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[Elihu]

we're all on board, fellow traveler.

agreed. what i was trying to drive at, and i think most understand, is the orders of magnitude greater in scope, planning, power, purpose and vectors of influence available to the antagonists.

Where people disagree with Hugh is merely details and application. And application. And application. And application.

based on the foregoing, how can we judge how and what they do? it's presumptuous to rule anything out. the shenanigans we see are only a glimpse, a part of the whole. imo, every rip-off is connected to every other rip-off. hence the advanced state we're in. if we could see behind the curtain, we would see many things really happening we considered absurd and impossible. for this reason and because i'm cast upon the rocks of intuition and because i'm cynical, i'm inclined to consider hugh's explanations. they are plausible imo.

i don't think it's as simple as a tax-funded secret segment of the military. after all consider my description of the corporation above. what would this say about the owners of said entities? turns out they are all members of interlocking esoteric societies lying about their existence and agendas. suddenly 1+1=3 begins to make more sense to me and something as fantastic as what hugh describes begins to make a macabre kind of sense as well. i don't wish to invalidate anyone's visceral (or other) responses to hugh's material. i don't want it to be true and to be honest i haven't delved deeply into it so maybe i'm speaking out of line. i just appreciate his contribution.

[Wombaticus Rex]

Definitely, the glue holding it together is rhizomatic. Secret societies and more mundane forms of social networking give the machine an asymmetrical and functionally invisible range of force. The most interesting work is always being done in the private sector and overseas: less oversight, less accountability. Expecting documented proof of compartmentalized programs and critical trade secrets is also unrealistic.

But, I'm wary of strange attractors -- disinformation loops. If the best argument I can make is that "I can't rule that out" then I'm not making an argument at all. I feel sheepish enough engaging in conspiracy theory and I can't make the leap into conspiracy theology.

[Elihu]

I feel sheepish enough engaging in conspiracy theory

yeah, i'm only a part-timer myself. sometimes i think the whole internet is nothing but a stasi-style giant honeypot trap. it did start out as a military network after all. when did that change? i never got the memo.

and I can't make the leap into conspiracy theology.

c'mon in brother! the water's fine!!!

[Searcher08]

After finding out about the huge (multi-million $) 9/11 "Education" project in London at a time when libraries are being shuttered and a tsunami of 9/11 on web TV and print media.

I read over this thread and it kinda helped restore my faith in humanity.Who knows how much of Hugh's stuff goes on?
Probably much more than we would like to imagine and much less than he might think.

[Elihu]

I also think that what really keeps fascism going is money,

clearly. huge, un-accountable flows of fake money. yes folks there is a silver bullet (no pun intended...okay pun intended) an achilles heel that would kill this demi-god monster.

This is why, I think, these subjects are so quickly prone to deletion within the curriculum of our children these days. When properly understood, they have less than no value to the State. Just the opposite. They are tools against propaganda, against mindless televison, against consumerism and destruction.

clearly. back to my supposition that every rip-off is connected. each has its purpose (conclusion inductively arrived at). one has to get the rat out of the barn an into the lab to really re-engineer it. our whole modern existence is artificial and extensively contrived. i'm not going to drop a pithy phrase like "with predictable results" doh. instead i'm proffering an explanation of the situation as we now experience it. story, inducement, vision might be a better word than "explanation". i'm not gifted in the arts

yeah, there was a nice parlay going on in this thread. i would wish to contribute more in a spirit of colloquialism. not trying to bring that down. time, space, prioritiy constraints and all...

[Joe Hillshoist]

Barracuda, when I was a kid, my mom drove a gorgeous '56 Dodge Custom Royal. The car was fast and good-looking. A flashy three-tone paint job, it had...yellow & black, topped off with a white roof. The thing had a finicky carburetor that would always conspire to hiccup & stall the engine in the middle of intersections. Wasn't too long until my mom dubbed that car as "The Yellow Peril".



Still driving a Chrysler to this day...an aging Neon that comes out about once/month when I can't take the bus for some reason.

Thats a differnt Yellow Peril.

[Joe Hillshoist]

I must have missed this thread last time round, sorry Hugh.