Police search for shooter on grounds of Washington Navy Yard

[parel]

[8bitagent]

"This is no drill", heh.

Well people's personalities are so fake in the modern period, particularly those with money or in the media light, that I can see how the "crisis actor" conspiracy angle of the last year has
taken root. (dovetailing off the "Harley 9/11 guy" meme) And lord knows there's been countless, countless examples of provable crisis actor fakery(Saddam statue, state of emergency Bush photo ops, etc)
But I just question the notion of using "crisis actors", if these are indeed some sort of black ops, when people's natural reaction to asymmetrical horror would be enough

[8bitagent]

This comes out this week

[Ben D]

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/world/2013/09/17/Washington-Navy-Yard-gunman-Aaron-Alexis-had-troubled-past-.html

Washington Navy Yard gunman Aaron Alexis had ‘troubled past’

Tuesday, 17 September 2013


A combination photo shows Aaron Alexis, believed responsible for the shootings. (Reuters)

Aaron Alexis, the man accused of killing a dozen people at the Washington Navy Yard on Monday, was described as a decorated sailor with a troubled past.

The FBI released images of Alexis late on Monday, after he was killed in a gunfight with police.
Security officials have not yet speculated as to a motive for the shooting, which also left several people injured.

The two photos released showed a bald-headed Alexis, an African-American man who weighed about 190 pounds and stood at 6’1 feet, according to Agence France-Presse.

Alexis, born in New York, served in the military from 2007 until 2011, the U.S. Navy said.

According to AFP reports, Alexis, 34, once told police he suffered from an anger-fueled blackout when he shot out a car’s tires, but was also known as a quiet man who meditated regularly at a Buddhist temple in Texas and had taught himself to speak Thai.

“There is definitely a pattern of misconduct during his service,” a U.S. military officer, who spoke on condition of anonymity, told AFP.
The officer did not yet know if Alexis had been dishonorably discharged, but his record was clean enough to get hired at an HP subcontractor called The Experts, which worked on the Navy and Marine Corps’s Intranet.

Three years before he enlisted, Alexis was arrested in Seattle for shooting out the tires of a car parked near his grandmother’s house after construction workers had “disrespected him.”
He told police that he could not remember firing the Glock .45 caliber handgun until about an hour afterward, according to a Seattle police report.
Alexis explained to detectives that he was in New York during the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 and described “how those events had disturbed him.”

Detectives later spoke with his father, who told them his son’s “anger management problems” were due to post-traumatic stress disorder and that he had been an “active participant in rescue attempts” after the attacks.
“From the outside, he was a quiet person,” J. Sirun, an assistant to the monks at the Buddhist temple Alexis attended in Texas, told the Washington Post.

“But on the inside, I think he was very aggressive. He did not like to be close with anybody, like a soldier who has been at war.”

“I didn’t think he could be this violent,” Sirun said. “I would not have been surprised to hear he had committed suicide. But I didn’t think he could commit murder.”

A former roommate who described Alexis as his “best friend” was shocked by the news.

“I don’t think he’d do this,” Nutpisit Suthamtewakul, owner of Happy Bowl Thai, told the Fort Worth Star Telegram.

“He has a gun, but I don’t think he’s that stupid. He didn’t seem aggressive to me.”

No second shooter

Meanwhile investigators have found no evidence of a second suspect in the shooting spree at the Washington Navy Yard.

“We have continued to pursue the possibility of there being another shooter but we don’t have any evidence, any indication, at this stage that there was another shooter,” Washington Mayor Vincent Gray said, according to Reuters news agency.

[RocketMan]

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/09/16/p ... rd-attack/

Authorities in Washington D.C. said Monday night they were confident that slain suspect Aaron Alexis had no help in a mass shooting at the Washington Navy Yard, the Washington Post reported.

“We are comfortable we have the single and sole person responsible for the loss of life on the base today,” Police Chief Cathy Lanier said at a press conference Monday night, explaining that her department had gone through “all means that we have available” investigating the possibility of a second shooter in the attack. Alexis was killed by security after allegedly killing 12 people during the shooting.

She doth protest too much...? Though it's good to tread lightly where Alex Jones hath trod.

[mulebone]

Perhaps, even worse. It's also strange seeing young people who know about conspiracies, corporate realities, and the horrors of war still end up enlisting with the "well, I was looking at my life options and"....
Darwin Award goes to anyone who died or got injured in modern lie based wars.

Maybe you're completely unaware of this simple fact of life but young folks aren't exactly fountains of wisdom. They rarely realize that there are no free rides & that you will eventually pay for every action you undertake. They are woefully ignorant of those pesky long term consequences. Start smoking when you're a teeny bopper & you'll quite likely be spitting blood when you're a 50ish slobber. Be a chick magnet football jock as a youngster & you'll quite likely feel the bones in your knees rubbing together as they long for the absentee cartilage when you're a can't run a block oldster. Idealistically shuffle into the military right out of high school & you'll most likely be consumed with toxic guilt as you dejectedly shuffle into the tomb.

It's quite strange how idealism & ignorance dance such an attractive tango together.

But then, marketers & advertisers have recognized this for decades. That's why the youth culture has lasted as long as it has. Youngsters make nice eager & credulous consumers. They also prove to be an excellent crow bar that's particularly adept at prying open ma & pa's wallet.

Anyway, are chemistry obsessed/physics loving/psychology studying college dinks any better?

While the average enlistee grunt is little more than a well meaning tool, the science nerds are the ones who make the chemical weapons & the biological weapons & the atomic weapons & the mind manipulation weapons. Unlike the enlistee grunt the science nerd is usually well compensated for his efforts. After all, the same over-educated yahoos who created the programs that allow all of this gooey imaginary social interaction to occur are the same over-educated yahoos who created the programs that data mine all of this gooey social interaction looking for dissent & crime & new customers to sell cheap shit to.

Oh, like Al Einstein, they write nice impassioned letters against the weaponizing of their intellectual treasures & they march in photogenic but ultimately meaningless rallies & demonstrations but the letters don't disguise the fact that bright folk aren't really that quick on the uptake.

[Joao]

Some great, brutal posts in this thread.

[SonicG]

Well said Mulebone...I was tempted to make a similar comment...Winning a supposed Social Darwinism Award really isn't related to actual human evolution. Quite the opposite, I'd say...

[Nordic]

Some great, brutal posts in this thread.

That's why I come here, especially during/after events such as these -- just the 2 posts by KeenInsight and Mulebone alone were worth the price of admission. Oh wait, there is no price. Thanks, Jeff.

(everyone else's comments were great, too, just those two struck me with the most force thus far)

But yeah, where else are you gonna find such insight? I don't know of any place else.

[stefano]

Running amok is now definitely ingrained in US culture. An accepted suicide method. Feeble not to use a knife like the Malays though.

[justdrew]

that looks like the old Mac font, "Chicago"

message sent?

[8bitagent]

Maybe you're completely unaware of this simple fact of life but young folks aren't exactly fountains of wisdom. They rarely realize that there are no free rides & that you will eventually pay for every action you undertake. They are woefully ignorant of those pesky long term consequences. Start smoking when you're a teeny bopper & you'll quite likely be spitting blood when you're a 50ish slobber. Be a chick magnet football jock as a youngster & you'll quite likely feel the bones in your knees rubbing together as they long for the absentee cartilage when you're a can't run a block oldster. Idealistically shuffle into the military right out of high school & you'll most likely be consumed with toxic guilt as you dejectedly shuffle into the tomb.

It's quite strange how idealism & ignorance dance such an attractive tango together.

But then, marketers & advertisers have recognized this for decades. That's why the youth culture has lasted as long as it has. Youngsters make nice eager & credulous consumers. They also prove to be an excellent crow bar that's particularly adept at prying open ma & pa's wallet.

Anyway, are chemistry obsessed/physics loving/psychology studying college dinks any better?

While the average enlistee grunt is little more than a well meaning tool, the science nerds are the ones who make the chemical weapons & the biological weapons & the atomic weapons & the mind manipulation weapons. Unlike the enlistee grunt the science nerd is usually well compensated for his efforts. After all, the same over-educated yahoos who created the programs that allow all of this gooey imaginary social interaction to occur are the same over-educated yahoos who created the programs that data mine all of this gooey social interaction looking for dissent & crime & new customers to sell cheap shit to.

Oh, like Al Einstein, they write nice impassioned letters against the weaponizing of their intellectual treasures & they march in photogenic but ultimately meaningless rallies & demonstrations but the letters don't disguise the fact that bright folk aren't really that quick on the uptake.

Never got into smoking, sports or dated in high school but I get your point. The one good thing I can say about being raised Jehovah's witness is that at an extremely young age I was taught to view war and the military with loathing. Knowing what we know about these sickeningly elective post 9/11 wars, how young people can still enlist is bizarre to me. People criticized Bush, Clinton, etc for being "draft dodgers", I'm like those are some of the only good things I can respect about them. There's a brilliant episode of the Simpsons from 2006 that makes fun of how pervasive propaganda military recruitment aimed at youth has become. Then again I was always lazy and against authority so even if red communist troops were descending into small towns and I was drafted I would be too spineless to join.

"Youngsters make nice eager & credulous consumers"....no more apparent to me than now, with virtually every teen and twenty somethinger face buried in smart phones all day now. I don't think the trendoid youth of today would gel too well with 60's era anti war, feminist and civil rights protestors. Millions marching and mass civil disobedience has been reduced to a few people brave enough to facebook share and reblog current event picture memes.

The only good thing I can say is that unlike in 2003, most people won't get on your case for strong anti war or anti authority views...heck given noone wanted Obama's war, I would say it's a complete reverse from 2003 popular sentiment. And you're right, it absolutely is often the brightest who can bring about the most evil on a wide scale. People always talked in whispered awe tones of reverence regarding "The Manhattan Project". I'm like, fuck the manhattan project. It was a big group effort to mass murder a good portion of innocent Japanese civilians. And to me the most infuriating part about "modern warfare", is the Wired magazine tech trendoid drone war porn era. Left leaning hot shots who may vote for liberal social policies working toward more technology to slaughter innocent people who don't look like Americans half a world away as well as the social acceptance of said drone technology.

[82_28]

Mulebone, where were you when I needed something along those lines to back me up in the Miley Cyrus thread?

I find it interesting that the DC Sniper, this character and (NOT TO DRAW EQUIVALENCE) Obama all have these strange shadowy links with Seattle. Go ahead and draw equivalence if you want. I just find it strange as they seem to provoke a hotbed of racial issues where there was not one before.

Not to mention these other notable Seattle area deaths with military connotations and involving an African American at the helm of the sketchy attacks:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakewood,_ ... r_shooting

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Timothy_Brenton

I don't know what to make of it other than "people of color" and "Seattle" are all common to all of this.

Also see:

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Navy ... 80371.html

I want to underscore this is not racism as I am not, never was and never will be. I bring this up because of their weird Seattle connections and am wondering if it's all simply coincidence or something more as far as subliminal narrative and if there is some hidden force here that brainwashes the people they choose. I do not know, but the acts are strikingly similar and all include deaths of authorities. Again, all, with Seattle area connections. Including Obama living in Seattle at a young age with his mother Ann Dunham. This line of thinking includes the wonderment at the stupidity of the "birthers".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Dunham

I'm probably biting off more than I can chew here. But just throwing it out there for consideration as it has been occurring to me all day -- the similarities in the geographical back stories and how they affect us (general narrative).

[8bitagent]

Alexis attributed the incident to trauma he suffered after witnessing the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks that brought down the twin towers in New York, where he once lived, according to a Seattle police report

9/11, Seattle...oh and the msnbc headline "Alexis Heard Voices". I've no reason to believe this is anything other than a troubled man snapping, but for those that are hunching a hyper "no no lone nut did it" meme in the media, they sure are laying the tropes on thick.

And holy crap, I remember that Seattle area coffee shop where four cops were killed. So messed up. That DC sniper case still baffles me, gonna see that Blue Caprice movie soon

[The Consul]

Remember, too that Muhammad/Malvo's first shooting was in Tacoma and that they stayed in a mission in Bellingham (where the Priest called the FBI and nothing happened) right before they went to Antigua.

Anyway, the typical piling on is in full swing. First there were three gunman - an AR-15, a shotgun and other weapons. Then there were two, and now there is just one with a shotgun. It is so typical. Just like the Ft Hood massacre- they were running around all over the place chasing two other shooters (with at least one m-16) who laid fire in other areas of the base.

I guess it must simply be the over active imaginations of eye witnesses (including trained professionals, you know, like police chiefs). How hard would it be for these futhermuckers to send in a team, kill whoever however and set up one of the victims (perhaps unwitting participant designed for fall) in order to implement lone nut gunmania? Not hard at all with a compliant, brain dead media and a population that is massing near the cliffs just waiting for the bulldozers to come and shove them off the edge.