Breaking: Small Plane Crashes into Austin Building

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Re: Breaking: Small Plane Crashes into Austin Building

Postby SanDiegoBuffGuy » Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:11 am

Nordic, There could be several answers to your questions.

This could just be a "pressure release" right before tax time. How many Americans just can't pay their taxes this year? A guy flies a plane into the IRS building and we cheer for him like we would some Robin-Hood-like hero on television. I don't know the psychological term for this, but it's like watching "V for Vendetta" and cheering when Parliament blows up. Your mind has experienced it through the trancelike medium of film (or television) so there's no need for you yourself to go out and do it. Someone else does it, you experience it through them and there is no need for further violent protest.

The tax theme at this time of year is important to look at as people spend nights and weekends struggling to make sense of their taxes. He could have done this in July or October, why now?

This could just be one event of many smaller ones to come which may lead to more draconian laws or some other institutional response. Someone in the near future may go in person to a government office or to a bank or some other institution that has "screwed us" and cause mayhem, or several other small incidents may occur as part of some bigger plan. Maybe we're not done. Hold on to your hats!

This could have been done just for the simple reason of keeping 911 in the front of our minds. Just seeing the wreckage of this building and hearing what happend will make EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN think of 911 and think about it for days. Maybe we are being "softened up."

The manifesto, I thought, was very clearly written and methodical. It made sense to any American reading it. We are meant to sympathize with this guy.

dbcooper41, those are excellent questions. I liked your rapid-fire asking of them, too. All very good and making me think.
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Re: Breaking: Small Plane Crashes into Austin Building

Postby justdrew » Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:17 am

it could be part of a disappearing act. maybe some toothless bum was tied to the pilot seat and drugged. Maybe somehow he'd rigged the plane for remote control, maybe. Remember a couple years back some guy tried faking a hijacking, he parachuted out before letting the plane wreck. He still got caught. Don't remember the name...

How a Tax Law Helps Insure a Scarcity of Programmers - NYTimes.com a 1986 law in which Congress decreed that most individual programmers cannot be entrepreneurs ... enough money to pay for a tax break, approved with Mr. Moynihan's support, that was sought by I.B.M. for its overseas operations (now known as the "fly airplanes into IRS buildings" law)
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Re: Breaking: Small Plane Crashes into Austin Building

Postby JackRiddler » Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:46 am

So you guys seem to be sold on the idea this is yet another stage-managed event. If that's so, then this time the masterminds have completely fooled me. (Although the idea that Stack himself did the fooling so that he could go underground is great Hollywood stuff.)
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Re: Breaking: Small Plane Crashes into Austin Building

Postby SanDiegoBuffGuy » Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:51 am

Personally, I'm open to it, not sold on it.
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Re: Breaking: Small Plane Crashes into Austin Building

Postby 17breezes » Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:03 am

JackRiddler wrote:So you guys seem to be sold on the idea this is yet another stage-managed event. If that's so, then this time the masterminds have completely fooled me. (Although the idea that Stack himself did the fooling so that he could go underground is great Hollywood stuff.)


Would you consider a false flag operation carried out by 9/11 truthers?

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Re: Breaking: Small Plane Crashes into Austin Building

Postby barracuda » Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:13 am

I personally am not one of those who sees every airplane crash as some kind of traumatic recapitulation of 911. And as yet, I fail to find the great propaganda value in this particular action. They could crack down on flight plan submissions, I guess, but that would hardly stop this from happening. As I recall, the 911 hijackers had all filed flight plans.
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Re: Breaking: Small Plane Crashes into Austin Building

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Re: Breaking: Small Plane Crashes into Austin Building

Postby lupercal » Sat Feb 20, 2010 4:52 am

This one sure had a lot of 911 echoes, you have to admit, and that's always best bu$$iness practice for the security state. Just a guess, but I'd imagine the real motive, if it was a black bag job, was to cover something up. Why would the guy burn his freaking house? Because he's psycho? Okay but apparently he wasn't. Better answer: to cover up his connection to whatever was also destroyed in the Fed building fire. It's an old trick. Building 7 for example apparently contained a lot of ongoing SEC investigation records conveniently destroyed on 911.

So, it looks random enough to be for real, sure, but then this is Texas, and Fort Hood sounded real enough too, until the details started coming out.
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Re: Breaking: Small Plane Crashes into Austin Building

Postby elfismiles » Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:02 pm

JackRiddler wrote:So you guys seem to be sold on the idea this is yet another stage-managed event. If that's so, then this time the masterminds have completely fooled me. (Although the idea that Stack himself did the fooling so that he could go underground is great Hollywood stuff.)


Not me. I think it is possible it was staged but so far I've not seen anything that for me is definitive.

But you are right about the cinematic quality of the speculation Jack. Any good "conspiracy theory" needs a sort of James-Bondian foundation.

So has anyone found a connection between AJStack's business projects and Tesla motors or Air Unique Inc. outta Cali?

And as for AJS not updating his plane info with the FAA...

The FAA rules (not laws) require you to notify them within 30 days. But it is only an issue if you fail to respond to correspondence.
It is common and essential that they be able to get notices to you about issues like parts that are faulty or AD's. If, for example, several mechanics report anomalies about a part or parts, the FAA may issue an AD (administrative directive). This could be merely a notice to inspect or a notice to replace a part immediately or after a certain number of flight hours. If you don't, there is not much they can do, except cancel your registration. But, like a car, that won't keep you from using it. However, unlike a car, if you have an accident in a plane that is not inspected or properly registered, insurance will not pay.

Or so I am told.
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Re: Breaking: Small Plane Crashes into Austin Building

Postby ninakat » Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:21 pm

SanDiegoBuffGuy wrote:Personally, I'm open to it, not sold on it.


Ditto. I'm sold on the possibility of being sold on it.
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Re: Breaking: Small Plane Crashes into Austin Building

Postby Maddy » Sat Feb 20, 2010 4:21 pm

operator kos wrote:ZOMG:

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Re: Breaking: Small Plane Crashes into Austin Building

Postby justdrew » Sat Feb 20, 2010 5:20 pm

he really blew his stack

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Re: Breaking: Small Plane Crashes into Austin Building

Postby 82_28 » Sat Feb 20, 2010 5:33 pm

Snipes asks 'What's new?' about IRS plane crash

WASHINGTON -- - Actor Wesley Snipes, who has tax problems of his own, had a blunt reaction to news about a software engineer who crashed his plane into an office building with nearly 200 IRS employees inside.

In an interview Friday with the Associated Press, Snipes asked, "What's new?"

Authorities say A. Joseph Stack III, who was furious with the Internal Revenue Service, crashed his plane into an Austin, Texas, building on Thursday. Stack and one other person were killed.

Snipes said tax problems have been an issue in the U.S. from the very beginning.

As the actor put it: "I think it was an issue even for the early colonists and the British, so what's new?"

Snipes, 47, was convicted in 2008 of not paying taxes for three years. He was sentenced to three years in prison and is appealing.

Despite his legal troubles, Snipes said, "All is very well. We're very positive, we're very confident that things will work out to our benefit and to our favor."

He brushed off the experience as just another part of living.

"These are the bumps and bruises of life. They build character and you learn from it as you move on."

Snipes says he still doesn't understand why the IRS pursued him.

He added, "I'm not a politician, I'm not saving the world, I haven't created a cure for cancer, I make movies ..."

In 2006, "Survivor" winner Richard Hatch was convicted of not paying his taxes and spent more than three years in jail. He complained that the IRS used him as an example.

In Snipes' opinion, "they were successful."


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Re: Breaking: Small Plane Crashes into Austin Building

Postby DeltaDawn » Sat Feb 20, 2010 5:45 pm

shucks, promise, son will be home soon 2/help me figure out this quote and link stuff...but until then.

Quote SDBG: "Personally, I'm open to it, not sold on it."

Quote ninikat: "Ditto, I'm sold on the possibility of being sold on it."

Agree, but "show me the money" or logic behind the thought. :)
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