9/11 As Mega-Ritual

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Postby Handsome B. Wonderful » Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:54 am

JackRiddler wrote:I'm sure terror futures is still happening in some form somewhere.


I really thoight it was going to happen at the London olympics. But nothing happened. It seemed to be more symbolic or ritualistic?

I never really understood 9/11 as an inside job from a purely logistical viewpoint or militaristic one. Simply because it didn't make sense. Yes it led to an invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq. Money was made and oil was begotten and the opium flowed. But, there was something more elusive about what happened on Sept. 11, 2001 that was more than prosaic. There did seem to be a more esoteric meaning behind it. Reading S.K. Bain's book really opened it up to me. It helped me understand it more, even if Bain doesn't really make a point, it does help me make more sense out of it.
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Postby kelley » Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:11 pm

Handsome B. Wonderful wrote:
I never really understood 9/11 as an inside job from a purely logistical viewpoint or militaristic one. Simply because it didn't make sense. Yes it led to an invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq. Money was made and oil was begotten and the opium flowed. But, there was something more elusive about what happened on Sept. 11, 2001 that was more than prosaic. There did seem to be a more esoteric meaning behind it.




if you're talking about the disappearance of trillions of dollars, the consolidation of power in fewer hands, and the subjugation of a global populace at varying levels of hurt, then yes, that's pretty prosaic. the esoteric parts of the 'ritual' might be the expression of a style, and little more, but the event was undoubtedly planned to communicate its messages very clearly, and to many audiences at once. at least this is how i've come to read things since. it really is beyond banal, and the motives are as old as men. if it doesn't make sense this may be because it doesn't have to beyond that simple fact.
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Re: 9/11 As Mega-Ritual

Postby Metric Pringle » Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:52 pm

As the saying goes, everything changed after sept 11. I have always felt it as some form magik, but never grasped it really. I have now been in bolivia for a few months, and after just a week or so, i realised just how subjugated we are in all the terror paranoid hotspots, and forgot just how oppressive things have become. I have no general sense of paranoia I had in London, the sense of being watched constantly, of being stopped by police for whatever reason, of suspicious looks that get thrown around generally on the tube, searches before entering establishments, etc etc. The whole sept 11 effect just isnt here. Its amazing.

And for magic, bolivia is extreme. I have heard stories of builders and architects working together to get a homeless person and get them drunk and bury them in the foundation of the building in order to give it strength. Of a guy asking a brujo to get his girl to love him as she was pretty care free about their relationshiop. He nailed two tortoises together and threw them in the lake, she then apparently got obsessed about him ( a story of course, who knows). Of the "caso de sapo"... where this clinic can see the signs of a case of a toad case, whereby a toad has its four limbs stretched apart and nailed down, with salt chucked on it over the course of a week, slowly killing it, and the cursed person in question not being able to be helped in the hospital, so they call in this certain brujo to sort it out as they can´t do anything. All stories I hear, constantly. It´s in the air all around you. Interesting to really see it´s mechanism here after reading on RI about black magik and so on. I personally think that much of it is a self fullfilling prophecy in which these rituals act as a tool of realisation. Essentially, I have never felt better being out of London and the whole terrorism shit, and will make sure I pay even less attention to it on my return, if i return. So I guess Im saying, dont give them the weight to their fucked up rituals and help them realise them.
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Re: 9/11 As Mega-Ritual

Postby conniption » Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:46 am

Handsome B. Wonderful - that's a great name. ^^

This evening, I stumbled across 9/11 As Mass Ritual, at Amazon (while researching Peter Levenda, who keeps writing books whether I be paying attention or not and he's a contributor on this one.)

A couple of things I thought might be of interest in the review/comment section, although I haven't read through all of them yet. Maybe you've already seen this.

A link to The Lost Chapter, which, idk...take it for what it's worth. Can't say S. K. Bain is someone I resonate with.

But I did appreciate the following review very much and many of the responses, including one from the author, Bain, himself.

(Sorry it's so long.)

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3.0 out of 5 stars an important subject, but a troublesome treatment,
October 31, 2012

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This review is from: The Most Dangerous Book in the World: 9/11 as Mass Ritual (Paperback)

I gave this book three stars for two reasons. The first reason, on the positive side, is that if you're unfamiliar with so-called 'occult' symbolism, this book is an easy to read, entertaining, and interesting introduction to the fact that this kind of symbolism does exist and has been used in staged terrorist attacks (as well as in spectacles like Olympic ceremonies and sports half-time shows) in an attempt to influence the subconscious minds of the public. I think it's important for as many people as possible to become *aware* of this phenomenon, because awareness is the first necessary step in the process of empowering ourselves so that we are no longer susceptible to being controlled by this kind of manipulation. But if you have noticed that interpretations of this kind of symbolism tend to emphasize their supposed 'demonic' or 'satanic' connotations almost exclusively, then you may find the explanation for this, which follows, interesting.

The second reason for the three-star rating reflects what I see as the negative side of this book. Mr. Bain understands that an important part of the plan following events that have a 'mind control' aspect, is to control the story that researchers will later use to explain the meaning of the symbolism to the public, because that explanation becomes part of the indoctrination process that the controllers of media can then keep perpetuating over time. The intent is to spin the story in as negative a way as possible in order to demoralize the public and make them feel powerless. I know that Mr. Bain understands this aspect of the plan because he wrote about it in his book. But in spite of being aware of this, he makes no apparent effort to avoid translating the symbolism in what can only be described as a disempowering way, and even seems to me to go out of his way to find negative interpretations of the symbols, which is exactly what the controllers who want to capitalize on the event are hoping for.

Please don't misunderstand the argument I'm making here. I think killing innocent people and terrorizing millions of others is a completely evil thing to do, no matter what your 'reason' is for doing it. But the symbols that are used as the 'mind control' part of the plan are not negative in themselves -- they have both positive and negative meanings and feelings attached to them. In order for the perpetrators to get across their intended meaning, which is usually intended to appear negative, they have to use symbols that already exist and resonate in our unconscious minds. And the symbols they use, like all symbols, also stand for very positive things. There's no way for them to avoid that fact except to try to spin the interpretation after the event to try to make it seem as negative as possible.

Because this reality is not just randomly organized, but is full of meaning in its structure and in the way it unfolds through time, when you choose a series of symbols with the intent of communicating a coherently 'evil' message, the symbols you use will necessarily, at the same time, communicate an equally coherent *positive* message. The unconscious mind is completely aware of both the positive and negative aspects of the message. It is only our *conscious* minds that may not be able to perceive the positive meaning because we are emotionally traumatized by the suffering associated with the event and can only think of it in negative terms. This is exactly what the controllers count on in order to make sure that we consciously receive only *their* chosen, deliberately negative message.

I have no way to determine whether or not Mr. Bain is knowingly participating in the effort to publicize the most negative message possible. But there does seem to be a pattern in his interpretations that favors the negative. For example, he cherry-picks two philosophically and psychologically dated William Wescott quotes from the 1880s and uses them as part of his 'proof' that both 9 and 11 are "most evil" numbers, implying that they are somehow fatally flawed in their essence, regardless of their context (an idea that I believe no enlightened qabalist today would accept as valid). Then he uses a quote from Aleister Crowley stating that the number 11 is 'magical', and combines the two sources to claim that every time the numbers 9/11 are heard or seen, the unconscious mind interprets this to mean "evil magic". He uses the phrase "evil magic" repeatedly, as if to make sure it registers. There might eventually be something to this interpretation if people like Mr. Bain insist on translating every symbol related to the attacks solely in terms of evil and Satanism, but if that happens, it will simply be a propaganda effect with nothing 'occult' about it.

If you consult a competent, present day student of metaphysics or numerology, you will find that the number 9 actually represents the end of a cycle. This meaning is obvious in the number sequence itself. The number 0 represents the clean slate before anything happens, the number 1 starts something, 2 through 8 continue it in various different ways (which we won't go into here), and the number 9 'mops up' in preparation for the beginning of the next cycle. The new cycle represents the same sequence but expressed on a higher level, which changes the meaning of the original numbers and in fact makes them more potent. Once again we have a 0, but this time preceded by a 1, giving us two digits instead of just one, to make 10, which to a qabalist represents 'completion'. The number 11, a powerfully creative 'Master Number', initiates the new cycle *on a higher dimension*. These elementary, fundamental meanings of the numbers are also confirmed by the functions they serve within the Qabalah and the Tarot, neither of which considers *any* component of its metaphysics to be fatally flawed or purely evil.

You may be familiar with the fact that in the context of computer programming, you can't fix a problem from the same level where the problem is occurring; it's just not possible. You have to go to the level at which you can change the programming that's creating the error. This is exactly where we now stand in the context of this reality. We're transitioning from one level of conscious awareness to a more insightful and powerful one where we will have the ability to *change the programming* within our own consciousness and remove the root causes that have been creating all the problems (or at least most of them). The 9/11 attacks may have allowed a certain level or faction of the 'control system' to perpetrate a war that no one but war profiteers and the controllers themselves wanted, but that victory on their part came at a serious price: the unconscious, positive side of the symbolic message that was conveyed by 9/11 also began to *wake people up*. Now you understand why those who desperately want to hang onto their illegitimate power, are so determined to make sure that all of us think of 9/11 only in terms of 'evil', 'Satanism', and the 'invincibility' of the controllers.

There is nothing 'evil' about the number 9 or about the ending of a cycle, especially if you consider the sorry state we find ourselves in at the end of this particular cycle. After 6,000 years of patriarchy, the dominance of left-brain consciousness has allowed the ego's will-to-power to reach a point of imbalance that is now life-threateningly destructive. The turning of the Great Year into Aquarius, under the influence of the Great Awakener, Uranus and the Qabala's 'Great Mother Binah', also known as Saturn, brings with it the right-brain ability to expand consciousness into increased awareness of both the intuitive super-conscious, and the symbolic subconscious realms. This expansion of awareness greatly reduces the ego/intellect's ability to project its own dark subconscious material out into the world to make innocent others into perceived 'enemies'. This hidden projection process, of which most people have been completely unaware, has been the key factor that has allowed the controllers to manipulate us into wars, but that time is coming to an end.

There are positive, inspiring interpretations for all of the symbols that Mr. Bain cites in his book, but I'll only mention a few. On one level, the twin towers are an ancient symbol of the boundaries between dimensions of consciousness -- the subconscious, ego consciousness, and the super-conscious. You can see these towers represented at strategic points in the symbolic progression of the Tarot Trumps. And on another level they specifically represent the way that intellectual ego consciousness (Gemini, 'the twins', in astrology) sees everything in terms of pairs of opposites (which is the basis of the projection process that gets us into wars). Both of these symbolic meanings have been used in metaphysical systems for hundreds, if not thousands of years, and their thought-forms in the collective unconscious are powerful. The Masonic pillars, Jachin and Boaz are just one representation of this symbolism.

But that brings up another curious fact. Mr. Bain interprets the symbolism of 9/11 as an 'ode to Aleister Crowley', whose own symbolic sensibility was rooted in Gematria and the Qabalah, which is also the basis of much Masonic symbolism. And yet the structures targeted, which almost certainly *intentionally* reflect (or reflected) this qabalistic, secret society, Masonic symbolism, *were destroyed* (in the case of the WTC). In the case of the pentagon, the structural integrity of its magical, protective 'pentgram' shape was breached, symbolic of a fatally compromised state in the context of magical operations. The targets could easily be seen to represent two masculine qabalistic powers: Mars (masculine aggression/Pentagon) and Mercury (left-brain rational intellect/commerce/WTC). Both of these powers have been perverted by the suppression of the feminine feeling nature, to create corruption and destruction at a global level.

The most likely explanation for this targeting of icons representing symbolically masculine, Masonic/qabalistic powers can be discerned from the symbols evoked by the incident, cited by Bain, involving New York-bound Korean Air Lines Flight 85. Just before entering Canadian air space, Flight 85 was (inexplicably) instructed by FAA controllers in Alaska to activate its signal to display a hijacking distress code, even though ground control was aware at the time that all was well on the plane. The plane was rerouted by NORAD to land 1,000 miles further east at Whitehorse International Airport even though, as Bain notes, the plane was running low on fuel.

So what was that about? Bain notes that 85 is the number of the path of Peh on the Qabalistic Tree, but doesn't explain that this path requires that a balance be achieved between the left-brain powers of Mercury, at the left end of the path, and the right-brain powers of Venus, at the right end of the path. The Tarot Trump assigned to this path is The Lightning-Struck Tower, as Bain notes. But he doesn't provide the deeper background to the Crowley quote he gives on the number 85, "even the highest unity, if it move or energize, means War". The lightning that strikes the Tower represents "the highest unity", which is a balanced energy being expressed through the energy of Mars, to purify anything that is out-of-balance and therefore inadequate to conduct the Divine creative energy which, with the advent of the Aquarian Age, is coming through the Feminine aspect of the Godhead, Binah/Saturn. The 'war' is, therefore, directed against all unbalanced structures, and in our time, this is largely those that exclude or disempower the feminine. The Tower representing Gemini/left brain dominance is struck because it is unbalanced and must be replaced by a structure that can integrate the right-brain powers of Venus.

The fact that the 'twin towers' are being replaced by a single tower that, near its middle, forms a perfect octagon, as well as incorporating eight tall isosceles triangles alternately pointing upwards and downwards, is certainly interesting since, in addition to symbolizing the integration of duality and unity, it immediately evokes the symbol of the eight-pointed Star, which is represented in the 17th Tarot Trump. The card represents a large eight-pointed star surrounded by seven smaller stars, above the figure of a woman who is pouring out water onto the land and into a pool (earth and water, the two feminine elements), which makes her a kind of feminine version of the 'man with the water jar', the traditional symbol for the sign of Aquarius. The stars bring in the element of fire, and Aquarius is an air sign, so this symbolism represents a profound state of synthesis and completion.

The Star card is assigned to the Path of Tzaddi which means fishhook (reminiscent of the symbolic "fishers of men" of the previous Piscean Age) and the sign qabalistically associated with Tzaddi is Aquarius. The Path connects the two human-level feminine qabalistic powers: the Moon, symbolic of the unconscious mind, the Divine aspect of human sexuality, and the nurturing aspect of the Feminine, including the emotional connection with Mother Earth; and Venus, symbolic of everything that is beautiful, true, balanced, and just (Libra), as well as a conscious connection with the feeling nature which supports positive relationships and a healthy respect for and enjoyment of our physical bodies and the beauty of the natural world. That's what you might call a prescription to heal the wounds inflicted by an out-of-control patriarchy and restore the lost balance which is necessary to create harmony. Because of its association with the sign of Aquarius and the previously suppressed feminine powers, The Star card is considered by many to be the key symbol of the dawning Aquarian Age.

Returning to the symbolism of Flight 85, Bain relates the symbol of the 'white horse' to heroin, based on an Ozzy Osbourne song lyric which, entertaining as it may be, seems like a bit of a stretch in terms of the impact it might be expected to have on the collective unconscious. But he overlooks what I consider to be a key clue. There are two organizations that assign letter codes to airlines, the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO), which assigns a three-letter code, and the International Air Transport Association (IATA) which assigns a two-letter code. The designation of Korean Airlines Flight 85 would have been KAL85 (ICAO code) and KE85 (IATA code).

What's the first association you have to somebody who rides a white horse? It's the 'good guy', of course. And chief among the expected 'good guys' of our time is the symbolic Avatar of the coming age, whose symbol is the white horse, who will appear, as the Hindu scriptures tell us, at a time "when the rulers of the earth will have degenerated into plunderers" -- doesn't that sound about right? And what is the name of this symbolic figure? Kalki (or KAL-KE, close enough in my book).

I'm not saying that we should consider the killing of innocent people to be an acceptable act on the part of 'good guys', although in war situations, there have certainly been times when the unacceptable may seem unavoidable. It's possible that the final form of 9/11 may have been the result of a power struggle between two factions of would-be controllers, or the result of actions taken by a covert group within the planning faction. The targeting of structures symbolically representing degenerate, unbalanced, patriarchal war-mongering may have been influenced by a more magically sophisticated group that might be considered, at the very least, the lesser of two evils, if not a real-world, imperfect version of the iconic 'good guys'.

The planned excuse for war may have assumed a more serious symbolic and magical form than the less mystically inclined of the planning faction either anticipated or were equipped to understand before the fact (for that matter, some of the likely suspects may still not understand it). There may have been more chaos involved than the original planners intended, and they may have been scrambling ever since to put a good face on it (i.e., "I *meant* to do that"). That idea has a certain intuitive resonance for me.

There doesn't seem to be a truly negative message contained in the 'white horse' incident, and could whoever took the trouble to arrange it really have been oblivious to the obvious positive symbolism it contains? It seems unlikely to me. But what is certain is that "the highest unity" works in mysterious ways -- through the acts of the just and the unjust alike -- to achieve its highest purpose, and that purpose is not 'evil'.

So buy this book if you think it might help you to understand how various people (notably advertisers and corporations, though that is not covered in the book) use hidden symbolism to influence you ('occult' simply means 'hidden'). Or watch Michael Tsarion's videos on symbolism on Youtube. But don't let the negative tone of the interpretation that is presented by Mr. Bain get you down. There is significantly more to this symbolism and to this story than this particular book recognizes.

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Initial post: Oct 31, 2012 11:30:06 AM PDT

Kent Bain says:

As the author of the book, my intent was to convey how the orchestrators of 9/11 would have viewed and utilized the involved symbols. I realize, and acknowledge in various places in the book, that the symbols, numbers, etc., do have (in most instances) a variety of meanings, depending on the perspective/inclinations of those utilizing them. I did not feel that it was within the scope of the book to present this diversity of thought in detail, however.

The reviewer makes a number of interesting points, and I respect the differing opinions to which he is entitled. Without engaging in a point-by-point refutation of those issues on which we disagree, I would remind the reader that the point of the book is to emphasize the negative aspects/interpretations of these occult tools and how these tools were employed on 9/11 in a massive work of dark magic/psychological warfare. As I state in the book, "Symbols don't kill people; people with symbols kill people."

One would also do well to keep in mind the following quote from Aleister Crowley: "In this book it is spoken of the Sephiroth, and the Paths, of Spirits and Conjurations; of Gods, Spheres, Planes, and many other things which may or may not exist. It is immaterial whether they exist or not. By doing certain things certain results follow; students are most earnestly warned against attributing objective reality or philosophic validity to any of them."

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Hesper79 says:

Thank you for your response. Yes, I noticed that quote, and also the key place in it of the phrase "objective reality", a concept which metaphysicians and students of consciousness (along with scientists and philosophers) have often considered to be problematic. Like everyone else, Crowley was entitled to his opinion, but "by doing certain things, certain results follow" would not be true unless the Tree, as a spiritual tool, reflects the structure of the human psyche, and therefore the nature of our experienced reality, closely enough to allow the exercise of the imagination and will in accordance with that structure to produce effective, observable results.

The Tree, as a tool, is of course neutral, and its positive use has been the basis of the work of beneficial organizations devoted to spiritual development for many centuries now. In our time, its symbols appear to have been appropriated by a group, or groups, who believe they can use this tool, through the agency of mass media, to manipulate consciousness in a way that demoralizes and disempowers others for their own illegitimate gain. Once we become aware that this is the situation that we face, I think it's important for us to realize that a 'magician' attempting to work in this negative way may intend to accomplish evil and apparently succeed, and yet that evil *at the same time* will also accomplish good. This is the enigma of evil, as Goethe realized:

Faust: So, therefore, who are you?
Mephistopheles: A party to that power that always wills the Evil, and ever creates the Good.

With so much of the media now apparently in the hands of those who find it in their best interest to promote the 'evil' nature of these symbols, I think it's important not to lose sight of the fact that this negative appearance is a deliberately and artificially manipulated illusion. Since it has been my experience that it is in the nature of the energies of the psyche, as it is in the nature of the body, to seek balance in order to heal itself, I suggest that the present imbalance and the illusion of negativity that it has created will naturally, and through its own momentum, evoke the compensating forces necessary to dispel the illusion and restore balance.

My intent in pointing out the positive side of the symbols and the story, is simply to encourage others to realize that we don't have to just passively accept the negative interpretation being so widely promoted by those who would use it as a means of control, but that it is possible for us to actually take up our personal power by becoming aware of and aligning our consciousness with the positive side of the symbolic message. The greater the number of people who can be encouraged to take this more empowered stance, the more quickly the necessary corrective process will proceed. I appreciate the opportunity your book has given me to offer this less widely known, alternative view.

I found your book a very interesting read, in spite of the reservations that I have described.


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Re: 9/11 As Mega-Ritual

Postby Handsome B. Wonderful » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:11 pm

MASS ritual. How could I be so wrong? lol. Mega-ritual, what was I thinking? My brother is reading it now, so I didn't have it handy. Guess I could've googled for the right title.
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Re: 9/11 As Mega-Ritual

Postby Hammer of Los » Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:12 pm

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Very wise words from Hesper79.

Thanks for that conniption.

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Re: 9/11 As Mega-Ritual

Postby Julian the Apostate » Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:31 pm

conniption wrote:
The fact that the 'twin towers' are being replaced by a single tower that, near its middle, forms a perfect octagon, as well as incorporating eight tall isosceles triangles alternately pointing upwards and downwards, is certainly interesting since, in addition to symbolizing the integration of duality and unity, it immediately evokes the symbol of the eight-pointed Star, which is represented in the 17th Tarot Trump. The card represents a large eight-pointed star surrounded by seven smaller stars, above the figure of a woman who is pouring out water onto the land and into a pool (earth and water, the two feminine elements), which makes her a kind of feminine version of the 'man with the water jar', the traditional symbol for the sign of Aquarius. The stars bring in the element of fire, and Aquarius is an air sign, so this symbolism represents a profound state of synthesis and completion.

The Star card is assigned to the Path of Tzaddi which means fishhook (reminiscent of the symbolic "fishers of men" of the previous Piscean Age) and the sign qabalistically associated with Tzaddi is Aquarius. The Path connects the two human-level feminine qabalistic powers: the Moon, symbolic of the unconscious mind, the Divine aspect of human sexuality, and the nurturing aspect of the Feminine, including the emotional connection with Mother Earth; and Venus, symbolic of everything that is beautiful, true, balanced, and just (Libra), as well as a conscious connection with the feeling nature which supports positive relationships and a healthy respect for and enjoyment of our physical bodies and the beauty of the natural world. That's what you might call a prescription to heal the wounds inflicted by an out-of-control patriarchy and restore the lost balance which is necessary to create harmony. Because of its association with the sign of Aquarius and the previously suppressed feminine powers, The Star card is considered by many to be the key symbol of the dawning Aquarian Age.



That's pretty cool. I view the Star card as one of the most good-natured cards in the deck. If you could boil it down to one word, it would be Hope. Even if the general gist of a reading is very bad, the Star shines a little light of Hope on the whole thing.

I would like to know more about any sacred geometrical or numerological symbolism in the freedom tower. Maybe there is Hope...
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Re: 9/11 As Mega-Ritual

Postby Julian the Apostate » Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:34 pm

OK so not sure if anyone will remember this...

But on this board a while back, someone posted some lines about 9-11. It must have been someone's tag line or something because I saw it more than once. Maybe it was words to a song or a poem. But I can't remember if it was before the board switched over from the old format...

Anyway it went something like this:

"There must be something about the number eleven
Like flight XX and XX
Hit a pentagram and a giant eleven"

That was it, wish I could remember more. Anyway I thought it was very poignant.
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Re: 9/11 As Mega-Ritual

Postby cptmarginal » Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:49 pm

8bitagent has posted something along those lines on many occasions, it was maybe him. That should be 93 and 77 to complete the rhyme, since 11 three times doesn't sound as good. But it does add up to 33.
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Re: 9/11 As Mega-Ritual

Postby cptmarginal » Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:02 pm

JackRiddler wrote:I'm sure terror futures is still happening in some form somewhere.


I strongly remember reading an article a while back talking about this, that it really is still happening in a different form. Just can't find the link.

Oh wait, it was just this:

America's top spies go up against a crowd

"Participants in the project give their best guesses on whether the Free Syrian Army will gain control of Aleppo, for example, or whether Kim Jong Un will resign as the leader of North Korea before April 1, 2013, according to project websites."
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Re: 9/11 As Mega-Ritual

Postby Julian the Apostate » Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:00 pm

cptmarginal wrote:8bitagent has posted something along those lines on many occasions, it was maybe him. That should be 93 and 77 to complete the rhyme, since 11 three times doesn't sound as good. But it does add up to 33.



Yes that must be it, thank you. I wonder where the lines came from. Maybe he made them up
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Re: 9/11 As Mega-Ritual

Postby elfismiles » Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:52 pm

I read Bain's book and found it very curious ... :hrumph

In the book Bain writes about the numbers of the planes and their connection to Crowley and Thelema; he's not the first to note those connections. And I'd say that's one of my dislikes about the book, the lack of sourcing the numerous ideas he espouses in the book which did not originate with him. There are some source notes, I think. But not for the various ideas he recycles from others like this particular instance.

And yes, twas likely 8bitagent who wrote the words Julian is remembering.

Also, RE: Terror Futures... Max Keiser's "Virtual Specialist Technology" reminds me of this...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Keiser
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_Stock_Exchange

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Re: 9/11 As Mega-Ritual

Postby pinetrees » Thu Mar 07, 2013 6:38 pm

This video series presents a very clear analysis of 9/11 as ritual.

Definitely worth watching, imo.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vkwBjLG1ULA

I don't know how to embed the video, if someone can tell me how, i'll add it in.
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Re: 9/11 As Mega-Ritual

Postby elfismiles » Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:52 pm

pinetrees wrote:This video series presents a very clear analysis of 9/11 as ritual.

Definitely worth watching, imo.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vkwBjLG1ULA

I don't know how to embed the video, if someone can tell me how, i'll add it in.


Howdy PineTrees.

When you compose your post, up where there are all those buttons for B bolding, i italics, u underline, there are also buttons for video, such as the second to the last button which says youtube. If you mouse over these buttons they should give you a hint of what they do and how to use them. For example, when you mouse over the youtube button you should see text near your cursor which says "Insert YouTube Video ID# - Example: [youtube][/youtube]" ... where the data between the youtube bracket/tags corresponds with what the character string from the youtube clip you found, like so:

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[youtube]vkwBjLG1ULA[/youtube]




You can even make a video link begin playback at a specific loaction by adding #t= and then the minutes and seconds where you want it to start. So for example with the video you linked to, you can make it start playing right at the point they start talking about 911, at the 7 minute 36 second mark by adding #t=7m36s like so:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkwBjLG1ULA#t=7m36s
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Re: 9/11 As Mega-Ritual

Postby 8bitagent » Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:28 am

The first time I had heard of the occult connection to 9/11 was from someone I used to chat with online who was big into I guess 'esoterica'. One late night chat, I was talking about neocon this, WTC7 that, blah blah. And they said
they felt the event had more of the trappings of a 'black brotherhood' event. Blackest magick. But I had also come across Jake Kotze's views of 9/11 as "sync". The idea of sync is interesting. As kids we learn of the Lincoln/JFK syncs. It doesn't really mean anything beyond the universe having a sense of humor.

If one is to go the route of fanatical Muslims...
Even from just a historical point, the Twin Towers were intentionally built with holy Islamic designs. And Yamamoto was the Saudi Bin Laden's "Michael Jordan" or star architect.
So just there is kind of shows how incestuous it all is. http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/cult ... merce.html

Julian the Apostate wrote:OK so not sure if anyone will remember this...

But on this board a while back, someone posted some lines about 9-11. It must have been someone's tag line or something because I saw it more than once. Maybe it was words to a song or a poem. But I can't remember if it was before the board switched over from the old format...

Anyway it went something like this:

"There must be something about the number eleven
Like flight XX and XX
Hit a pentagram and a giant eleven"

That was it, wish I could remember more. Anyway I thought it was very poignant.


Oh it's from Jeff's blog, I can't find the entry but it was a quote that opened an old entry. I think JFK was mentioned in it.
It was just a few short lines quote from somewhere.
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