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Re: another school shooting, Ohio

Postby Stephen Morgan » Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:13 am

MacCruiskeen wrote:Children go crazy because their life has become unbearable. Nothing is more obvious. Sometimes they kill themselves, sometimes they kill others, sometimes they are perfectly nice and just retire into a padded cell, nowadays usually chemically-induced.

Who gives a shit? No one. Least of all Fox and the tabloids.

Meanwhile, at RI and elsewhere on the "left", we can expect endless halfwitted disquisitions about EVIL.

PS: MONEY!!! (Call it Cthulhu, if you insist, i.e., if you prefer it mysterious and can therefore have a good long esoteric wank over it.)


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Re: another school shooting, Ohio

Postby MacCruiskeen » Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:41 am

They always report when it happens, slavering and half-erect. They never report what made it happen, cos there's fuck-all money in it.
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Re: another school shooting, Ohio

Postby barracuda » Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:23 pm

In a time long since, a time of repent, The Renaissance. In a quaint lonely town, sits a man with a frown. No job. No family. No crown. His luck had run out. Lost and alone.

The streets were his home. His thoughts would solely consist of "why do we exist?" His only company to confide in was the vermin in the street. He longed for only one thing, the world to bow at his feet.

They too should feel his secret fear. The dismal drear. His pain had made him sincere. He was better than the rest, all those ones he detests, within their castles, so vain. Selfish and conceited.

They couldn't care less about the peasents they mistreated. They were in their own world, it was a joyous one too. That castle, she stood just to do all she could to keep the peasents at bay, not the enemy away.

They had no enemies in their filthy orgy. And in her, the castles every story, was just another chamber of Lucifer's Laboratory. The world is a sandbox for all the wretched sinners.

They simply create what they want and make themselves the winners. But the true winner, he has nothing at all. Enduring the pain of waiting for that castle to fall. Through his good deeds, the rats and the fleas.

He will have for what he pleads, through the eradication of disease. So, to the castle he proceeds, like an ominous breeze through the trees. "Stay back!" The Guards screamed as they were thrown to their knees. "Oh God, have mercy, please!"

The castle, she gasped and then so imprisoned her breath, to the shallow confines of her fragile chest. I'm on the lamb but I ain't no sheep. I am Death. And you have always been the sod. So repulsive and so odd.

You never even deserved the presence of God, and yet, I am here. Around your cradle I plod. Came on foot, without shod. How improper, how rude. However, they shall not mind the mud on my feet if there is blood on your sheet.

Now! Feel death, not just mocking you. Not just stalking you but inside of you. Wriggle and writhe. Feel smaller beneath my might. Seizure in the Pestilence that is my scythe. Die, all of you.


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Re: another school shooting, Ohio

Postby dbcooper41 » Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:52 pm

check out the slide show on this page. it has a pic of the alleged perp looking all buff and macho. supposedly it was posted on facebook yesterday, presumably before the shooting. certainly a different look from other pics of him, including the one on his current facebook page.
now the interesting thing is this pic is credited to karen bleier of AFP.
so, how did she get this picture, or the rights to it?
or, is a well known photographer(she took obamas pic for time mag i believe) stealing pics from facebook(not likely imho).

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/28/ohio-school-shooting-student-brain-dead_n_1306185.html?ref=education&ir=Education

here's his facebook page with all the right interests(david icke, we don't need no education, free the slaves, etc).
https://www.facebook.com/people/Tj-Lane/100002040079941#!/profile.php?id=100002040079941&sk=friends&v=friends

if he posted the above referenced pic and it was removed by someone(who could access and remove it?) there is no mention of it in his recent activity.

and is karen bleier legit?
"By Adam Sorensen Friday, Nov. 11, 2011BACK NEXT 23 of 34 KAREN BLEIER / AFP / Getty"
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2098471_2098472_2098506,00.html

btw, just noticed the time man o the year was from 11/11/11. go figure :shrug:
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Re: another school shooting, Ohio

Postby dbcooper41 » Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:00 pm

the more i think about it she's(karen bleier) probably just a photo thief who sold a screen capture.
still kinda wonder though. also that pic was taken several months back based on the foilage.
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Re: another school shooting, Ohio

Postby dbcooper41 » Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:18 pm

she certainly has an impressive portfolio for a photo thief.

http://portfolios.afp.com/photographers/region/north-america/karen-bleier.html
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Re: another school shooting, Ohio

Postby Nordic » Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:19 pm

FWIW, publications very often get photo credits wrong. I've had two photographs published that I took that were credited incorrectly, and I'm not even a professional photographer! One was in the LA Times, and the other was in some industry trade publication.

They're very sloppy, at least these days.
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Re: another school shooting, Ohio

Postby dbcooper41 » Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:42 pm

Nordic wrote:FWIW, publications very often get photo credits wrong. I've had two photographs published that I took that were credited incorrectly, and I'm not even a professional photographer! One was in the LA Times, and the other was in some industry trade publication.

They're very sloppy, at least these days.

i can see that but, if you google "karen bleier tj lane pic" you'll see she, and AFP/getty, are very explicit about owning that photo.
they also appear to be very aggresive about protecting their ownership rights of pictures.
and from what little i found online they really have no right to claim ownership of someone else's facebook pic.
it was also mighty fast work to grab that shot between the time the shooter was identified and the time the facebook page was supposedly scrubbed.
not to mention his fbook security settings don't allow nonfriends to view his pics so again, how did she get a copy?
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Re: another school shooting, Ohio

Postby elfismiles » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:01 pm


Chardon: Killing of the Kings

What is the anniversary event of February 27th? What "name game" unites the victims? Who was Chardon, Ohio named after?


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Re: another school shooting, Ohio

Postby DrVolin » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:25 pm

What a mess. Obviously a very gifted child. His victims. Himself. What a waste.
all these dreams are swept aside
By bloody hands of the hypnotized
Who carry the cross of homicide
And history bears the scars of our civil wars

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Re: another school shooting, Ohio

Postby RobinDaHood » Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:37 pm

Image
The following was allegedly posted by T.J. Lane on his Facebook page on December 20, 2011:

In a time long since, a time of repent, The Renaissance. In a quaint lonely town, sits a man with a frown. No job. No family. No crown. His luck had run out. Lost and alone.

The streets were his home. His thoughts would solely consist of "why do we exist?" His only company to confide in was the vermin in the street. He longed for only one thing, the world to bow at his feet.

They too should feel his secret fear. The dismal drear. His pain had made him sincere.

He was better than the rest, all those ones he detests, within their castles, so vain. Selfish and conceited.

They couldn't care less about the peasents they mistreated. They were in their own world, it was a joyous one too. That castle, she stood just to do all she could to keep the peasents at bay, not the enemy away.

They had no enemies in their filthy orgy. And in her, the castles every story, was just another chamber of Lucifer's Laboratory. The world is a sandbox for all the wretched sinners.

They simply create what they want and make themselves the winners. But the true winner, he has nothing at all. Enduring the pain of waiting for that castle to fall. Through his good deeds, the rats and the fleas.

He will have for what he pleads, through the eradication of disease. So, to the castle he proceeds, like an ominous breeze through the trees. "Stay back!" The Guards screamed as they were thrown to their knees. "Oh God, have mercy, please!"

The castle, she gasped and then so imprisoned her breath, to the shallow confines of her fragile chest. I'm on the lamb but I ain't no sheep. I am Death. And you have always been the sod. So repulsive and so odd.

You never even deserved the presence of God, and yet, I am here. Around your cradle I plod. Came on foot, without shod. How improper, how rude. However, they shall not mind the mud on my feet if there is blood on your sheet.

Now! Feel death, not just mocking you. Not just stalking you but inside of you. Wriggle and writhe. Feel smaller beneath my might. Seizure in the Pestilence that is my scythe. Die, all of you.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2107152/Chardon-High-School-shooting-THIRD-classmate-dies-TJ-Lanes-online-rantings-revealed.html?ICO=most_read_module
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Re: another school shooting, Ohio

Postby eyeno » Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:02 am

Really? How do you know this? From watching "cops"?


A lawyer I know that is buddies with a lot of cops said they talk about it a lot.
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Re: another school shooting, Ohio

Postby Simulist » Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:27 am

I feel terribly sorry for everyone impacted by this, but sorry also for the kid that did this, TJ Lane.

His father, apparently, was arrested many times for crimes of violence against women. His parents were each charged with domestic violence against each other, shortly after TJ was born. Later, his father was arrested for assaulting a police officer. Also, his father spent time in prison for trying to suffocate a woman he had married several years following the birth of his son.

According to CBS News, "TJ Lane attended Lake Academy, an alternative school in Willoughby for students in Lake and Geauga counties. His peers said the 17-year-old shooting suspect was quiet. Some said he was sweet, while others said he had a simmering temper."

His simmering temper seems a bit more understandable now, knowing all of this. I'm sure there is much, too much, more.
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Re: another school shooting, Ohio

Postby wordspeak2 » Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:58 am

dbcooper41 wrote:not to mention his fbook security settings don't allow nonfriends to view his pics so again, how did she get a copy?


That is a legitimate question.
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Re: another school shooting, Ohio

Postby NeonLX » Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:58 am

This tragedy has re-ignited the gun control debate where I work. The arguments among coworkers are even more "passionate" than usual this time around--to the point of getting quite heated. Of course, I don't like the idea of "nuts" having access to guns...but I don't think I'm a gun-ban type of person either. I grew up in a household where learning about responsible gun use and storage was de rigueur (being rural types, we hunted and did a lot of target practice at things perched on top of fence posts).
America is a fucked society because there is no room for essential human dignity. Its all about what you have, not who you are.--Joe Hillshoist
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