TIME's covers -- pure propaganda

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Re: TIME's covers -- pure propaganda

Postby Saurian Tail » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:47 pm

The faces in the red background look like people being tormented in the pit of hell. Red is the color of blood and fire. The protester has a look of evil intent ... Satan's spawn coming to get you. That is the message I'm getting.

All of these subtle items register subconsciously and present a clear message to the psyche of fear and despair. Protest is not the answer. We need the authorities to hold off these demons lest we be cast into the chaos.

The message is much more potent when it is presented in this form than if it was spelled out in actual words. The overt message is a tribute to protesters with the real message being the exact opposite ... this kind of sorcery is powerful stuff.

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Re: TIME's covers -- pure propaganda

Postby Simulist » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:53 pm

A few years back, I decided that I had no more time for Time.
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Re: TIME's covers -- pure propaganda

Postby Iamwhomiam » Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:37 pm

I dunno, Nordic, the "Ivory Tower" bit is a protest sign that says "People Power Not Ivory Tower". Though it could read "People Power Not Ivory Power," but this being Time, I doubt it does.

What's more frightening to me than Nordic's multiple vaginae, is the scene taking place in her triangular forehead: somebody with a smoking gun above Munch's "The Scream" guy.

Although, it could be someone offering a steaming hot cup of cocoa to a bunny.
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Re: TIME's covers -- pure propaganda

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:05 pm

I've posted threads about the CIA's flagship nooz mag like this one in the Psyops and Meme Management forum-
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A Senate inquiry into CIA crimes exposed Time as one of their organs but it was suppressed in the final report yet leaked to Carl Bernstein (of Watergate fame) who published 'The CIA and the Media' in Rolling Stone on Oct 20, 1977.

Hollywood is ALL CIA psyops.
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Re: TIME's covers -- pure propaganda

Postby thurnundtaxis » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:30 am

Shepard Fairey has been pretty much showing himself to be an increasingly shitty artist . His milquetoast pseudo-lefty bourgeois-liberal jingoism became more and more stilted until his dreadfully "cool" and "iconic" Obama shill job. Frankly. I couldn't have thought he could get much worse or more irrelevant than that. But THIS image for TIME magazine no less. Fukkin' Ay! that's some super lame bullshit.

Selling out, you're doing it wrong, Fairey.

Go back to doing pictures of pro wrestlers.
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Re: TIME's covers -- pure propaganda

Postby Nordic » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:55 am

Saurian Tail, yes.

Iamwhoiam, the Ivory Tower words work on a sub conscious level. People don't consciously see the whole phrase on the sign, but "Ivory tower" clearly registers.

And I don't understand all the vaginas, or why they picked a woman. I would like to. Anybody have any ideas as to the psychology behind that?

These people are way ahead of us, but I would like to change that.
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Re: TIME's covers -- pure propaganda

Postby Laodicean » Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:03 am

Nordic wrote:
And I don't understand all the vaginas, or why they picked a woman. I would like to. Anybody have any ideas as to the psychology behind that?


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I see a woman, with tormented souls being burned inside vaginas... :roll:

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Re: TIME's covers -- pure propaganda

Postby Nordic » Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:24 am

Well you can't argue the fact that they did choose a woman.

That ain't my psychology at work, the picture is of a woman and they could have chosen a man.
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Re: TIME's covers -- pure propaganda

Postby AlicetheKurious » Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:59 am

Laodicean wrote:You see what you want to see.


Yeah, well, guess what: most men want to see vaginas, so it doesn't take much. I'm not good at that stuff, so I wouldn't have noticed it if Nordic hadn't pointed it out, but once he did, I wondered how I could have missed it.

Out of all the images TIME could have chosen to represent "the protester" why did they choose to modify photo of an American woman protester so that she resembled a veiled Arab woman? They could have chosen a far more dramatic photo of protesters being evicted or attacked by police, a protester actively carrying a sign, angrily shouting, or whatever. Protesters are active, demanding. The #OWS movement is dynamic, young and furious.

Instead, they chose to symbolize the protesters with a picture that seems deliberately to symbolize passivity, weakness and of something unpleasantly foreign, alien. The vaginas only emphasize the highly sexualized image of a veiled woman, drawing on centuries of Western fantasies about what goes on inside the "harems" of the Orient, within the context of a deliberately stoked hysteria about how "Muslims" are on the verge of imposing "Sharia" on the West.

The veiled Arab woman is a symbol for passivity, but not to just anybody. TIME has deliberately chosen to portray protesters as the very image of subservience to the Muslim/Arab male.
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Re: TIME's covers -- pure propaganda

Postby Stephen Morgan » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:10 am

Nordic wrote:Well you can't argue the fact that they did choose a woman.

That ain't my psychology at work, the picture is of a woman and they could have chosen a man.


There's only two choices, it's not like choosing a woman is Something outlandish and full of hidden meaning. Besides which, there are obvious reasons a magazine might put a pretty girl on the cover, although it might be interesting to see a man covered in vaginas.
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Re: TIME's covers -- pure propaganda

Postby Stephen Morgan » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:14 am

AlicetheKurious wrote:
Laodicean wrote:You see what you want to see.


Yeah, well, guess what: most men want to see vaginas, so it doesn't take much. I'm not good at that stuff, so I wouldn't have noticed it if Nordic hadn't pointed it out, but once he did, I wondered how I could have missed it.

Out of all the images TIME could have chosen to represent "the protester" why did they choose to modify photo of an American woman protester so that she resembled a veiled Arab woman? They could have chosen a far more dramatic photo of protesters being evicted or attacked by police, a protester actively carrying a sign, angrily shouting, or whatever. Protesters are active, demanding. The #OWS movement is dynamic, young and furious.


They wouldn't want to make the police look bad. Besides, look at the OJ pic up there. Okay, that's a mug shot, but for a cover there's just something striking about someone looking down the barrel of the camera. Combine it with a pretty girl and the presence of the bandana, international symbol of pinko trouble makers, and it's the picture for them.
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Re: TIME's covers -- pure propaganda

Postby Gnomad » Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:02 am

AlicetheKurious wrote:
Out of all the images TIME could have chosen to represent "the protester" why did they choose to modify photo of an American woman protester so that she resembled a veiled Arab woman? They could have chosen a far more dramatic photo of protesters being evicted or attacked by police, a protester actively carrying a sign, angrily shouting, or whatever. Protesters are active, demanding. The #OWS movement is dynamic, young and furious.



I think that is maybe to conflate the protesters at home with those abroad. Those maybe foreign and dangerous protesters, with violent outcomes all across the arab countries.

Also with all the "terrorist" associations it has been drilled to evoke, more so with the red crescent moon eyes?
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Postby IanEye » Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:38 am

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:Gaimon teamed up with dupe Terry Pratchett to satirize 'The Omen' which was itself a decoy of a NATO nuke targeting plan called 'Clarinet Omen.'


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too many protest singers
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Re: TIME's covers -- pure propaganda

Postby Hammer of Los » Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:57 am

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I imagine Time will try to undermine the legitimacy of the OWS movement, and to generate feelings of antipathy, distrust, fear and hate towards them.

I guess they think they are being subtle.

What's the demographic for readers of Time magazine?

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Re: TIME's covers -- pure propaganda

Postby 2012 Countdown » Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:37 pm

Hammer of Los wrote:...

I imagine Time will try to undermine the legitimacy of the OWS movement, and to generate feelings of antipathy, distrust, fear and hate towards them.

I guess they think they are being subtle.

What's the demographic for readers of Time magazine?...


I am agreeing with this. Who reads Time? People getting their teeth cleaned at the dentist? :bigsmile
Thats the only 'time' I see it.

I agree with most, this imagery is meant to 'scare' the idiot masses, despite the so-called tribute. That cover imagery is "SCARY"! In the article, I understand Tim Pool has a few paragraphs (for all the Pool fans) though.

OT (this guy)
Replay: Live Q&A with citizen journalist Tim Pool
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Tim is profiled as part of Time's Person of the Year package, so here's your chance to find out why.
http://current.com/groups/news-blog/935 ... m-pool.htm


My apologies for any sidetracking. But as we all know, the IMAGE on the cover will have its effect much more than the articles...unless that is the point. Hype/make scary on purpose to get you to buy/read it.
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