DiCaprio to star in JFK tale

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Re: DiCaprio to star in JFK tale

Postby Belligerent Savant » Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:21 pm

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Nordic » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:34 pm wrote:Rob Lowe as JFK. Is that a joke? It should be.

I guess this is whst happens when you let the likes of Rupert Mudoch buy a channel.



Clearly they were inspired by his performance in Behind the Candelabra... one look will surely have anyone thinking J F K...

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Re: DiCaprio Buys Waldron—In More Ways Than One

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:36 pm

MinM » Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:11 pm wrote:As most readers of the CTKA site know, and most serious people on this case realize, Hartmann and Waldron spent nearly two thousand pages discussing declassified documents that they either misread or misrepresented. Their two books are based upon contingency plans, which President Kennedy never took seriously, about an invasion of Cuba. And these plans are clearly marked as such. Further, in their first book, Ultimate Sacrifice, their alleged coup plotter, the man who would lead the revolt against Fidel Castro, was clearly implied as being Che Guevara. Which was ridiculous on its face. Eventually, they switched to Juan Almeida. But they were humiliated once again when Malcolm Blunt and Ed Sherry discovered NSA intercepts revealing that Almeida was on his way to Africa at the time of the coup! This literally took the heart out of their fantastic C-Day plot. As did the fact that it was later revealed that no one in any high position in the military or intelligence community knew of the coming invasion—which was to be by flotillas of Cuban exiles supplemented by both the CIA and the Pentagon. National Security Adviser McGeorge Bundy did not know. Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara did not know. And CIA Director of Plans Richard Helms did not know.

So here you had a US sponsored coup in Cuba which no one in the American military–intelligence community knew of, and apparently neither did the designated coup leader, who was flying across the Atlantic on his way to a different continent at the time.


I always wondered how Hartmann and Waldron came up with this concept of the top Cuban leaders (Guevara, then Almeida) secretly working against Castro. But on page 296 of The Man Who Knew Too Much by Dick Russell, this paragraph stood out as a possible explanation:

"Under Scott, the Mexico branch of the CIA was not afraid to play hard ball. A recently declassified document reveals that, in 1963, to foment dissension, Scott's agents planted phony documents on a Cuban government official that indicated Castro's vice minister of defense was in fact a CIA operative. When Cuban security discovered those documents, four completely innocent people were convicted of treason and thrown into a Cuban jail for years."


So Hartmann's just playing the same game Winston Scott did 50 years ago.
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Re: DiCaprio to star in JFK tale

Postby KeenInsight » Wed Jul 03, 2013 1:08 am

Meh, interesting angle for a movie, but I still don't buy the 'Mafia' did it conspiracy. No way can the Mafia have any power to have complete control of what did go into the Warren Commission or even the inconsistency of JFK's autopsy. Did the Mafia have the power to kill key witnesses, some of them intelligence, or place pristine bullets in hospitals full of generals and military guard?

The Mafia played their part as useful pawns, if anything, because when you look real deep into that whole mess and every subsequent assassination, it all stinks of elite corrupted power and clique intelligence groups. To set that all up, people had to have intimate knowledge of the inner-workings of it all and how to play groups against each other.

I think of it this way, famous Mafia people had control of cities. And what do Corporations or Banksters have control of? Entire Nations and entire political apparatus that use military as their muscle. The 'Mafia' couldn't even dream of having the ability like the CIA to assassinate foreign leaders and topple nations.
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