Superbowl Halftime Show - M.I.A. Flips the Bird

[Saurian Tail]

Of course, Madonna _is_ the ultimate keyword hijack.

[slomo]

Of course, Madonna _is_ the ultimate keyword hijack.

Isn't it though?

[dbcooper41]

fyi, here's a little info on who actually designed this show.
and wether you believe it's real occult action or a long running mind game, none of this happened accidently.

so who's trying to screw with our minds?
and why?
also, recall 2 other events that may, or may not, be related to this event.
1- the grammy show(i think) with madonna, brittany spears and christine aguelera perfoming what some called a "masonic, demonic, etc ritual". a google will bring results.
2-M.I.A.'s appearance at the grammys where she was extremely pregnant(with an unusually named baby) and supposedly went into labor either during or immediatly after her performance.

http://livedesignonline.com/news/rodgers_super_bowl_XLVI_02201208/
lots of names of people involved in the design of the show here. no idea if any of them are interesting.

Bruce Rodgers of Tribe Inc designed an eye-catching
production for the XLVI Super Bowl Halftime Show starring Madonna. ....

Our director Hamish Hamilton had experiences with her as
well and we new we had an artist in Madonna to channel everything through, and that's the path we took. ...

executive producer Ricky Kirshner

ANY RELATION TO DON KIRSHNER

represented by her creative director Jamie King and his team

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lighting designer Al Gurdon

costume designer stylist B Akerlund

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and the great artists at Moment Factory:

several more if anyone is interested.

and a little more info on the show.
http://www.digtriad.com/video/1437398216001/1/Visual-Assault-of-Super-Bowl-halftime-show-created-in-Nashville

[Project Willow]

I think you are conflating several different viewpoints in this thread. I can only speak to my own,

You put yourself in my wheelhouse by using language usually confined to the areas I mentioned.

I'd have an easier time understanding your viewpoint if you were more specific. I don't live in the mainstream, christian world, what is the significance of the use of the song "Like a Prayer? What specifically were the effects of the Egyptian iconography on the general public?

And btw, what do you mean that you don't believe in satanism?

[dbcooper41]

Saurian Tail wrote:
Of course, Madonna _is_ the ultimate keyword hijack.

funny you mention that cuz when i heard the luv madonna stuff i immediatly thought of the Virgin Mary/Madonna loving group, which again may or may not be real. ask tom hanks

[dbcooper41]

what is the significance of the use of the song "Like a Prayer?

that song always reminds me of a priest abusing a child.
maybe it's supposed to make me think of that, i don't know.

[Saurian Tail]

Of course, Madonna _is_ the ultimate keyword hijack.

Isn't it though?

Yes it is. And this is why I have never viewed her as "just an entertainer".

Is she a victim of ritual abuse and/or mind control? I have no way of knowing.

My best guess is that having talent and choosing this persona drew the attention of people who were willing to help her career along. Birds of a feather flock together.

[Elihu]

was the symbolism on her knickers important enough that the old girl needed a couple of spotters to pull off the cartwheels? looked like 4th grade tumbling class. must have been important. darned occult...

[JackRiddler]

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Gah, forgot, on a week I skipped work in January, Madonna was at this very company for a couple of days to shoot something related to the Superbowl gig. More I cannot say, because I honestly don't know, but if I'd been here I would have worked for it.

The list of different producers, agents, managers, designers and whatnot involved in the show, posted by dbc, is typical. Everyone's looking for their own dinner, as they say in this business, ideally getting producer fees and then having subcontractors hire subcontractors to do actual work. This is another reason I am thoroughly unsold on the idea that the show was a sincerely meant magickal invocation, only that it wanted to look enough that way to allow anyone to see what they like. In that sense, a success.

Also, what argues against the possible interpretation I brought up: That Baphomet is a kind of tyrant or spirit of the age you are commanded to love and that it claims your prayers, but at the end it is banished, allowing "world peace" to rise. The intent of any such show is to have people reading it every which way they can.

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[vanlose kid]

Madonna fans in Israel ask government to delay any war with Iran until after May concert
Facebook page is rallying point; some advocacy groups are calling on artists to boycott Israel
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By David Hinckley / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Friday, February 10, 2012, 11:54 AM

Israeli Madonna fans are asking their country to give peace a chance — at least until after the Material Girl's late-spring concert there.

They're rallying around, what else, a Facebook page, called "Bibi don't start a war with Iran until after Madonna's show on May 29."

Translated, that message suggests that Israel will eventually attack Iran if Iran doesn't back off on its nuclear development program.

But it asks that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu delay any such action until after the Madonna show, because of the likelihood that foreign artists would not want to play in a country with a war in progress.

Israel, like other countries with a history of military tension, has been a nervous gig for some artists over the years, going back to the 2001 cancellation of a Red Hot Chili Peppers concert.

Compounding the issue now are calls from advocacy groups outside Israel, asking that musicians boycott Israeli shows to protest Israeli policy toward Palestinians.

That was apparently the reason Cat Power has canceled her planned weekend show in Tel Aviv.

She tweeted Friday that felt "much confusion" and could not play for her Israeli fans because she felt "sick in her spirit."

Elvis Costello and The Pixies have previously canceled Israeli shows.

No response so far from the Madonna camp, which is basking in the afterglow of her Super Bowl performance last weekend.

No word, either, on whether the Madonna show has been on the agenda when Netanyahu and the Israeli cabinet meet to discuss their Iran options.
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[slomo]

I think you are conflating several different viewpoints in this thread. I can only speak to my own,

You put yourself in my wheelhouse by using language usually confined to the areas I mentioned.

I'd have an easier time understanding your viewpoint if you were more specific. I don't live in the mainstream, christian world, what is the significance of the use of the song "Like a Prayer? What specifically were the effects of the Egyptian iconography on the general public?

And btw, what do you mean that you don't believe in satanism?

If you read through my comments, you will see that I personally never claimed Madonna was a MC victim of any organization or cult. Others did. As far as I'm concerned, she's simply a performer with certain critical talents and on the bankroll (as many other entertainers are) of very powerful people. Incidentally, so am I, indirectly, and I carry out their agenda as well (though it happens to be an agenda in a very different domain, medicine and public health). And so are you, if you work for any large organization.

In my opinion, these powerful people have a hidden agenda, i.e. one closely held and not disclosed to the public, and some of the very powerful ones know ancient arts of targeted precise manipulation of the collective psyche.

As for satanism, I don't believe these people believe they are satanists. My opinion, not substantiated by much except intuition (which could easily be wrong) is that they are old families that are carrying on very old traditions from either pagan Europe or pre-diaspora Judea.

[Project Willow]

And so are you, if you work for any large organization.

I'm rather a direct slave, of a network that has ties to major players in the national security state and the MIC.

In my opinion, these powerful people have a hidden agenda, i.e. one closely held and not disclosed to the public, and some of the very powerful ones know ancient arts of targeted precise manipulation of the collective psyche.

Interesting supposition. Might I offer that according my own personal experience with these folks, they are aware of contemporary methods for manipulating the public psyche, as well as ancient arts for manipulating the individual psyche.

As for satanism, I don't believe these people believe they are satanists. My opinion, not substantiated by much except intuition (which could easily be wrong) is that they are old families that are carrying on very old traditions from either pagan Europe or pre-diaspora Judea.

If you might give some credence to individual experience, again, I'll offer you mine. Some of them absolutely do believe in their dualistic practices, which actually are somewhat varied, and some of them don't. Of the ones who don't, they keep their heresy to themselves and don't challenge all the trappings so that they can maintain access to group ritual activities which allow them free reign to exercise their own individual psycho-pathologies in a group setting.

So in my experience, there are families and groups, some of whom are networked to the highest levels of power in this society, who not only believe in, but practice some form of satanism.

[slomo]

Interesting supposition. Might I offer that according my own personal experience with these folks, they are aware of contemporary methods for manipulating the public psyche, as well as ancient arts for manipulating the individual psyche.

Why stop there? Certainly ancient arts for manipulating the public and contemporary ones for manipulating the individual are fair game? Very clear from publicly disclosed research agendas that the latter are definitely of interest, and my own personal research of magick/occult would lead me to believe that the former do certainly exist.

[Project Willow]

Why stop there?

Because I would not post on this site except for its segment called rigor.

Certainly ancient arts for manipulating the public and contemporary ones for manipulating the individual are fair game?

Fair game for speculation? I'm not a fan of guessing.

Very clear from publicly disclosed research agendas that the latter are definitely of interest, and my own personal research of magick/occult would lead me to believe that the former do certainly exist.

Of interest to whom? You've equated "some families" with the national security state, as far as I can tell, which would bring us around to ra/mc, if we need rely on documentation rather than pure speculation.

[sunny]

[I'm pretty sure the following is a severe paraphrasing of Jeff's definition of Satanism. Jeff, please feel free to correct me] An actual Satan doesn't have to exist as part of the equation of 'Satanism'. Any ritualized cult activity engaged in with the intent of causing grievous, deliberately sadistic and perverse harm to the minds and/or bodies of innocent victims is 'satanism' in my books. [and presumably Jeff's] 'Satanism' as a form of cult activity doesn't have to be a Christian construct at all nor even called Satanism, as there must be hundreds of other words and names one could call it and still have it mean the same thing. Either way, 'satanic' to me is a willfully cultivated state of mind wherein the rights of the individual not only outweigh the rights of the collective but the rights of the collective and of other individuals are actively attacked with the devoted zeal of rabid dogs. 'Satanist' as a state of mind produces incontinent and self-worshipping individuals who often form groups to increase the fun and who are a danger to society at large in every conceivable way they can conjure, individually and collectively.

As for Madonna, I don't believe she's anybody's puppet. If she's in a dangerous cult, she's one of the controllers. Look at her obscene wealth! Look how she misuses it to polish her image. [or for some other child snatching-related endeavor we can only guess at. sorry PW.] We shouldn't have to debate whether a person, man or woman, at that level gives a shit about 'humanity'. Her treasures are being laid up elsewhere.

It strikes me that necromancers, who often raise demons, use a hodgepodge approach to ritual. They use whatever traditions and symbolism or mythology they surmise will be effective in their efforts. They call upon a plethora of spirits and deity's and make any number of combinations of sacrifices, in spirit and actuality. In any case, many ancient rites and rituals of the dark arts contain common threads and practices, but the INTENT of the ritual is what is most crucial.

Do we really think Madonna intended her ritual to usher in 'world peace'? Or is she after a bigger piece of the world at the expense of some poor brown [red, tan, white] people?