How the DHS Created a Deceptive Tale of Russia Hacking

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Re: How the DHS Created a Deceptive Tale of Russia Hacking

Postby Belligerent Savant » Wed Aug 29, 2018 12:52 pm

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Wombaticus Rex » Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:06 am wrote:
Grizzly, thank you for the OP. I was surprised to head back to the top of the fold and see it was published yesterday, though, since there's been a lot of developments since then. I suppose expecting Mr. Porter to do the all the heavy lifting in the span of a single article is unreasonable, though. Regardless, he nails his thesis, which is that DHS is the central nexus for a number of outright bullshit data points, and they have been conducting themselves more like Fox News than an intelligence agency.

Then again, decades after the debacle of Team B, a half century past J. Edgar Hoover's smokescreen theatrics, maybe that's a distinction hardly worth making anymore.


Indeed, succinctly summarized.

Echo WRex's thanks for Grizzly's valuable OP contribution.
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Re: How the DHS Created a Deceptive Tale of Russia Hacking

Postby Grizzly » Sat Sep 01, 2018 11:07 am

Critical thinking, eh? 348 Posts on TRUMPOLSKI russiatrumprussiatrump...and this one falls off the front page ...

The ‘soft progressive liberal set’ - just as ‘Dems’ and ‘Reps’ - don’t really present a political ideology, framework, view-point, or even low-level adherence and/or claims. They are cover for an underlying hidden structure: informal tribes/circuits and sections in an oligarchic corporatist régime, or even something different, which I won’t go into now.

Obama ran on a non-interventionist stance and a ‘re-set’ with Russia-relations platform, for which he was awarded the Peace Prize (which is not a recommendation). Trump did the same in a more loudmouthed vulgar pointed way and was vilified and is despised ‘to the death’ for it. While impeachment and a nasty accident seem out of reach, as wildly imprudent, he is prevented from acting. By the way, Bush junior did the same which garnered him the Muslim vote which probably won him the election. Yes, study the numbers. (Setting aside hanging chads and the Supreme Court, Bush still needed a pile of votes.)

The question is, what is the aim of the resurgent hate-Russia meme, now boiling-over and turned crazed hysterical? Is it at heart contra-Trump or contra-Russia? Of course one could answer ‘both’ but that doesn’t explain ‘russiagate’ and the self-harm the U.S. is trapped in.


http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/08/on-the-soft-progressive-liberal-block-.html

Also, this comment speaks to much but not all of what I think.. (but don't have the time or energy to write myself after a 60 hr work week. My body hurts) ...

I don’t want to necessarily feed the Russiagate thing but I can’t forego the truth by ignoring the obvious and I’m sick and tired of liberals peddling this popular misconception I want to expose, as I am a liberal myself and am ashamed to call myself one ever since liberals started embracing hypocrisy at the expense of what they should stand for. The only thing liberals are accomplishing with this Russia distraction is to further inflate the Karmic Monster that Trump really is. If Republicans have no shame right now; Democrats are redefining their own shamelessness exponentially because they are neck-deep in corruption as well. The corruption is staggering on both sides.
Here’s the truth and it’s especially directed at all liberal hypocrites.: The Russians did NOT break American democracy; Russians inadvertently exposed (albeit in a calculated limited way) that American democracy doesn’t exist. The American political system is completely RIGGED and both parties are guilty as sin. The problem is that the Russians narrowed the target to Hillary and the Dems and this should raise red flags as to the real intent and real authors of this collusion. When Trump repeats he did not collude with Russia;this whole Russia thing is a made up story: he’s using the Bill Clinton legal speak i.e. the famous definition of is speak. Technically, Trump did not collude with the Russian government but he got a whole lot of Russian help.

Trump was funded by Zionist Oligarchs in the U.S., but he was also curiously funded by a lot of Zionist Russian Oligarchs and they got the goods on him! In other words, he’s owned. The whole Russia angle IS a ruse concocted by Zionists; a ruse meant to distract from the fact that Zionists are the ones behind the Russia meddling and the Russian angle was deliberately used by Zionists and their Russian Zionist counterparts to distract from what really happened. Hillary was not their candidate. Trump promised to deliver on Jerusalem and Iran and Hillary never made those promises. Zionists have both sides of the aisle under their control, but whichever side demonstrates the slightest crack or weakness on Israel gets thrown under the bus in a heartbeat as Zionists have only one allegiance and that is to Zionism; Russian Zionists, idem. They’re just as bad.

Therefore the Russian angle is definitely there; Russian Zionists were involved in Trump’s election, but they left a trail seemingly leading to the Russian government when in fact this was all authored in Israel with the help of their Russian Zionist counterparts. Now, you ask, why would they then try to sabotage their own candidate with this Russia thing? It’s a calculated risk. They have insurance. They have Israel’s lawyer, Dershbagwitz doing damge control with his sidekick Neocon advocate Giuliani, and just in case things go wrong; they have PENCE waiting in the wings. IT’S ALL FIXED nice and tight.

So those Russians involved limited the rigged element of the political system to Hillary and the Democrats, very narrowly, not to expose the bigger picture in order to guarantee Trump and his man-in-waiting a victory. The limited exposure was a calculated risk. The Russia thing is to throw fake shade and erase the real fingerprints. Zionists have rigged both sides and Liberals should be shining the magnifying glass on their own Zionist financiers instead of distracting from their own corruption with: Look over there at that Trump/Russia thing!
Zionists were behind Iraq, behind Libya, behind Syria and now they got their capital confirmed by Trump and Trump tearing up the Iran deal and Bolton, Pompeo and Pence positioned to go after Iran. It’s all according to plan, people. If Trump is impeached after the mid-terms, so what, Pence is in the wings for them. Those Russian oligarchs, correction, Zionist Russian oligarchs got two birds with one stone. The influence and capital that Zionists wield is blinding, and Americans are such easy targets, with their religious and security fanaticism and especially their willing ignorance. Both parties are neck-deep in Zionist corruption; and there is NO AMERICAN DEMOCRACY. Hillary must be kicking herself for not delivering the extra inch for her masters but she had to appease the Bernie left wing. As far as Zionists are concerned, she delivered Libya and Syria, good enough for them, and then became expendable when Trump was ready to go the extra mile.

Just another note: Jackrabbit and I agree on the issue that American democracy doesn’t exist, but here’s where we disagree. Bernie Sanders did not fall on his sword for Hillary; he was sabotaged by Zionist-first Wasserman and co. because he was the Democratic candidate best positioned in all the polls to beat Trump and Zionists were not going to allow that to happen. He was therefore the first to go; and THEN, once Zionists had the goods on the Dems and Hillary conspiring to sabotage Bernie, after she became the nominee: they put it out there to get rid of her as well. She was much easier to sabotage as a nominee than Bernie would have been who had less baggage. This is as clear as daylight! This was all easy-peasy for Zionists; just another day at the office; they have inside tracks everywhere. Instead of liberals obsessing with Russia; when Israel is embedded in the ruin of democracy its own and America’s: START FLUSHING THE SABOTEUR RATS AND ZIONIST FINANCIERS ON YOUR OWN SIDE. There is no American democracy until you grow a pair and put the Democratic saboteurs to shame.
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