3 Officers Killed 3 Injured Baton Rouge La

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Postby Project Willow » Sun Jul 17, 2016 11:41 pm

Karmamatterz » 17 Jul 2016 19:13 wrote:
Long posted on conspiracy theory websites focusing on government surveillance and monitoring, according to CNN. He was a member of a “support group” called “Freedom from Covert Harassment and Surveillance,” a site about “gang-stalking” that aims to help those “marginalized and abused by” things including “remote brain experimentation” and “remote neural monitoring of an entire humans (sic) body.”


So please bear with me as I am not well educated on the MK Ultra program or advanced mind control.


Hardly anyone is, but that doesn't keep them from talking about it with a measure of authority in their voices, which is a huge problem with contemporary culture (obvs).

If you want to pursue this line, click the links and find his actual posts. It's just guilt by association in that paragraph, so we need to know what he said.

I'll say a couple of things about MC in this context. Yes, it's incredibly easy, (although it does require non-insignificant resources), to create an operative to carry out a mission like this. We're nearly 70 years on since Estabrooks. The symptoms of the gang stalking folks mimic and/or overlap with those who've been through lab based conditioning programs. It is yet impossible to separate wheat from chaff in that arena, but a big tell for me is that the community gets far more press attention (however negative). Like the whole alien abduction phenomenon, it functions as a sideshow, so I approach it as suspect.

There are other possible tells, but these of course are in the eye of the beholder. If you watch his videos, he talks about staying in a child state. He points to his head a lot, and speaks to programming. He is fond of referring to himself as alpha, short for alpha male. His presentation is variable. He also has a big scar on his forehead. What is its source? Those are leads, to be pursued or not I suppose.
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Re: 3 Officers Killed 3 Injured Baton Rouge La

Postby Karmamatterz » Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:19 am

I also posted this in the One Drone to Rule Them All thread it the federal lawsuit alleges the use of drones as part of the mind fuckery program.

https://www.chinookrv.com.wstub.archive ... 5/mode/2up
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Re: 3 Officers Killed 3 Injured Baton Rouge La

Postby Hunter » Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:36 am

Yes, I agree with Willow, there are not a whole lot of people who do know about such things, those that do are unwilling or unable to talk about it for whatever reason. I have no personal experience with any sort of MC myself, I only know what I have read and what others have told me. I believe I have seen enough official declassified documentation to suggest to me that it is a thing, it is real but I have no idea how far they can take it at this stage of the game. Probably further than most of us imagine.


I have not watched his videos yet, will do so and comment more as I dig more in to it. I agree looking at his bio does not suggest to me someone who had a death wish or was suicidal, to the contrary he seemed to be in to good health and clean living but people are strange animals. Hard to say what is really going on here beyond that it appears to me someone wants a race war in this country and it seems we are moving very fast in that direction and we have an actual presidential candidate on a major party ticket openly helping it along complete with media fanning the flames. Why? I have not a clue. Perhaps to crack down on more civil liberties and take things to the next step after 9-11, whatever that may be.
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Re: 3 Officers Killed 3 Injured Baton Rouge La

Postby Morty » Mon Jul 18, 2016 1:48 am

His final tweet:
Just bc you wake up every morning doesn't mean that you're living. And just bc you shed your physical body doesn't mean that you're dead.


Quote from one of his videos:
"if anything happens with me – because I’m an alpha male, I stand up, I stand firm and I stand for mine til the end, til the last day in this flesh, but I’m not the flesh, I’m not the body, I have a body – but I just want to let ya’ll know, don’t affiliate me with nothing.” He said, “I’m affiliated with the spirit of justice, nothing else."


And another:
"One hundred percent of revolutions, of victims fighting their oppressors, from victims fighting their bullies, 100 percent have been successful through fighting back, through bloodshed. Zero have been successful just over protesting. It has never worked and it never will. You gotta fight back, that’s the only way a bully knows to quit, he doesn’t know words,” he said in the video. “He can’t understand words, I promise you. He doesn’t understand protests. If y’all want to keep protesting, do that. But for the serious ones, for the real ones, the alpha ones, we know what’s it’s going to take. It’s only fighting back or money, that’s all they care about. Revenue and blood, revenue and blood, revenue and blood, nothing else. Don’t even think about it."


From point two, here: http://heavy.com/news/2016/07/gavin-lon ... ge-photos/

So he was sounding quite belligerant, and as if he wouldn't be surprised if he came to a premature end.
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Re: 3 Officers Killed 3 Injured Baton Rouge La

Postby stickdog99 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 2:29 am

Anybody who loudly and publicly broadcasts such rhetoric should not be surprised if his or her life comes to a premature end.
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Re: 3 Officers Killed 3 Injured Baton Rouge La

Postby stefano » Mon Jul 18, 2016 3:31 am

Wow, this is a very weird one. Thanks Willow.
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Re: 3 Officers Killed 3 Injured Baton Rouge La

Postby Harvey » Mon Jul 18, 2016 4:19 am

Alpha (alpha and omega) could reference the first stage of an initiation, which it is often used to denote in certain circles.
And while we spoke of many things, fools and kings
This he said to me
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Is just to love
And be loved
In return"


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Re: 3 Officers Killed 3 Injured Baton Rouge La

Postby Hunter » Mon Jul 18, 2016 4:48 am

Hard to think MC with this guy, he was talking very openly about what he wanted to do and seemed in control of his faculties but I suppose that could all be part of his conditioned state or alter personality.

Whatever the case whether organic or controlled and manipulated he with his actions inched this country further towards an all out race war. Lines are very clearly being drawn as we speak and sides are being taken. I do not like it and I wish the killing would stop on all sides. Just stop it and lets find a way forward that allows for a peaceful co existence of all people, all colors, all genders, every one. I am truly for once in my life, seriously concerned about the country, I mean I have always worried about this or that but right now it really appears the country, hell, the world, is at a tipping point and I am fully aware of the argument that it is not really as bad as it seems, we are just hearing more about things that have always been going on because--internet and 24 news cycle and no, this is more than that, events are unfolding and I do not like what I see.
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Re: 3 Officers Killed 3 Injured Baton Rouge La

Postby stickdog99 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:28 am

Hunter » 18 Jul 2016 08:48 wrote:Hard to think MC with this guy, he was talking very openly about what he wanted to do and seemed in control of his faculties but I suppose that could all be part of his conditioned state or alter personality.

Whatever the case whether organic or controlled and manipulated he with his actions inched this country further towards an all out race war.


OK. Unless his inflamed rhetoric made him the perfect patsy to finger for some ritual cop killings. A lot of people talk tough. Very few actually murder cops. All I am saying is that you should not convict someone of mass murder based on his social media postings.
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Re: 3 Officers Killed 3 Injured Baton Rouge La

Postby stickdog99 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:35 am

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/baton-rouge ... formation/

A witness tells CBS affiliate WAFB that he saw a masked man in black shorts and shirt running from the scene where three Baton Rouge law enforcement officers were shot and killed.

Brady Vancel said the man looked like a pedestrian running with a rifle in his hand, rather than someone trained to move with a rifle.

Vancel said he'd gone to work on a flooring job on a street behind the gas station where authorities say the shooting occurred. He said he heard semi-automatic fire and perhaps a handgun.

He saw a man in a red shirt lying in an empty parking lot and "another gunman running away as more shots were being fired back and forth from several guns."

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The source said the SWAT team moved in and shot the gunman, and it was captured on surveillance video.

The source has viewed videos which are said to have captured "almost everything."
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Postby stickdog99 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:41 am

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/baton- ... 11-n611366

The gunman who killed three Baton Rouge police officers did not lure them to their deaths on Sunday but instead carried out the ambush after a member of the public called 911, an official told NBC News.

Police do not think that tipster was the attacker or an accomplice, Louisiana State Police Col. Mike Edmonson said.

"It was someone who was calling in," he said, adding that there "was no indication" that the initial call was "trying to lure someone here."

Edmonson added: "'A guy with a gun' — that's all the 911 caller said."

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Law enforcement officials initially believed that two other suspects were at large, but later said the deceased suspect was likely the only shooter.

Long was fatally shot after the three police officers were killed and three others wounded.

On Monday, Edmonson told The Associated Press that Long "certainly was seeking out police officers."
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Re: 3 Officers Killed 3 Injured Baton Rouge La

Postby Iamwhomiam » Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:16 am

Gavin Long might have been referring to his being an Alpha male much in the same way Estabrooks referred to experimental subject Marine Jones A and Jones B, and not in the way we generally understand the term.
"During World War II, I worked this technique with a vulnerable Marine lieutenant I’ll call Jones. Under the watchful eye of Marine intelligence I split his personality into Jones A and Jones B. Jones A, once a 'normal' working Marine, became entirely different. He talked communist doctrine and meant it. He was welcomed enthusiastically by communist cells, and was deliberately given a dishonorable discharge by the Corps (which was in on the plot) and became a card-carrying party member. All I had to do was hypnotize the whole man, get in touch with Jones B, the loyal American, and I had a pipeline straight into the Communist camp."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Estabrooks


Baton Rouge Officers Were ‘Definitely Ambushed’
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/19/us/baton-rouge-shooting.html

How the Shooting of Police Officers in Baton Rouge Unfolded
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/07/17/us/what-happened-in-the-shooting-of-police-officers-in-baton-rouge.html?_r=0

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Re: 3 Officers Killed 3 Injured Baton Rouge La

Postby SonicG » Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:53 pm

stickdog99 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 9:28 pm wrote:
Hunter » 18 Jul 2016 08:48 wrote:Hard to think MC with this guy, he was talking very openly about what he wanted to do and seemed in control of his faculties but I suppose that could all be part of his conditioned state or alter personality.

Whatever the case whether organic or controlled and manipulated he with his actions inched this country further towards an all out race war.


OK. Unless his inflamed rhetoric made him the perfect patsy to finger for some ritual cop killings. A lot of people talk tough. Very few actually murder cops. All I am saying is that you should not convict someone of mass murder based on his social media postings.


I hate to say that the only positive of these recent incidents is how they have moved away from Muslim terrorists to straight -up NWA ft pohlice! And I mean that literally: From the San Berdo two and a half (lest we forget that misfortunate Walmart security guard), through Mateen, who oddly had a thing for cops...and now the ex-military cop shooters...But indeed, this guy takes the cake. New agey black power and even some sov-cit nuttery apparently, although I think it was just some Black Moorish stuff, which is actually interesting...

But yeah, I wonder how the US can shift from the war on terra to a fullon race war. Not really I guess, but there is perhaps an odd confluence of the winding down of the war on drugs with pot legalization and, hopefully, a shifting of resources to fight the real drug problems, meth and oxy, which are coincidentally helping to lower white male life expectancy, such that if there is a relaxing of the draconian racist drug laws, you will have many more young Black Americans competing for jobs etc.(more going into the military too?), much to the ire of the still largish contigent of fullon racists that support Trump...So, race war (?) ...Possible social media crackdowns are likely, but I really cannot conceive what form they would take.
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Re: 3 Officers Killed 3 Injured Baton Rouge La

Postby Hunter » Mon Jul 18, 2016 1:02 pm

stickdog99 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:28 am wrote:
Hunter » 18 Jul 2016 08:48 wrote:Hard to think MC with this guy, he was talking very openly about what he wanted to do and seemed in control of his faculties but I suppose that could all be part of his conditioned state or alter personality.

Whatever the case whether organic or controlled and manipulated he with his actions inched this country further towards an all out race war.


OK. Unless his inflamed rhetoric made him the perfect patsy to finger for some ritual cop killings. A lot of people talk tough. Very few actually murder cops. All I am saying is that you should not convict someone of mass murder based on his social media postings.
Agree and good point for sure. I did not mean that way personally but I see exactly what you mean and the slippery slope involved. A lot of people do indeed talk tough, so what sets this guy apart that made him act on it, that is where we are I guess, is he just crazy, is it just hate, was he suicidal as one would have to be because surely nobody believes they are going to do something like this and get away with it. I think many things are in play and I am not dismissing anything at this point. I also have not had time to watch all of his videos yet. Still digging as time allows, a lot there.
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Re: 3 Officers Killed 3 Injured Baton Rouge La

Postby Iamwhomiam » Mon Jul 18, 2016 2:00 pm

It think a good reminder: More cops are killed by whites than by blacks.
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