New studies show people can anticipate future events

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Re: New studies show people can anticipate future events

Postby Hammer of Los » Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:59 am

I think several of us accurately saw the future of this thread;

HMW wrote:"PSI" is really the anchor of media conditioning, PARASOCIAL INTERACTION.

That's why the bogus 'ESP' nonsense is used as a cover version of psi.
And Bem is muddling the use of semantic priming with a nonsense version. For the National inSecurity State.


Hugh, I always loved you man, you know that, but this appears at first glance to be nonsense.

It actually made me laugh out loud. Sorry, but it did.

You could (although I don't actually want you to) try and explain it further, in another thread devoted to this particular researcher perhaps, or the body of literature on "parasocial interaction." I mean this is the first time I have ever heard the phrase and I am actually enormously well-read. I could go and research it now, but I don't think I shall. I've already read a great deal of the useful material you have posted here on the science of social control. Thank you for that.

Hugh, in all seriousness you are stretching your theories far beyond their breaking point now. I understand apophenia. I shouldn't have said that probably, take care Hugh man.

I shouldn't have responded, because I am assisting in the derailing of the thread. But there you go.

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Re: New studies show people can anticipate future events

Postby jingofever » Sat Oct 23, 2010 3:00 pm

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:"PSI" is really the anchor of media conditioning, PARASOCIAL INTERACTION.

That's why the bogus 'ESP' nonsense is used as a cover version of psi.

To be fair, according to Wikipedia, the term 'parasocial interaction' was introduced in 1956 while the term 'psi' was introduced in 1942 so psi does have precedence. I can think of an explanation for how people in 1942 were able to coin a word to cover an idea that would pop up in 1956 but I don't think you will like it.
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Re: New studies show people can anticipate future events

Postby 82_28 » Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:15 pm

"In paranoid thinking a person believes he has detected a conspiracy--that
is, a hidden (and malevolent) pattern in the behavior of friends, associates
or governments--where in fact no such pattern exists. If there IS such a
conspiracy, the subject may be profoundly anxious, but his thinking is not
necessarily paranoid. A famous case involves James Forrestal, the first
U.S. Secretary of Defense. At the end of World War II, Forrestal was
convinced that Israeli secret agents were following him everywhere. His
physicians, equally convinced of the absurdity of this idee fixe, diagnosed
him as paranoid and confined him to an upper story of Walter Reed Army
Hospital, from which he plunged to his death, partly because of inadequate
supervision by hospital personnel, overly deferential to on of his exalted
rank. Later it was discovered that Forrestal was indeed being followed by
Israeli agents who were worried that he might reach a secret understanding
with representatives of Arab nations. Forrestal had other problems, but
having his valid perception labeled paranoid did not help his condition."
-- Carl Sagan, "The Dragons of Eden: Speculations on the Evolution of Human
Intelligence," (New York: Random House, 1977), p. 181.
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Re: New studies show people can anticipate future events

Postby Penguin » Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:48 pm

http://www.scientificexploration.org/jo ... _radin.pdf
Radin's older studies on the same subject. No opinion, I just recalled reading about them before.

JackRiddler wrote:How often am I right for each time I'm wrong? - O, snap, you got it!


Pretty few of many and then some.

JackRiddler wrote:I suspect this is a related thread:

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=27505


That too.

Yet I feel there is truth to these claims. Puzzling as it may be.
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Re: New studies show people can anticipate future events

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:59 am

Has Daryl Bem worked anywhere that has strong links to the CIA and Pentagon? Yes.
Has Daryl Bem worked on topics of interest to the CIA and Pentagon? Yes. Read Christopher Simpson's books.
Would Daryl Bem know all about parasocial interaction in his field? Yes.

So for him to promote the bogus ESP-as-PSI would be like a therapist claiming that Freud is really just the name of the Face on Mars, not a real person.
Bald lies to dupe the naive plebes and keep them away from the science of herding with media conditioning using role models and stereotypes.

Hey, hammer. I didn't know about parasocial interaction until a few years ago, either.


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Bem's website with his history-
http://dbem.ws/

DARYL J. BEM
Professor of Psychology

Addresses & Phone Numbers:

Department of Psychology - Uris Hall
Cornell University
Ithaca, NY 14853-7601
E-Mail: djb5@cornell.edu



Education:

1956-60 Reed College: BA in physics
1960-61 MIT: (Graduate work in physics)
1961-64 University of Michigan: PhD in social psychology

Positions Held:

2007- Cornell University: Professor Emeritus of Psychology
1978-2007 Cornell University: Professor of Psychology
1987-88 Harvard University: Visiting Professor of Psychology
1971-78 Stanford University: Professor of Psychology
1964-71 Carnegie-Mellon University: Assistant Professor to
Professor of Psychology & Industrial Administration

Research Interests:

Beliefs, Attitudes, and Ideologies
Psi Phenomena (ESP)
Sexual Orientation
Personality Theory and Assessment
Self-Perception

Professional Societies:

Phi Beta Kappa
Fellow, American Psychological Association (APA)
Charter Fellow, Association of Psychological Science (APS)
Parapsychological Association

Most Recent Article: Bem, D. J. (in press) Feeling the Future: Experimental evidence for anomalous retroactive influences on cognition and affect. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology.

Brief Biography

Internet Posting: Bem, D. J. (2005, July 19) Are Self-identified Bisexuals Just Lying to Us—or to Themselves?

Abstracts & articles available online

List of publications

Related Websites on Psi (ESP) and Social Psychology

Cornell Psychology Department Home Page

Cornell University Home Page

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Re: New studies show people can anticipate future events

Postby Nordic » Sun Oct 24, 2010 3:47 am

I often recognize people from the future when I meet them. If there's a future with them, that is.

I've alway been quite uncertain as to the direction that time travels. I sure don't think it's unilaterally traveling in one direction all the time.

And I've been clairvoyant more times than I can count.

Lately I'm having tons of synchronicities in my life, almost a constant flow of them. The other day I met a guy named "Zorin" or "Zorn", never met anyone with that name in my life, twenty minutes later I'm taking a piss and I look down at the urinal and the manufacturer's name on the urinal is "Zorn". And this fellow Zorin or Zorn was one of the most profoundly negative people I've ever met in my life.

Just as one tiny example. They're happening in pairs these days. Kind of a doubling.

I just go with it. I like it. I feel like I'm in some kind of a flow right now, which is something i haven't felt in way too long a time.
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Re: New studies show people can anticipate future events

Postby jingofever » Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:43 am

People are actually paying attention to the paper. Is this evidence that we can see the future?

What's more, sceptical psychologists who have pored over a preprint of the paper say they can't find any significant flaws. "My personal view is that this is ridiculous and can't be true," says Joachim Krueger of Brown University in Providence, Rhode Island, who has blogged about the work on the Psychology Today website. "Going after the methodology and the experimental design is the first line of attack. But frankly, I didn't see anything. Everything seemed to be in good order."

Bem says his paper was reviewed by four experts who proposed amendments, but still recommended publication. Still, the journal will publish a sceptical editorial commentary alongside the paper, says Judd. "We hope it spurs people to try to replicate these effects."

One failed attempt at replication has already been posted online. In this study, Jeff Galak of Carnegie Mellon University in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and Leif Nelson of the University of California, Berkeley, employed an online panel called Consumer Behavior Lab in an effort to repeat Bem's findings on the recall of words.

Bem argues that online surveys are inconclusive, because it's impossible to know whether volunteers have paid sufficient attention to the task. Galak concedes that this is a limitation of the initial study, but says he is now planning a follow-up involving student volunteers that will more closely repeat the design of Bem's word-recall experiment.

This seems certain to be just the first exchange in a lively debate: Bem says that dozens of researchers have already contacted him requesting details of the work.
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Re: New studies show people can anticipate future events

Postby JackRiddler » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:19 am

I downloaded the paper off Bem's site. Here is the write-up of the first experiment, which is also the one with the most pronounced result. It's just a couple of pages. Comments later if I have time.

Precognitive Approach and Avoidance

The presentiment studies provide evidence that our physiology can anticipate unpredictable
erotic or negative stimuli before they occur. Such anticipation would be evolutionarily
advantageous for reproduction and survival if the organism could act instrumentally to approach
erotic stimuli and avoid negative stimuli. The two experiments in this section were designed to
test whether individuals can do so.

Experiment 1: Precognitive Detection of Erotic Stimuli

As noted above, most of the earlier experiments in precognition explicitly challenged
participants to guess which one of several stimuli would be randomly selected after they
recorded their guess. In most of these experiments, participants were also given explicit trial-bytrial
feedback on their performance. This first experiment adopts that same traditional protocol,
using erotic pictures as explicit reinforcement for correct “precognitive” guesses.

Method

One hundred Cornell undergraduates, 50 women and 50 men, were recruited for this
experiment using the Psychology Department’s automated online sign-up system.1 They either
received one point of experimental credit in a psychology course offering that option or were
paid $5 for their participation. Both the recruiting announcement and the introductory
explanation given to participants upon entering the laboratory informed them that
this is an experiment that tests for ESP. It takes about 20 minutes and is run
completely by computer. First you will answer a couple of brief questions. Then,
on each trial of the experiment, pictures of two curtains will appear on the screen
side by side. One of them has a picture behind it; the other has a blank wall

1I set 100 as the minimum number of participants/sessions for each of the experiments reported in this
article because most effect sizes (d) reported in the psi literature range between 0.2 and 0.3. If d = 0.25
and N = 100, the power to detect an effect significant at .05 by a one-tailed, one-sample t test is .80
(Cohen, 1988).

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behind it. Your task is to click on the curtain that you feel has the picture behind
it. The curtain will then open, permitting you to see if you selected the correct
curtain. There will be 36 trials in all.
Several of the pictures contain explicit erotic images (e.g., couples engaged in
nonviolent but explicit consensual sexual acts). If you object to seeing such
images, you should not participate in this experiment.
The participant then signed a consent form and was seated in front of the computer. After
responding to two individual-difference items (discussed below), the participant had a 3-min
relaxation period during which the screen displayed a slowly moving Hubble photograph of the
starry sky while peaceful new-age music played through stereo speakers. The 36 trials began
immediately after the relaxation period.
Stimuli. Most of the pictures used in this experiment were selected from the International
Affective Picture System (IAPS; Lang & Greenwald, 1993), a set of 820 digitized photographs
that have been rated on 9-point scales for valence and arousal by both male and female raters.
This is the same source of pictures used in most presentiment studies. Each session of the
experiment included both erotic and nonerotic pictures randomly intermixed, and the main psi
hypothesis was that participants would be able to identify the position of the hidden erotic
picture significantly more often than chance (50%).
The hit rate on erotic trials can also be compared with the hit rates on the nonerotic trials to
test whether there is something unique about erotic content in addition to its positive valence and
high arousal value. For this purpose, 40 of the sessions comprised 12 trials using erotic pictures,
12 trials using negative pictures, and 12 trials using neutral pictures. The sequencing of the
pictures and their left/right positions were randomly determined by the programming language’s
internal random function. The remaining 60 sessions comprised 18 trials using erotic pictures
and 18 trials using nonerotic positive pictures with both high and low arousal ratings. These

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included eight pictures featuring couples in romantic but nonerotic situations (e.g., a romantic
kiss, a bride and groom at their wedding). The sequencing of the pictures on these trials was
randomly determined by a randomizing algorithm devised by Marsaglia (1997), and their
left/right target positions were determined by an Araneus Alea I hardware-based random number
generator. (The rationale for using different randomizing procedures is discussed in detail
below.)
Although it is always desirable to have as many trials as possible in an experiment, there
are practical constraints limiting the number of critical trials that can be included in this and
several others experiments reported in this article. In particular, on all the experiments using
highly arousing erotic or negative stimuli a relatively large number of nonarousing trials must be
included to permit the participant’s arousal level to “settle down” between critical trials. This
requires including many trials that do not contribute directly to the effect being tested.
In our first retroactive experiment (Experiments 5, described below), women showed psi
effects to highly arousing stimuli but men did not. Because this appeared to have arisen from
men’s lower arousal to such stimuli, we introduced different erotic and negative pictures for men
and women in subsequent studies, including this one, using stronger and more explicit images
from Internet sites for the men. We also provided two additional sets of erotic pictures so that
men could choose the option of seeing male–male erotic images and women could choose the
option of seeing female–female erotic images.2
From the participants’ point of view, this procedure appears to test for clairvoyance. That
is, they were told that a picture was hidden behind one of the curtains and their challenge was to
guess correctly which curtain concealed the picture. In fact, however, neither the picture itself

2 In describing the experiments throughout this article, I have used the plural pronouns “we” and “our” to
refer collectively to myself and my research team.

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nor its left/right position was determined until after the participant recorded his or her guess,
making the procedure a test of detecting a future event, that is, a test of precognition.
Results and Discussion
Across all 100 sessions, participants correctly identified the future position of the erotic
pictures significantly more frequently than the 50% hit rate expected by chance: 53.1%, t(99) =
2.51, p = .01, d = 0.25.3 In contrast, their hit rate on the nonerotic pictures did not differ
significantly from chance: 49.8%, t(99) = -0.15, p = .56. This was true across all types of
nonerotic pictures: neutral pictures, 49.6%; negative pictures, 51.3%; positive pictures, 49.4%;
and romantic but nonerotic pictures, 50.2%. (All t values < 1.) The difference between erotic and
nonerotic trials was itself significant, tdiff(99) = 1.85, p = .031, d = 0.19. Because erotic and
nonerotic trials were randomly interspersed in the trial sequence, this significant difference also
serves to rule out the possibility that the significant hit rate on erotic pictures was an artifact of
inadequate randomization of their left/right positions.
Because there are distribution assumptions underlying t tests, the significance levels of
most of the positive psi results reported in this article were also calculated with nonparametric
tests. In this experiment, the hit rates on erotic trials were also analyzed with a binomial test on
the overall proportion of hits across all trials and sessions, tested against a null of .5. This is
analogous to analyzing a set of coin flips without regard to who or how many are doing the
flipping. It is legitimate here because the target is randomly selected on each trial and hence the
trials are statistically independent, even within a single session. Across all 100 sessions, the
53.1% hit rate is also significant by a binomial test, z = 2.30, p = .011.

3 Unless otherwise indicated, all significance levels reported in this article are based on one-tailed tests
and d is used as the index of effect size.

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Individual Differences. There were no significant sex differences in the present
experiment. Over the years, however, the trait of extraversion has been frequently reported as a
correlate of psi, with extraverts achieving higher psi scores than introverts. A meta-analysis of 60
independent experiments published between 1945 and 1983, involving several kinds of psi tasks,
revealed a small but reliable correlation between extraversion and psi performance, r = .09, z =
4.63, p = .000004 (Honorton, Ferrari, & Bem, 1992). The correlation was observed again in a
later set of telepathy studies conducted in Honorton’s own laboratory, r = .18, t(216) = 2.67, p =
.004 (Bem & Honorton, 1994).
The component of extraversion that underlies this correlation appears to be the extravert’s
susceptibility to boredom and a tendency to seek out stimulation. Eysenck attributed the positive
correlation between extraversion and psi to the fact that extraverts “are more susceptible to
monotony…[and] respond more favourably to novel stimuli” (1966, p. 59). Sensation seeking is
one of the 6 facets of extraversion on the Revised NEO Personality Inventory (Costa & McCrae,
1992), and Zuckerman’s Sensation Seeking Scale (1974), which contains a subscale of Boredom
Susceptibility, is significantly correlated with overall extraversion (r = .47, p < .01; Farley &
Farley, 1967).
To assess stimulus seeking as a correlate of psi performance in our experiments, I
constructed a scale comprising the following two statements: “I am easily bored” and “I often
enjoy seeing movies I’ve seen before” (reverse scored). Responses were recorded on 5-point
scales that ranged from Very Untrue to Very True and averaged into a single score ranging from
1 to 5.
In the present experiment, the correlation between stimulus seeking and psi performance
was .18 (p = .035). This significant correlation is reflected in the enhanced psi scores of those
scoring above the midpoint on the 5-point stimulus-seeking scale: They correctly identified the

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future position of the picture on 57.6% of the erotic trials, t(41) = 4.57, p = .00002, d = 0.71,
exact binomial p = .00008. The difference between their erotic and nonerotic hit rates was itself
significant, tdiff(41) = 3.23, p = .001, d = 0.50, with 71% of participants achieving higher hit rates
on erotic trials than on nonerotic trials (exact binomial p = .003). Their psi scores on nonerotic
trials did not exceed chance, 49.9%, t(41) = -0.08, p = .53. Finally, participants low in stimulus
seeking did not score significantly above chance on either erotic or nonerotic trials 49.9%, t(57)
= -0.06 and 49.9%, t(57) = -0.13, respectively.
But is it Precognition? The Role of Random Number Generators. For most
psychological experiments, a random number table or the random function built into most
programming languages provides an adequate tool for randomly assigning participants to
conditions or sequencing stimulus presentations. For both methodological and conceptual
reasons, however, psi researchers have paid much closer attention to issues of randomization.
At the methodological level, the problem is that the random functions included in most
computer languages are not very good in that they fail one or more of the mathematical tests
used to assess the randomness of a sequence of numbers (L’Ecuyer, 2001), such as Marsaglia’s
rigorous Diehard Battery of Tests of Randomness (1995). Such random functions are sometimes
called pseudo random number generators (PRNGs) because they use a mathematical algorithm to
generate each subsequent number from the previous number, and the sequence of numbers is
random only in the sense that it satisfies (or should satisfy) certain mathematical tests of
randomness. It is not random in the sense of being indeterminate because once the initial starting
number (the seed) is set, all future numbers in the sequence are fully determined.
In contrast, a hardware-based or “true” RNG is based on a physical process, such as
radioactive decay ...


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Re: New studies show people can anticipate future events

Postby JackRiddler » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:44 am

Oh, why delay.

I find that the blogger Daniel Hawes on psychology today already took it apart.

Satirical version (fails on the communication)
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evo ... rch?page=2

Better revision
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evo ... eally-mean

Indicative quote:

I particularly like Prof. Bem philosophy of not being partial to preconceived hypotheses. Instead he seems to be very willing to let the data inform him about what his hypothesis should have been. I can write this, because Prof. Bem himself writes in his book on ""Writing the empirical journal article":

"There are two possible articles you can write: (1) the article you planned to write when you designed your study or (2) the article that makes the most sense now that you have seen the results. They are rarely the same, and the
correct answer is (2)." (Bem, 2003, pp. 171-172)

What does this mean? It means that you could start off with the hypothesis that PSI powers might be particularly effective at helping people avoid negative events in the future (The article argues as much for many of the experiments). However, when you compare participants ability to detect erotic images against neutral and negative images (as Bem does in his first study), and you find that participants are particularly good at detecting the erotic images, you should not ignore this evidence. Also, if your subjects seem incapable of avoiding negative images in this study (they hit them slightly more often than chance), it will be very helpful if you can flexibly change your hypothesis. At least I would find this to be rather efficient for the following reasons: Statistical theory requires that when you explore your data to come up with a hypothesis, then you must test this hypothesis against an independent data set. Daniel actually tells me that anything else violates all tenets of statistical test theory, but I wonder if statistics should be the most important thing here? Isn't it more economical to use a single data-set to derive your hypothesis and to test your theory? I think it is.


Punch and Judy:

You do a 50-50 trial often enough and you will sooner or later get a statistically significant result of 53. As Hawes notes, Bem started out hypothesizing "retroactive priming" with a negative photo that appears in a random spot (after the subject guesses on which side of a screen it will appear). This produced something almost at 50-50. The erotic side of the trial produced better results, so suddenly he can claim that there appears to be precog for erotic images.

Or really simple: Two people have a telekinetics contest. They both flip a coin ten times to see who gets more heads. One of them gets heads more often than the other. He is declared the telekinetic talent. The other one is a loser.

See?

I didn't read all of Bem's paper (61 pages) but skimming didn't catch where he compares his retroactive priming results against standard pre-priming experiments (i.e., where you are shown the image before making a judgment).

I'm not married to psi, but I'm also not averse to the possibility of psi phenomena. I can imagine that empirical vectors for how they operate may one day be observed (reception of tachyons, let's say), and feel certain I've had a couple of big precognitions myself. They were not conjured by me but came without trying (as has been described by some of you above) and involved events with a big impact on my life, not the triviality of what random picture is going to appear on the screen next. It was nothing that could be turned on or off. I suspect this describes the experiences the rest of you say you've had.

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Re: New studies show people can anticipate future events

Postby barracuda » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:49 pm

All of the moments of precognitive recognition which I have experienced in my life have revolved around with subjects of erotic desire, so this article sort of resonates with my personal experiences. And it makes sense -despite the clear statistical problems pointed out above - that these sorts of insights would be most heavily centered upon mindsets of desire. It might be interesting to have a similar test performed upon very hungry people to see if they can figure out where the next drumstick might pop up.
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Re: New studies show people can anticipate future events

Postby JackRiddler » Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:24 pm

barracuda wrote:All of the moments of precognitive recognition which I have experienced in my life have revolved around with subjects of erotic desire,


Same here.

so this article sort of resonates with my personal experiences. And it makes sense -despite the clear statistical problems pointed out above - that these sorts of insights would be most heavily centered upon mindsets of desire. It might be interesting to have a similar test performed upon very hungry people to see if they can figure out where the next drumstick might pop up.


Very sort of. It makes much more sense that the study is measuring statistical noise, and nowhere near a methodology for figuring out whether and how precognition works. Whatever it is, it's going to be too elusive for this chickenshit social psych approach to catch it.

PS - While I'm not sure you'll get your hungry people experiment past IRB, the Pentagon might be interested. They'd suppress publication, but once it was viable they'd let you have the commercial end.

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Re: New studies show people can anticipate future events

Postby Penguin » Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:47 am

JackRiddler wrote:
I'm not married to psi, but I'm also not averse to the possibility of psi phenomena. I can imagine that empirical vectors for how they operate may one day be observed (reception of tachyons, let's say), and feel certain I've had a couple of big precognitions myself. They were not conjured by me but came without trying (as has been described by some of you above) and involved events with a big impact on my life, not the triviality of what random picture is going to appear on the screen next. It was nothing that could be turned on or off. I suspect this describes the experiences the rest of you say you've had.



Exactly so, for me at least.
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Re: New studies show people can anticipate future events

Postby slomo » Sat Nov 13, 2010 1:52 pm

i've had a lot of weird psi phenomena in my lifetime, mostly in dreamtime, i.e. dreaming of personally-relevant specific events far in the future, about which I could have no possible "ordinary" knowledge at the time. Often these dreamtime narratives would unfold in very advanced "rebus" format: for example, several decades ago I had a vivid and disturbing dream about a number of events concerned with "red socks", before I ever thought about moving to New England, and (now in hindsight) the events depicted in the dream were clear references to the formative events during my time there.

It's going to be difficult to look for a physical mechanism for this phenomenon (e.g. "tachyons") unless our conception of physics is radically changed. Our modern Western cultural paradigm is to assume that matter and energy, as we understand them embedded in 4-dimensional spacetime, are primal to consciousness. In fact, it seems clear to me (and just about every other culture) that the reverse is true, Consciousness precedes the apparent material world. In that case, the topology of our neural connections somehow creates a resonance pattern with the fragments of a "deeper" Reality, which helps explain the qualitative experience of consciousness in this largely quantitative universe (Maya="she who measures"). But, therefore, time is an illusion, so that under the right alterations of neurochemistry, a resonance pattern can be established with some Reality fragment that is nonlocal in spacetime. Probably more intense emotions, and their associated hormonal secretions, help to create the right kind of neuro-topology. This seems to be one explanation for the necessity of creating intense emotion when one is trying to do "Magick".

At various points in my life I've tried to create crude mathematical models for a physics based on material space/time embedded in larger Consciousness, but I gave up because it's (1) too hard and (2) not useful. Instead, for the last few years I've attended a small meditation/NLP/active visualization class (with the same group of students and instructor) and I have found that it has opened up my consciousness to experience more psi-type events. I've tried to be as empirical about it as possible, but this sphere of experience is very subjective, almost by definition, and eludes objective analysis.
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Re: New studies show people can anticipate future events

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sat Nov 13, 2010 2:06 pm

JackRiddler wrote:
barracuda wrote:All of the moments of precognitive recognition which I have experienced in my life have revolved around with subjects of erotic desire,


Same here.


Same here. But those "subjects of erotic desire" have at least twice included communal work projects (theatre pieces) I was involved in, and (so to speak) in love with. For instance: once, and for no apparent reason, I had a very strong & unprecedented feeling of dread. I just knew something bad was going to happen. This feeling - this "knowledge" - was followed, seconds later, by a bullet through the window.

I think anything you're strongly libidinally involved with for a fair period of time will tend to heighten your perceptions in all kinds of ways. And there is a kind or degree of physical exhaustion that induces or permits a weird mental wakefulness, a kind of ego-depletion that's conducive to "opening up".
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Re: New studies show people can anticipate future events

Postby slomo » Sat Nov 13, 2010 2:11 pm

MacCruiskeen wrote:
JackRiddler wrote:
barracuda wrote:All of the moments of precognitive recognition which I have experienced in my life have revolved around with subjects of erotic desire,


Same here.


Same here. But those "subjects of erotic desire" have at least twice included communal work projects (theatre pieces) I was involved in, and (so to speak) in love with. For instance: once, and for no apparent reason, I had a very strong & unprecedented feeling of dread. I just knew something bad was going to happen. This feeling - this "knowledge" - was followed, seconds later, by a bullet through the window.

I think anything you're strongly libidinally involved with for a fair period of time will tend to heighten your perceptions in all kinds of ways. And there is a kind or degree of physical exhaustion that induces or permits a weird mental wakefulness, a kind of ego-depletion that's conducive to "opening up".

I never thought of it that way, but ego-depletion is an excellent model for the conditions that facilitate psi!

And, actually, ego-depletion also seems to enhance both erotic experiences and successful romantic relationships.
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