Ambien (zolpidem)

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Re: Ambien (zolpidem)

Postby Alaya » Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:12 pm

Will definitely join you with some tequila - Don Julio is sooo smooth. I just loves it.

We'll drink to everything good and forget these strange and scary times.....momentarily, anyway.
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Re: Ambien (zolpidem)

Postby Nordic » Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:45 pm

Alaya wrote:Will definitely join you with some tequila - Don Julio is sooo smooth. I just loves it.

We'll drink to everything good and forget these strange and scary times.....momentarily, anyway.



That sounds so appealing, I can't even tell you.
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Re: Ambien (zolpidem)

Postby 82_28 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:31 am

I'll tout alcohol as a sleep aid. Not passed out. But it chills you out. A couple of times a year I get drunk enough that I pass out. When I pass out from drinking, I know I have because I wake up with one sock off. No idea why.

100% of all psychiatrists in my small study I've conducted for twenty years says that they ALL suffer from being idiots. I don't hate the idea of knowledgeable people that may be able to help. I just hate idiots in penthouse suites who try to help for small fees beginning between $200-$300 for a 40 minute med consultation to give you low grade LSD and then search for answers due to depersonaliztion etc by "choosing" another drug when the one they picked didn't work. I took a benzo twice, and yes, I felt like I was tripping. My one thing that remains the same in life is that I never ever want to feel as though I am tripping. Benzos calmed me down, not at all.

I've also found through missed appointments with psychiatrists, that they are magnitudes more neurotic than me in and of the problems of this world in trying to get their missed appointment money. I had one asshole call me monthly when I was on UI trying to get his $140. I finally told him sternly to fuck off. I never heard from him again.
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Re: Ambien (zolpidem)

Postby Elvis » Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:58 am

Twyla LaSarc wrote:Melatonin works a treat too.

I wonder how far off Ambien is chemically from Haldol. I remember it being used for some of the same stuff and causing similar problems.

Good thing you live with your mom, Elvis. Perhaps you should document some of this and bring it up with her doc?


Actually I don't live with my mom, I was just visiting during xmas.
Thanks for reminding me of melatonin. It didn't seemed to work for me but I know it does for many, so I'll see if she'll try it.

Pot brownies, not so likely. :lol2:

One good thing is, she's only taking half a pill of Ambien (5mg), probably the smallest effective dose. One of her doctors is strongly advising her against Ambien, another says it's "okay" to keep taking it for 6 months.

I don't know the chemical connection to Haldol, but I used to collect pharmaceutical coffee mugs, and my favorite was the Haldol mug--it cracked people up (those who knew what Haldol is).

Nordic, you were right---I talked with her by phone tonight and related more findings and concerns I had, and she wasn't having any of it. I'll be visiting her this weekend and will be alert for sleepwalking etc.


Belligerent Savant wrote:Interestingly, there've been some recent articles highlighting Ambien's apparent ability to revive.... coma patients.


Yes, very interesting, thanks, haven't seen that. It seems to jibe with the brain action article I posted upthread.
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Re: Ambien (zolpidem)

Postby winston smith » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:09 am

Dont forget to tell your Mum about:

EMINEM, whose two huge concerts in Australia in December sold out in 30 minutes, says he "wiped out five years" of his life with drugs.

Eminem, who will play Sydney Football Stadium on December 2 after a gig at Melbourne's Etihad Stadium the night before, fought a battle with prescription drug addiction which came to a head after his 2004 album "Encore".

Eminem feared being a 'drug insomniac'»

EMINEM admits that his drug addiction nearly reached the point of making him being unable to sleep.

Drug-addicted Eminem gets help»

FORMER chart-topping rapper Eminem is receiving help to kick drugs from a doyen of the music industry who says he's been helping him for the past 18 months.

The hip-hop star, who took five years off before making a comeback, admits his substance abuse problems were so bad he has lost whole years of his memory.

"I try to stay recording, because if I don't, I get rusty. I'm very paranoid about writer's block - I had it for four years, and it drove me f^@king crazy. No matter how hard I tried, I just couldn't think of shit," he said.

“The pills had a lot to do with it. Just wiping out brain cells. I don’t know if it sounds like I’m making excuses, but the absolute truth is a lot of my memory is gone. I don’t know if you’ve ever taken Ambien, but it’s kind of a memory-eraser. That shit wiped out five years of my life.

“People will tell me stories, and it’s like, ‘I did that?’ I saw myself doing this thing on (TV network) BET recently, and I was like, ‘When was that?’”

The 38-year-old rapper still wrote music during the heaviest period of his addiction, but admits that looking back over his words from that period is a difficult experience.

“It f^#king creeps me out. Letters all down the page - it was like my hand weighed 400 pounds. I have all that shit in a box in my closet. As a reminder that I don’t ever want to go back,” he said.

Eminem’s drug problems began in 2002 when he made the semi-autobiographical movie 8 Mile and got worse on subsequent tours.

“We were doing 16 hours on the set on 8 Mile, and you had a certain window where you had to sleep,” he said.

“One day somebody gave me an Ambien, and it knocked me the f^#k out. I was like, ‘I need this all the time.’

“Then, when I got off probation for my felonies (in 2003), and I didn’t have to drop urine anymore, the reins came off. On the Anger Management 3 tour (in 2005), I was f^#ked up every night.”

He has been clean and sober since 2007.

Theres no reason for him not to reference the multiple other substances he's used. Its interesting he singles out Ambien.
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Re: Ambien (zolpidem)

Postby Nordic » Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:51 pm

That's exactly what happens with benzo adddiction, and because the addict has no memory of his/her behavior, they have almost no idea of the problem! And they're not even punished by a viscious hangover, they can just wake up later whistling and all la-dee-dah, having no fucking idea that they ruined everybody's day just hours before!

You can try videotaping them, but they might refuse to watch it. The denial can be unlike anything you've ever imagined.

It might be the worst thing I've ever had to deal with.
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Re: Ambien (zolpidem)

Postby Elvis » Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:01 pm

winston smith wrote:Theres no reason for him not to reference the multiple other substances he's used. Its interesting he singles out Ambien.


Notable, yes! Thanks.
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