War on the Internet -- What's the RI game-plan?

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Re: War on the Internet -- What's the RI game-plan?

Postby eyeno » Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:11 am

"Idea: We flimflam PTB TIA countersubversive search tools by writing the exact opposite of what we really mean. Ultimate nuance. Green secretly signals sarcasm, passing PTB E_H_L_N sniffer smell test. winkwink"

I could read that no problem. I still have to flip my mind backwards to talk to normal people and sometimes it becomes effort. These days every time someone speaks it is dichotomy city in my head. The "Royal We" has screwed up my inner data base something fierce.
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Re: War on the Internet -- What's the RI game-plan?

Postby eyeno » Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:17 am

"If the internet stopped forever, I'd still be annoyed at the way things are, but I'd be caught up on my chores."

Now I know who has been peeking in my window. It is you.
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Postby DoYouEverWonder » Thu Dec 09, 2010 7:14 am

eyeno wrote:Can you actually imagine a job interview where the guy across the table says "I see you read the Guardian article about x two years ago, can you explain that?

Would that be, before or after you take your piss test?
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Postby justdrew » Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:43 am

eyeno wrote:Can you actually imagine a job interview where the guy across the table says "I see you read the Guardian article about x two years ago, can you explain that?


no subs in this version, but you'll get the gist...
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Postby Luther Blissett » Thu Dec 09, 2010 12:39 pm

I'm willing to donate any use of my design (web, print, etc) skills as necessary.
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Re: War on the Internet -- What's the RI game-plan?

Postby Elvis » Thu Dec 09, 2010 1:24 pm

But seriously, folks...I don't at all mean to dismiss the questions JR raises. If the ability to freely "publish" and gather online was lost, a network of sorts could still exist among "real-life" connections made here. If electronic censorship became that severe, in-person salons might be the only way to replace Internet groups. While e-mail, I think, is here to stay, it could get dicey for much dissent if things got that bad.
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Postby beeline » Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:12 pm

Elvis wrote:If the ability to freely "publish" and gather online was lost, a network of sorts could still exist among "real-life" connections made here.


Indeed, and I am glad to know personally Luther, AD and bks. I look forward to meeting others in the future.
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Re: War on the Internet -- What's the RI game-plan?

Postby Plutonia » Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:59 pm

I posted this yesterday somewhere around here but for those who missed it - panel of cutting-edge IT pros at LeWeb conference response to Wikileaks:

tl;dw: Internets robust overall; attempts to shut-down wikileaks useful for showing us where 'net neutrality is jeopardized and where we need to implement counter-measures.

video here
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Re: War on the Internet -- What's the RI game-plan?

Postby anothershamus » Fri Dec 10, 2010 1:33 pm

These are all from the front page of http://www.rawstory.com/ as of 9:30 pacific daylight time.

'THIS IS TRULY' A 'CYBER WAR'

Teen arrested in 'Operation Payback' was running a chat room

Corp. whistleblower: Private sector attacks on WikiLeaks 'very scary'

WikiLeaks defectors launching OpenLeak

US military bans computer disks

Conservative writer defends WikiLeaks

Operation Payback may target US Senate

Attack fears prompt Amazon share plunge

Cyber war breaks out over WikiLeaks


This could turn into a real big test of the internet and computer knowledge. All those IT geeks in the basements of the Corp/Gov......who's side will they be on? We should all meet at the corner of 3rd and Main if the interwebs get broken. Or better yet list a meeting place in the back of 26OO Magazine.

On edit: Then I go over to boingboing.net and find this:

2600 Magazine condemns DDoS attacks against Wikileaks censors

Cory Doctorow at 3:46 AM Fri


permalink here: http://www.boingboing.net/2010/12/10/2600-magazine-condem.html

And here is some more stuff from the Nation:
For the past 13 days or so, Greg Mitchell at the Nation has been live-blogging the Wikileaks saga,
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/media-fix
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Postby stefano » Fri Dec 10, 2010 2:01 pm

anothershamus wrote:Teen arrested in 'Operation Payback' was running a chat room
From that link:

Dutch teen arrested in ‘Operation Payback’ was running chat room

A Dutch teenager arrested Thursday morning for participating in cyber attacks against the websites of companies who dropped their support of WikiLeaks could face up to six years in prison if convicted, according to a spokesman for the Netherlands' prosecution service.

The 16-year-old has a confessed to participating in a wide-spread cyber attack dubbed "Operation Payback" on MasterCard, Visa and PayPal, in retaliation for the companies' withdrawal of services to WikiLeaks.

If convicted, he could be sentenced to between four and six years in prison, Wim de Bruin, a spokesman for the Dutch prosecution service, told Telegraph.
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Re: War on the Internet -- What's the RI game-plan?

Postby Twyla LaSarc » Fri Dec 10, 2010 3:12 pm

We could investigate usenet groups... or just go to circulated mimeographs like they did in old Russia. :wink
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Re: War on the Internet -- What's the RI game-plan?

Postby justdrew » Fri Dec 10, 2010 3:19 pm

Twyla LaSarc wrote:We could investigate usenet groups... or just go to circulated mimeographs like they did in old Russia. :wink


or pass notes in the chow line at the detention center.
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Postby Project Willow » Fri Dec 10, 2010 3:22 pm

I nominate Annie to come up with the identifying hand signal.
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Re: War on the Internet -- What's the RI game-plan?

Postby JackRiddler » Fri Dec 10, 2010 3:24 pm

anothershamus wrote:Dutch teen arrested in ‘Operation Payback’ was running chat room

A Dutch teenager arrested Thursday morning for participating in cyber attacks against the websites of companies who dropped their support of WikiLeaks could face up to six years in prison if convicted, according to a spokesman for the Netherlands' prosecution service.

The 16-year-old has a confessed to participating in a wide-spread cyber attack dubbed "Operation Payback" on MasterCard, Visa and PayPal, in retaliation for the companies' withdrawal of services to WikiLeaks.


Unlucky to get caught, but probably lucky not to be caught in the US of A.

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Re: War on the Internet -- What's the RI game-plan?

Postby Simulist » Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:02 pm

That 16-year-old and the 15-year-old featured elsewhere on this forum both give me hope that the future may be much different than the present.
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