Gaza: The Gates of Wrath and Sorrow Swing Open Once Again

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Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:15 am

Gaza is a concentration camp


NOVEMBER 15, 2012

Let Us Now Speak Plainly
The most striking and significant quality of our national conversation "is one of overwhelming, oppressive and suffocating unreality. It is as if everyone knows, but will never acknowledge, that we may speak only in code, and that we may only utilize the safe, empty phrases that we have agreed are 'acceptable' -- phrases and language that are safe precisely because they have been drained of all correspondence to facts. It is as if everyone realizes, but will never state, that we are engaged in an elaborate charade, a pageant of gesture and indication, where substance and specific meaning have been banned. ... [T]he truth is not merely unpleasant, an uninvited guest who makes conversation difficult and awkward. Truth is the enemy; truth is to be destroyed."

Gaza is a concentration camp. It is not like a concentration camp. It is not a metaphorical or figurative concentration camp. It is a concentration camp. Our culture, our political leaders, and the cacophony of voices in the media have all agreed that this truth must never be spoken. If one wanted to be momentarily charitable about people's absolute refusal to recognize the obvious, one might argue that a land area of approximately 140 square miles, containing a population of roughly 1.7 million people, could not possibly be a concentration camp. But size and the number of prisoners are not the distinguishing characteristics of a concentration camp. The most essential characteristic of a concentration camp is what is permitted, and what is not. Only one question matters: Under what conditions are the people within its borders permitted to live?

Israel controls most of Gaza's land borders, just as Israel controls the air space above it and the waters that border Gaza on the west. The sole exception is the small border with Egypt, and Israel subjects that border to attacks whenever it chooses. In essence, nothing is permitted in or out of Gaza without Israel's permission. When Israel imposes severe restrictions on what and who is allowed to enter and leave Gaza, the consequences are catastrophic, as Uri Avnery explained a few years ago:
The blockade on land, on sea and in the air against a million and a half human beings is an act of war, as much as any dropping of bombs or launching of rockets. It paralyzes life in the Gaza Strip: eliminating most sources of employment, pushing hundreds of thousands to the brink of starvation, stopping most hospitals from functioning, disrupting the supply of electricity and water.
Israel imposes conditions on Gaza and its inhabitants that necessarily result in a slow, long, lingering death. Unjustified but quick murder, murder which occurs in an instant, is a terrible crime. How are we to describe the crime that sentences a huge number of people to death, but does so in a manner that ensures the unendurable pain will last for years, that pain and deprivation can never be forgotten, that agony becomes the increasingly overwhelming component of a human being's existence?

I speak here of the necessary, inevitable final consequence of the policy Israel has chosen with deliberation and great care. Yes, people in Gaza still go about their lives to the extent they can. They still enjoy the company of family and friends; they continue to celebrate birthdays and holidays. They seize those rare, precious moments of happiness that circumstances allow. That they have moments of reprieve from the horror that ultimately awaits them does not make the horror imposed on them better. It makes it worse, infinitely, unimaginably worse. Israel's policy is that of a monstrous sadist, a sadist who finds hideous pleasure in subjecting its victims to pain that lasts a lifetime.

We are forbidden to say this.

Because we may never say this, some of those determined to remain in a state of almost perfect ignorance will be heard to complain: "But surely nothing justifies the violence of the Palestinians themselves, or their firing rockets into Israel!" Gaza is a concentration camp. The inhabitants of Gaza act in defense of their lives, to the extent the hell to which they are condemned can be called "life" at all. That is: "When you leave people no choice but to engage in violence, they'll engage in violence." This, too, must never be acknowledged.

The torture that Israel inflicts on Gaza is of a rare, uncommon refinement; this is torture that is endlessly inventive, forever finding new ways of prolonging the suffering of its victims. Consider:
In 2010, Israel relaxed its economic siege following an international outcry over its deadly raid of a Turkish-flagged humanitarian flotilla, allowing Gazans to legally import more consumer goods. Hamas took the opportunity to transform the tunnels, which were previously used for only basic consumer goods, into a government-sanctioned trade route for raw construction materials and cheap Egyptian petrol, fueling the economic boom of 2011 and 2012.

The rapid, subterranean inflow through the tunnels spurred a bustling construction sector that accounted for 27 percent of job growth in the Gaza Strip in 2011, private sector groups say.

The economy improved so much that, according to a September poll released by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research, just 9 percent of Palestinians believe the blockade on Gaza is the most serious problem facing Palestinian society today. ...

Devastated by the economic siege, during which 30 percent of Gaza’s businesses closed, the economy grew a staggering 20 percent in 2011, according to the International Monetary Fund.

Per capita gross domestic product also increased by 19 percent in 2011.

“The role the [Hamas] government is playing is a positive one. It facilitated the entrance of construction materials, and allowed them to be delivered at reasonable prices,” Nasser Al Helow, a Gazan business mogul with real estate investments and an import business, said in July.

“This affected unemployment and stimulated other economic sectors,” he said.
Live!, said Israel, at least a little bit, at least for a little while. As in the case of a man dying of thirst, the Gazans eagerly drank the water they so desperately needed. They fiercely seized the brief opportunity they were provided. They lived to the degree they could, and some conditions temporarily improved in significant ways.

But Gaza was still a concentration camp:
Since that initial boom, Egypt closed many of the commercial tunnels in reaction to a deadly militant attack on Egyptian soldiers near the Gaza border. The closures curbed some of the freewheeling economic activity.

Construction imports are now down 45 percent and food imports 30 percent, according to October data released by the Portland Trust, a private sector group in Israel and the Palestinian Territories.

Forty-four percent of Gazan refugees are still reliant on food aid, while 60 percent of households are either food-insecure or vulnerable to food insecurity, according to the United Nations Relief Works Agency.

This poverty is likely to deepen in the wake of the ongoing Israeli military offensive. Gaza is still closed to exports through Israeli crossings, which hampers efforts to build a full-fledged economy free from foreign aid.

But a surplus of raw materials already in Gaza because of the boom, an uptick in trade through the Israeli crossings and the ease with which fuel is transported through the tunnels — in thin hoses requiring little solid infrastructure — means the economy has not yet received a knockout blow, economists say.
That "knockout blow" is all too likely to be delivered in the near future.

It is close to impossible to describe sadism of this kind in the required terms. To subject a vast number of human beings to unimaginable suffering, then to hold out the brief promise of life and perhaps even a measurable degree of happiness -- only to snatch all of it away once more ... The scope of this particular evil seeks to protect itself from judgment and condemnation by making itself ungraspable to anyone who is still recognizably human.

As has happened every time before, the world watches -- and the world does nothing. More horrifying is the fact that the most powerful nation on earth, the United States, supports this evil and guarantees that it will not only continue, but very probably get still worse. Any individual who expected a different response from the United States in any respect at all has blinded himself to the nature of the United States generally, and to the significance of the Obama administration more particularly. For the Obama administration has engaged in a worldwide campaign of death for four years, and promises to continue the campaign into the indefinite future. And Obama and his fellow murderers repeatedly proclaim their "right" to murder any innocent human being wherever he may be in the world, for any reason they invent and even for no reason at all. A nation led by a group of serial murderers will hardly object to another country's program of sadism. That Israel's practice of sadism is so remarkably creative -- that it inflicts pain and suffering in an endless variety of ways, over a prolonged period of time -- is likely only to provoke envy on the part of Obama and his fellow murderers, and perhaps the thought that Israel might have some very useful ideas worthy of adoption.

This is evil of an unusual kind, evil that delights in its own cruelty, evil that seeks no end other than the satisfaction of watching its victims suffer for years on end, with a glimmer of hope offered now and then -- but solely for the purpose of making the suffering to come even more painful.

And there is no end in sight.
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Re: Gaza: The Gates of Wrath and Sorrow Swing Open Once Agai

Postby psynapz » Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:29 pm

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Re: Gaza: The Gates of Wrath and Sorrow Swing Open Once Agai

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:38 pm

^^^^ Thanks

reminds me of the potatoes my ancestors threw at the British

Muslim Brotherhood mobilizes protests against Israel in Cairo
Sarah Lynch Special for USA TODAY

10:36AM EST November 16. 2012 - CAIRO – Thousands of Egyptians took to the streets Friday protesting Israeli attacks on the Gaza Strip, waving Palestinian flags across the Egyptian capital and demanding the Egyptian government cut ties with Israel.

"We're here today to say to Israel: Go to Hell," said Mustafa Kamel from a Cairo neighborhood called Imbaba at a demonstration outside Al-Azhar Mosque that was planned by the Muslim Brotherhood. "Muslims are strong. In Egypt, we refuse Israel and the politics of America."

Demonstrations also took place in Tahrir Square following days of intense escalation in violence between Israel and the Gaza Strip, posing challenges for Egypt's new government and its president, Mohamed Morsi.

"The Muslim Brotherhood has made it clear they want to use this as an excuse to sever ties," said Eric Trager of the pro-Israeli Washington Institute for Near East Policy.

Morsi,who formerly headed the Brotherhood's political wing but no longer officially belongs to the party, is caught between his ideology and affiliation with the group and the Egyptian officials he's entrusted to manage Egypt-Israel relations, Trager said.

The matter of ties between the two nations is a "sensitive issue" for Morsi, said Mohamed El Mekkawi, a member of the foreign relations committee for the Brotherhood's Freedom and Justice Party. The Egyptian president has tried to create a new strategy for relations based on the pillar of benefits between Egypt and Israel, but Israeli attacks on Gaza have "complicated the situation,"he said.

STORY: Violence in Gaza continues

The border area was calm Friday as Hamas, which controls the Gaza Strip. met with diplomats from Egypt and Turkey. Hamas is a designated Palestinian terror organization and has fired hundreds of rockets into Israeli neighborhoods this year. Last weekend Hamas terrorists fired nearly 200 rockets in a barrage that Israel vowed to stop.

The Palestinians say at least 19 people have been killed by the Israeli attacks. Israel said that is regrettable but that it is Hamas that bears responsibility for the deaths by its unprovoked attacks on Israeli civilians.This week Israel launched with air attacks against various targets inside Gaza: weapons depots and rocket factories. On Wednesday it fired a missile into the car containing a Hamas military commander, killing him.

On Thursday, a rocket from Gaza aimed at a neighborhood in southern Israel killed three people in their apartment, including a pregnant mother of two.

After months of speculation about how an Islamist-led government would deal with its neighbor, the escalating crisis between Israel and Gaza may indicate if Morsi will do what Hosni Mubarak didn't: Recalibrate relations with Israel without doing damage to Egyptian interests, or convincingly explain to the Egyptian public why he isn't changing his policies and then get away with it, said Hussein Ibish, a senior fellow at the American Task Force on Palestine in Washington.


Hossam Mohammad Anter, a teacher from the Nile Delta.(Photo: Sarah Lynch)
The most logical path for Morsi, however, is to reflect Mubarak's actions and be the one interlocutor who can talk to Hamas without enhancing their diplomatic standing, Ibish said. Egypt's Prime Minister Hesham Qandil visited Gaza Friday morning to show solidarity with Palestinians and said Cairo would try to foster a ceasefire.

"If he can try to do that, and if he does do that, it will be a pretty neat escape from a nice little trap that's been set for him," Ibish said. "It depends a lot on how this is perceived in Egypt, how Morsi explains his policies to the Egyptians, and how the Egyptians understand relations between emotions and national interests."

Whether the Egpytian military would approve of any action against Israel is questionable. Morsi has exerted some influence over the military but it remains a powerful and independent force in Egyptian politics that has maintained a peaceful relationship with Israel for decades under Mubarak.

But different from Mubarak, Morsi rose to power in a democratic election and is expected to cater more to the demands of the Egyptian street and less to those of Western powers.

"Where are the human rights with what happened in Israel?" asked Mohammed Gouma, 22, a protester from Beni Suef. "Children are being killed in Gaza, and what has Barack Obama done?"

Obama said Thursday that Israel has the right to defend itself.

Morsi said Thursday in a televised speech that Israel's attacks on Gaza were "unacceptable"and that they threatened to destabilize the region. For months, the region has already been on edge over growing militancy in Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, which shares a border with Israel and has been a base for attacks on the Jewish nation.

On Wednesday, Egypt withdrew its ambassador from Israel and Morsi later called for an urgent meeting of the Arab League.

"He's been, as usual, more creative than observers originally anticipated," Trager said. "Recalling his ambassador, that's a light move – something Mubarak did."

Sending the prime minister to Gaza, however, is very bold, he said. While the visit doesn't have a direct consequence for Egypt-Israel relations, it demonstrates strong support for Hamas. Some on Friday still demanded more from Morsi.

"We want him to alter the Camp David agreements and cut relations between Egypt and Israel," said Hossam Mohammad Anter, a teacher from the Nile Delta.

But Anter concedes that presently, this may not be in Egypt's best interest.

"Egypt is not strong enough to make war with Israel," Anter said. "So, we'll have to go step by step."
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Re: Gaza: The Gates of Wrath and Sorrow Swing Open Once Agai

Postby Krysos » Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:04 pm

seemslikeadream wrote:Well Mr. Krysos I believe you owe every one of my dear friends on this board an apology, especially me. Not only did you come here spouting off accusing RI members of not caring but I had made my OP a day before your tirade, you didn't even read the first page where you would have found TWO threads about the Palestinians, way more informative than the scant info that you spent your precious time posting about a day late and a dollar short.

so next time.....

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My sincerest apologies. I looked for and didn't see the thread last night. Admittedly, I was drunk, and angry.
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Re: Gaza: The Gates of Wrath and Sorrow Swing Open Once Agai

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:21 pm

Krysos wrote:
seemslikeadream wrote:Well Mr. Krysos I believe you owe every one of my dear friends on this board an apology, especially me. Not only did you come here spouting off accusing RI members of not caring but I had made my OP a day before your tirade, you didn't even read the first page where you would have found TWO threads about the Palestinians, way more informative than the scant info that you spent your precious time posting about a day late and a dollar short.

so next time.....



My sincerest apologies. I looked for and didn't see the thread last night. Admittedly, I was drunk, and angry.



well then I must forgive and forget for I have at numerous times been guilty of PWSAD....posting while stupid angry drunk

If You're Wondering Why the Israel/Gaza Violence Has Exploded, Here's a Solid Explanation

Israel Escalates Gaza Attack With Assassination
November 15, 2012 · By Phyllis Bennis · Originally published in The Nation

Assassination of Hamas leader, Ahmad Jaabari, is a major escalation and primarily about Netanyanu shoring up the right-wing of his base before he faces reelection in January.

Palestinians help extinguish the fire after an Israeli air strike on the car of Hamas’s top commander, Ahmed Al-Jaabari, in Gaza City, November 14, 2012. Reuters/Stringer
Yesterday’s Egyptian-brokered cease-fire between Gaza and Israel collapsed today when Israel launched a major escalation. In airstrikes almost certainly involving US-made F-16 warplanes and/or US-made Apache helicopters, Israel’s air force assassinated Ahmad Jaabari, the longtime military leader of Hamas. As the Israeli airstrikes continued today, seven more Palestinians were killed and at least thirty were injured, ten of them critically.

Jaabari had been chief negotiator with Israel in the deal that led to the release of captured Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit in exchange for the release of more than 1,000 Palestinian political prisoners held illegally in Israeli jails. He had negotiated the cease-fire that had mostly held over much of the last year or more. The attack, code-named “Operation Pillar of Defense” [sic], also killed someone else in Jaabari’s car, and quickly expanded with additional airstrikes against Palestinian security and police stations in Gaza, making it impossible for Palestinian police to try to control the rocket-fire.

So why the escalation? Israeli military and political leaders have long made clear that regular military attacks to “cleanse” Palestinian territories (the term was used by Israeli soldiers to describe their role in the 2008-09 Israeli assault on Gaza) is part of their long-term strategic plan. Earlier this year, on the third anniversary of the Gaza assault, Israeli army Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Benny Gantz told Army Radio that Israel will need to attack Gaza again soon, to restore what he called its power of “deterrence.” He said the assault must be “swift and painful,” concluding, “we will act when the conditions are right.” Perhaps this was his chosen moment.

It is an interesting historical parallel that this escalation—which almost certainly portends a longer-term and even more lethal Israeli assault—takes place almost exactly four years after Operation Cast Lead, the last major Israeli war on Gaza, which left 1,400 Gazans dead in 2008–09. Then, as now, the attack came shortly after the US presidential elections, ending just before President Obama’s January 2009 inauguration.

But the timing for this escalation is almost certainly shaped more by Israel’s domestic politics than by the US election cycle. The most likely timeline is grounded in Netanyahu’s political calendar—he faces re-election in January, and having thoroughly antagonized many Israelis by his deliberate dissing of President Obama, needs to shore up the far-right contingent of his base. With regional pressures escalating, particularly regarding the expanding Syrian crisis, Netanyahu needs to reassure his far-right supporters (an increasing cohort) that even if he doesn’t send bombers to attack Damascus, he still can attack, bomb, assassinate Arabs with impunity.

There is a US connection, of course—however much domestic politics motivated Tel Aviv’s attack, Israel’s backers in Congress (lame-duck and newly elected) will still demand public US support for the Israeli offensive. Netanyahu will get that backing—there is no reason to think the Obama White House is prepared yet to challenge that assumption. But it’s unlikely that even Netanyanu believes it will somehow recalibrate his tense relationship with US by forcing Washington’s hand to defend Israel’s so-called “right of self-defense.” They will do that—but Obama will still be pretty pissed off at Netanyahu.

As is always the case, history is shaped by when you start the clock. In the last several days, US media accounts have reported increasing violence on the Gaza-Israel border, most of them beginning with a Palestinian attack on Israeli soldiers on Thursday, November 8. What happened before that Palestinian attack?

For starters, the soldiers, part of an Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) squad that included four tanks and a bulldozer, were inside the Gaza Strip. According to the IDF spokeswoman, Palestinians fired at “soldiers while they were performing routine activity adjacent to the security fence.” Really. What kind of activities inside the supposedly not-occupied Gaza Strip, by a group of armed soldiers, tanks and a bulldozer (almost certainly an armored Caterpillar D-9 bulldozer manufactured in the United States and paid for with US taxpayer military aid to Israel), could possibly be defined as anything close to “routine”? Unlike the illegal Palestinian rockets fired against civilian targets inside Israel, using force to resist an illegal military force in the context of a belligerent military occupation is lawful under international law.

Later that day, an 11-year-old child was killed. Israel was “investigating the boy’s death.” Not many US media outlets reported that within the next seventy-two hours the Gaza-based Palestinian Center for Human Rights documented five more Palestinians killed, including three children, and fifty-two other civilians, including six women and twelve children, wounded in Israeli airstrikes. Four of the deaths and thirty-eight injuries resulted from a single Israeli attack on a football playground in a neighborhood east of Gaza city. Twelve Israelis, four of them soldiers, were injured by Palestinian rockets fired into Israel.

The cross-border clashes continued, until Egypt was able to negotiate a ceasefire on Wednesday. Today, that fragile ceasefire was violently breached as Israel sent warplanes to assassinate a Hamas leader and destroy key parts of Gaza’s barely functional infrastructure.

This is primarily about Netanyanu shoring up the right wing of his base. And once again it is Palestinians, this time Gazans, who will pay the price. The question that remains is whether the US-assured impunity that Israel’s leadership has so long counted on will continue, or whether there will be enough pressure on the Obama administration and Congress so that this time, the United States will finally be forced to allow the international community to hold Israel accountable for this latest round of violations of international law.
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Re: Gaza: The Gates of Wrath and Sorrow Swing Open Once Agai

Postby slimmouse » Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:10 pm

FWIW, if only to let them know how many people do know, and how we know what these pathetic losers in our govts with their "democracy" rhetoric are endorsing by their shameful support of Israel. ( I think this is principally for Europeans)

http://www.avaaz.org/en/palestine_world ... db&v=19243
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Postby wintler2 » Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:32 pm

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Re: Gaza: The Gates of Wrath and Sorrow Swing Open Once Agai

Postby 8bitagent » Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:48 pm

Palestinians are terrorists, just like these people were terrorists:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto_Uprising

Oh wait...history is funny like that huh?

To speak plain, this specific latest situation was caused when Hamas struck an IDF jeep as retaliation for an earlier hit. Now, is that by classic definition "terrorism" or asymetrical warfare on a legitimate target?

Remember, in 2006 the IDF destroyed large parts of South Lebanon and killed over 1400 people all because two IDF soldiers were detained by Hezbollah. The word "inappropriate" response doesnt begin to cover it
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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:34 am

Surrealism from Paul Berton: http://www.thespec.com/opinion/columns/ ... e-beholder

This week, like many weeks, we received another letter complaining our coverage of the Middle East is biased.

The letter is printed in today’s newspaper. The article in question, by the New York Times, focused on Israel’s response to rocket attacks that originated in Gaza.

As I’ve said before, we get regular complaints from supporters of both Israelis and Palestinians on this issue. And, by the way, complaints from both Obama and Romney supporters, Liberals and Conservatives and New Democrats, union members and managers ... (It is the lot of every newspaper editor.)

Among other things, the letter writer this week complained the article by the Times incorrectly used “ferocious assault” to describe Israel’s military action, and didn’t mention soon enough that it was in response to rocket attacks by militants in Gaza.

I think that is a fair point. And honestly, I am frustrated by some of the reporting.

Indeed, another article by the Associated Press posted Friday at thespec.com could also be accused of being biased.

Under the headline, “Gaza militants target Tel Aviv with rockets for a second day” the first paragraph of the story went like this: “TEL AVIV, ISRAEL — A Palestinian rocket has targeted Tel Aviv on the third day of an Israeli military operation against the Gaza Strip.”

Again, what the story didn’t say is that the “Israeli military operation against the Gaza Strip” was predicated by more than 100 unprovoked rocket attacks that originated in Gaza.

Although I’m sure someone would take issue with my use of the word “unprovoked,” I think it is defensible given current events, but then again maybe not: hostilities there go back thousands of years, so who knows what “unprovoked” really means?

Still, most of our readers are aware the current situation began with attacks by militants in the Gaza Strip, if for no other reason than earlierstories stated that clearly.

The letter writer says: “I think it is time that Mr. Berton as well as others at the Spec learn more about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict so that facts on both sides can be fairly presented.”

It’s true I could learn more about the conflict, but I’m not sure he’d necessarily be pleased with the results. I have read many books and articles on the region, and still feel totally in the dark.

I have never lived in the Middle East, so I cannot really understand it.


Ultimately, while I admit to biases, I cannot know the facts.

This is why we rely on reporters on the ground there with wire services such as the Associated Press, the New York Times, McClatchy-Tribune Newspapers, and contributors such as today’s letter writer to report them to us for consumption, consideration and public debate.

Do some of these reports fail us? Absolutely.

Is it as a result of bias? Perhaps.

Laziness? Maybe.

Lack of space to distil a complex issue? Probably.

But I wonder if even those who reside there today — journalists or otherwise — can understand a conflict so complex and so old.


If I lived in Israel and rockets were raining down on my family, friends and compatriots, I’m quite sure I would have a different perspective on the issue. But perhaps I’d also have a different perspective if I lived in the Gaza Strip.

I have not done a study of the New York Times or the CBC or various other news organizations to discern bias in Middle East coverage, but I know that, like us, they are criticized regularly from all sides.

I liked the headline on the front page of Friday’s Spectator, which to me seemed totally unbiased, as was the accompanying Los Angeles Times story: “Slain children face of Israel, Gaza violence.”
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Postby Krysos » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:30 am

Surrealism indeed. One side has F-16's and nukes and the other side has rockets that hardly ever hit anything. The truth really isn't that hard to see sometimes. I don't know how to embed this video but if you watch it you'll see an Israeli and a Palestinian being interviewed by a BBC reporter. The interview is cut short after several LOUD explosions heard in the background from the Palestinian's feed, followed by the stream being cut off entirely. Seems pretty godamned obvious who David and who Goliath is here. Shame Alice doesn't post here anymore, she always had a unique insight into ME affairs.

http://edition.cnn.com/video/?/video/be ... y-intv.cnn
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Postby hava007 » Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:55 am

anyone can tell why the hacked servers of Israel include the "left wing" media (haaretz, news-israel.net etc.) and not the others ? also, anyone knows if FB is targeted, or weather these downfalls are made by the Israeli gov ?
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Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:48 am

Published on Saturday, November 17, 2012 by The Guardian
Stop Pretending the US is an Uninvolved, Helpless Party in the Israeli Assault on Gaza
The Obama administration's unstinting financial, military and diplomatic support for Israel is a key enabling force in the conflict

by Glenn Greenwald
A central premise of US media coverage of the Israeli attack on Gaza - beyond the fact that Israel is justifiably "defending itself" - is that this is some endless conflict between two foreign entitles, and Americans can simply sit by helplessly and lament the tragedy of it all. The reality is precisely the opposite: Israeli aggression is possible only because of direct, affirmative, unstinting US diplomatic, financial and military support for Israel and everything it does. This self-flattering depiction of the US as uninvolved, neutral party is the worst media fiction since TV news personalities covered the Arab Spring by pretending that the US is and long has been on the side of the heroic democratic protesters, rather than the key force that spent decades propping up the tyrannies they were fighting.
A Palestinian man carries a wounded child at a hospital following an Israeli air raid in Beit Lahia in the northern Gaza Strip, on November 17, 2012. (Photograph: Moiz Salhi/AFP/Getty Images)

Literally each day since the latest attacks began, the Obama administration has expressed its unqualified support for Israel's behavior. Just two days before the latest Israeli air attacks began, Obama told Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmud Abbas "that his administration opposes a Palestinian bid for non-state membership of the UN". Both the US Senate and House have already passed resolutions unequivocally supporting Israel, thus earning the ultimate DC reward: the head-pat from AIPAC, which "praised the extraordinary show of support by the Senate for Israel's struggle against terrorist attacks on its citizens". More bipartisan Congressional cheerleading is certain to come as the attacks continue, no matter how much more brutal they become.

In reflexive defense of Israel, the US government thus once against put itself squarely at odds with key nations such as Turkey (whose prime minister accused Israel of being motivated by elections and demanded that Israel be "held to account" for mounting civilians deaths), Egypt (which denounced Israeli attacks as "aggression against humanity"), and Tunisia (which called on the world to "stop the blatant aggression" of Israel).

By rather stark contrast, Obama continues to defend Israel's free hand in Gaza, causing commentators like Jeffrey Goldberg to gloat, not inaccurately: "Barack Obama hasn't turned against Israel. This is a big surprise to everyone who has not paid attention for the last four years" (indeed, there are few more compelling signs of how dumb and misleading US elections are than the fact that the only criticism of Obama on Israel heard over the last year in the two-party debate was the grievance that Obama evinces insufficient fealty - rather than excessive fealty - to the Israeli government). That the Netanyahu government knows that any attempt to condemn Israel at the UN would be instantly blocked by the US is a major factor enabling them to continue however they wish. And, of course, the bombs, planes and tanks they are using are subsidized, in substantial part, by the US taxpayer.

If one wants to defend US support for Israel on the merits - on the ground that this escalating Israeli aggression against a helpless population is just and warranted - then one should do so. As I wrote on Thursday, it's very difficult to see how those who have cheered for Obama's foreign policy could do anything but cheer for Israeli militarism, as they are grounded in the same premises.

But pretending that the US - and the Obama administration - bear no responsibility for what is taking place is sheer self-delusion, total fiction. It has long been the case that the central enabling fact in Israeli lawlessness and aggression is blind US support, and that continues, more than ever, to be the case under the presidency of the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize winner.

The US is not some neutral, uninvolved party. Whatever side of this conflict you want to defend - or if you're one of those people who love to announce that you just wish the whole thing would go away - it's still necessary to take responsibility for the key role played by the American government and this administration in enabling everything that is taking place.

Media coverage

Due to extensive travel the past few days, I've been subjected to far more television news coverage than is probably healthy, and it's just been staggering to see how tilted US media discourse is: Israeli officials and pro-Israel "experts" are endlessly paraded across the screen while Palestinian voices are exceedingly rare; the fact of the 45-year-old brutal occupation and ongoing Israeli dominion over Gaza is barely mentioned; meanwhile, every primitive rocket that falls harmlessly near Israeli soil is trumpeted with screaming headlines while the carnage and terror in Gaza is mentioned, if at all, as an afterthought. Two cartoons perfectly summarize this coverage: here and here.
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Re: Gaza: The Gates of Wrath and Sorrow Swing Open Once Agai

Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:12 am

Anonymous Hacks Israel, Declares 'All Your Base Are Belong To Us'
Posted: 11/17/2012 1:32 pm EST Updated: 11/17/2012 1:32 pm EST

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As the conflict in Gaza escalated this week, hacker group Anonymous launched a series of attacks on websites owned by the Israeli military, government and other institutions within Israel.

Dubbed "OpIsrael," the mass disruption began early Thursday with hundreds of distributed denial of service (DDoS) attacks, in which websites are flooded with traffic until they crash.

Since then, the scope of attacks has widened to include the deletion of government and financial databases, and the posting of more than 2,000 email addresses and passwords from an Israeli real estate website.

A series of tweets from @YourAnonNews, a Twitter account associated with the hacktivist group, claimed that databases belonging to Bank Jerusalem and the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs had been deleted. Echoing a famous meme originated from the video game "Zero Wing," the account declared Friday:


Anonymous@YourAnonNews
Israel, all your base are belong to us.
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A Pastebin post reported that 659 sites with Israeli domains had either been defaced, hit with DDoS attacks or otherwise affected. The Next Web reports that some of the affected sites have since been restored, but the attacks are expected to continue.

Anonymous issued a press release Nov. 15, explaining its solidarity with Gazans. It read in part:

"...[When] the government of Israel publicly threatened to sever all Internet and other telecommunications into and out of Gaza they crossed a line in the sand. As the former dictator of Egypt Mubarack learned the hard way –- we are ANONYMOUS and NO ONE shuts down the Internet on our watch..."
Another press release refuted claims that Anonymous is a cyber-terrorist organization, a charge that has been leveled against the group by the U.S. National Security Agency, as well as several mainstream media outlets.
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Re: Gaza: The Gates of Wrath and Sorrow Swing Open Once Agai

Postby chump » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:31 pm

I saw this on Aangirfan last night.

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9107119940

Locations of Hamas Leaders Identified during Qatari Emir's Recent Visit to Gaza

TEHRAN (FNA)- The residence and offices of a number of Hamas leaders were identified during the recent visit to the Gaza Strip by Qatar's King Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani and later targeted by Israeli missile and bomb attacks, informed sources disclosed.

The emir of Qatar gifted a number of watches and ballpoint pens to Hamas leaders, which transmitted low-frequency signals to Israeli satellites, the sources, who asked to remain unnamed due to the sensitivity of the information, told FNA, adding that the Israeli military officials would then use the received signals to spot and assassinate senior Hamas officials...


And this:

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/11/ ... qus_thread

War In Gaza: Why Now?
Posted on November 16, 2012 by WashingtonsBlog

Election Politics?
It was widely reported that Israel agreed to delay any war against Iran until after U.S. elections.
A little over a week after the election, Israel launched a “targeted assassination” against the leader of Hamas (who Haaretz called Israel’s subcontractor in Gaza). That is what started the current round of fighting...


A few interesting comments:

In and out of the safe room•a day ago

I think you have this one wrong. This started with the attack in Sudan - a facility supposedly funded by Iran that produced and stored longer range Fajr missiles for Hamas. What is going on here is Hamas was coming into possesion of longer range missiles that Israel viewed as a strategic threat, and this operation was undertaken to prevent this. There was also pressure building on Netanyahu to restore some sense of normalcy to life for the residents of the South of Israel, people who have been living a nightmare for far too long. While Netanyahu lost some ground in the polls recently, he was still quite a shoe-in for PM in the next election. Just weeks ago he was boasting how he avoided getting Israel involved in any wars. He was dragged into this by circumstances.
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Michael Travis a day ago
396 Hamas rockets fired into Israeli schools and homes SINCE NOV 14, 2012 . If this happened in Austin TX. you folks would be screaming and crying for a response, or maybe not.
Do you love your children? Would you sit and watch as they were bombed.... and do nothing?
Of course you would, because y'all are Statists and dittoheads.
Israel is the antithesis of globalism..... the Globalists HATE Israel... and so do you.
Birds of a feather, right.
Y'all are the 5th column of the Globalist Corporate takeover.... groveling before your owners!
At least the Israelis are independent and sovereign..... even if they are hated for it.
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Greg•a day ago

The author pretends that rockets from Gaza into Israel just started 3 days
ago.

The rockets from Gaza have been pounding southern cities and villages in
Israel for years, people have 15 secs to get into shelters - several time per
day. But every body knows it, even though western media fails to report about
this. By July 2012 there were more than 500 rockets from the beginning of the
year.
I think, that US elections did postponed/prohibited Israeli response on
those massive rocket attracts from Gaza...


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The whole World watches as the war machine revs it's engines. It's like that wreck that happens every morning on the Central Expressway... The technically advanced mental industrialists are encroaching upon the ultra traditional quixotic radicals who have nowhere else to go... (...reminds me of Texas...) One would think that the UN would step in it! Israel certainly appears to be the bully - if not a genocidal aggressor. This couldn't be a false flag could it? If their Arab neighbors are firing rockets into Israel, I can certainly see how Israel would put a stop to that! How many munitions can the Palestinians smuggle into that tiny, tightly surveilled and controlled gulag that is the Gaza strip? Can they smuggle the essentials for life instead?


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123275572295011847.html

How Israel Helped to Spawn Hamas
By ANDREW HIGGINS
Moshav Tekuma, Israel
Surveying the wreckage of a neighbor's bungalow hit by a Palestinian rocket, retired Israeli official Avner Cohen traces the missile's trajectory back to an "enormous, stupid mistake" made 30 years ago.

"Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel's creation," says Mr. Cohen, a Tunisian-born Jew who worked in Gaza for more than two decades. Responsible for religious affairs in the region until 1994, Mr. Cohen watched the Islamist movement take shape, muscle aside secular Palestinian rivals and then morph into what is today Hamas, a militant group that is sworn to Israel's destruction.

Instead of trying to curb Gaza's Islamists from the outset, says Mr. Cohen, Israel for years tolerated and, in some cases, encouraged them as a counterweight to the secular nationalists of the Palestine Liberation Organization and its dominant faction, Yasser Arafat's Fatah. Israel cooperated with a crippled, half-blind cleric named Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, even as he was laying the foundations for what would become Hamas. Sheikh Yassin continues to inspire militants today; during the recent war in Gaza, Hamas fighters confronted Israeli troops with "Yassins," primitive rocket-propelled grenades named in honor of the cleric...
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Re: Gaza: The Gates of Wrath and Sorrow Swing Open Once Agai

Postby Nordic » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:11 pm

I am actually very surprised to see this at the top of Yahoo News' page right now:

http://news.yahoo.com/medics-israel-str ... 40393.html

Medics: Israel strike kills 11 civilians in Gaza

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip (AP) — An Israeli missile flattened a two-story house in a residential neighborhood of Gaza City on Sunday, killing at least 11 civilians, mostly women and children, Palestinian medical officials said, as Israel expanded a military offensive to target homes of wanted militants.
The attack, which Israel said targeted a militant, was the single deadliest incident of the five-day-old Israeli operation and hiked a toll Sunday that was already the highest number of civilians killed in one day, according to Gaza medics. The bloodshed is likely to raise international pressure for a cease-fire, with Egypt taking the leading role in mediating between Israel and Hamas.
President Barack Obama said he had been in touch with the leaders of Israel, Egypt, and Turkey in an effort to halt the fighting. "We're going to have to see what kind of progress we can make in the next 24, 36, 48 hours," he said.
Obama cautioned against a potential Israeli ground invasion into Gaza, warning it could only deepen its death toll. At the same time, he blamed Palestinian militants for starting the round of fighting by raining rockets onto Israel, and he defended Israel's right to defend itself.
"Israel has every right to expect that it does not have missiles fired into its territory," Obama said in Thailand at the start of a three-nation tour in Asia.


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