JetBlue Flight Captain Flips out?

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Re: JetBlue Flight Captain Flips out?

Postby dbcooper41 » Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:13 pm

it's a small world after all :thumbsup

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/jetblue-passengers-thought-of-9-11-s-flight-93-1.3629085

When the pilot of JetBlue
Flight 191 bolted through the plane's cabin, banged on the cockpit door and
screamed about Iraq, bombs and al-Qaida -- all at 35,000 feet -- passengers
thought of doomed 9/11 Flight 93.
Paul Babakitis, 51, of Jericho, a retired NYPD sergeant, watched the 49-year-old
pilot's meltdown Tuesday afternoon from a seventh-row seat. So did Jason Levin,
39, of Farmingville, in Seat 1C. Tony Antolino, 40, of Rye, from the 10th row,
also sensed something was amiss.
Like United Flight 93 passengers, they sprang into action when Babakitis asked
for help to wrestle pilot Clayton Osbon to the floor as a co-pilot steered the
craft to safety.
MORE: FBI's filing on what allegedly happened | Latest photos
"We have to get him on the ground," said Babakitis, recalling the moment Osbon's
erratic behavior began. "They all understood."
Babakitis, who heads PGB Executive Investigations, helped collar Osbon for
several minutes as the plane -- en route to Las Vegas -- was diverted to
Amarillo, Texas. The fast-moving in-flight drama evoked the horrors of 9/11,
according to several passengers on board.
"Of course I thought of 9/11, where I was at," said Babakitis, who worked in the
NYPD's command center helping coordinate the response to the attacks
.

The passengers of Flight 93 attacked the terrorists who took over the plane
after they realized it had been hijacked. The Boeing 757 crashed in Shanksville,
Pa. No one survived. Three other hijacked planes crashed that day into the World
Trade Center and the Pentagon, killing nearly 3,000 people.
Tuesday, Babakitis and about a half dozen of his fellow passengers were pressed
into service, and were determined to avoid the same fate.
"What I said to myself," Babakitis mused Wednesday, after he arrived at a
security conference in Las Vegas, 'This is not happening on this flight if I can
do anything about it.' We held him down. I individually could not have held him
down myself."
Just what happened to make the respected pilot unravel is being investigated.
But the quick-thinking passengers who rose to defuse a potential tragedy said
they know they acted properly and may have saved the lives of 141 passengers and
crew.
"Everyone came together as one, came together as New Yorkers to stop the
situation," said Levin, a security system installer. "In those five seconds when
adrenaline hits, your life does cross in front of your eyes. I thought of my
wife and my kids."
The father of 7-year-old twins, a boy and girl, Levin said he leaped from his
first-row seat as Osbon shouted terrifying phrases like: "Israel, Iran, we got
him, we got him, yeahhhh!"
Osbon's lips were red, dry and chapped, as if he'd been skiing, Levin said. Both
Babakitis and Levin said their arms were sore from holding him down. He broke
through some of the plastic restraints supplied by the airline, so the
passengers used their belts to hold him down.
"Holding someone down with all your might for 20 minutes is exhausting," Levin
said.
Added Babakitis: "My arm hurts; it's kind of bruised actually."
Antolino, chief marketing officer for Eyelock Corp., said the drama unfolded
gradually with Osbon traipsing down the aisle to a lavatory in the back of the
plane. Osbon then all but sprinted to the front and tried to get into the
cockpit after the co-pilot had changed the security code on the door, Antolino
said.
Antolino found out that crew members were trying to lure Osbon away from the
cockpit. When he realized he'd been tricked, Osbon became angry and fumbled with
the security code to the cockpit door.
That was Antolino's signal to do something, he said, adding that he acted on
impulse. He reached out into the aisle and clutched the rambling Osbon.
Don Davis, 53, of Massapequa, was sitting in row four on his way to a security
conference when, he said, Osbon "nearly took my head off when he came running
forward" up the aisle. He said quick thinking by passengers and crew averted a
disaster.
"I was saying Hail Marys in my seat," said Davis, who also had Flight 93
passengers on his mind. "It didn't end well for them. If it wasn't for the
co-pilot, I don't think it would have ended well for us."
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Re: JetBlue Flight Captain Flips out?

Postby dbcooper41 » Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:52 pm

http://www.wpix.com/news/morningnews/wpix-jetblue-nypd-pilot-032912,0,3590897.story
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March 29, 2012Bradley Silverbush is a close personal friend and a business
associate of the Ret. NYPD Sergeant Paul Babakitis, who helped to tackle JetBlue
Airlines pilot captain Calyton Osbon to the ground on Flight 191 bound for Las
Vegas. Paul called Bradley to tell him what was going no before any of it made
headlines. Bradley joined us to talk about Paul and about the JetBlue air scare.


the video(if anyone can imbed/link to it please do) on this page is interesting because if you listen carefully the "friend", Bradley Silverbush, refers to "paul and tony". presumably tony is Tony Antolino, 40, of Rye, who was one of the other "heroes".
"paul and tony" have become the poster boys for this event hitting all the talk shows.
so bradley silverbush knows 2 heroes of flight 191, yet i haven't read any mention about them knowing each other. perhaps they've revealed that in one of their interviews. i haven't watched them yet.
i'm also impressed by the lack of mention in any mainstream stories that hero paul was involved in the 9/11/2001 events.
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Re: JetBlue Flight Captain Flips out?

Postby Nordic » Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:07 pm

"Silverbush"? Really?

I'm 50 years old and have never heard of that name before.

Funny how another of the "heroes" is a security system installer.
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Re: JetBlue Flight Captain Flips out?

Postby dbcooper41 » Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:35 pm

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=aaple%20newsletter%20babakitis&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CDcQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aaple.org%2Fnewsletters%2F2010%2FAug_2010_AAPLE_Newsletter.pdf&ei=jt90T9HpK4jJ0AH1rPW3DQ&usg=AFQjCNF14ZbXuhs61JEI28DNPYXHyOafDw

silverbush and babakitis are linked through this organization.
"paul's" son michael babakitis won a scholarship from them, silverbush does pro bono work for the org(american academy for professional law enforcement).
their leadership,from the letterhead includes the nypd big wheels and 9/11 heroes howard safir, raymond w kelly and bradley s silverbush.

according to linkedin michael babakitis also worked for his dad paul's company, pgb executive investigations.
they specialize in :
"PGB Executive Investigations
Legal Services industry

January 2007 – May 2010 (3 years 5 months)

Created strategies to win lease and/or statutory violation cases.
Performed undercover investigations using covert equipment.
Contributed in the design and creation of covert surveillance equipment.
Generated reports detailing investigative findings."
PGB Executive Investigations
Legal Services industry

January 2007 – May 2010 (3 years 5 months)

Created strategies to win lease and/or statutory violation cases.
Performed undercover investigations using covert equipment.
Contributed in the design and creation of covert surveillance equipment.
Generated reports detailing investigative findings. "
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/michael-babakitis/21/8aa/782

silverbush specializes in real estate law so i'm guessing he and babikitis worked together on evictions, etc.
one of his specialties seems to be something called the "Narcotics Eviction Program (Lecturer), New York City" which i'm sure ex narco bernard kerik would have had nothing to do with. :shrug:
http://www.rosenbergestis.com/Attorney-Profiles/Bradley-S-Silverbush.shtml
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Re: JetBlue Flight Captain Flips out?

Postby Nordic » Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:42 pm

Quite the web appearing from the gloom. Thanks and keep up the good work.
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Re: JetBlue Flight Captain Flips out?

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:04 am

(dbcooper, you need to fix your post above so it doesn't stretch the screen out of readability. thanks.)

Flight 191
Fight 9/11

What a show. All keyword based and context-timed. The new 'good war' over 9/11 no longer supported. uh-oh! :!:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/ ... 2K20120327
Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:42pm EDT
(Reuters) - Support for the war in Afghanistan has dropped sharply among Americans in recent months as they grow increasingly disillusioned with the conflict that began more than a decade ago, according to a New York Times/CBS News public opinion poll released on Monday.

Two-thirds of those polled - 69 percent - said the United States should no longer be fighting in Afghanistan, up from 53 percent in November and the highest percentage since the New York Times/CBS News poll started asking that question in 2009, CBS reported.

Sixty-eight percent said the fighting was going "somewhat badly" or "very badly," compared with 42 percent who voiced those views in November 2011, the New York Times reported.

The Times/CBS News survey results are in line with other recent polls that show a drop in support for the war. The survey comes after the massacre of 17 Afghan civilians in which a U.S. soldier has been charged, violence set off by the burning of Korans by American troops last month and a number of killings of U.S. troops by Afghan security forces.

According to the poll, negative impressions of the war have increased among both Democrats and Republicans.
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Re: JetBlue Flight Captain Flips out?

Postby compared2what? » Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:27 am

dbcooper41 wrote:isn't it a bit unsual that the passengers had zip tie handcuffs onboard?
and that he was jacked enough on something to be able to break them?
sounds like he was dosed.
but i find this statement most interesting. reminds me of the lady in the polka dot dress.

An FBI affidavit filed with the complaint says Osbon arrived later than he
should have for Flight 191 and missed the crew briefing. After takeoff, Osbon
told his co-pilot he was being evaluated by someone
, then began talking about
religion in an incoherent way, according to the affidavit from FBI Agent John
Whitworth.

http://travel.usatoday.com/flights/story/2012-03-27/Subdued-JetBlue-pilot-is-consummate-professional/53811070/1


Well....The evaluation might have been from some higher-up in the extra-scammy, super-high-pressure MLM outfit he had the misfortune to be attempting to do direct-sales for. It's called Visalus Sciences ("Take the Body by ViTM Challenge!"), and it sells weight-loss products ("the shake mix that tastes like a cake mix!") and nutritional supplements that purport to halt the aging process, build muscle, make you smarter, etc., etc.

That seems plausible to me for two reasons:

    (1) Those things can be pretty cult-y, sometimes. And cultiness sometimes does induce psychotic breaks; and

    (2) He was kind of overweight and if -- as one would expect -- he was buying and consuming their products religiously in order to be one of their Featured Success Stories, or to win one of their Hollywood Transformation Vacations, or whatever, it's also possible that could have pushed him over the edge all by itself. Either through some syndrome secondary to malnutrition or....I don't know. I am not a biochemist.

    But I do know that -- at least in theory -- it's totally possible to trigger the release of some horrible flood of neurotoxins by taking tons and tons of amino acids, or vitamins, or whatever-the-hell-Visalus-puts-in-its-fit-kits as a substitute for the 60 meals a month their weight-loss program replaces with nutritional shakes.

    So it might have been kind of like a dietary-supplement version of amphetamine psychosis. Basically.

Just a thought. I'm not wedded to it.
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Re: JetBlue Flight Captain Flips out?

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:41 am

compared2what, only because I've read your.....posts for years...can I believe you posted that nonsense about
"dietary supplements" and the "girl in the polka-dot dress" referring to the RFK assassination.
And I know the actress' nose featured this week that inspired that one involving a 'mirror,'. oh yeh.

Gotta save that one. ech. So...educational. :coolshades

compared2what wrote:Well....The evaluation might have been from some higher-up in the extra-scammy, super-high-pressure MLM outfit he had the misfortune to be attempting to do direct-sales for. It's called Visalus Sciences ("Take the Body by ViTM Challenge!"), and it sells weight-loss products ("the shake mix that tastes like a cake mix!") and nutritional supplements that purport to halt the aging process, build muscle, make you smarter, etc., etc.

That seems plausible to me for two reasons:

(1) Those things can be pretty cult-y, sometimes. And cultiness sometimes does induce psychotic breaks; and

(2) He was kind of overweight and if -- as one would expect -- he was buying and consuming their products religiously in order to be one of their Featured Success Stories, or to win one of their Hollywood Transformation Vacations, or whatever, it's also possible that could have pushed him over the edge all by itself. Either through some syndrome secondary to malnutrition or....I don't know. I am not a biochemist.

But I do know that -- at least in theory -- it's totally possible to trigger the release of some horrible flood of neurotoxins by taking tons and tons of amino acids, or vitamins, or whatever-the-hell-Visalus-puts-in-its-fit-kits as a substitute for the 60 meals a month their weight-loss program replaces with nutritional shakes.

So it might have been kind of like a dietary-supplement version of amphetamine psychosis. Basically.

Just a thought. I'm not wedded to it.
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Re: JetBlue Flight Captain Flips out?

Postby compared2what? » Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:17 am

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Re: JetBlue Flight Captain Flips out?

Postby dbcooper41 » Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:54 pm

it seems that tony antolino, of "paul and tony" fame is not only a hero, he's also a fortune teller.
he shot a video of the mad pilot minutes before any bizarre activity took place. he wanted some record to be found in case the plane went down.
the coworkers talking to the mad pilot don't seem to be too concerned. one has a big old grin on his face.
considering the number of likely operatives on the plane and how everything has worked out(the pilot seems to be still a bit flipped out)
i'm wondering if this wasn't a hijacking that went bad.

perhaps capt osbon didn't play his part correctly and blew the event?
check out this video and see if you can give any reasonable explanation for tony antolino taking this video.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/05/new-video-of-jetblue-pilot-psych-exam_n_1406050.html

New video of JetBlue pilot Clayton Osbon moments before his in-air meltdown has
surfaced a week after he seemingly had a meltdown midair.
CBS News obtained a video shot by passenger Tony Antolino moments before Osbon's
meltdown. In the video, Osbon can be seen talking with co-workers and drinking
water.
Antolino told CBS News, "I at least wanted something so that, God forbid the
phone was found in a field somewhere, maybe there would be some tip, some hint
for someone to say ok, hey, what was going on here."

It is unclear why Antolino
took video of the captain speaking with his co-workers prior to his meltdown
.
Osbon, who is being held without bail in Amarillo, Texas, has been charged with
interfering with flight crew and faces up to 20 years in prison if convicted.
On Monday, Osbon's wife released a statement saying, "We hope you can empathize
and understand that our focus completely surrounds Clayton's recovery and the
path that lies immediately ahead." It continued, "We would like to recognize the
Crew and passengers of Flight 191 for their effective yet compassionate handling
of the situation. It is our belief, as Clayton's family, that while he was
clearly distressed, he was not intentionally violent toward anyone. We know you
were placed in an awful situation and we appreciate your ability to respond
professionally."
In a motion filed late Monday, prosecutors are requesting Osbon undergo a
psychological exam, the Associated Press reports. A judge has ordered the
evaluation to occur in a prison hospital to determine if he is "presently
suffering from a mental disease or defect rendering him mentally incompetent."
The detention hearing previously scheduled for Thursday has been postponed to
Monday.
JetBlue CEO Dave Barger told CBS that the airline will help Osbon and his family
"in whatever their needs may be."
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Re: JetBlue Flight Captain Flips out?

Postby dbcooper41 » Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:36 pm

check out this webpage.


http://flightaware.com/live/flight/JBU191/history/20120327/1055Z/KJFK/KAMA

if you click on 27-mar-2012 it will show you the flight path of jetblue 191.
for some reason on that day the path was considerably south of the usual route. click on any other day to see what i mean.
so why? and why was it diverted to amarillo? seems like several flights have been diverted there in the past few months.
fortunately there seems to be a suitable mental facility there to store, i mean treat, the prisoner, i mean mentally ill pilot. :shrug:
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Re: JetBlue Flight Captain Flips out?

Postby Elihu » Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:11 pm

i'm wondering if this wasn't a hijacking that went bad.
perhaps capt osbon didn't play his part correctly and blew the event?
more likely a test for a future operation of the nano bot mind control implants/psychedelic drug cocktail. that could explain the subject being the captain, the presence and readiness of so many operators, and the amarillo drop off point. this couldn't be a standard "hijacking" due to the lack of some kind of minority to "blame" it on. it could have been the type of hijack where the whole plane and occupants disappear while something else purporting to be the plane blows up / crashes elsewhere. isn't there some serious military / underground base stuff in amarillo?
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Re: JetBlue Flight Captain Flips out?

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:01 pm

Aha. Hackers calling themselves "cabincr3w" just got some exposure by messing with law enforcement agency websites.
March 15 FBI cybersecuriity indictment filed against them.
Just showed up on Cryptome.org

http://cryptome.org/2012/04/usa-v-ochoa-complaint.pdf

Add that to Richard Gages's 9/11 Truth speaking tour and the concept of hacked plane navigation software surfaces...."cabin crew"....
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Re: JetBlue Flight Captain Flips out?

Postby Pele'sDaughter » Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:17 am

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/04/17 ... z1sIoVSIDf

:shock:

An Air Canada pilot mistook the planet Venus for another aircraft and plunged his plane towards the Atlantic Ocean to avoid a collision.

A report released Monday by the Transportation Safety Board of Canada found 16 people were injured after the Boeing 767 dropped 400 feet to avoid an imaginary crash with an oncoming US C-17 military cargo plane.

The report blamed pilot fatigue and breached rules over mid-flight napping for the January 2011 incident on a Toronto to Zurich flight.

An investigation by the safety board -- based in Gatineau, Quebec -- revealed the first officer had just woken from a "controlled rest" when the captain informed him a US cargo plane was flying towards them.

He "initially mistook the planet Venus for an aircraft," then thought an oncoming plane was descending from above and risked an "imminent collision."

The cargo plane was actually 1,000 feet below the Air Canada flight.

The report said, "Under the effects of significant sleep inertia (when awareness and performance are degraded after sleep), the first officer perceived the oncoming aircraft as being on a collision course and began a descent to avoid it."

Fourteen passengers and two crew members were injured during the incident. The passengers were all in economy class, and none were wearing seatbelts.

Air Canada spokesman Peter Fitzpatrick said, "We sincerely regret that some of our customers were injured, and we have taken measures to prevent a reoccurrence of this type of event."

Under Canadian regulations, pilots are permitted to take "controlled rest" naps of a maximum of 40 minutes during flights.
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Re: JetBlue Flight Captain Flips out?

Postby elfismiles » Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:55 pm


JetBlue Pilot Clayton Osbon Found Not Guilty In Mid-Flight Freak Out
Passengers Say He Ran Through Cabin Ranting About Jesus And Al-Qaeda
July 3, 2012 6:12 PM

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — The JetBlue pilot accused in a mid-air meltdown has been found not guilty by reason of insanity.

A Texas judge said Clayton Osbon suffered a “severe mental disease or defect” that impaired his ability during the March 27 incident on JetBlue Flight 191.

The decision came one month after Osbon was ruled mentally competent to stand trial.

The 49-year-old had faced up to 20 years in prison if he convicted on the charge of interference with a flight crew.

Osbon had an outburst on a flight from John F. Kennedy Airport to Las Vegas before passengers tackled him. The crew then made an emergency landing in Amarillo.

Passengers said they had to wrestle him to the floor when he ran through the cabin mid-flight, yelling about Jesus and Al-Qaeda. At one point he allegedly told passengers “We’re not going to Vegas.”

Following the incident, Osbon’s wife released a statement saying she and her family believed “That while he was clearly distressed, he was not intentionally violent towards anyone.”

Osbon will undergo more evaluations at a federal mental health facility before a scheduled court hearing in August. At that time, a judge will decide whether the former pilot will be released or head to a mental facility.

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