Have Any Materials Been Recovered from ETs/UFOs?

[Simulist]

Is there a contingency plan for first contact with aliens?
http://www.slate.com/id/2260628/?GT1=38001

The U.S. Government can't even deal productively with intelligent life in America.

[barracuda]

Not just space pancakes...

[Simulist]

If those space pancakes had the face of Jesus on them, we'd really have something.

[psynapz]

If those space pancakes had the face of Jesus on them, we'd really have something.

[norton ash]

Is that a tall grey delivering a pizza?

[Nordic]

Is that a tall grey delivering a pizza?

Yeah it's a still frame from an alien porno movie.

[8bitagent]

It is pretty striking. I definitely think the aliens are trying to communicate to us with food.




Btw, what is people's take on the "UFO Hunters" series on tv? I was skeptical, but I found it to be an amazing show...and some episodes I was like "wow, they really 'went there' and beyond"
I wish they had covered Mothman and Ruwa 1994, but they went balls out for that show I thought.

[Luther Blissett]

Russia is rumoured to most definitely have a lot of recovered material.

[Stephen Morgan]

The space pancake, it should be remembered, was actually left by a scareship, not a you-foe, and according to the recipient it tasted "like cardboard".

[Luther Blissett]

There are a few older stories where occupants actually handed contactees different food items. One specific story had one sample tested for analysis by a university lab. I think that's what I thought when everyone was mentioning the "space pancake." I need to dig those stories up but it would probably be a chore.

[barracuda]

Simonton's pancakes were tested by the Air Force. I'm not sure, Stephen, what you mean when you say "scareship". Please elaborate.

A close encounter of the third kind is an actual meeting between humans and extraterrestrials, and Simonton's is easily the state's best known. Despite the unlikely manner in which the story unfolded, the episode survived a rigorous assessment by the U.S. Air Force and is carried in their files as "unexplained."

In 1961, Joe Simonton was a plumber; auctioneer and Santa Claus - annually, for the Eagle River Chamber of Commerce. He reported his age as 55 or 60, depending on the interviewer: At 11 a.m., April 18, Simonton was having a late breakfast when he heard a sound like that of a jet being throttled back, something like the sound of "knobby tires on wet pavement." He went into the yard and saw a flying saucer drop out of the sky and hover over his farm. It was silver and "brighter than chrome," 12 feet in height and 30 feet in diameter. On one edge were what appeared to be exhaust pipes, 6 or 7 inches in diameter.

The disc landed and a hatch opened. Inside were three dark-skinned aliens, each about 5 feet tall and weighing about 125 pounds. They appeared to be between 25 and 30 years old and were dressed in dark blue or black knit uniforms with turtleneck tops, and helmet-like caps. They were clean-shaven, Simonton said, and "Italian-looking."

The aliens did not speak in his presence, but they had a silvery jug with two handles, heavier than aluminum but lighter than steel, about a foot high. It seemed to be made out of the same material as the craft. Simonton said it was "a beautiful thing, a Thermos jug-like bottle quite unlike any jug I have ever seen here [on Earth]."

Through ESP or something, Simonton got the idea that the aliens wanted water. He left the visitors, filled the jug from the water pump in his basement, then returned to the craft and gave the jug back. To do this, he had to brace himself against the UFO's hull and stretch up. From the subsequent Air Force report: "Looking into the [saucer] he saw a man 'cooking' on some kind of flameless cooking appliance." The alien was preparing pancakes.

The interior of the UFO was dull black, even the three "extremely beautiful" instrument panels, and had the appearance of wrought iron. The contrast between the dark interior and shiny exterior so fascinated Simonton that he later said that he "would love to have a room painted in the same way."

In return for the water, one of the aliens - the only one with narrow red trim on his trousers - presented Simonton with three of the pancakes, hot from the griddle. As he did so, the alien touched his own forehead, apparently a salute in thanks to Simonton for his help. Simonton saluted back. Each of the pancakes was roughly 3 inches in diameter and perforated with small holes.

The head alien then connected a line or belt to a hook in his clothing and the hatch closed. The saucer rose about 20 feet and took off to the south, at a 45-degree angle. Its wake left a blast of air that tossed the tops of nearby pine trees. The craft took only two seconds to disappear from view.

Simonton ate one of the pancakes, ostensibly in the interest of science. "It tasted like cardboard," he told the Associated Press. The other two pancakes he gave to Vilas County Judge Frank Carter, a local UFO enthusiast. Carter, who called the aliens "saucernauts" ("I prefer Italians"), said he believed Simonton's story since he could not think of any way in which the farmer might profit from a hoax. Carter's son, Colyn, today a lawyer in Eagle River, told me, "I recall as a youngster that my dad took it very seriously."

Judge Carter sent the pancakes to what was then the country's top investigative group, the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena (NICAP). They refused the opportunity to check it out. That put a damper on Judge Carter's plans; he had wanted to hold a seminar on the incident.

By this time, Simonton said, he was "irked by reporters making fun of the situation and laughing."

In response to all this, the Air Force dispatched its civilian UFO investigator, J. Allen Hynek. Hynek at the time was an astronomer at Northwestern University. He later became convinced that UFOs are real, and founded his own investigative agency, which took over NICAP's files after that group folded. Thanks to Hynek, a Northwestern University committee and the Air Force's Technical Intelligence Center analyzed one of Simonton's pancakes and found it to be made of flour, sugar and grease; it was rumored, however, that the wheat in the pancakes was of an unknown type.

The official Air Force assessment of it all: This case is unexplained. "The only serious flaw in the story is the disappearance of the craft in 'two seconds.' The rest of the story did not contain any outrages to physical concepts," reads the report. Simonton "answered questions directly, did not contradict himself, insisted on the facts being exactly as he stated and refused to accept embellishments or modifications. He stated he was sure that we wouldn't believe him but that he didn't care whether he was believed. He stated simply that this happened and that was that."

Notice also the nomenclature used to describe the craft occupants: "Italians", "saucernauts". The term "alien" is used by the author of the 1997 book the incident is described in, The W-Files, True Reports of Unexplained Phenomena in Wisconsin.

[elfismiles]

Is there a contingency plan for first contact with aliens?
http://www.slate.com/id/2260628/?GT1=38001

Thanks for that link 8bit.

Mmmm, pancakes:

Why Was Joe Simonton Given Pancakes?
http://www.elfis.net/elfol4/e4simpan.html

One of my absolute FAVE ufo incidents.

[Montag]

Wow, I thought I knew of just about every UFO/ET encounter. Never heard that Simonton one before.

p.s. Of course, from time to time I do hear of a new one, but most of them I've heard about many times.

[Luther Blissett]

There was a pretty interesting sketch of the ufo and its inhabitants in an old book my mother had but it does not appear to be anywhere on the internet.

What is the consensus on the "Alien Interview"?

[KeenInsight]

Seems too good to be true to me.