Area 51: Uncensored History author on NPR Fresh Air

[elfismiles]

Thanks for posting about this Nash. I was made aware of this latest take late last week and immediately notified Nick Redfern whose Roswell book BODY SNATCHERS IN THE DESERT put forth nearly the same hypothesis ... only in his version it was the US military continuing the work of the Japanese Unit-731 horrorshow combined with Horton bros aerotech.

Of course the earliest popular description of this type of scenario was Bernard Newman's FLYING SAUCER (Published in Britain in June 1948).



Recently republished...



Here is my interview with Nick about his 2005 book BODY SNATCHERS IN THE DESERT:



PreCognitive Dissonance 6/21/07 part 2
http://precognitivedissonance.com/media/PCD070621b.mp3
http://precognitivedissonance.podomatic ... 9_28-07_00

And my past coverage of the issue citing John Keel's original suggestion of Fugo balloons and POPULAR MECHANICS take on portions of this angle (Horton brothers) circa 1994-1997:

ANOMALY ARCHIVES eNEWS - July 2005 - " 'Realing' from Roswell"
Roswell Bombshell? Nick Redfern's Ufological Expose!

...

eNEWS FEATURE: ROSWELL <never> AGAIN
http://www.anomalyarchives.org/oldenews ... ws0507.htm

And of course past RigInt threads on the subject:

Interesting interview with Nick Redfern
viewtopic.php?f=29&t=5382

Red White and Gray, Part 2
http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/ ... 8&start=15

I am JFK's love child, B.C. man says
http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/ ... =8&t=16111

UFO event in Norway
http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/ ... 44#p304344


Here are more links on this new book:

Roswell, Stalin & MJ12: A Thickening Plot
http://desertdarkness.blogspot.com/2011 ... -plot.html

New Book: Roswell Was Secret Experiment
http://desertdarkness.blogspot.com/2011 ... iment.html

A Military Post's Secrets: Espionage, Not Aliens‎
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/16/books ... eview.html

It wasn't aliens, it was Nazis, Communists and mutants: New book reveals the 'real' story behind the Roswell landing
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... swell.html

Roswell 'was Soviet plot to create US panic'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... panic.html

The Truth About Area 51 Revealed in Area 51 by Annie Jacobsen‎
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and- ... -jacobsen/

Was Area 51 a conspiracy between Stalin and Joseph Mengele?‎http://io9.com/5802211/was-area-51-was-a-conspiracy-between-stalin-and-joseph-mengele

Roswell 'was plane full of alienlike children sent by Stalin'
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-20062869-71.html

Stalin, Mengele, join cast as Roswell plot thickens
http://www.smh.com.au/world/stalin-meng ... 1endc.html

[elfismiles]

Oh, and this was also the military's take on the object/entities discovered in the film...

Quatermass & the Pit, aka Five Million Years to Earth!

[IanEye]

Frank Zappa hanging out with Annie Jacobsen in 1991

If you buy into the idea that the vibrational rates translate into matter; and then if you understand the concept of vibrational rates above perception and below perception combining to create a reality, that opens up the door to some pretty science fiction possibilities.

If you can create an audible reality by a sine wave above the range of what your ear can hear and another one from below, and you put them together and suddenly it creates something that your ear can detect:
Is it not possible that solid matter of an unknown origin could manifest periodically because of the frequencies of some unknown nature above and below which, for short duration, manifest solid objects?

It could explain a lot of strange things that people see. - Frank Zappa

[Luther Blissett]

Whoops, cuda beat me to it. Read the threads, blissett!

This story seriously makes me die a little bit inside. And it was actually brought to me by my super-skeptical, play-it-safe PC punk friend, which means it's gone way mainstream.

[elfismiles]

Since the crux her Roswell take is the WoW broadcast...

TELEVISION AND THE HIVE MIND
by Mack White
http://www.mackwhite.com/tv.html

[IanEye]

love the new avatar, elfis!

[elfismiles]

Oh! Okay ... she says the US continued the human experimentation after the crash - which throws it right back to Redfern's thesis in BODY SNATCHERS.

[elfismiles]

love the new avatar, elfis!

Thanks! Thot that pic was pretty cool.

[semiconscious]

Frank Zappa hanging out with Annie Jacobsen in 1991

dweezil zappa...

[The Consul]

That we have nothing to worry about. We know how to handle this stuff now.
Don't worry.
Be Happy.

[Spiro C. Thiery]

Well, there's the Nazis having built flying saucers meme. And I recall something about one of the Soviet leaders requesting an ape-human hybrid, but that the experiments had proven unsuccessful. Then, of course, there's the Soviets launching a monkey into orbit, and the report from some Roswellian or another, claiming that the "aliens" that were witnessed at the crash-scene were, in fact, charred, hairless primates.

[zuestorz]

The proposition advanced in this book by Ms Jacobsen, surely rates as one of the most ludicrous and unbelievable pieces of disinformation ever propounded about Roswell. Unmitigated, barf-worthy garbage lamely masquerading as history.

[elfismiles]

The proposition advanced in this book by Ms Jacobsen, surely rates as one of the most ludicrous and unbelievable pieces of disinformation ever propounded about Roswell. Unmitigated, barf-worthy garbage lamely masquerading as history.

Yeah, the Crashed ET Saucer Myth is so much more believable and verified as true.

I'm not saying I accept the premise in her book, but it's an interesting new wrinkle that dovetails with Redfern's premise. They both seem worthy of further study and attempts at verification.

[Nordic]

So how did the Soviets fly that thing into the U.S.? Up through Mexico? How was it not seen/detected? Maybe they captured Captain America during WWII and made him throw it like a giant frisbee from the deck of an invisible submarine? Yeah, that's it ....

[82_28]

So are you positing, Nordic, that this invisible submarine had surfaced when he threw it or was it submerged? This would indicate the threshold of Captain America's strength, which has long been unknown. Interesting theory.