Remote viewers identify FBI Director as behind JFK murder

[elfismiles]

Ah yes, Ron Bryan ... I recall we've cross-posted about his research before:

viewtopic.php?p=406318#p406318

And the direct link to the podcast Fruh was alluding to are here:

Courtney Brown – Death in Dallas: Remote Viewing JFK Part Two
December 23, 2015
http://legalise-freedom.com/radio/court ... -part-two/
http://legalise-freedom.com/audio/LF169 ... -Brown.mp3

Courtney Brown – Death in Dallas: Remote Viewing JFK Part One
November 11, 2015
http://legalise-freedom.com/radio/court ... ewing-jfk/
http://legalise-freedom.com/audio/LF166 ... -Brown.mp3

[fruhmenschen]

I spoke to Ron Bryan a couple of weeks ago.

He has terminal cancer.
His experiment in detecting consciousness
in atoms now being conducted in Germany
has run into equipment problems.

Now is a good time to contact him and or
interview him for RI

Kirk over and out.

[Elvis]

Journeys Out of the Body
by Robert Monroe.

One of my favorite books. (I thought Far Journeys was even better.)

I can see how my impression of Courtney Brown was likely formed, many years ago, by disinfo about him—which as I recall was promulgated by Ed Dames. Unfortunately, Dames is still on the scene (I don't trust Ed Dames, period). (McMoneagle, from what I've read about and heard from him, sounds much more believable.)

As to J. Edgar Hoover's role in the JFK murder, I think Jack Riddler's overview, above in this thread, pretty much describes it. (One qibble: would the story be any more credible if it was presented on, say, an Anderson Cooper show, assuming that's "A league"?) So I can see how a remote viewer might 'see' part of the picture—the Hoover part—and erroneously ascribe the entire plot to Hoover.

[JackRiddler]

A story about November 22 as coup d'etat would be totally credible coming from Anderson Cooper, given that it would radically overturn his venue's denialist record on the matter until now. However, CNN is no longer the "A" league. I'm trying to find a joke about who is, but honestly I'm not sure that there is an "A" league anymore, everything that was the Mighty Wurlitzer is turning into a hollowed-out appearance, though somehow vast majorities absorb and reproduce enough of the hegemonic opinions in viral form through the osmosis of literally living inside a largely self-managed media environment. It's a weird combination of vague and fanatic. I guess the "A" league would be an enactment of the JFK story as a coup d'etat sung by Beyonce during the Pepsi Superbowl Halftime Show? No idea. We often call where we're heading neo-feudalism and also post-reality, so I guess this means this is now a peasant society?

[Iamwhomiam]

Fruh wrote,
For more examples of my coherency when I get insulted
see my Post FBI WATCH in the Data Dump

That is not very helpful. How about a link, rather than having us puzzle over which of 70 pages it appears on? That would be helpful.

I'm willing to reexamine Brown's credibility, but Dames be damned.

The way I see it, the aristocrats of JF Dulles generation formulated the plan. I don't give that much credit to Johnson, though he surely despised Kennedy and mobilized his allies in Texas as accomplices, and I feel the same about Hoover as Jack, that he was not kept informed, and that he did not he run this show.


John Edgar Hoover (January 1, 1895 – May 2, 1972)

John Foster Dulles (February 25, 1888 – May 24, 1959)

Alan Welsh Dulles (April 7, 1893 – January 29, 1969)

Lyndon Baines Johnson (August 27, 1908 – January 22, 1973)

Oh, to have been able to listen to the Cardinal's last confession!

Avery Robert Dulles (August 24, 1918 – December 12, 2008)

[JackRiddler]

John McCloy (1895-1989)

John Jay McCloy (March 31, 1895 – March 11, 1989), was an American lawyer and banker who served as Assistant Secretary of War during World War II, where he made many major decisions. After the war he served as president of the World Bank, U.S. High Commissioner for Germany, chairman of Chase Manhattan Bank, and chairman of the Council on Foreign Relations. He later became a prominent United States presidential adviser, served on the Warren Commission, and was a member of the foreign policy establishment group of elders called "The Wise Men."

Wall Street lawyer, represented Rockefeller and oil interests, also IG Farben already before war. After Germany (a big history in itself) and World Bank:

Following this, he served as chairman of the Chase Manhattan Bank from 1953 to 1960, and as chairman of the Ford Foundation from 1958 to 1965; he was also a trustee of the Rockefeller Foundation from 1946 to 1949, and then again from 1953 to 1958, before he took up the position at Ford.

From 1954 to 1970, he was chairman of the prestigious Council on Foreign Relations in New York, to be succeeded by David Rockefeller, who had worked closely with him at the Chase Bank. McCloy had a long association with the Rockefeller family, going back to his early Harvard days when he taught the young Rockefeller brothers how to sail. He was also a member of the Draper Committee, formed in 1958 by Eisenhower.

He later served as adviser to John F. Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan, and was the primary negotiator on the Presidential Disarmament Committee. In 1963, he was awarded the prestigious Sylvanus Thayer Award by the United States Military Academy for his service to the country. On December 6, 1963, he was presented with the Presidential Medal of Freedom, with Special Distinction, by President Lyndon B. Johnson.

Warren Commission

McCloy was selected by President Lyndon Johnson to serve on the Warren Commission in late November 1963. Notably, he was initially skeptical of the lone gunman theory, but a trip to Dallas with CIA veteran Allen Dulles, an old friend also serving on the Commission, convinced him of the case against Oswald. McCloy brokered the final consensus — avoiding a minority dissenting report — and the crucial wording of the primary conclusion of the final report. He stated that any possible evidence of a conspiracy was "beyond the reach" of all of America's investigatory agencies — principally the FBI and the CIA — as well as the Commission itself.[23] In a 1975 interview with Eric Sevareid of CBS, McCloy stated "I never saw a case that I thought was more completely proven than...the assassination."[24] He described writings that propagated assassination conspiracies theories as "just nonsense".[24]

Guessing like Hoover he was not inside the plot but obviously reliable afterward.

On the military side, can't avoid considering Lemnitzer and LeMay.