The World has spent 200,000 years playing Angry Birds

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Re: The World has spent 200,000 years playing Angry Birds

Postby hanshan » Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:59 pm

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don't know angry birds, etc; although this came to mind:


Homo Ludens (book)


Homo Ludens or "Man the Player" (alternatively, "Playing Man") is a book written in 1938 by Dutch historian, cultural theorist and professor Johan Huizinga. It discusses the importance of the play element of culture and society. Huizinga uses the term "Play Theory" within the book to define the conceptual space in which play occurs. Huizinga suggests that play is primary to and a necessary (though not sufficient) condition of the generation of culture.


[Huizinga makes it clear in the foreword of his book that he means the play element of culture, and not the play element in culture. He writes that he titled the initial lecture the book is based on "The Play Element of Culture". This title was repeatedly corrected to "in" Culture, a revision he objected to. Huizinga explains:

"...it was not my object to define the place of play among all other manifestations of culture, but rather to ascertain how far culture itself bears the character of play." (Foreword, unnumbered page)

The uncredited English[1] of the Beacon Press version modified the subtitle of the book to "A Study of the Play-Element In Culture", contradicting Huizinga's stated intention. The translator explains in a footnote in the Foreword, "Logically, of course, Huizinga is correct; but as English prepositions are not governed by logic I have retained the more euphonious ablative in this sub-title." Thus, the translator intends no change in meaning, but essentially thought "in culture" sounded better than "of culture".

The version in print and widely available in English is a translation and synthesis of the original Dutch and the first English translation (done by Huizinga himself), because "a comparison of the two texts shows a number of discrepancies and a marked difference in style" (Translators Note, unnumbered page).[2][3]


I. Nature and significance of play as a cultural phenomenon

“Play is older than culture, for culture, however inadequately defined, always presupposes human society, and animals have not waited for man to teach them their playing.”[4]


Huizinga begins by making it clear that animals played first.


One of the most significant (human and cultural) aspects of play is that it is fun.[5] This fun aspect is celebrated by Brian Sutton-Smith in his book The Ambiguity of Play:

“Prime credit in play-theory terms for denying the puritanical and work contentions about play in modern times must go to Huizinga who [...] argues that play is a most fundamental human function and has permeated all cultures from the beginning.”[6]
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Characteristics of play

To set the scene of the play that he will unfold gradually, Huizinga identifies 5 characteristics that play must have:

Play is free, is in fact freedom.[7]
Play is not “ordinary” or “real” life.[7]
Play is distinct from “ordinary” life both as to locality and duration.[8]
Play creates order, is order. Play demands order absolute and supreme.[9]
Play is connected with no material interest, and no profit can be gained from it.[10]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_Ludens_(book)


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Re: The World has spent 200,000 years playing Angry Birds

Postby Searcher08 » Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:00 pm

Simulist wrote:
Brekin wrote:I think it was Plato who said the best society would be one in which we were perpetually involved in playing games…

Whoever said that, I'm all for it — just so long as it's our own games we're choosing to play, and not someone else's we're coerced into playing.



The Master Game
Seek, above all, for a game worth playing. Such is the advice of the oracle to modern man. Having found the game, play it with intensity — play as if your life and sanity depend on it. (They do depend on it.) Follow the example of the French existentialists and flourish a banner bearing the word “engagement.” Though nothing means anything and all roads are marked “NO EXIT,” yet move as if your movements had some purpose. If life does not seem to offer a game worth playing, then invent one. For it must be clear, even to the most clouded intelligence, that any game is better than no game.
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Re: The World has spent 200,000 years playing Angry Birds

Postby hanshan » Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:06 pm

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Searcher08 wrote:
Simulist wrote:
Brekin wrote:I think it was Plato who said the best society would be one in which we were perpetually involved in playing games…

Whoever said that, I'm all for it — just so long as it's our own games we're choosing to play, and not someone else's we're coerced into playing.



The Master Game
Seek, above all, for a game worth playing. Such is the advice of the oracle to modern man. Having found the game, play it with intensity — play as if your life and sanity depend on it. (They do depend on it.) Follow the example of the French existentialists and flourish a banner bearing the word “engagement.” Though nothing means anything and all roads are marked “NO EXIT,” yet move as if your movements had some purpose. If life does not seem to offer a game worth playing, then invent one. For it must be clear, even to the most clouded intelligence, that any game is better than no game.
Robert S. deRopp

http://www.livereal.com/spiritual_arena ... r_game.htm



For me there is only the traveling on the paths that have heart, on any path that may have heart. There I travel, and the only worthwhile challenge for me is to traverse its full length. And there I travel—looking, looking, breathlessly.




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Re: The World has spent 200,000 years playing Angry Birds

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:19 pm

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Rachel Carson publishes 'Silent Spring' about DDT killing off all...the birds.
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Re: The World has spent 200,000 years playing Angry Birds

Postby Gnomad » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:44 am

Hugh, you do know it is a finnish game?
From a small local game house, whose first hit this game was? And that we had quite our own backlash against poison spraying forests back in the late 60s when it was done for the first time here and in Sweden, and that DDT and other forest insecticide spraying has long been banned here?

Are you purporting some foreign influence on these local game developers, to cover for a decades old book that is mentioned in every public school to kids around the age 15 at the latest, in history classes?
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Re: The World has spent 200,000 years playing Angry Birds

Postby Hammer of Los » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:42 am

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I've always been all for the ludic revolution.

Working for a living sucks. I pretty much avoid it.

I like to be my own boss and play all day long.

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Re: The World has spent 200,000 years playing Angry Birds

Postby brekin » Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:07 am

hanshan wrote:

The Master Game
Seek, above all, for a game worth playing. Such is the advice of the oracle to modern man. Having found the game, play it with intensity — play as if your life and sanity depend on it. (They do depend on it.) Follow the example of the French existentialists and flourish a banner bearing the word “engagement.” Though nothing means anything and all roads are marked “NO EXIT,” yet move as if your movements had some purpose. If life does not seem to offer a game worth playing, then invent one. For it must be clear, even to the most clouded intelligence, that any game is better than no game.
Robert S. deRopp


Agreed. I just don't think that this:

The Glass Bead Game takes place at an unspecified date, centuries into the future. Hesse suggested that he imagined the book's narrator writing around the start of the 25th century.[2] The setting is a fictional province of central Europe called Castalia, reserved by political decision for the life of the mind; technology and economic life are kept to a strict minimum. Castalia is home to an austere order of intellectuals with a twofold mission: to run boarding schools for boys, and to nurture and play the Glass Bead Game, whose exact nature remains elusive and whose devotees occupy a special school within Castalia known as Waldzell. The rules of the game are only alluded to, and are so sophisticated that they are not easy to imagine. Playing the game well requires years of hard study of music, mathematics, and cultural history. Essentially the game is an abstract synthesis of all arts and sciences. It proceeds by players making deep connections between seemingly unrelated topics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Glass_Bead_Game


Has a level dealing with this:

In the game, players use a slingshot to launch birds at pigs stationed on or within various structures, with the intent of destroying all the pigs on the playfield. As players advance through the game, new birds appear, some with special abilities that can be activated by the player.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angry_birds
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Re: The World has spent 200,000 years playing Angry Birds

Postby Searcher08 » Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:40 pm

brekin wrote:hanshan wrote:

The Master Game
Seek, above all, for a game worth playing. Such is the advice of the oracle to modern man. Having found the game, play it with intensity — play as if your life and sanity depend on it. (They do depend on it.) Follow the example of the French existentialists and flourish a banner bearing the word “engagement.” Though nothing means anything and all roads are marked “NO EXIT,” yet move as if your movements had some purpose. If life does not seem to offer a game worth playing, then invent one. For it must be clear, even to the most clouded intelligence, that any game is better than no game.
Robert S. deRopp


Agreed. I just don't think that this:

The Glass Bead Game takes place at an unspecified date, centuries into the future. Hesse suggested that he imagined the book's narrator writing around the start of the 25th century.[2] The setting is a fictional province of central Europe called Castalia, reserved by political decision for the life of the mind; technology and economic life are kept to a strict minimum. Castalia is home to an austere order of intellectuals with a twofold mission: to run boarding schools for boys, and to nurture and play the Glass Bead Game, whose exact nature remains elusive and whose devotees occupy a special school within Castalia known as Waldzell. The rules of the game are only alluded to, and are so sophisticated that they are not easy to imagine. Playing the game well requires years of hard study of music, mathematics, and cultural history. Essentially the game is an abstract synthesis of all arts and sciences. It proceeds by players making deep connections between seemingly unrelated topics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Glass_Bead_Game


Has a level dealing with this:

In the game, players use a slingshot to launch birds at pigs stationed on or within various structures, with the intent of destroying all the pigs on the playfield. As players advance through the game, new birds appear, some with special abilities that can be activated by the player.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angry_birds


This is a chaotic animation to a track from 'Castalia' by Mark Isham



Maybe the meeting point of the two worlds is alluded to by Hesse in this poem, from The Glass Bead Game -

But Secretly We Thirst…

Graceful as dancer’s arabesque and bow,

Our lives appear serene and without stress,

A gentle dance around pure nothingness

To which we sacrifice the here and now.

Our dreams are lovely and our game is bright,

So finely tuned, with many artful turns,

But deep beneath the tranquil surface burns

Longing for blood, barbarity, and night.

Freely our life revolves, and every breath

Is free as air; we live so playfully,

But secretly we crave reality:

Begetting, birth, and suffering, and death.




There is a branch of Pure Maths called category theory, which has always resonated with him as being the nearest thing to the GBG so far. Some folks (affectionately) call it Abstract Nonsense
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Re: The World has spent 200,000 years playing Angry Birds

Postby elephant » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:03 pm

Most of these responses surprise me a little. Of course it's cool to play, to relax, to have fun. But aren't people on the board constantly complaining about the widespread passivity and alienation of the culture? That as governments lie, ecosystems die, and humans around the planet suffer, we're transfixed by our electronic diversions and can't be bothered with any of it?

Is it really so awful that we occasionally consider and reconsider our most hollow habits?
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Re: The World has spent 200,000 years playing Angry Birds

Postby No_Baseline » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:13 pm

Most of these responses surprise me a little. Of course it's cool to play, to relax, to have fun. But aren't people on the board constantly complaining about the widespread passivity and alienation of the culture? That as governments lie, ecosystems die, and humans around the planet suffer, we're transfixed by our electronic diversions and can't be bothered with any of it?

Is it really so awful that we occasionally consider and reconsider our most hollow habits?


No, more of us should, and more often. Well said.

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Re: The World has spent 200,000 years playing Angry Birds

Postby barracuda » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:33 pm

It is true that the activity of playing the Angry Birds game is a emblematic of the complete waste of human potential inherent in all handheld gaming devices, and represents a massive degradation of civilisation generally. Especially since I've never been able to get past the second level. Ever. I mean, how the fuck do you get that one large pig inside the wooden and glass structure??

However, the ancient and worthy sport of slinging flustered birds at sanguine domestic swine goes back millenia. Examples may be found throughout history of this passtime, such as this woodcut from the Olaus Magnus - History of the Nordic Peoples (ca. 1555):

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In Dynastic Egypt, it was tradition to gently and fondly kiss the pigs before sending them into the game to be bruised and abused by the Nile cranes:

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And if birds could not be procured for this sport of Pharoh, oftimes royal monkeys would be given sticks and called upon to simply beat the unfortunate animals:

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The earliest reference to the bird/pig game, though, is this fragment found in the pre-Sumerian substratum of the area formerly known as Mesopotamia showing the slingshot in use to fling the bird, or essuru, upon the pig, or sahu:

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This game was called "Smiter", and here you can see that though the medium of play has changed considerably as technology has advanced, the idea remains the same and the tradition of swineward bird-hurling would seem to be a fundamental, if misunderstood, activity throughout history.
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Re: The World has spent 200,000 years playing Angry Birds

Postby brekin » Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:12 pm

Searcher08 wrote:

Maybe the meeting point of the two worlds is alluded to by Hesse in this poem, from The Glass Bead Game -


Thanks for posting that! I of course couldn't
resist using it for my own propagandizing purposes:


But Secretly We Thirst…
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Graceful as dancer’s arabesque and bow,
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Our lives appear serene and without stress,
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A gentle dance around pure nothingness
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To which we sacrifice the here and now.
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Our dreams are lovely and our game is bright,
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So finely tuned, with many artful turns,
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But deep beneath the tranquil surface burns
Image
Longing for blood, barbarity, and night.
Image
Freely our life revolves, and every breath
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Is free as air; we live so playfully,
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But secretly we crave reality:
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Begetting,
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birth,
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and suffering,
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and death.
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Re: The World has spent 200,000 years playing Angry Birds

Postby Gnomad » Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:05 pm

elephant wrote:Most of these responses surprise me a little. Of course it's cool to play, to relax, to have fun. But aren't people on the board constantly complaining about the widespread passivity and alienation of the culture? That as governments lie, ecosystems die, and humans around the planet suffer, we're transfixed by our electronic diversions and can't be bothered with any of it?

Is it really so awful that we occasionally consider and reconsider our most hollow habits?


No, that is absolutely right.

We should.
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Re: The World has spent 200,000 years playing Angry Birds

Postby gnosticheresy_2 » Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:31 pm

elephant wrote:Most of these responses surprise me a little. Of course it's cool to play, to relax, to have fun. But aren't people on the board constantly complaining about the widespread passivity and alienation of the culture? That as governments lie, ecosystems die, and humans around the planet suffer, we're transfixed by our electronic diversions and can't be bothered with any of it?

Is it really so awful that we occasionally consider and reconsider our most hollow habits?


No, no it's not. But the article cited in the OP wasn't saying that, it was saying this:

Just imagine what we could have accomplished if that time was spent productively.


Which was apparently provoked by an encounter at:

a gala event held at the Finnish Presidential Palace


Who's "we"? Well speaking just for myself, the few hours I spent completing Angry Birds may well have been spent playing another game, reading, watching tv or picking fluff out of my navel :thumbsup
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Re: The World has spent 200,000 years playing Angry Birds

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:57 pm

There's lots of Pearl-Harbor-Kamikaze-9/11-World-Trade-Center-cover-story imagery in this psyops product.

Y'know, 'hijacked planes crashed into buildings that fall down go boom' stuff.

The tie into the bird movie called 'Rio' has details I won't bother to mention on Jeff's UFO board.
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