11 occult secrets now in the open

[eyeno]

Reminds me of this approach: http://wanttoknow.info/

I'm sympathetic to criticism of Zionism but this was outright Holocaust revision at least, am I wrong? This is basically a directory of poison pills, from Fritz to Dulce to Gagaluminati. Always down from Ancient Astronaut Theory material but like someone recently said...that's not gonna feed our kids. Or give them a place to live. Or something like that.

I'm rambling but I'll say this: if this was posted on my forum I would have deleted it.

One bad apple don't spoil the whole barrel in my opinion but I am seriously thinking about deleting the OP now. Why we can't have a critical discussion of the rest alludes me but so be it.

[eyeno]

But if i delete the OP my purpose of LEARNING is defeated. So it goes the whole purpose of this forum is defeated right? I'm here to learn not to fight. There are 10 other premises here we can discuss. This was an occult salad and not an attack on any one ethnic group. Christians are also attacked in this article. So whats the rub? Can't we have an adult discussion without this bullshit?

[Nordic]

Well IMO the whole thing is suspect if they're spouting this sort of thing. It's like when somebody lies to you, how do you trust them? Right?

I don't care if you delete it or not, but when I see they're claiming that sort of thing, without any evidence, I lose interest in what they have to say about other things. Life is short, I don't want to waste my time.

[eyeno]

Well IMO the whole thing is suspect if they're spouting this sort of thing. It's like when somebody lies to you, how do you trust them? Right?

I don't care if you delete it or not, but when I see they're claiming that sort of thing, without any evidence, I lose interest in what they have to say about other things. Life is short, I don't want to waste my time.

I learn by picking truthful bits of info from bullshit. How do you learn? Nothing I read is 100% factual.

[Wombaticus Rex]

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Earth is apparently a proving ground. It's not static for any level of existence, never mind the human experience. We seem to be set here to make choices, learn lessons and come to realizations that appear to have a collective impact on existence.

Interpreting the world around us, each other, our roots, how to deal with the present, and sculpting our future seems to be our pastime. It's a world of puzzles needing solutions, needs to be met, hungers to be filled, answers to be gotten.

Or is it.

Like, what? This was painfully bad/dumb writing period. Not a bad apple though. These are them:

Bold souls like Henry Makow, Michael Tsarion, Vigilant Citizen,

3-fer.

Powerhouse information disseminaters like Jeff Rense, Mike Rivero and sites like Project Camelot and so many others have tirelessly worked for years getting an honest and truthful perspective out

*Nosebleed*

The dimensional aspect of the shift is huge. Many esoteric groups and individuals believe we are entering a literal vibrational shift over this next period of time. Not necessarily at any one specific time, but over a period of time where the earth passes through a phenomenon called the galactic alignment while also experiencing a bombardment from the photon belt and extreme solar activity and other prophetic fulfillments.

Things are definitely changing, that we know. A golden age is predicted by the more esoterically inclined, with vibrational changes altering our very being. Let's just hope so. But at the least, don't discount it.

Any way you look at it, we're in for changes.

TL;DR version: Everything is going to shift dimensionally, dimension is syonymous with vibration, we can't say when, or how, but we know it's happening, or at least let's hope so.

That's an occult secret? This is pop conspiracy gibberish.

I mean the dark stuff, the Balmoral Castle-type child sacrifices by European royalty and visiting elites; the invocation of Luciferian agents via dark magick rituals; the secret child abuse rings surrounding religious figures, power brokers and corporo-political leadership.

Don't believe it? Here's my point. You've heard about it, haven't you? And like the questions surrounding 9/11, it has you wondering.

That's the message. And it's out.

No snark: that's a really great passage of persuasive copywriting -- a good clean pattern. I have added it to the "swipe file" I keep to make the Theft part of Art easier on paid gigs. But the pattern is pure Milton, paint the picture then tell them exactly how they feel about it, too.

#4. Freemasonry and the Corporate Minions

Down with this: Lloyd's of London as Masonic Institution
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=30165

There you will find several gems. Amongst them: 9/11 questions, the truth behind the international banking cartel, and holocaust deniers and anti-semitism.

Quite a broad brush, I can appreciate the segmentation at work here. Especially like the re-framing of "international banking cartel" as conspiracy theory -- rather than abundantly documented, fully operational, openly controlling reality.

Also appreciate the 9/11 = holocaust denial link right in the middle of this article -- these fingerprints aren't subtle.

The Zeitgeist videos had a lot to do with this wake up. Of course they're based on the years of research of Jordan Maxwell they give no credit to,

Bad apples again

First, simple conditioning.

We know the media are programming us with propaganda continually.

Agreed.

Much of this is predictive programming, so that when an expected future arrives, the populace shares a resigned sigh of relief, even if it's bad news. This is creepy to the core.

This is Collins Brothers material, right? http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/Sci.htm

I find that very interesting as reality tunnels go, nicely documented. It's also the realm of Dave McGowan and Michael Hoffman III, right?

Google Fritz Springmeyer and other mind control research sites

Bad Apples, packed with white supremacy explosives. Great name to drop. There's some very decent, documented, interesting, straightforward and historical "mind control research sites" and again, this is a deliberate "hook" to shoehorn these issues into proximity.

Hope that helps. I have no problem with leaving the article up in this context, eyeno is obviously not pushing an agenda here.

[Nordic]

Well IMO the whole thing is suspect if they're spouting this sort of thing. It's like when somebody lies to you, how do you trust them? Right?

I don't care if you delete it or not, but when I see they're claiming that sort of thing, without any evidence, I lose interest in what they have to say about other things. Life is short, I don't want to waste my time.

I learn by picking truth from bullshit. How do you learn?

I learn by NOT wasting my time going to conspira-porn sites like Rense, Prisonplanet, Alex Jones, or Wayne Madsen.

You don't HAVE to sift through the bullshit to find the kernels of truth. There are better ways that are more efficient. If a place looks like it might be one of THOSE places, just ignore it and go elsewhere.

It's pretty easy if you come here a lot, an awful lot of good stuff is sifted through this place. It's one of the reasons I come here every day.

You don't see any "your cell phone can hard-boil an egg!!!!" kind of crap here.

[tazmic]

Shame - he missed out The Externalization of the Hierarchy...

[eyeno]

But the pattern is pure Milton, paint the picture then tell them exactly how they feel about it, too.

yeppers.

[eyeno]

Thanx wombat. You have given me several hours of reading to do which is what I hoped for...

[gnosticheresy_2]

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I am not declaring that I agree with every premise laid out here. I am simply offering this article for discussion to see what pops out of it.

It's ok nobody thinks you do. It's good to put this sort of thing up for comment, certainly not something I'd delete.

However, I got bored reading the intro so I condensed it down to the point I think the author was trying to make, but with less words!

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/897/483/11_Occult_Secrets_Now_In_the_Open.html

Any way you look at it, we're in for changes.

I think that's a sentiment we can all get behind.

[8bitagent]

Not if you're informed and pay attention. I'm not just talking about the Bilderbergers, CFR, Bohemian Club and the array of semi-public committees and think tanks you deliberately see in the news.

I mean the dark stuff, the Balmoral Castle-type child sacrifices by European royalty and visiting elites; the invocation of Luciferian agents via dark magick rituals; the secret child abuse rings surrounding religious figures, power brokers and corporo-political leadership.

Don't believe it? Here's my point. You've heard about it, haven't you? And like the questions surrounding 9/11, it has you wondering.

I always found it curious that so many conspiracy writers and radio people were putting so much attention on skull n bones, bohemian grove(which i wouldnt even consider 'secret' since anyone can work there or cover it), etc...when you have really dark black lodge stuff in Europe tied to the deep state.

[wordspeak2]

That is the first time I have ever in my life heard the "theory" that the Holocaust was really a plot to garner Jewish sympathy and thusly create the state of Israel. I had never imagined that anyone could stoop that low in historical revisionism. Kind of discredits the rest of the piece, eyeno, to put it extremely mildly.

[Perelandra]

A random comment at the "website" of the "author" that made my day.
But now I really do want to know, what the hell is "Junette"?

http://www.naturalmedicine.com/blogs/wondering/about/

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[8bitagent]

However, that the Nazi "holocaust" was actually deliberately staged to set up the formation of Israel is so far beyond most people's possibility of belief it's almost psychotic in nature. For any group of people to be that evil, that manipulating, as to sacrifice millions of lives while financing both sides of wars in order to establish a personalized plan of world domination is beyond a natural human's capability of understanding.

And this is how the plan advances. Well meaning, well intentioned humanity cannot conceive of such evil. Hence, the evil perpetrators' success. All they have to do is lie, cover-up, justify and bully, and they get their way.

Uh, wtf?

I'll believe Hitler and the Nazis were puppets of esoteric dark forces before I buy any of the holocaust revisionist stuff. If by staged, they mean the murder of millions of people was helped by wallstreet, corporations and a hidden agenda with a possible eye toward world government in the future...i could buy that. Hell, maybe there were some Nazi funders who like many right wing fundies, saw the formation of Israel necessary in their esoteric end time bullshit.

[eyeno]

That is the first time I have ever in my life heard the "theory" that the Holocaust was really a plot to garner Jewish sympathy and thusly create the state of Israel. I had never imagined that anyone could stoop that low in historical revisionism. Kind of discredits the rest of the piece, eyeno, to put it extremely mildly.

I'm like a chicken with no standard diet. I'll pull bits of truth out of bullshit all day long. We are continually fed a diet of pure bullshit mixed with a few bits of truth so that we will eat the whole bag of bullshit. Its the way they feed us. I knew there was bullshit in this article, which is why I threw it into the griss mill. I'll let the shit fall out and keep the rest. I respect the minds here at RI as a griss mill, so I threw this into the mill so that I could catch the golden nuggets that fall out from the grinding process...