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Postby identity » Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:18 pm

DO’S AND DON’TS

So here you are in Paris. Your belongings have arrived, your
children are in school, you’ve most likely started to work at
a job with new colleagues—even your dog has made friends
in the park! What comes next? That’s clear: building your
life in Paris so you can enjoy what the city has to offer, with
a minimum of ‘culture shocks’ that will make you feel like
an alien from an unknown planet. Some cultural pitfalls
can be sidestepped, so here are some tips to give you some
confidence in starting your new life in Paris.

DO’S

Do be polite to people. The most important thing to
understand about the French is their reliance on manners
and formality (although harried people anywhere can
sometimes be rude). French codes of behaviour and
mannerly rituals are strictly adhered to, and they are
actually quite pleasant, once you get used to them.

Do greet people whenever you can. When you board a
bus, say “bonjour, monsieur/madame” to the driver, and
to a chauffeur in a taxi before you say where you want
to go. Say “au revoir et merci” when you get out of the
cab. (You can’t do this on the bus, because you must exit
from the rear doors.) Greet, too, your local merchants and
restaurateurs. Upon entering a small shop, say “bonjour,
madame” to the salesperson, even if you just want to look
around and aren’t ready to buy. If in a larger office or
store you need to get someone’s attention—a person who,
for whatever reason, has not looked up from behind the
desk or counter as you approached—manners will do the
trick. Say “Excusez-moi de vous déranger, monsieur, mais...”
(“Excuse me for bothering you, sir, but...”), and when the
person looks up, ask for what you need.

Do observe good manners with both strangers and friends.
If you are on a crowded bus or métro and an older person
boards, offer to give up your seat. (This also holds true for
pregnant women or those carrying small children.)

Do excuse yourself if you happen to bump into someone
while walking. “Pardon,” you might say, or “Pardon,
monsieur/madame.”

Do address women as “madame”. Women should note that
being called madame, even if you’re young or unmarried,
is not an insult. If you look to be over 30 years of age,
you’re called madame out of respect, so you should do the
same when speaking. If a woman is clearly quite young,
you may say mademoiselle.

Do shake hands. The French shake hands a lot—the
physical contact reinforces their feelings of amity and
respect. Shake the hands of acquaintances or colleagues
you meet on the street. At a restaurant you patronise
frequently, the owner may shake your hand to signal that
he knows you are a ‘regular’. (For the staff, however, a
smile and “bonjour, monsieur” will do. French waiters are
not chummy and do not introduce themselves by their
first name. Treat them with respect.)

Do greet your friends with a kiss—the French are great
kissers. Once you have made a French friend, you will no
doubt move from shaking hands to kissing. Generally this
involves a slight kiss on each cheek upon greeting and
later, upon saying goodbye.

Do respect people’s sense of domain. At the market, do not
pick out the fruit or vegetables yourself, unless there is a
sign that says libre service; wait instead for the merchant to
help you. In a shop, don’t let your kids run wild and touch
everything. At the office, always knock before entering
other people’s offices.

Do remember who you are. Even after living in Paris for
years and speaking what you think is fluent French, never
try to pass for a native. Don’t assume that just because
you speak French, the merchants are friendly to you and
you have close French friends, that you will be considered
French. This will never happen.

DON’TS

Don’t use people’s first names from the start. Using first
names is not automatic; if your colleagues want you to
call them by their first names, they will let you know. If
invited to dinner with friends, you will most likely be on a
first name basis with your hosts and the other guests, but
this does not apply to dinner at the home of your boss or
the more senior professional acquaintances.

Don’t move from using the vous form of address to the
familiar tu unless given the green light; even when you
are on a first name basis with your friends, it still is not an
automatic move. Wait until your friend indicates a desire to
tutoyer (use the tu form) or listen carefully to hear whether
there hasn’t been a subtle move toward this intimate term
of address.

Don’t ask personal questions. The French guard their
privacy and do not volunteer much personal information.
With acquaintances, don’t ask what they do for a living,
how they voted, or where they’ve bought the clothes
they’re wearing—even if you’d like to visit that shop
sometime. Let them make the first move.

Do dress appropriately for the occasion. Appearance
counts when you’re out and about. If you’re in a casual
situation, you should still dress neatly, and if you’re in a
situation that calls for you to dress up, do so. Although
young people wear jeans around town, older people don’t.
And if you look at those young people, they still look put
together, jeans or otherwise.

Don’t speak loudly. Be alert to how loudly you’re talking
on your mobile phone while on the bus, in a crowded
restaurant or in a museum. Don’t give a belly laugh or
guffaw (except while watching a funny film). Keep a
low profile.

Don’t show impatience, ever. Not everything always
goes your way, but it is ill-mannered to show impatience,
whether to strangers or friends. Even if there is no orderly
queue at a shop or stall at the market, generally the
merchant knows who’s next. If not, just wait until you are
called upon to give your order.

Don’t start any encounter with an ‘attitude’. Just because
French people—especially the older generation—don’t
smile, don’t assume they’re rude or even unfriendly. If a
salesperson in a store is busy with another customer, do
not interrupt, even just to ask directions to the department
you’re looking for; wait patiently until it is your turn.

Don’t insist on getting apologies from the French. The
French have developed a need to be right—or at least not
to be wrong—and if you can get by without upsetting this
‘rule’, everyone will be better off.

Don’t always be on time! Be punctual for professional
meetings and for dates with friends or colleagues in
restaurants. If for some unforeseen reason you are
delayed, call the person’s mobile phone, apologise and
say when you will arrive. But don’t ever (ever!) be early or
punctual for dinner at a French person’s home. If public
transportation has been particularly efficient and you
arrive early, find a café nearby, order a drink and wait
until 20–30 minutes after the time agreed upon.

Don’t talk about money. Money is one of those subjects
that is pretty much taboo with the French, at least on a
personal level. You can mention where you’ve seen items
on sale and you can complain about how expensive life is
in general, but don’t translate this into talking about your
personal situation with money, or anyone else’s.

Don’t get too graphic. Avoid details such as your own
health or that of your family, problems with your in-laws,
or even specific problems with the bank or tax bureau.
And don’t go into long personal anecdotes.


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Re: Paris, a Bumpable Thread

Postby identity » Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:33 pm

Vallès portrays himself tracking individuals whom he considers
potential specimens for his collection. In one example, he is intrigued
by a man at a public lecture, later revealed to be a historian suffering
from delusions of grandeur: ‘I wouldn’t have let him go for all the
world’, he notes, hinting at the relationship between bourgeois and
courtesan: ‘I would have ruined myself for that man; I offered him the
drink of his choosing, on the condition that he morally undressed himself
before me’.

Both writers use the metaphor of undressing
to characterize their encounters with eccentrics. Champfleury’s
implicitly feminized subjects prove pathetically eager to unclothe themselves,
providing free spectacle for the flâneur: ‘They are only too willing
to undress, and you see the naked man. They obligingly remove their
skin, and you see the flayed man. They sell their flesh, skin and veins
for very little, and you see the skeleton . . . these odd figures are quite
artfully constructed, like artificial anatomical parts.’

Yet the flood of
information that the eccentric offers to his observers has a hieroglyphic
quality of its own, proving difficult to understand. The ‘consummation’
of the relationship leads to an abrupt change of attitude: once the
secret of the eccentric’s ‘system’ is extracted, for instance, he is forbidden
from boring Champfleury by returning to it. Though he includes more
of the first-person discourse of his eccentrics in his text than any of
his contemporaries save Vallès, this appears less as an attempt to allow
their voices to be heard than a strategy of ironic citation, one which
establishes a fantasy of complicity and superiority between the narrator
and his readers.

Eccentrics are felt to be placidly amenable to their observers’ demands,
rather like human dolls. One critic suggested that Champfleury
tracked each eccentric for days at a time with the aim of ‘penetrating’
and ‘piercing’ him with an invisible gaze and ‘appropriating’ him for
himself, a comment that implicitly compares the writer to an animal
magnetist and the eccentric to a suggestible patient. Victor Fournel,
who describes Parisian eccentrics such as the ‘Persian of the Opera’
as ‘living enigmas’, models the observer’s role upon two
figures: the palaeontologist, who like the detective reconstructs vanished
traces, and the puppet-master:

Each individual provides me, little though I care, with enough material for a
complicated novel; and, just as Cuvier pieced together a whole animal from
a single tooth, and a whole world from a single animal, I piece together all
these scattered existences, I make this theatre of automata, whose strings I hold,
move, think and act as I see fit.


The dehumanizing tendencies evident in such descriptions were presumably
shared by the many readers of such texts. Champfleury portrays
himself toying with eccentrics like a cat playing with a mouse.

The pleasurable pastime of observing eccentrics, he argues, creates
a strong link between a ‘band’ of eager and curious Parisians.
This dynamic radiates outwards to include his bourgeois readers. Male
eccentrics thus bind together members of an imaginary community of
male spectators—just as the ridiculous individual of the salon creates
bonds of complicity between his or her malicious observers, facilitating
the circulation of gossip and anecdotes.


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Re: Paris, a Bumpable Thread

Postby JackRiddler » Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:33 pm

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"The French, they are a funny race..."

Paris zoo unveils the "blob", an organism with no brain but 720 sexes

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-fran ... SKBN1WV2AD
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Re: Paris, a Bumpable Thread

Postby coffin_dodger » Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:53 am

Okay, shoot. What do you think? A hidden genocide? Of whom? Or if not that, what else? What might this be, other than the cultural outgrowth of inevitable death-birth-death?


Oh Jack, I'm not falling for that old trick. So you can have another shot at knocking alternative ideas down again with your reasoned, sensible and wholly regular answers? No thanks, I'll save you the trouble of bothering with it. Stick to politics, it's where your forte lies.
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Re: Paris, a Bumpable Thread

Postby MacCruiskeen » Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:16 am

Team America saves Paris (4m 23s):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyrNktD_PwA
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Re: Paris, a Bumpable Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:58 am

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TEAM AMERICA - WORLD POLICE.

Using weapons of mass destruction to prevent deployment of...
weapons of mass destruction, laying waste to a city in the process.

Quite fitting they're all puppets.

Brilliant. Not very subtle in delivery, but that's also in keeping with current methods for disseminating 'content'.

The current culture can only absorb blatant/semi-crude forms of satire. Even then, the message is soon to be forgotten, replaced with the latest (pro empire) meme, late night TV clip or tweet.
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Re: Paris, a Bumpable Thread

Postby Harvey » Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:28 pm

Unfortunately Team America was a documentary. Fire fighters are squaring off against police to defend their republic against neo-liberal/neoconservative arseholes like AD, Jerky et al. Time to call neo-liberalism/neoconservatives for the cancer it is.
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Re: Paris, a Bumpable Thread

Postby Cordelia » Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:03 pm

identity » Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:18 pm wrote:
DO’S AND DON’TS

DO’S

Do greet your friends with a kiss—the French are great
kissers. Once you have made a French friend, you will no
doubt move from shaking hands to kissing. Generally this
involves a slight kiss on each cheek upon greeting and
later, upon saying goodbye.


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Re: Paris, a Bumpable Thread

Postby Cordelia » Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:11 pm

More on Paris, Underground.

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This is Awesome: Photos of the Secret Cinema Club Underneath Paris

by Alex Billington
July 14, 2013
Source: Imgur

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This is awesome. During my routine perusal of links from the social networks, I came across an Imgur of a screenshot from a Tumblr post that has since become an infamous meme. Back in 2011 when it was first posted, this photo of a secret underground cinema in Paris went viral prompting frantic investigations into its existence. Since then a number of major geek outlets, including Gizmodo and Wired, have since thrown open the doors to the cinema club run by "les UX", a French underground organization which improves hidden corners of Paris. Nonetheless, since I just stumbled across this I thought it worth featuring anyway.

As a die-hard fan of the incomparable cinematic experience above all else, I love these kind of underground, off-the-beaten-path events that push watching movies to the next level. The whole "underground cinema club" idea reminds me of Alamo Drafthouse's Rolling Roadshow and Secret Cinema, but with its own Fight Club-esque quirks. "Do not try to find us." Well, someone did find them and now we know their story.

Here's a much better photo included in the 2012 Wired article about UX and their underground operations:

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More...https://www.firstshowing.net/2013/secre ... is-photos/



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Re: Paris, a Bumpable Thread

Postby Cordelia » Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:17 pm

JackRiddler » Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:33 pm wrote:.

"The French, they are a funny race..."

Paris zoo unveils the "blob", an organism with no brain but 720 sexes

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-fran ... SKBN1WV2AD


^^^

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FH4PPHvaE0


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