Improv psyops underway about Chicago

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Re: Improv psyops underway about Chicago

Postby JackRiddler » Sat Mar 12, 2016 5:26 pm

My first response to Trump's initial rise was, "Is this a plot to get 81% of the vote for Clinton?"

Then I saw the WWE paradigm so obviously in use, by a WWE performer. I figured the bodyslamming of the heel by new champion Jeb! Bush was coming.

That impression lasted another week, since then it became obvious to me in 50 ways that Trump is playing to win and in complete command of the media tools at his disposal. A very professional con-man, as described best in the excellent Taibbi article about him. He has secured the resentful white base - as he says he can shoot a guy on Fifth Avenue and not lose support, in fact he can call GWB a liar and not lose support. And he's got half the Christian fanatics behind him, which is nothing short of an amazing turn given Cruz. Against Clinton, he would constantly do runarounds on her fucking left, where there is plenty of space. Against Sanders, it will be a more straightforward COMMIESCOMMIESCOMMIES campaign, pretty much what any Republican would do.

(See FourthBase's posts for a partial preview of the latter. Signing off in the name of EVIL... your Kommissar, JR.)

CORRECTIONS: Ack! Sorry! I meant Emanuel, not Fleischer. Ugh! So very sorry. My second pick would have been to just call him Ari, the guy from Entourage.
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Re: Improv psyops underway about Chicago

Postby chump » Sat Mar 12, 2016 5:29 pm

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I searched "Who organized the Chicago Trump riot", and this "Mediaite site was the top result (trying to freeze up my computer)... 'Move on' has publicly taken "partial credit" for Trump's cancellation in Chicago.
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Re: Improv psyops underway about Chicago

Postby FourthBase » Sat Mar 12, 2016 5:45 pm

(See FourthBase's posts for a partial preview of the latter. Signing off in the name of EVIL... your Kommissar JR.)


You think you're being droll, but in another place and time not too long ago you would have been delighted to literally be a fucking Kommissar.

I'm not just against commies like you, Jack. I'm equally against your mirror images on the right wing, too. If you could all just kill each other off, quickly (but not painlessly, please) and without involving any of the rest of the world, that'd be great.
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Re: Improv psyops underway about Chicago

Postby DrEvil » Sat Mar 12, 2016 6:20 pm

FourthBase » Sat Mar 12, 2016 11:45 pm wrote:
(See FourthBase's posts for a partial preview of the latter. Signing off in the name of EVIL... your Kommissar JR.)


You think you're being droll, but in another place and time not too long ago you would have been delighted to literally be a fucking Kommissar.

I'm not just against commies like you, Jack. I'm equally against your mirror images on the right wing, too. If you could all just kill each other off, quickly (but not painlessly, please) and without involving any of the rest of the world, that'd be great.


There you go with your murder fantasies again. People who need to die according to you: transhumanists, commies and fascists. The list keeps on growing.

Wishing death on people you don't like is generally considered an extremist (and evil, see: Nazi Germany, Khmer Rogue) position. You would have to include yourself in that orgy of death.
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Re: Improv psyops underway about Chicago

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Re: Improv psyops underway about Chicago

Postby backtoiam » Sat Mar 12, 2016 6:47 pm

Includes up close pictures of the guy that rushed Trump, I guess...more detail than I have seen so far in a story on this.

Trump Surrounded by Secret Service as Man Tries Rushing Stage

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Re: Improv psyops underway about Chicago

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Re: Improv psyops underway about Chicago

Postby FourthBase » Sat Mar 12, 2016 7:32 pm

DrEvil » 12 Mar 2016 17:20 wrote:
FourthBase » Sat Mar 12, 2016 11:45 pm wrote:
(See FourthBase's posts for a partial preview of the latter. Signing off in the name of EVIL... your Kommissar JR.)


You think you're being droll, but in another place and time not too long ago you would have been delighted to literally be a fucking Kommissar.

I'm not just against commies like you, Jack. I'm equally against your mirror images on the right wing, too. If you could all just kill each other off, quickly (but not painlessly, please) and without involving any of the rest of the world, that'd be great.


There you go with your murder fantasies again. People who need to die according to you: transhumanists, commies and fascists. The list keeps on growing.

Wishing death on people you don't like is generally considered an extremist (and evil, see: Nazi Germany, Khmer Rogue) position. You would have to include yourself in that orgy of death.


What is one supposed to wish for the Khmer Rouge itself? Hugs? Fine, I hope that all communists, fascists, and transhumanists in the world retire their evil, megadeath-inducing ideologies and spend the rest of their entire time on earth nursing abandoned puppies and kittens. In lieu of that hope, a little more realistically, I hope they all have nonfatal strokes that leave them blissfully retarded. Too far still?
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Re: Improv psyops underway about Chicago

Postby General Patton » Sat Mar 12, 2016 7:36 pm

Concur with Wombat, I expect a HIGH ENERGY response rather than pearl clutching about the 1st amendment. On the other hand the crowd did chant "Kick his ass Donald!" when he got bumrushed in Dayton. So there's that.

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Re: Improv psyops underway about Chicago

Postby JackRiddler » Sat Mar 12, 2016 10:08 pm

What would HIGH ENERGY look like then? And do you feel it's warranted as a response to this terrible thing thousands of people in Chicago did by showing up to protest Trump?
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Re: Improv psyops underway about Chicago

Postby General Patton » Sun Mar 13, 2016 12:52 am

JackRiddler » Sat Mar 12, 2016 9:08 pm wrote:What would HIGH ENERGY look like then? And do you feel it's warranted as a response to this terrible thing thousands of people in Chicago did by showing up to protest Trump?


Anything other than whining. Hell he could just start berating the protestors as losers. Just embrace politics as professional wrestling over politics as marketing.
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Re: Improv psyops underway about Chicago

Postby 82_28 » Sun Mar 13, 2016 2:16 am

Jesus, could that fake almost attack be any more feigned? I saw it this morning and said FAKE. It's the shaking of the podium which makes it hella obvious.
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Re: Improv psyops underway about Chicago

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Re: Improv psyops underway about Chicago

Postby backtoiam » Sun Mar 13, 2016 5:12 pm

I searched "Who organized the Chicago Trump riot", and this "Mediaite site was the top result (trying to freeze up my computer)... 'Move on' has publicly taken "partial credit" for Trump's cancellation in Chicago.


Looked for references to that today too and found this. Basically this Stone guy (not real familiar with him) thinks it was a Hillary job to smear Bernie and Trump both in one shot by having fake Bernie supporters attack Trump supporters. This would link Bernie supporters with violence and Trump supporters with racism. He thinks this is just the beginning and more of this is coming. Even though the interview this guy is providing the transcript for was with Alex Jones, what he says is interesting.

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Credible Account Says Clinton Is Behind Violent Protesters at Trump Rallies
Mar 13, 2016

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This concerns the question of the identity of the people who are behind the violent protesters at Donald Trump’s rallies.

There are going to be ad-hominem attacks against me for my reporting this account, which will contradict the myths that both progressives and conservatives hold regarding the U.S. government, but anyone who recognizes that the press to this day hides its having hidden the incontestable fact that George W. Bush knowingly falsified, lied regarding the evidence concerning “Saddam’s WMD,” will at least give this account, and its source, fair and unprejudiced consideration, as being possibly accurate and honest. Sometimes, in order to get to the truth in a case, it’s necessary to rely upon the testimony of people that one considers despicable; the FBI wouldn’t be able to crack many cases otherwise — and, sad to say, neither can I. So: please don’t dismiss me for relying here upon a researcher whom I personally detest — and whom you might likewise detest.

I believe that the libertarian Roger Stone, who is the Republican Party’s most gifted opposition-researcher, after having been Richard Nixon’s most gifted dirty-trickster, and after his having ferreted out the hypocrisy of Eliot Spitzer for paying prostitutes — after, in other words, Stone’s having worked for politicians I despise, and destroyed the careers of ones I admire — is among this nation’s stellar investigative journalists; and I have found, over the years, that, when he reports about dirty tricks, what he has reported is only confirmed, not disconfirmed, as time passes. In other words: though I don’t like the man, and I disagree with his politics, I respect his news-reporting. And, here is what he says, in a rush interview with the ‘conspiracy theorist’ (another libertarian) Alex Jones, on Saturday evening, March 12th, and I think that the entire nation needs to hear Stone’s account, at least to give it consideration. So, here it is:

https://www.facebook.com/AlexanderEmeri ... 9651258459

My rush transcript of highlights from his rush-interview:

I think everybody in the country has now heard about these violent protests [at Trump rallies] which are being blamed on supporters of Bernie Sanders. … This is a false-flag. These demonstrators are flying under a false banner. They are not Sanders supporters by-and-large. This is an operation directed by supporters of Hillary Clinton, paid for by George Soros and Move-On, by David Brock at Media Matters for America, also funded by Soros, and also by the reclusive billionaire Jonathan Lewis. Now, Lewis was identified by the Miami New Times as a ‘mystery man.’ He inherited roughly a billion dollars from his father Peter Lewis … [founder of Progressive Insurance Company]. Jonathan Lewis interestingly withdrew his support of the Democratic National Committee over the immigration bill that he thought was unfair to gays. In any event, this is a Hillary Clinton operation. The idea here, very clearly, is to divide the Sanders economic voters from Trump; in other words, those voters who lost their jobs because of NAFTA and all of the other globalist international trade-deals that have screwed this country, they now realize that these voters are potentially, when Sanders is out of the race, Trump votes, and this is an effort to make Trump toxic, to disqualify him, [as a] racist, bigot, the whole thing is essentially a hoax. It’s a gambit directed, by the way, by Brock. Brock was once a friend of mine and was a comrade in the fight for freedom; but he went over to the dark side, with the Clintons, for money: big, big, big, money; and this is unfortunately his little dirty trick, Unfortunately, they have leaks within their operation, my sources are of the very best. The entire collaboration in Chicago is a Hillary Clinton operation. And, frankly, I can’t see Bernie Sanders having anything to do with it. I don’t agree with Bernie, but I respect him, and this is not his handiwork or the handiwork of his campaign.

[Jones here goes on to explain why he respects the investigative reports from Stone, then says, “When I saw all these Bernie shirts and Bernie people saying ‘We attack!’ — you know, people shooting guns in the air saying ‘We support Bernie!’ that is so clearly a way to attack him, make him look like a radical revolutionary, and to make Hillary look good, and also make Trump look like a racist when the media plays this up. You’re absolutely right. … To be clear: you have sources inside saying this is a Soros/Brock Media Matters, which they admit is run by the White House, they have weekly meetings, Obama’s former transition chief. … We’ve seen the build-up toward race-war this summer, this fall, to try to cloud the entire election; is that what you’re getting at; is this the opening salvo … ]

[Stone continues] I think Hillary understands that Trump would lose the votes of certain establishment Republicans if he is the nominee. On the other hand, it doesn’t matter, because of his crossover outreach. Right now in Ohio, Democrats and independents in the Mahoning Valley, these people have lost their jobs because of these great globalist trade deals, are lining up to vote for Donald Trump in the Republican primary, which is legal in Ohio with some paperwork. And we saw this same crossover in Michigan. So it occurred to the Clinton people that Bernie’s economic voters — not his hard-left voters, she’s not going to get them, they’re not going for Hillary, blue-collar folks who have just figured out that they have been left out of the new-world-order economy, are a ripe target for Trump; he’s already getting that, she is petrified of it; so, this little maneuver, this David Brock dirty trick, solves two problems at once: it helps knock down Bernie, because after all these people are involved in violence; and it also disqualifies Trump as a future vote, by portraying him as a racist or a bigot. The whole thing is a kabuki dance. And I think it’s very important that Trump understand that it’s not the Sanders campaign that’s disrupting his rallies; this is a Hillary Clinton operation.

[Jones asks for more details.]

[Stone continues] Hillary Clinton empowered a certain member of Congress to approach the billionaire John Lewis to pay for a portion of this overall program. This isn’t just Chicago. You’re now going to see these phony demonstrators, these ringers, showing up at other Trump events. … That’s as much as I’m prepared to say. …

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That’s the interview.

Hillary Clinton’s campaign benefits enormously by this tactic:

1: It re-orients the issue away from economics toward race; away from economic issues and toward ethnic conflicts

2: It identifies Sanders with violent supporters.

3: It identifies Trump with racism and violence by his having black ‘Bernie supporters’ (of which there are few) disrupting Trump’s rallies.

4: While it smears both Sanders, her current opponent, and Trump, her likely future opponent, it leaves Hillary herself unscathed.

So: the proposed explanation makes sense, and it’s entirely in character for Hillary Clinton.

Therefore: I believe it.
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Re: Improv psyops underway about Chicago

Postby backtoiam » Sun Mar 13, 2016 5:18 pm

So far I haven't seen any good video of this violent scuffle between supporters at the Trump rally. Anybody else?
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