banned the showing at U.S. military bases of the film "Operation Abolition"--the movie by the House Committee on Un-American Activities exposing Communism in America?


WHY have you ordered or permitted your brother Bobby, the Attorney General, to go soft on Communists, fellow-travelers, and ultra-leftists in America, while permitting him to persecute loyal Americans who criticize you, your administration, and your leadership?


WHY are you in favor of the U.S. continuing to give economic aid to Argentina, in spite of the fact that Argentina has just seized almost 400 Million Dollars of American private property?


WHY has the Foreign Policy of the United States degenerated to the point that the C.I.A. is arranging coups and having staunch Anti-Communists Allies of the U.S. bloodily exterminated.


WHY have you scrapped the Monroe Doctrine in favor of the "Spirit of Moscow"?


MR. KENNEDY, as citizens of the United States of America, we DEMAND answers to these questions, and we want them NOW.



THE AMERICAN FACT-FINDING COMMITTEE
"An unaffillated and non-partisan group of citizens who wish truth"

BERNARD WEISSMAN,
Chairman


P.O. Box 1792 --- Dallas 21, Texas

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Postby freemason9 » Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:14 pm

8bitagent wrote:
freemason9 wrote:
rrapt wrote:Going back a little bit...

GWHB was in Dallas on Nov. 22, 1963 but has steadfastly denied it.

His "family friend" Hinckley tried to kill Reagan and raise him to top dog position.

By most accounts, Papa Bush was the man behind the throne during Reagan's full eight years.

Does anyone else find it odd that he was palling around with ex-pres Billy Clinton for an extended time there?

So now is the time to initiate the new guy (in private, under cover of a staged celebration) into the program, inform Obama of a few essential facts that he needs to know in order to do his job properly.

You can call me a wacko conspiracist; I may take it as a compliment. :shock:


Wait, though.

This is exactly the kind of thing that de-legitimizes so much honest work by historians and theorists. You say that GHW Bush was in Dallas on 11-23-63; I say, prove it.

You can't. If you have no proof, don't pretend to grasp the facts. Because then it becomes faith-related speculation, and that is like religion.


Besides the alleged photo of GHWB at Dealy Plaza and the Hoover memo? Ok, yeah there's only speculation

Only speculation H-Dub is involved in the Franklin scandal, only speculation he's been involved in black brotherhood occult activity.

Whats not speculation is the fact he was involved with the CIA long before he "officially" was said to have worked. The HW handprints are all over the Bay of Pigs, from Zapata to the use of the Barbara 3 ship.

Whats also not speculation is that John Hinkley Jr's brother and father were close family friends of the Bushes and top campaign contributors. His older brother was suppose to have met with Neil Bush the night of the assassination.

And if we erase all the potential evil HW was involved with in the 40's through 80's, we still have the Panama operation which to me is a clear cut war crime. Poppy Bush is definitely not the saint the left and right seem to think he is.


I should not have stepped into this trap.

Let me be clear about this . . . I strongly feel that the truth of the Kennedy assassination remains untold. What bothers me, though, is the blurring of facts associated with the event.

A great disservice is done whenever someone cites an assertion and presents it as fact--despite having no definitively supporting evidence. That's why most Americans don't take CT's seriously. Playing fast and loose with the facts does not promote credibility.

That's the point I was making when I challenged the statement that GHW Bush was in Dallas on the day of the assassination. It isn't a proven fact, although it was presented that way.

Stick with facts. To do otherwise diminishes the strength of the argument.

On a side note--even if the allegations regarding GHW Bush were true, what sense could we possibly make of it? He tried to warn the FBI that Kennedy was in danger, and then he went to Dallas? For what reason--to help protect Kennedy? If he were involved in a conspiracy, it's highly unlikely he would have called attention to himself.

This makes no sense at all, and the allegations need some strong support to overcome these negating arguments.
The real issue is that there is extremely low likelihood that the speculations of the untrained, on a topic almost pathologically riddled by dynamic considerations and feedback effects, will offer anything new.
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Postby IanEye » Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:46 pm

JFK wrote:I should not have stepped into this trap.


yes, yes, all well and good. But what are we to make of the fact that GHW Bush was in Fort Worth the day Reagan was shot?
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Postby smiths » Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:40 am

thats not my reading of it,

my reading is that he waited till after it was too late to create his own alibi for the record, mighty suspicious
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