Breaking: Small Plane Crashes into Austin Building

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Re: Breaking: Small Plane Crashes into Austin Building

Postby elfismiles » Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:50 pm

dbcooper41 wrote:
Is 2/18 a significant date on the militia movement calendar?

http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:SfT ... clnk&gl=us

An act establishing a militia system [microform] : passed at Trenton, February 18, 1815


Wow, I believe Alex mentioned Trenton on his Sunday show.
http://rss.infowars.com/20100214_Sun_Alex.mp3
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Re: Breaking: Small Plane Crashes into Austin Building

Postby battleshipkropotkin » Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:23 pm

http://www2.wspa.com/news/2010/feb/18/1 ... -ar-41465/

12:49 p.m.: The Internal Revenue Service in Dallas, Texas, told CNN that the building is a federal IRS outsourced building. It said 199 of its employees work there. The IRS said it thinks all employees are accounted for, but they are checking.

12:42 p.m.: The pilot of the plane had set his house on fire beforehand, stole the plane and crashed it intentionally, a federal official told CNN.

12:40 p.m.: Federal officials said two F-16 fighter jets were launched as a precaution after the crash, though terrorist intent was not indicated.

12:32 p.m.: Preliminary information indicates that the plane was a Cirrus SR 22, the FAA said. A Cirrus SR22 is a single-engine four-seat aircraft.

12:32 p.m.: The FAA said the plane departed Georgetown Municipal Airport, north of Austin, about 9:40 a.m., and that the pilot did not file a flight plan.

12:18 p.m.: Witnesses described an infernal scene that shook nearby buildings and sent fire and smoke bellowing into the sky. "I just saw smoke and flames," said CNN iReporter Mike Ernest. "I could not believe what I was seeing. It was just smoke and flames everywhere."

12:11 p.m.: Harry Evans of the Austin Fire Department said firefighters found "heavy fire destruction in and around the second floor ... lots of heat, lots of smoke, lots of fire."

12:05 p.m.: Two people were transported from the crash site to University Medical Center Brackenridge, said hospital spokeswoman Matilda Sanchez. She could not provide additional information. University Medical Center Brackenridge is the only Level 1 trauma center for adults in Austin.

12:03 p.m.: Cynthia Reed, who works in the building next to the one hit, told CNN she saw people who apparently were trapped. "They were hanging out the windows, screaming for help," she said.

12:02 p.m.: "At this time we have no reason to believe there is a nexus to criminal or terrorist activity," said Matt Chandler, spokesman for the Department of Homeland Security. "We are in the process of coordinating with state officials and other federal partners to gather more information and at this time we will defer additional questions to local officials and the FAA."

11:44 a.m.: Firefighters used two ladder trucks and other equipment to hose down the blaze at the building, which police said was located in the 9400 block of Research Boulevard. Traffic on Southbound U.S. 183, which is adjacent to the crash site, started to snarl as black smoke poured out of the seven-story building.

11:36 a.m.: A small airplane crashed into a building in Austin, Texas, Thursday morning, according to Lynn Lundsford of the Federal Aviation Administration.
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Postby MinM » Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:24 pm

The Manifesto Of Austin Texas Crash Pilot Joseph Andrew Stack
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Wow.

Check out the anti-big brother rant on EmbeddedArt.com that's almost certainly from the pilot of the crash.

First, in case there's any doubt, here's the registration data for the site:

Registrant:
Embedded Art
925 E Hwy 80
287
San Marcos, TX 78666
US

Domain name: EMBEDDEDART.COM

Administrative Contact:
Stack, Joe dns.5.sgmail@dfgh.net
925 E Hwy 80
287
San Marcos, TX 78666
US
1.3215649879
Technical Contact:
Stack, Joe dns.5.sgmail@dfgh.net
925 E Hwy 80
287
San Marcos, TX 78666
US
1.3215649879

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Record expires on 05-Jun-2010.
Record created on 05-Jun-2003.

The manifesto is dated today, and it even anticipated his death.

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If you’re reading this, you’re no doubt asking yourself, “Why did this have to happen?” The simple truth is that it is complicated and has been coming for a long time...

I saw it written once that the definition of insanity is repeating the same process over and over and expecting the outcome to suddenly be different. I am finally ready to stop this insanity. Well, Mr. Big Brother IRS man, let’s try something different; take my pound of flesh and sleep well.


The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.


Joe Stack (1956-2010)

02/18/2010

http://www.businessinsider.com/joseph-a ... sto-2010-2
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Re: Breaking: Small Plane Crashes into Austin Building

Postby JackRiddler » Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:31 pm

OH SHIT! I POSTED THE FOLLOWING BEFORE READING HIS MANIFESTO

Okay, details breaking:

Plane belongs to a Joseph Andrew Stack (uh oh three names) whose house was set on fire beforehand. According to running DU thread by TV watchers, unclear whether plane was stolen or if Stack was the pilot.

Oh, wait, there's a note!

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... texas.html

The small plane that crashed into a huge office building in Austin, Texas Thursday morning was apparently flown by a crazed pilot who first torched his house and posted a long rant against the IRS on the internet.

The seven story black glass Echelon Building housed a large IRS office.

"I know I'm hardly the first one to decide I have had all I can stand," wrote software engineer Joe Stack on his website in what appears to be his final screed, dated Wednesday.

"Violence not only is the answer, it is the only answer."

Stack's house in North Austin was set ablaze around 9 a.m.

A neighbor rescued his wife, musician Sheryl Stack, and their 12-year-old daughter, according to KXAN-TV.

Stack, who owned a small plane, was missing.

Witnesses at an adjacent mall told KXAN-TV that the plane crash was clearly intentional.

The small single engine plane came in low, nearly hitting power lines, and was roaring at full throttle on impact, the witnesses said.

"It was flying low and fast and I did a double take. I thought it was a play remote control plane. [POOR GUY. THIS WILL BE QUOTED AND USED AS "EVIDENCE" 10,000 TIMES ON THE WEB BY TONIGHT.] Then i saw the smoke," Newberg said.


Stuart Newberg was at a nearby Lexus dealership shortly before 10 a.m. when he said he saw a plane flying low and fast overhead.

When asked if the plane see

Remarkably, though the plane hit a seven-story office building at about 9:40 a.m., sparking a 50-foot fireball and breaking most of the windows, the only initial casualties were two people injured.

Despite the echoes of 911, the Department of Homeland Security said there was no indication of foreign terrorism.

At least two Texas Air National Guard F16s were scrambled, just in case. [YEAH, COS ONLY FOREIGNERS DO TANDEMS.]

The Federal Aviation Administration said the crash was "apparently a criminal act" so the FBI will lead the investigation, not the National Transportation Safety Administration.

Fire official Harry Evens said two people in the building were wounded and firefighters were still fighting the huge fire.

There was no word on the fate of the plane's pilot.

The black glass Echelon Building was not a federal building, but some federal agencies, including a 200-strong IRS office, were housed inside, KXAN-TV reported.
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Re: Breaking: Small Plane Crashes into Austin Building

Postby JackRiddler » Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:32 pm

Reading that: sounds very for real.
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Re: Breaking: Small Plane Crashes into Austin Building

Postby dbcooper41 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:51 pm

The Federal Aviation Administration said the crash was "apparently a criminal act" so the FBI will lead the investigation, not the National Transportation Safety Administration.


will it be as swift and thorough as the FBI's 9/11 plane crash investigation?

and recall, the fbi and us marshalls were immediately involved in the amy bishop case also.
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Re: Breaking: Small Plane Crashes into Austin Building

Postby JackRiddler » Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:03 pm

MinM, why did you revise your post to cut out the full text posted at embeddedart.com?

Incredibly this site is still up as of 1:52 PM on Thu 18 Feb 2010:

http://embeddedart.com/

THIS IS THE COMPLETE TEXT FROM EMBEDDEDART.COM, WHICH I BELIEVE IS NOW A PUBLIC DOMAIN HISTORICAL RECORD.

Page title: "Well Mr. Big Brother IRS Man... Take My Pound of Flesh and Sleep Well"

Apparently Joseph Stack wrote:
If you’re reading this, you’re no doubt asking yourself, “Why did this have to happen?” The simple truth is that it is complicated and has been coming for a long time. The writing process, started many months ago, was intended to be therapy in the face of the looming realization that there isn’t enough therapy in the world that can fix what is really broken. Needless to say, this rant could fill volumes with example after example if I would let it. I find the process of writing it frustrating, tedious, and probably pointless… especially given my gross inability to gracefully articulate my thoughts in light of the storm raging in my head. Exactly what is therapeutic about that I’m not sure, but desperate times call for desperate measures.

We are all taught as children that without laws there would be no society, only anarchy. Sadly, starting at early ages we in this country have been brainwashed to believe that, in return for our dedication and service, our government stands for justice for all. We are further brainwashed to believe that there is freedom in this place, and that we should be ready to lay our lives down for the noble principals represented by its founding fathers. Remember? One of these was “no taxation without representation”. I have spent the total years of my adulthood unlearning that crap from only a few years of my childhood. These days anyone who really stands up for that principal is promptly labeled a “crackpot”, traitor and worse.

While very few working people would say they haven’t had their fair share of taxes (as can I), in my lifetime I can say with a great degree of certainty that there has never been a politician cast a vote on any matter with the likes of me or my interests in mind. Nor, for that matter, are they the least bit interested in me or anything I have to say.

Why is it that a handful of thugs and plunderers can commit unthinkable atrocities (and in the case of the GM executives, for scores of years) and when it’s time for their gravy train to crash under the weight of their gluttony and overwhelming stupidity, the force of the full federal government has no difficulty coming to their aid within days if not hours? Yet at the same time, the joke we call the American medical system, including the drug and insurance companies, are murdering tens of thousands of people a year and stealing from the corpses and victims they cripple, and this country’s leaders don’t see this as important as bailing out a few of their vile, rich cronies. Yet, the political “representatives” (thieves, liars, and self-serving scumbags is far more accurate) have endless time to sit around for year after year and debate the state of the “terrible health care problem”. It’s clear they see no crisis as long as the dead people don’t get in the way of their corporate profits rolling in.

And justice? You’ve got to be kidding!

How can any rational individual explain that white elephant conundrum in the middle of our tax system and, indeed, our entire legal system? Here we have a system that is, by far, too complicated for the brightest of the master scholars to understand. Yet, it mercilessly “holds accountable” its victims, claiming that they’re responsible for fully complying with laws not even the experts understand. The law “requires” a signature on the bottom of a tax filing; yet no one can say truthfully that they understand what they are signing; if that’s not “duress” than what is. If this is not the measure of a totalitarian regime, nothing is.

How did I get here?

My introduction to the real American nightmare starts back in the early ‘80s. Unfortunately after more than 16 years of school, somewhere along the line I picked up the absurd, pompous notion that I could read and understand plain English. Some friends introduced me to a group of people who were having ‘tax code’ readings and discussions. In particular, zeroed in on a section relating to the wonderful “exemptions” that make institutions like the vulgar, corrupt Catholic Church so incredibly wealthy. We carefully studied the law (with the help of some of the “best”, high-paid, experienced tax lawyers in the business), and then began to do exactly what the “big boys” were doing (except that we weren’t steeling from our congregation or lying to the government about our massive profits in the name of God). We took a great deal of care to make it all visible, following all of the rules, exactly the way the law said it was to be done.

The intent of this exercise and our efforts was to bring about a much-needed re-evaluation of the laws that allow the monsters of organized religion to make such a mockery of people who earn an honest living. However, this is where I learned that there are two “interpretations” for every law; one for the very rich, and one for the rest of us… Oh, and the monsters are the very ones making and enforcing the laws; the inquisition is still alive and well today in this country.

That little lesson in patriotism cost me $40,000+, 10 years of my life, and set my retirement plans back to 0. It made me realize for the first time that I live in a country with an ideology that is based on a total and complete lie. It also made me realize, not only how naive I had been, but also the incredible stupidity of the American public; that they buy, hook, line, and sinker, the crap about their “freedom”… and that they continue to do so with eyes closed in the face of overwhelming evidence and all that keeps happening in front of them.

Before even having to make a shaky recovery from the sting of the first lesson on what justice really means in this country (around 1984 after making my way through engineering school and still another five years of “paying my dues” , I felt I finally had to take a chance of launching my dream of becoming an independent engineer.

On the subjects of engineers and dreams of independence, I should digress somewhat to say that I’m sure that I inherited the fascination for creative problem solving from my father. I realized this at a very young age.

The significance of independence, however, came much later during my early years of college; at the age of 18 or 19 when I was living on my own as student in an apartment in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. My neighbor was an elderly retired woman (80+ seemed ancient to me at that age) who was the widowed wife of a retired steel worker. Her husband had worked all his life in the steel mills of central Pennsylvania with promises from big business and the union that, for his 30 years of service, he would have a pension and medical care to look forward to in his retirement. Instead he was one of the thousands who got nothing because the incompetent mill management and corrupt union (not to mention the government) raided their pension funds and stole their retirement. All she had was social security to live on.

In retrospect, the situation was laughable because here I was living on peanut butter and bread (or Ritz crackers when I could afford to splurge) for months at a time. When I got to know this poor figure and heard her story I felt worse for her plight than for my own (I, after all, I thought I had everything to in front of me). I was genuinely appalled at one point, as we exchanged stories and commiserated with each other over our situations, when she in her grandmotherly fashion tried to convince me that I would be “healthier” eating cat food (like her) rather than trying to get all my substance from peanut butter and bread. I couldn’t quite go there, but the impression was made. I decided that I didn’t trust big business to take care of me, and that I would take responsibility for my own future and myself.

Return to the early ‘80s, and here I was off to a terrifying start as a ‘wet-behind-the-ears’ contract software engineer... and two years later, thanks to the fine backroom, midnight effort by the sleazy executives of Arthur Andersen (the very same folks who later brought us Enron and other such calamities) and an equally sleazy New York Senator (Patrick Moynihan), we saw the passage of 1986 tax reform act with its section 1706.

For you who are unfamiliar, here is the core text of the IRS Section 1706, defining the treatment of workers (such as contract engineers) for tax purposes. Visit this link for a conference committee report (http://www.synergistech.com/1706.shtml# ... ceCommit... ) regarding the intended interpretation of Section 1706 and the relevant parts of Section 530, as amended. For information on how these laws affect technical services workers and their clients, read our discussion here (http://www.synergistech.com/ic-taxlaw.shtml ).

SEC. 1706. TREATMENT OF CERTAIN TECHNICAL PERSONNEL.

(a) IN GENERAL - Section 530 of the Revenue Act of 1978 is amended by adding at the end thereof the following new subsection:

(d) EXCEPTION. - This section shall not apply in the case of an individual who pursuant to an arrangement between the taxpayer and another person, provides services for such other person as an engineer, designer, drafter, computer programmer, systems analyst, or other similarly skilled worker engaged in a similar line of work.

(b) EFFECTIVE DATE. - The amendment made by this section shall apply to remuneration paid and services rendered after December 31, 1986.

Note:

· "another person" is the client in the traditional job-shop relationship.

· "taxpayer" is the recruiter, broker, agency, or job shop.

· "individual", "employee", or "worker" is you.



Admittedly, you need to read the treatment to understand what it is saying but it’s not very complicated. The bottom line is that they may as well have put my name right in the text of section (d). Moreover, they could only have been more blunt if they would have came out and directly declared me a criminal and non-citizen slave. Twenty years later, I still can’t believe my eyes.

During 1987, I spent close to $5000 of my ‘pocket change’, and at least 1000 hours of my time writing, printing, and mailing to any senator, congressman, governor, or slug that might listen; none did, and they universally treated me as if I was wasting their time. I spent countless hours on the L.A. freeways driving to meetings and any and all of the disorganized professional groups who were attempting to mount a campaign against this atrocity. This, only to discover that our efforts were being easily derailed by a few moles from the brokers who were just beginning to enjoy the windfall from the new declaration of their “freedom”. Oh, and don’t forget, for all of the time I was spending on this, I was loosing income that I couldn’t bill clients.

After months of struggling it had clearly gotten to be a futile exercise. The best we could get for all of our trouble is a pronouncement from an IRS mouthpiece that they weren’t going to enforce that provision (read harass engineers and scientists). This immediately proved to be a lie, and the mere existence of the regulation began to have its impact on my bottom line; this, of course, was the intended effect.

Again, rewind my retirement plans back to 0 and shift them into idle. If I had any sense, I clearly should have left abandoned engineering and never looked back.

Instead I got busy working 100-hour workweeks. Then came the L.A. depression of the early 1990s. Our leaders decided that they didn’t need the all of those extra Air Force bases they had in Southern California, so they were closed; just like that. The result was economic devastation in the region that rivaled the widely publicized Texas S&L fiasco. However, because the government caused it, no one gave a shit about all of the young families who lost their homes or street after street of boarded up houses abandoned to the wealthy loan companies who received government funds to “shore up” their windfall. Again, I lost my retirement.

Years later, after weathering a divorce and the constant struggle trying to build some momentum with my business, I find myself once again beginning to finally pick up some speed. Then came the .COM bust and the 911 nightmare. Our leaders decided that all aircraft were grounded for what seemed like an eternity; and long after that, ‘special’ facilities like San Francisco were on security alert for months. This made access to my customers prohibitively expensive. Ironically, after what they had done the Government came to the aid of the airlines with billions of our tax dollars … as usual they left me to rot and die while they bailed out their rich, incompetent cronies WITH MY MONEY! After these events, there went my business but not quite yet all of my retirement and savings.

By this time, I’m thinking that it might be good for a change. Bye to California, I’ll try Austin for a while. So I moved, only to find out that this is a place with a highly inflated sense of self-importance and where damn little real engineering work is done. I’ve never experienced such a hard time finding work. The rates are 1/3 of what I was earning before the crash, because pay rates here are fixed by the three or four large companies in the area who are in collusion to drive down prices and wages… and this happens because the justice department is all on the take and doesn’t give a fuck about serving anyone or anything but themselves and their rich buddies.

To survive, I was forced to cannibalize my savings and retirement, the last of which was a small IRA. This came in a year with mammoth expenses and not a single dollar of income. I filed no return that year thinking that because I didn’t have any income there was no need. The sleazy government decided that they disagreed. But they didn’t notify me in time for me to launch a legal objection so when I attempted to get a protest filed with the court I was told I was no longer entitled to due process because the time to file ran out. Bend over for another $10,000 helping of justice.

So now we come to the present. After my experience with the CPA world, following the business crash I swore that I’d never enter another accountant’s office again. But here I am with a new marriage and a boatload of undocumented income, not to mention an expensive new business asset, a piano, which I had no idea how to handle. After considerable thought I decided that it would be irresponsible NOT to get professional help; a very big mistake.

When we received the forms back I was very optimistic that they were in order. I had taken all of the years information to Bill Ross, and he came back with results very similar to what I was expecting. Except that he had neglected to include the contents of Sheryl’s unreported income; $12,700 worth of it. To make matters worse, Ross knew all along this was missing and I didn’t have a clue until he pointed it out in the middle of the audit. By that time it had become brutally evident that he was representing himself and not me.

This left me stuck in the middle of this disaster trying to defend transactions that have no relationship to anything tax-related (at least the tax-related transactions were poorly documented). Things I never knew anything about and things my wife had no clue would ever matter to anyone. The end result is… well, just look around.

I remember reading about the stock market crash before the “great” depression and how there were wealthy bankers and businessmen jumping out of windows when they realized they screwed up and lost everything. Isn’t it ironic how far we’ve come in 60 years in this country that they now know how to fix that little economic problem; they just steal from the middle class (who doesn’t have any say in it, elections are a joke) to cover their asses and it’s “business-as-usual”. Now when the wealthy fuck up, the poor get to die for the mistakes… isn’t that a clever, tidy solution.

As government agencies go, the FAA is often justifiably referred to as a tombstone agency, though they are hardly alone. The recent presidential puppet GW Bush and his cronies in their eight years certainly reinforced for all of us that this criticism rings equally true for all of the government. Nothing changes unless there is a body count (unless it is in the interest of the wealthy sows at the government trough). In a government full of hypocrites from top to bottom, life is as cheap as their lies and their self-serving laws.

I know I’m hardly the first one to decide I have had all I can stand. It has always been a myth that people have stopped dying for their freedom in this country, and it isn’t limited to the blacks, and poor immigrants. I know there have been countless before me and there are sure to be as many after. But I also know that by not adding my body to the count, I insure nothing will change. I choose to not keep looking over my shoulder at “big brother” while he strips my carcass, I choose not to ignore what is going on all around me, I choose not to pretend that business as usual won’t continue; I have just had enough.

I can only hope that the numbers quickly get too big to be white washed and ignored that the American zombies wake up and revolt; it will take nothing less. I would only hope that by striking a nerve that stimulates the inevitable double standard, knee-jerk government reaction that results in more stupid draconian restrictions people wake up and begin to see the pompous political thugs and their mindless minions for what they are. Sadly, though I spent my entire life trying to believe it wasn’t so, but violence not only is the answer, it is the only answer. The cruel joke is that the really big chunks of shit at the top have known this all along and have been laughing, at and using this awareness against, fools like me all along.

I saw it written once that the definition of insanity is repeating the same process over and over and expecting the outcome to suddenly be different. I am finally ready to stop this insanity. Well, Mr. Big Brother IRS man, let’s try something different; take my pound of flesh and sleep well.



The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.




Joe Stack (1956-2010)

02/18/2010



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US

Domain name: EMBEDDEDART.COM


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925 E Hwy 80
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San Marcos, TX 78666
US
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Welcome! This site briefly describes the capabilities and experience of the Embedded Art firmware/software development service company.

Our Mission

To advance the art of programming, one project at a time; by achieving an optimum balance between cost, schedule, functionality, reliability, and maintainability.

Company Profile

Embedded Art is a small independent software house, specializing in process control and automation. In its current form it represents the culmination of 20 years of experience in the software development consulting business. Founded by Joe Stack in 1983 (under the name of Prowess Engineering) in Southern California, the company thrived for 15 years until shifting focus to the Sacramento area to take advantage of growth in the Silicon Valley.

Now, 5 years later, the expertise of Embedded Art has landed in the Austin Area expecting to lend a hand to the growing high technology industry in South-Central Texas.

The concept behind the success of Embedded Art is that we provide the experience and muscle for addressing complex software engineering development tasks. Much of today's programming is a step-wise refinement of previous development projects. With 20 years of experience, we provide the expertise that can effectively navigate around many of the pitfalls that snare the unseasoned engineer (indeed, we've seen many of the same mistakes made again and again by the inexperienced).


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Two updated versions from 2004 (according to archive.org) look identical.

No updates since then, according to archive.org, which last logged the site on June 22, 2008.

http://web.archive.org/web/200806222130 ... edart.com/

According to Link Popularity service, no one links to that site:

http://www.linkpopularity.com/linkpop.c ... m&ref=&a=1

How was it found? Did Stack e-mail the link to anyone?

It doesn't even have a ranking on Alexa, which doesn't list data for anything below site No. 100,000, but does tell how a site ranks among many millions.
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Re: Breaking: Small Plane Crashes into Austin Building

Postby psynapz » Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:22 pm

The page was written in MS Word which left some XML metadata in the page source, notably:

<o:Created>2010-02-16T19:24:00Z</o:Created>
<o:LastSaved>2010-02-18T06:42:00Z</o:LastSaved>

So he started writing it Tuesday night, polished it up this morning, and hit the tarmac.
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Re: Breaking: Small Plane Crashes into Austin Building

Postby dbcooper41 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:23 pm

Registrant:
Embedded Art
925 E Hwy 80
287
San Marcos, TX 78666
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looks like embedded arts address is a "mail and more" store.


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Re: Breaking: Small Plane Crashes into Austin Building

Postby nathan28 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:30 pm

dqueue wrote:
That building's gonna collapse.


Which? The building that was struck, or the adjacent building that houses the FBI?

/snark



Both, duh. Jeez.
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Re: Breaking: Small Plane Crashes into Austin Building

Postby Nordic » Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:40 pm

I'm so glad it wasn't terrorism!

Just watched CNN for a while while relaxing in bed because I feel like shit today.

It's not terrorism!

We can all breathe easy now.

I suppose if it was a Muslim, then it would be terrorism. But it was apparently a white guy. So. No terrorism.

Idiots.
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Re: Breaking: Small Plane Crashes into Austin Building

Postby barracuda » Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:43 pm

Can I be the first one on the thread to say that this guy sounds totally reasonable and correct? I wouldn't call that "manifesto" a rant at all. Unfortunately, he's bound to be coopted by the teabaggers as a hero.
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Re: Breaking: Small Plane Crashes into Austin Building

Postby nathan28 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:49 pm

So... who is Joe Stack? Software engineer and tax fraud? From what I gather he was $40k in "debt"? for not paying back taxes on account of participating in/founding a religion to avoid taxes. Granted, when rich people do it, it's "aggressive offshore tax defense planning" as sold by AIG; when it's DIY, it's fraud.
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Re: Breaking: Small Plane Crashes into Austin Building

Postby Nordic » Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:49 pm

barracuda wrote:Can I be the first one on the thread to say that this guy sounds totally reasonable and correct? I wouldn't call that "manifesto" a rant at all. Unfortunately, he's bound to be coopted by the teabaggers as a hero.


Yeah, I totally agree except that I figure that Fox News and their ilk are gonna selectively pull out the parts they like from his note and use them to show how this guy was a "flaming liberal" who hates republicans.

Could go either way, though, couldn't it.

When I watched CNN and Rick Sanchez a little while ago, he (being Rick Sanchez and CNN) went out of his way to talk about how this wasn't on "either side" and was "all over the map".

I.e. if you aren't in the pre-approved "camps" of "liberal vs. conservative" as defined by the corporate media, you're a nut who's all over the map and hates everybody.
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Re: Breaking: Small Plane Crashes into Austin Building

Postby nathan28 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:57 pm

Nordic wrote:
barracuda wrote:Can I be the first one on the thread to say that this guy sounds totally reasonable and correct? I wouldn't call that "manifesto" a rant at all. Unfortunately, he's bound to be coopted by the teabaggers as a hero.


Yeah, I totally agree except that I figure that Fox News and their ilk are gonna selectively pull out the parts they like from his note and use them to show how this guy was a "flaming liberal" who hates republicans.

Could go either way, though, couldn't it.

When I watched CNN and Rick Sanchez a little while ago, he (being Rick Sanchez and CNN) went out of his way to talk about how this wasn't on "either side" and was "all over the map".

I.e. if you aren't in the pre-approved "camps" of "liberal vs. conservative" as defined by the corporate media, you're a nut who's all over the map and hates everybody.


Barracuda, are we reading the same thing? I can barely follow the guy save to say that I gather he's been a tax agitator with a middle-of-the-road populist bend for about three decades now and having gotten hit with back taxes for the final time, decided to killed himself. He'd fit the standard "profile" for most suicides, too: middle-aged educated male with some degree of success at some point in life.



A suicide attack is a show of force, and by the Faux Brownshirt manual, "liberals" can't do that. So they're going to have to recoup him as either a repressed homosexual or a madman, though i imagine they've got an intern digging through internet records to find links to Al Qaeda or at least having been friends or neighbors with a Muslim.
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