"15 Years Later": Europhysics News prints 9/11 CD article

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Postby MacCruiskeen » Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:29 am

This is the actual latest from the Guardian, from June 8th (note that they never allow comments on such stories):

Guantánamo Bay lawyers deny colluding with judge in key 9/11 case

Military commission likened to a ‘schoolyard brawl’ as prosecution issues barbed response but does not deny destruction of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed evidence

Spencer Ackerman in New York @attackerman Wednesday 8 June 2016 19.57 BST

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... h-mohammed


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Postby MacCruiskeen » Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:57 am

Professor Benjamin DeMott in Harper's Magazine in 2004, patiently but angrily dissecting the rubbish served up to us by Kean, Hamilton, and Zelikow:

Whitewash as Public Service

How The 9/11 Commission Report defrauds the nation

http://www.harpers.org/WhitewashAsPublicService.html


Or here:

http://911blogger.com/news/2008-11-20/w ... uds-nation
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Postby MacCruiskeen » Mon Sep 05, 2016 1:07 pm

I'm gonna bump this thread every day between now and Sunday, regardless of what shape the earth turns out to be.

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This is superb, by a guy called Paul Kayley:

9/11 Tower 7 - A Firefighter's Analysis

4 May 2016

Let’s first define why this is so important. In terms of political history, this is probably the most important building collapse ever to have occurred; not just from an architectural perspective, not only because it raises very significant questions about the safety of high-rise occupiers and their rescuers should a similar building be involved in fire but because of what it represents in terms of what happened geopolitically and militarily as a result of its collapse. However, the primary purpose of this assessment is to establish what level of risk the report of this collapse identifies for Firefighters.

[...]

https://thescienceofhealthyscepticism.b ... s.html?m=1


(To judge by his website, "The Science of Healthy Scepticism", the usual focus of his attention is not on 9/11 but on fads, fallacies, half-truths & fantasies in health and nutrition.)

A greatly expanded version of the same argument, by the same author: full PDF Report (41 pages), published in July 2016:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3tnVL ... ef=2&pli=1

It includes, in passing, further evidence of the deliberate and persistent deception carried out by the fucking BBC. (Rudin and Boaden, you're going to jail, eventually.)
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Postby MacCruiskeen » Tue Sep 06, 2016 4:33 pm

Shawn ‏@online_shawn 3 hrs

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Postby NeonLX » Tue Sep 06, 2016 4:47 pm

9/11. The worst disaster ever in recorded history. The coca-cola display proves it.
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Postby RocketMan » Tue Sep 06, 2016 5:14 pm

I seem to remember that to my then shock, the demolition hypothesis got a pretty rough reception here... So I'm constantly waiting for someone to come barging in with their snark in this thread :D

Most everything was simpatico with my own leanings, so that stuck to me.

What the skepticism to controlled demolition did help me with was to put the entire issue in its proper perspective, there are much more fruitful avenues in 9/11 research of course. I think the comparison to Dallas '63 bullet trajectories is an apt one.
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Postby MacCruiskeen » Tue Sep 06, 2016 5:40 pm

^^Nah, RocketMan, it just became the most awful huffiness and snobbery. "I am not going to look at that 'CD' trash. Instead I'll show my impeccably good taste by continuing to ponder Deep Thoughts about the Deep State by Viscount Sir Lord Peter Dale Scott, he's always such a perfect gentleman." Result? Nothing. (I think a lot of people were secretly happy about that.)

Well, I too was intimidated by that attitude and went along with it for years, Nowadays I'm just irritated by this fatuous pretence that ignoring the obvious is, or ever has been, good policy.

The turning point for me came in 2008/9, after two men spoke out:

1) Barry Jennings: His statement about explosions in WTC 7 before the Twin Towers collapsed was brave and unequivocal, and all he got for it was misrepresentation, intimidation and a still-unexplained early death. (Michael D. Hess's long silence and the BBC's blatant manipulativeness & dishonesty make it clear that they were covering up something very seriously wrong at WTC7);

2) David Chandler: This retired high-school physics teacher demonstrated that WTC7 had been in free-fall for 2.25 seconds, thereby forcing NIST to eat humble pie. (The only possible explanation for that free-fall is the explosives that NIST refused to test for.)
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Postby Grizzly » Tue Sep 06, 2016 7:04 pm

Is the Blue part of the display supposed to be wtc #7?



Fuck the physics, what about this crime?

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Postby MacCruiskeen » Thu Sep 08, 2016 1:18 pm

A very good series of articles at the Off-Guardian all this week, to mark the 15th anniversary:

https://off-guardian.org/category/911-fifteen-years-on/

The comments too are often well worth reading.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Sep 08, 2016 6:23 pm

The Tide is Turning: The Official Story Is Now The Conspiracy Theory — Paul Craig Roberts
September 7, 2016


Paul Craig Roberts

In a few days it will be the 15th anniversary of 9/11, and this November 22 will be the 53rd anniversary of the assassination of President John F. Kennedy in Dallas, Texas. These two state crimes against democracy destroyed American democracy, accountable government, and the Constitution’s protections of civil liberty.

Years after the damage done by these events the American people no longer believe the official stories. Neither does the government, but the government will never validate the distrust that Americans now share of the oligarchs’ government by acknowledging the truth.

The official explanation of the assassination of President Kennedy never made any sense. Videos of the assassination contradicted the official story, as did witnesses, and many credible people challenged the government’s story. The CIA was faced with the official explanation becoming unglued and launched its media program stigmatizing doubters as “conspiracy theorists.” See:
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/08 ... g-roberts/

The CIA’s psych warfare against the public succeeded at the time and for a number of years during which witnesses had mysterious deaths and the trail grew cold. But by the late 1970s there was so much public skepticism of the official story that the US Congress took the risk of being labeled “conspiracy kooks.” The House Select Committee on Assassinations reopened the inquiry into JFK’s murder. The House Committee concluded that the Warren Commission’s investigation was seriously flawed, that there was more than one person firing at President Kennedy and that there was a conspiracy to assassinate JFK.

The corrupt US Department of Justice (sic) contradicted the House Select Committee’s report. However, the American people believed the Select Committee and not the corrupt Justice (sic) Department, which never tells the truth about anything.

By 2013 polls showed that most Americans are “conspiracy kooks” who do not believe the official government line on JFK’s assassination. So with regard to JFK’s assassination, the “conspiracy theorists” are in the majority. The minority are the Americans who cannot escape their brainwashing. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... d-kennedy/

In a few days it will be the 15th anniversary of the alleged al Qaeda attack on the World Trade Center and Pentagon, and we are witnessing the fading protection that the charge of “conspiracy theorist” provides for the officlal government story. Indeed, the official 9/11 story is collapsing before our eyes.

Europhysics, the respected publicaton of the European physics community has pubished an article by scientists who conclude that “the evidence points overwhelmingly to the conclusion that all three [World Trade Center] buildings were destroyed by controlled demolition.” Few American scientists can admit this, because their careers depend on US government and military/security complex research contracts. Independent scientists in the US are a vanishing breed, an endangered species.

The scientists say that in view of their findings, “it is morally imperative” that 9/11 “be the subject of a truly scientific and impartial investigation by responsible authorities.” http://www.europhysicsnews.org/articles ... 6-47-4.pdf

So now we are faced with a peculiar situation. The scientifically ignorant two-bit punk American presstitutes claim to know more than the editors of the journal of the European physics community and the scientists who did the investigation. Don’t you think it farfetched that ignorant, corrupt, and cowardly American journalists who lie for money know more than physicists, chemists, 2,700 high-rise architects and structural engineers who have called on the US Congress to launch a real investigation of 9/11, firefighters and first responders who were on the WTC scene, military and civilian pilots and former high government officials, all of whom are on record challenging the unbelievable and physically impossible official story of 9/11? What kind of a dumbshit moron does a person have to be to believe that the United States government and its media whores know better than the laws of physics?

The ability of the presstitutes to influence Americans seems to be on the decline. The media ganged up on Donald Trump during the Republican primaries, intending to deny Trump the nomination. But the voters ignored the presstitutes. In the current presidential campaign, Hillary is not the run-away winner that the presstitutes are trying to make her. And despite the propaganda ministry, the legs under the official 9/11 story are wobbly, to say the least.

Indeed, the official 9/11 story already has lost credibility with the American public. Last April a Rasmussen Poll found that “Americans doubt they’ve been told all the facts about the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States and strongly believe the government should come clean.” http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... about_9_11

A YouGov poll in 2013 found that 50 percent of Americans “have doubts about the government’s account of 9/11,” which shows that the public is far more intelligent and less corrupt than the presstitutes who are paid to lie to the public. This poll also found that as a consequence of the cover-up job performed by the American presstitutes, 46 percent of Americans were not even aware that a third WTC building, Building 7, collapsed on September 11. After viewing films of WTC 7’s collapse, 46 percent saw it as a controlled demolition. By a margin of two to one, poll respondants support a new investigation of Building 7’s collapse.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... about_9_11

So, in America today “conspiracy kooks” outnumber those who believe the official lies. As the official lies are themselves conspiracy theories, Americans who disbelieve the official conspiracy theories outnumber Americans who believe official conspiracy theories. The question is: who are the real conspiracy kooks, the majority who disbelieve the official lies or the minority who believe the official lies?

It is curious that the CIA’s psych-op mind-controll has broken down in the cases of the JFK assassination and 9/11, but is still effective in more recently orchestrated events, such as San Bernardino, Orlando, Paris, and Nice. Perhaps this is because not enough time has passed for the public to pay attention to the vast difference between the stories and the evidence.

The Internet offers many refutations of the official accounts. With regard to Nice, France, the Nice police officials themselves are having problems with the official story. The French Anti-Terrorist Sub-Directorate in Paris has ordered the public authorities in Nice to delete the video recordings from security cameras of the “Nice Terror Truck Attack.” The Nice authorities refused on the grounds that this would be destruction of criminal evidence. This story has disappeared from the news. I have asked friends in France how this conflict was resolved and have not heard anything. The French like to live life well and faced with the refugees from Washington’s wars, they seem to be focused on living life well while it can be done. If I hear anything, I will pass it on. http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/07 ... rts/print/

Apparently, the order to delete the video evidence of the “attack” was not sufficient for the French Ministry of the Interior. According to a senior Nice police officer, Sandra Bertin, the Interior Ministry pressured her to falsify her police report on the Nice “truck massacre.” Officer Bertin told the Journal du Dimanche that “he ordered me to put in [the report] the specific positions of the national police which I had not seen on the screen.” http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2016/07/2 ... assed-CCTV

The Interior Minister, Bernard Cazeneuve is suing the Nice police official for “defamation,” as if it is possible to defame any politician anywhere in the corrupt West. http://www.newsweek.com/french-interior ... ack-483595 Moreover, why would a senior Nice official make up a story about being ordered to change a report? It doesn’t make any sense, does it? Clearly, the central government is trying to hide the evidence against the official story. http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2016/07/2 ... assed-CCTV
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/07/24 ... yment.html

It seems that the French media is disposing of the Nice police official by branding her a rightwing racist opposed to the current government. http://www.france24.com/en/20160725-fre ... llegations

Watch this video and ignore the narrator’s four-letter vocabulary. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytM-cYfLxzk What you will learn is that all those people you saw running in the presstitute TV reports had no idea why they were running. The presstitutes created the impression that they were running away from the truck. However, as the interviews show, they were running because other people were running, because the police told them “terrorists, run,” and because they heard shots (apparently police firing blanks). Those interviewed reported, “You run with them even though you have no idea what you are running from. You can’t help it, you run with them.” None of those running away ever saw a truck.

According to the foul-mouthed narrator, the film of the people running away was taken prior to the time the truck allegedly mowed down 185 people, killing 85 of them. The narrator appears to be correct if the time stamps on videos are correct. The narrator says the streets needed to be cleared for the crisis actors to put on their show that is used to control our minds about what happened.

I have pointed out that a truck that hit 185 people, killing 85 of them would be covered in blood and that bodies would be splattered all over the street with blood everywhere. Yet, the photos and videos that we are shown show no such evidence. The stopped truck on which police are directing gunfire is as white as snow.

Independently of the vast analysis online of the video evidence of the alleged “Nice attack,” I suspect the Nice “terror attack” for the same reason that the Pentagon attack is suspect. Despite all the contrary evidence against the official stories, the authorities refuse to release the video evidence that, if it shows what the authorities claim, would shut up the skeptics and prove the official story.

When a government claims it has video evidence that proves its official story but refuses to release it, indeed, demands the destruction of the video evidence, we know for an absolute fact that the video evidence totally contradicts the official story. That is the only possible conclusion.

My readers will write to me asking how the government expects to get away with its faked, and in the case of 9/11 false flag, terror orchestrations? The answer, perhaps, is that just as it took a long time for the JFK assassination and 9/11 lies to catch up with the government, the recent orchestrations will also take some time for a slowly awakening public to catch on. In the meantime the orchestrated events will serve the agendas that they are intended to serve, and by the time that the public sees through the orchestrations, a new situation will be in place with new orchestrations.

Keep in mind that the public thinks it is shown evidence. Newspapers need photos to give a visual dimension to their coverage, and TV needs videos of the events. News organizations are under a time pressure, and they have to use what they are handed or what is at hand. There is no time to scrutinize the visual material or to raise questions about it. Most of the public thinks that the photos and videos shown to them are evidence or would not be shown and accepts the visual evidence without question. In an earlier column I linked to the vast array of Nice photos provided in the UK Daily Mail. The photos show a calm situation. There are a few people lying in the street without any sign of bodily damage or blood and there are covered objects that the public assumes are dead people. But the streets are devoid of the splattered blood and mangled bodies that would be the consequence of a truck hitting 185 people. Similarly, we have been shown very few videos and their origin is unknown except for the one attributed to Richard Gutjahr who was apparently pre-positioned to film inconclusively both the Nice and German “terror attacks.” Online analysis of the videos shows that the videos are not evidence for the storyline. The real question is why the French Interior Minister has prevented the release and demanded destruction of the security camera videos that filmed the entire event, an order that brought the central government in Paris in conflict with the public authorities in Nice. There has been no US media interest whatsoever in this very strange event. It is not a “conspiracy theory” to ask why the public cannot see the video evidence that shows what actually happened.

What agenda is served by the Paris and Nice attacks? This is the question everyone should be asking and the media, if we had one, should be investigating. With the information currently available to me, my answer is this. Of all the peoples of Western Europe, the French are the most independently minded. French independence has taken a number of recent hits from Washington:

The largest French bank was forced to hand over $9 billion to Washington for doing business with a country on Washington’s disapproval list.

Washington forced France to cancel a lucrative ship-building program for Russia, to the detriment of French companies and shipyard workers.

Washington has forced France into a diplomatic conflict with Russia that the French do not want and into a looming military conflict which the French want even less, as the conflict would mean the vaporization of France. As one Russian SS-18 can wipe out three-fourths of the state of New York, how many do you think it would take to wipe France off of the face of the Earth? Not even a handful.

Keep in mind that in 1966 President Charles de Gaulle pulled France out of NATO on the grounds that it was necessary to preserve French independence in world affairs. France did not again submit to Washington’s control until 2009 when Washington-owned Nicolas Sarkozy, put into the French presidency by Washington’s money, followed his orders and rejoined NATO.

The Paris and Nice orchestrated events serve to scare France back into Washington’s arms. Dreams of independence become nightmares when independence leaves the French people at the mercy of both terrorists and Russians. Washington, who owns Sarkozy, who is once again Washington’s candidate for president of France, intends to keep France in NATO.

The article in Europhysics pointing out the impossibility of the official 9/11 story could possibly lead to a rebirth of skepticism among Europeans. Only a skeptical media willing to investigate government storylines can bring a halt to the staged terror events that serve secret agendas.

Keep in mind that the US government has plentiful video evidence of the 9/11 attack on the Pentagon but refuses to release the evidence that it says support its story. Similarly, the French federal government has prohibited Nice authorities from releasing the security camera videos of the Nice truck attack and has ordered the video evidence destroyed. How can we believe governments that refuse to show us the hard evidence?

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Postby Grizzly » Thu Sep 08, 2016 10:44 pm



Guess Chris Rock was right on this one...
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Postby Grizzly » Thu Sep 08, 2016 11:06 pm

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Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Sep 08, 2016 11:23 pm

Buzzy Krongard..... put options

Howard J. "Cookie" Krongard the brother ... President George W. Bush. Krongard was head of the Office of the Inspector General of the Department of State.

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Postby Novem5er » Thu Sep 08, 2016 11:32 pm

I've made a few comments in the past that I think 9/11 caused a sort of nation-wide (world-wide, possibly) episode of trauma. I've said that sensitive people like myself and many here, probably suffer a sort of 9/11 PTSD that lingers to this day. We talked about it in the other thread about being addicted to being "plugged in" and always informed of latest news events. We are always hyper-vigilant and anxious for the next catastrophe. Whoever destroyed the Twin Towers definitely meant it as a grand-scale performance piece, and certainly others have said it was more like a ritual.

Well, that ritual bit kind of hit me the other year. I was doing some unrelated research and a revelation hit me like few other things have in this life. I'm not saying I believe it, but the idea shocked me to my core. I've shared it with a few other people, but really this is the only place where it'd be acceptable to openly discuss it. Now, I've tried writing this out long-form a couple of tries, but it starts to ramble, or I get anxious and quit. Really, I've always thought it could use some visual aids. So that's what I did tonight: I sat down with my laptop and mashed together these images. I don't think they will hit anyone how the idea hit me a few years back, but I thought I'd share. Thanks for looking.

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There you have it. It seems kind of simple when you pare it down to five images. Janus, to me, might be one of the most mysterious and less-understood gods of all ancient mythology. His symbology is just so deep. Seriously, at first glance he is just a god of doorways (knock, knock, heh), but as I tried to illustrate above, his cult was much more important that just that. Anyway, while the idea that 9/11 was an occult ritual is certainly not mine, I think I'm the first person to link it to the Temple of Janus and the End of Time. Everything old is new again, whether its Pokemon, Ninja Turtles, Bush's, Trump, or Hillary Clinton. I think we're stuck in a time warp and haven't really moved past it since 2001. Maybe it's like that show LOST, and we all just died that day but don't realize it. Again, thanks for looking and reading.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:45 pm

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