Primary sources for the keyword hijacking theory.

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Re: Primary sources for the keyword hijacking theory.

Postby DrVolin » Sat Aug 21, 2010 2:12 pm

barracuda wrote:...it is hardly surprising that the government would be taking command of the primary popular venue for foisting propaganda on the public in the midst of a world war...


How surprising would it be for the government to give up that control once they had it?
all these dreams are swept aside
By bloody hands of the hypnotized
Who carry the cross of homicide
And history bears the scars of our civil wars

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Re: Primary sources for the keyword hijacking theory.

Postby barracuda » Sat Aug 21, 2010 2:17 pm

If you look over the "Dear Owen" letters from 1953, it becomes quite obvious that if they ever had "control" of the motion picture industry (which I doubt) they didn't have it anymore. The reality seems to be that, as you might expect, artists with the talent to master the techniques of making great movies have political beliefs of their own, which can be difficult if not impossible to practically control.
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Re: Primary sources for the keyword hijacking theory.

Postby compared2what? » Sat Aug 21, 2010 2:37 pm

82_28 wrote:I don't know if I should even crack this joke C2W, but I'm gonna give it a go at risk of angering you. I like to jollily push buttons in real life, as it should be here.

But the way you write, there would be no way KWH you. You've been inoculated it seems.

:angelwings: :shrug: :angelwings: :shrug: :angelwings: :shrug:


I agree with barracuda on the it-not-being-about-my-quirks tip, of course. But just for the record, that didn't anger me at all. It edified and amused me, in fact. I mean....I guess that in the abstract, people who appeared genuinely to enjoy merrily mindfucking others whose vulnerabilities they had absolutely no way of gauging by insulting them and then pretending it was a joke just for sport would kind of piss me off, I have to admit. But rightly or wrongly, at least as I understand it, that's not really your M.O. in any habitual way.

Plus, I did say something to you that was much meaner than I intended it to be not too long ago. So I couldn't really honestly sit here acting all innocent and aggrieved even if you'd hit the button at which you were jollily aiming. In all fairness. You woulda had just cause.

So no worries and my truly felt apologies, in short.
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Re: Primary sources for the keyword hijacking theory.

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sat Aug 21, 2010 4:36 pm

...no time, just hit-and-run to correct last nights's tired dumb mistakes of recall...

I meant Zipf's Law of Hierarchical Association.
Not Zeigarnik. The Zeigarnik Effect is different.

How could I have mistakenly recalled Zeigarnik insteat of Zipf? Relevant to op? Yes.
Due to the Recency Effect.
I was recently discussing Zeigarnik Effect with some high school teachers.

Ulp. Did I say...hit-and-run? Today's CIA-NYTimes-
http://www.the-dispatch.com/article/201 ... r-Manatees
Looking for Trouble on "Highway" for Manatees
August 21, 2010
.....

Gotta go, more later.
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Re: Primary sources for the keyword hijacking theory.

Postby barracuda » Sat Aug 21, 2010 5:10 pm

I can't tell you how long I've been anticipating you'd intimate that a mainstream story about your beflippered mascot was actually a keyword hijack of your username. Awesome. You aren't lacking in the quality of self-importance, I'll give you that.

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Re: Primary sources for the keyword hijacking theory.

Postby jingofever » Sat Aug 21, 2010 7:02 pm

barracuda wrote:I can't tell you how long I've been anticipating you'd intimate that a mainstream story about your beflippered mascot was actually a keyword hijack of your username. Awesome. You aren't lacking in the quality of self-importance, I'll give you that.

That's not exactly the first time.

Here:
Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:Especially since the Washington Post and NPR already took countermeasures on 4/2/07 against my expose of keyword hijacking. The WP Human Behavior column was some piffle about 'the decoy effect' that was spun into propaganda on choosing candidates.
Having exposed the White House's PR film company called 'The Johnson Group' trying to innoculate US school kids against Project Paperclip, I'm pretty sure that WP column was (appropriately) a keyword hijacking of....keyword hijacking.

And here:
Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:2/14/08 11:25 am RI (IanEye) looks at the movie 'Being There.'

2/14/08 5:36 pm HMW posts that " 'Being There' is psy-ops."

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2/15/08 11:12 am NPR In Character Blog adds...'Being There.'
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Re: Primary sources for the keyword hijacking theory.

Postby Nordic » Sat Aug 21, 2010 7:32 pm

Are you guys on a path that will actually make me feel sorry for Hugh?
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Re: Primary sources for the keyword hijacking theory.

Postby Project Willow » Sat Aug 21, 2010 8:34 pm

Nordic wrote:Are you guys on a path that will actually make me feel sorry for Hugh?


At some point it matters not whether someone is a momma's basement-dwelling neurotic or a full-salaried professional. Boundaries must be raised and defended, because real vics feel and wince from the brunt of their behavior.
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Re: Primary sources for the keyword hijacking theory.

Postby IanEye » Sat Aug 21, 2010 8:35 pm

hey thanks for that link jingofever, i haven't watched Batpussy in ages. i'll have to dig that one out...
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Re: Primary sources for the keyword hijacking theory.

Postby Nordic » Sat Aug 21, 2010 9:25 pm

Project Willow wrote:
Nordic wrote:Are you guys on a path that will actually make me feel sorry for Hugh?


At some point it matters not whether someone is a momma's basement-dwelling neurotic or a full-salaried professional. Boundaries must be raised and defended, because real vics feel and wince from the brunt of their behavior.



I have mixed feelings.
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Re: Primary sources for the keyword hijacking theory.

Postby compared2what? » Sat Aug 21, 2010 11:53 pm

jingofever wrote:
barracuda wrote:I can't tell you how long I've been anticipating you'd intimate that a mainstream story about your beflippered mascot was actually a keyword hijack of your username. Awesome. You aren't lacking in the quality of self-importance, I'll give you that.

That's not exactly the first time.

Here:
Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:Especially since the Washington Post and NPR already took countermeasures on 4/2/07 against my expose of keyword hijacking. The WP Human Behavior column was some piffle about 'the decoy effect' that was spun into propaganda on choosing candidates.
Having exposed the White House's PR film company called 'The Johnson Group' trying to innoculate US school kids against Project Paperclip, I'm pretty sure that WP column was (appropriately) a keyword hijacking of....keyword hijacking.

And here:
Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:2/14/08 11:25 am RI (IanEye) looks at the movie 'Being There.'

2/14/08 5:36 pm HMW posts that " 'Being There' is psy-ops."

---------

2/15/08 11:12 am NPR In Character Blog adds...'Being There.'


You forgot this one:

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:Disney's 'Little Mermaid' series included in the 2008 episode a fat...gay...manatee...as henchman of the obligatory Evil Aspiring Woman.

Oh. And he has a key...around his neck...ouch the threat.

http://blogout.justout.com/?p=1439
Little Mermaid Prequel Has a Gay Manatee?
August 27th, 2008 at 2:56 pm by Chris Kramer

It’s not stone proof probably just jumping to conclusions, but the villain, Marina Del Ray voiced by Sally Field in the new straight to DVD Disney movie The Little Mermaid: Aeriel’s Beginning, seems to have a fabulously gay manatee for a stylist/assistant. As Lynn and Alex of laragmag.com said in their blog about it:

The best part was the villain, Marina Del Ray, has a fat gay manatee as her sidekick named Benjamin, with a lisp and everything! We were dying to be honest, clapping and praising Disney from our couch for how far they’ve come.


Psyops science-
"Method of Loci"
...and it's decoy movie, 'The Mask,' about Loki, the Norse god of mischief.
See Posner and Snyder on masked priming.

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Re: Primary sources for the keyword hijacking theory.

Postby compared2what? » Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:10 am

Nordic wrote:
Project Willow wrote:
Nordic wrote:Are you guys on a path that will actually make me feel sorry for Hugh?


At some point it matters not whether someone is a momma's basement-dwelling neurotic or a full-salaried professional. Boundaries must be raised and defended, because real vics feel and wince from the brunt of their behavior.



I have mixed feelings.


I affirmatively dislike it, nothing mixed about it. Also, I like Hugh.

As I've said before, Hugh just has likability and is endearing and always will be, and that's that. And I say that even though he has, to all appearances, done stuff like repeatedly misrepresent stuff I wrote using words with subtly negative connotations, which -- as I was just saying two posts ago -- is an almost fail-safe way to change general opinion about the subject targeted for the worse, irrespective both of whether it's merited or unmerited and true or false.

If it's any comfort to you at all, due to various (real) quirks and biases of human memory, the posters who care enough about the government's systematic psychological manipulation of its citizens not to want to see people being aggressively misled about by what means and methods said bamboozlement goes down are actually much, much likelier to leave readers with a lasting unsympathetic impression of themselves by correcting Hugh's one-billionth guileless and confident repetition of the same damn piece of misinformation than Hugh's in any real danger of doing by repeating it.

As I'm pretty sure he knows. But maybe not. Whatever the case, that's basically why both you and I feel sympathy for him when he's on the ropes, in fact. Even still, and despite my personal dislike of both feeling like and appearing to be a vicious and relentless thug...Well, you know: He's wrong on a consequential point.

And whom does it help to indulge his errors? Not him. Not you. Not I. Not society at large. If anything, it harms us/him/it/them. At a minimum, it definitely has the potential to do so.

Anyway. I hear you. I don't like it either. I just can't really see a better option.
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Re: Primary sources for the keyword hijacking theory.

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:51 am

http://www.stripes.com/keystroke-battle ... e-1.115432

Keystroke battles: Are young hackers the future of warfare?
By CHARLIE REED
Stars and Stripes
Published: August 20, 2010
......
The report included an oft-cited statistic attributed to Jim Gosler, founding director of the CIA’s Clandestine Information Technology Office and an NSA visiting scientist.

“There are about 1,000 security people in the U.S. who have the specialized security skills to operate effectively in cyberspace,” Gosler said in 2008. “We need 10,000 to 30,000.”
......



...as I type CIA-NPR's 'This American Life' show is featuring..."superheroes and CIA recruiting of women"....

It's kinda late in the game for RI usernames to smirkingly assert that:

> There isn't monitoring of the internet for information liabilities
> Monitors would take no notice of focus on constant posting about military control of media
> Monitors would ignore constant exposure of psyops for kidz
> NPR is not a spook outifit
> Disney is not a spook outfit
> Spooks don't monitor RigorousIntuition
> Spooks don't market counterpropaganda to prevent viral marketing of hostile information
> Spooks don't exploit mnemonics that any college marketing major know inside and out
etc.

barracuda, you probably won't find the one-source command to 'go forth and keyword hijack' anymore than you'll find a Republican document to 'go forth and steal yon election.'

The KH strategy is a combination of multiple psyops strategies that ARE in print.
Army FM33-1 and FM33-5 repeatedly advise that psyops is usually carried out as a combination of strategies.

> "counterpropaganda" and
> "Imitative deception" and
> "grey propaganda" and
> "black propaganda" and
> "conditioning" and
> "forestalling"
....are all elements of keyword hijacking which are clearly spelled out in FM33-1 and FM33-5.

FM3-1 declares that there is not much difference between psyops and advertising.

The techniques of OUT-MARKETING the competition ("subversives") is in any college marketing course.
The techniques of designing an ad campaign is in any college marketing course.

My detractors don't seem to have any grasp of military doctrines, marketing, or cognitive science.
I encourage others to do their own research and avoid wasting time on the ad hominem slingers..
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Re: Primary sources for the keyword hijacking theory.

Postby Project Willow » Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:55 am

Nordic wrote:I have mixed feelings.


I guarantee you there is a significant population that faces social ostracization and ridicule every day due to the kind of misinformation generated by the Hughs of the world, is there no empathy for them?

compared2what? wrote:As I've said before, Hugh just has likability and is endearing and always will be, and that's that..


Which is an opinion I would assert comes from limited and public experience.
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Re: Primary sources for the keyword hijacking theory.

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:03 am

If you have no information regarding the op, Project Willow, take your ad hominem attacks elsewhere.
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