Justice Antonin Scalia has died

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Re: Justice Antonin Scalia has died

Postby Iamwhomiam » Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:48 pm

Wow!

Asta there is profound wisdom in your words. So very true. Makes me wonder, "What was supposed to be tomorrow's headline?"

Well, this sucks, in a way. I'll explain. The case now before the court is challenging the last and tremendous environmental victory in which I had been involved, that the EPA can indeed regulate and limit industrial emissions. An injunction was sought by our opposition to halt the regulations from being enacted but again they lost. Now they've appealed to SCOTUS for relief.

SCOTUS froze the new regulations from becoming enacted. We will all be poisoned for another two, more likely four more years breathing ungodly amounts of toxic particulates. Even dead, Scalia screws us all. Just by dying.

Scalia's lingering legacy.

But it does give us hope for a new court that will act more in line with human need and necessity rather than ignoring them to act to benefit cold, calculating, corporate greed.
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Re: Justice Antonin Scalia has died

Postby divideandconquer » Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:52 pm

I've heard the news/rumor, according to the Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Jarida that Obama's wants to become Secretary General of the UN and Netanyahu is said to be rallying moderate Arabs to thwart Obama's supposed bid, but Supreme Court Justice? If not a replacement for Scalia --how would that work?--possibly for Ginsburg or Kennedy, both born in the 1930s.

Hillary Clinton Thinks Obama on the Supreme Court is a ‘Great Idea’

Democratic hopeful Hillary Clinton thinks it’s a “great idea” to appoint President Barack Obama to the U.S. Supreme Court. At least, that’s what she told a group of Iowa voters at a town hall this week. She added “he is brilliant and can set forth an argument.” The reality is there is only one precedent for this in all of United States history (and a rather large one at that). If this happened, Clinton would be entering into some unchartered territory in the legal world.

Here’s why:

As I said, it’s only happened once before. President William Howard Taft was appointed to the U.S. Supreme Court in 1921. But, what is notable about his appointment is that it came 8 years after he left the White House. Enough time to pack on a few pounds (he weighed 340 lbs) and let any clashes that might arise from his presidency wash away.

Next, it would leave Obama open to a dozens of potential conflicts of interest on the bench. Justices must recuse themselves from hearing cases in which they are involved in anyway. A federal statute requires that judges who previously served as counsel or adviser to bow out of the case. This could be a problem for Obama. Just to give you an idea, Justice Elena Kagan served as President Obama’s Solicitor General from March 2009 to March 2010 — just one year. During her first Supreme Court term, the court issued signed opinions on 75 cases. According to Scotusblog.com, Kagan recused herself from 28– that’s more than a third! President Obama certainly has his hand in significantly more legal matters than Kagan. Many of those are bound for a higher court review including the Affordable Healthcare Care Act, and his executive orders regarding immigration and gun control. (just to name a few)

Lastly, while Obama is a Harvard Law grad, and a former constitutional law professor, he’s got no experience on the bench. While that’s not unheard of, it is unusual. Most U.S. Supreme Court justices have a long history of serving on either lower federal or state courts. There, they gain experience drafting opinions, and hearing arguments from both sides. The last time a justice was appointed without any prior judicial experience was back in 1972. Chief Justice William Rehnquist served as Assistant Attorney General of the Office of Legal Counsel under President Richard Nixon before being appointed to the bench.

When the next president of the United States is sworn in, there will be three justices in their 80s (Ginsburg, Scalia, and Kennedy). The average retirement age is 79, according to a recent study. That means there will likely be at least one vacancy. And depending who is elected, the proposition of a Justice Obama might very well become a reality.
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Re: Justice Antonin Scalia has died

Postby 82_28 » Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:59 pm

Why not Michelle Obama?
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Re: Justice Antonin Scalia has died

Postby justdrew » Sat Feb 13, 2016 8:01 pm

ding dong :thumbsup
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Re: Justice Antonin Scalia has died

Postby Iamwhomiam » Sat Feb 13, 2016 8:04 pm

Great portrait of Scalia, Rex. Ginsburg is leaning as far to the left as she can without tipping over, a nod to her socialist roots and Thomas' spiritless body sit there propped up with eyes opened, imitating life.
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Re: Justice Antonin Scalia has died

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sat Feb 13, 2016 8:50 pm

82_28 » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:59 pm wrote:Why not Michelle Obama?


A: "Because nepotism is an abomination no matter who practices such foul rites."

Also, because fuck the Chicago syndicate.
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Re: Justice Antonin Scalia has died

Postby Asta » Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:05 pm

W.rex I love the Scotus portrait. Epic! I can't be the only one to see what you did.

Too funny!!!
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Re: Justice Antonin Scalia has died

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:09 pm

Asta » Sat Feb 13, 2016 8:05 pm wrote:W.rex I love the Scotus portrait. Epic! I can't be the only one to see what you did.

Too funny!!!


Oh, Rap Twitter beat me to that one, as per usual. I saw Dom Kennedy post it, although it probably went up on imgur about two minutes after Scalia's death was confirmed.

I don't know why but MJ's mug never gets old. Recently read confirmation that Jordan himself has both seen it, and thinks it's funny.

WaPo's "Monkey Cage" blog has some oddly lucid commentary on what to expect:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mon ... -play-out/

At least, that's how the team at Brookings sees it. They do tend to give everyone altogether too much credit in their domestic analysis, though: they were never financially independent enough to be very honest.
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Re: Justice Antonin Scalia has died

Postby 82_28 » Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:18 pm

I meant that Michelle is much loved for some reason. Not that I want it, but just to put a thumb in the eye of all those Scalia harmed. Oh yeah he did type thing.
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Re: Justice Antonin Scalia has died

Postby Luther Blissett » Sat Feb 13, 2016 11:04 pm

I was at a 12-hour socialist congress all day today and we were at the bar at the time and erupted into cheers when the news came through.
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Re: Justice Antonin Scalia has died

Postby Iamwhomiam » Sat Feb 13, 2016 11:32 pm

My eulogy for Scalia, by proxy.

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Re: Justice Antonin Scalia has died

Postby NeonLX » Sun Feb 14, 2016 4:04 pm

Imagine my extreme disappointment.

Adios, Fat Tony. We knew you too well.
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Re: Justice Antonin Scalia has died

Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Feb 14, 2016 4:07 pm

How Twitter reacted to Scalia's death--The word cloud

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Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: Justice Antonin Scalia has died

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sun Feb 14, 2016 4:33 pm

Damn, I guess Twitter really is a cesspool of virulent right wing hate speech!
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Re: Justice Antonin Scalia has died

Postby Asta » Sun Feb 14, 2016 4:48 pm

Clean up in Room 237.
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