*** Trust the supermarket workers. They know. ***

[Iamwhomiam]

Tell me Elvis, How can what I wrote be possibly interpreted as me attacking Mac? Yes, to lose someone you care about is painful. And he files a complaint against me and you come running, as if I had committed some rule violation. For me saying he should be Proud of himself for understanding loss?

[MacCruiskeen]

Dr Evil:

1. Insist on the immediate requisition of hotels (all now empty anyway) as emergency hospitals.

2. Call on all medical and nursing students,l (all now idle anyway) -- esp. those in their final year of study -- to report immediately for short intensive training in emergency medicine, esp. the treatment of acute respiratory crises, geriatric care, and the operation of medical respirators.

3. Step up the production of such respirators and any other medical equipment urgently needed. Issue a public appeal for people who may still have respirators at home to hand them into hospitals if they or their deceased relatives no longer need them.

4. Demand full and immediate and transparent data about which social groups are most at danger -- age, existing comorbidities, social class, housing situation, etc. (No one is asking for anyone's ID, ffs)

5. Call on advice and practical assistance from Cuban medics, who have decades of invaluable practical experience in such matters.

Etc.

Just for a start. All this was obvious weeks back. Any govts that truly cared about their people's welfare would have taken such steps long ago.

[DrEvil]

^^ Maybe not drink the kool-aid? And to, "Think for yourself, schmuck" ... in the words of Bob Wilson.

I am thinking for myself, and I'm thinking I'm not qualified to judge the situation so it's probably a good idea to listen to those who are. My lungs are shit and I would very much like to not have an extended hospital stay and/or die.

@Mac: all of those points make sense.

[thrulookingglass]

Revelation

Y'all think this is just a physical, scientific phenomenon? Clean hands, N95 face masks. Keep away from the 'unclean'. The untouchables. Was it Herodotus who said Moses tried to help the lepers?

"The wrongs of our past have resurfaced." - Kate Tempest

Damage the spirit, damage the soul, damage the heart, damage the mind, damage the body. Stress can and does create pain which, in turn, can cause the immune system to suffer, which can and does lead to illness. This follows through the universe. Through the soul. And while we're are talking about having to live in cramped spaces, well except for the elitist rich many of whom flocked to their isolationist "summer" homes in my state to Martha's Vineyard and Nantucket, when was the last time anyone gave a shit about the conditions we put convicted criminals through? The blessings of a Lord who believes in the use of evil. Compassion builds grace. Life shouldn't be a competition to be the "most right" (he with the least sins wins!), or perhaps the most assertive. The rule through fear, violence and terror doctrine must end. Wolves, sheep, goats...nah...just people who haven't been taught to reason well. Easier to exploit those that cannot recognize their labors are a means of prostitution. Love, grace, compassion, empathy, understanding, patience pay of in use, not as some worshiped crocheted statement on a pillow.

Worship me in deed, not in word.

They "fixed" the Warren Report. "They" fixed the bible too.

Rastaman says white devil poisoned the bible.

Tainted source, tainted product. Forgiveness, compassion negates evil. Build from sound reasoning. A crime against any is a crime against all.

Liberty? When's the last time the collective we stood up and said, "We're sick of being oppressed!"? I do remember a thing called Occupy Wall-Street.

Emancipation. To terminate paternal control over. The fuck we worried about anyway. Jesus gonna save it. Curse my listless hands. Profane my etiolated soul for not being able to free myself from the use of evil. Garrison says individuals must create justice. And individual we are. Estranged from each other. Are you cool man? What's your own approval rating today? I don't have to sell my soul, he's already in me, I wanna be adored. The safety we seek can only be built when this society rejects malevolence and embraces friendship. I say unto those who will listen, B U I L D L O V E, its the best thing you'll ever do.

That's my "Hang in there baby!" poster for today.

[MacCruiskeen]

Please don't stretch the thread. We need to keep this on-track.

[MacCruiskeen]

The thing is, people everywhere are dying to help, dying to work at something worthwhile, dying to care for their aged parents and grandparents, dying not to be stuck uselessly at home in the middle of what the BBC, CNN the Murdoch empire and all those other mindpoisoners are telling them is an unprecedented public health crisis. Of course it is, those very same fearmongering bastards created it, and long, long ago.

Relying on "the experts" sold to us by these millionaire hacks is going to get us all killed.

What do prisoners do, when pushed beyond the limit? They start by making noise.

[MacCruiskeen]

How are they doing, where you are? Very serious request for honest info.

Here in Germany they're fine and healthy and growing in confidence and often laughing.

(on edit: formatting. red added.)

[alloneword]

A couple of weeks ago they all looked a bit stressed and frazzled, lately they've been more relaxed, chatty and cheerful - some even managed to look bored (but it's possible that that's their personal default mode).

There's a limit on purchasing multiples of certain items, e.g. eggs, when my partner mentioned that our 3 yr old lives on them, the checkout human suggested (with a wink) that we go back and get another box.

Spoke with an older mate this morning who happened to be in the supermarket at the time, he said it was practically empty (of people, the shelves were well stocked).

[MacCruiskeen]

They should be on quadruple wages, all of em.

Had a brief and very funny conversation with a checkout worker this evening, a woman of about 55. We both laughed out loud. As did the young and radiantly healthy student shelfstacker who was passing by.

None of these sane & longsuffering & heroically hardworking humans are fooled, none of them has come down sick with COMORBID-911. (Yes. I have asked, and more than once. Try doing that, and do thank those people, who are a million times more reliable and useful sources if information than any of the millionaire blowhards & spacewasters in the mass media.)

[MacCruiskeen]

Speak to them, wherever you are. They know.

[mentalgongfu2]

What supermarket? Who are the workers? Please Mac, give us actionable intelligence and identifiable information, as you demand of anyone who expresses the slightest contradictory opinion to your own.

https://www.press-citizen.com/story/new ... 903147001/

An employee at the Iowa City Hy-Vee on North Dodge Street has tested positive for COVID-19.

The news comes around 10 days after a DJ who performed at several venues in Johnson and Linn counties, including the North Dodge Hy-Vee, self-reported that he had become symptomatic from coronavirus.

Tina Potthoff, Hy-Vee's senior vice president of communication, confirmed that a company employee had tested positive.

"Immediately upon notification by the employee, we followed all appropriate safety, sanitation and cleaning procedures and communicated with those who may have worked with the individual," Potthoff told the Press-Citizen via e-mail. "The store is open."

The North Dodge Hy-Vee is one of the locations where Iowa City DJ Don Morrison performed prior to testing positive for COVID-19. He performed March 5 in the Market Grill area at the store.

"We closed the facility, deeply sanitized and disinfected and then we did not open up the dining room or that particular area of the store since he's been there," Potthoff told the Press-Citizen last week regarding measures taken at the location to prevent potential community spread of the virus.

In her most recent interaction with the Press-Citizen, Potthoff stressed that the Hy-Vee employee who tested positive had had contact with Morrison outside of work. No other employees at the location have tested positive to date.

Potthoff confirmed that the employee is not being scheduled to work at his time and that this is the only instance of a Hy-Vee employee in Johnson County testing positive.

[MacCruiskeen]

"tested positive for"!!! Sic. Ffs, please. It is laughable. 1 person, anon of course, reported by a boss in the media! That anon person is not sick.

Please. Breathe deeply, talk to real humans in the real world (remember that place?), let us all get real again. Laugh, escape the lockdown, and resist the fearporn.

[Agent Orange Cooper]

I seriously wonder if the treatment these people are receiving in hospitals are leading to their deaths more than anything else. If I felt I was sick or had any of the symptoms associated with this supposed virus, I would stay as far the fuck away from the hospital as I could, lest I become a useful statistic in this game.

[MacCruiskeen]

^^very true, hospitals are always filled with germs. It's universally recognised as a serious problem.

Back to the "CASES" scam: The BBC and the Guardian are just vile right now, even viler than usual. Look at this poisonous bullshit, and read closely and carefully beyond the fearporn headline (the bastards know the fearporn headline is all most people will ever read):

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... family-say

Fearporn disinfo and emotional blackmail. Lie after lie after lie. Sickmaking, literally.

[mentalgongfu2]

I won't deny that there is fear-porn, and in theory, such a news story could be manufactured, sure. But that does not excuse your double standards. Where are these wise supermarket workers who know this is all a hoax? Come on, if you can't name names, you can it least give us locations, can't you? You demand as much of others.