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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby kelley » Wed Aug 03, 2016 9:31 am

'even the neocons don't want trump with the nuke codes' is undoubtedly true but as a statement it masks an actual fact: he was never going to be let anywhere near them in the first place

the clintons have carried and indeed will continue to carry water for them and their transnational brethren in the near future

the only thing left to speculate upon is whether she'll be tolerated for eight years at the idiot switch instead of four
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Aug 03, 2016 9:33 am

I saw Michael Hayden this morning being asked the question....was there any safe guards in place concerning trump being able to launch a nuclear strike...he said no...president alone has the power to do it..no one can stop him
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby Elihu » Wed Aug 03, 2016 9:42 am

the only thing left to speculate upon
things to speculate upon: will she give it up?
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby Elihu » Wed Aug 03, 2016 9:54 am

these are mini ceasars the title is for sale and the winning bidder gets to play with the legions for awhile she's 70ish years of age?
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Postby Elihu » Wed Aug 03, 2016 9:57 am

and btw, this show is barely at it's first commercial break, stay tuned for a word from our sponsors
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Trump asks why US can't use nukes

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:18 am

Trump asks why US can't use nukes: MSNBC
Matthew J. Belvedere | @Matt_Belvedere
3 Hours Ago

Donald Trump asked a foreign policy expert advising him why the U.S. can't use nuclear weapons, MSNBC's Joe Scarborough said on the air Wednesday, citing an unnamed source who claimed he had spoken with the GOP presidential nominee.

"Several months ago, a foreign policy expert on the international level went to advise Donald Trump. And three times [Trump] asked about the use of nuclear weapons. Three times he asked at one point if we had them why can't we use them," Scarborough said on his "Morning Joe" program.

Scarborough made the Trump comments 52 seconds into an interview with former Director of Central Intelligence and ex-National Security Agency Director Michael Hayden.


Scarborough then asked a hypothetical question to Hayden about how quickly nuclear weapons could be deployed if a president were to give approval.

"It's scenario dependent, but the system is designed for speed and decisiveness. It's not designed to debate the decision," Hayden said.

Hayden was CIA director from 2006 to 2009 during the George W. Bush presidency. He was the National Security Agency director from 1999 to 2005, spanning the presidencies of Bill Clinton and George W. Bush.

CNBC reached out to the Trump campaign via email and was awaiting a response.



Trump Allies Plot Candidate Intervention After Disastrous 48 Hours
by CHUCK TODD and HALLIE JACKSON

Key Republicans close to Donald Trump’s orbit are plotting an intervention with the candidate after a disastrous 48 hours led some influential voices in the party to question whether Trump can stay at the top of the Republican ticket without catastrophic consequences for his campaign and the GOP at large.

Republican National Committee head Reince Priebus, former Republican New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich are among the Trump endorsers hoping to talk the real estate mogul into a dramatic reset of his campaign in the coming days, sources tell NBC News.

The group of GOP heavyweights hopes to enlist the help of Trump’s children – who compromise much of his innermost circle of influential advisers – to aid in the attempt to rescue his candidacy. Trump’s family is considered to have by far the most influence over the candidate’s thinking at what could be a make-or-break moment for his campaign.
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:27 am

seemslikeadream » Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:33 am wrote:I saw Michael Hayden this morning being asked the question....was there any safe guards in place concerning trump being able to launch a nuclear strike...he said no...president alone has the power to do it..no one can stop him


Hayden has said a lot of things over his career, and occasionally even spoken the truth.

I'm pretty dubious about the whole nuclear suitcase kabuki myth dance.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby JackRiddler » Wed Aug 03, 2016 12:07 pm

Wombaticus Rex » Wed Aug 03, 2016 10:27 am wrote:
seemslikeadream » Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:33 am wrote:I saw Michael Hayden this morning being asked the question....was there any safe guards in place concerning trump being able to launch a nuclear strike...he said no...president alone has the power to do it..no one can stop him


Hayden has said a lot of things over his career, and occasionally even spoken the truth.

I'm pretty dubious about the whole nuclear suitcase kabuki myth dance.


No shit. And if it's really possible for a sick man to do this on personal whim (as a bankruptcy fraud scheme, perhaps?) then who set up such a situation in the first place? That's seventy years of system-level insanity, if so, and obviously calls for an immediate President Chomsky to disarm it.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby PufPuf93 » Wed Aug 03, 2016 12:50 pm

Luther Blissett » Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:03 am wrote:Ever since the Project for a New American Century, I've always thought of that whole crew as one of the major outer, public rings of power in the world, and I suppose little has changed in that perception. Would it be incorrect in saying that Clinton is the figurehead for most of them?


Since seeing this pdf, I have been wondering if the Atlantic Council isn't the PNAC of 2016.

http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/images/p ... b_0719.pdf

Read to the end and see the list of supporters.

Also at the general website there are a number of recent articles lauding Trump as serving Russian interests.

The group definitely supports and influences Hillary Clinton and differs minimally from PNAC.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby PufPuf93 » Wed Aug 03, 2016 12:52 pm

Wombaticus Rex » Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:27 am wrote:
seemslikeadream » Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:33 am wrote:I saw Michael Hayden this morning being asked the question....was there any safe guards in place concerning trump being able to launch a nuclear strike...he said no...president alone has the power to do it..no one can stop him


Hayden has said a lot of things over his career, and occasionally even spoken the truth.

I'm pretty dubious about the whole nuclear suitcase kabuki myth dance.


Michael Hayden is one of the names on that Atlantic Council pdf regards Russia.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby Luther Blissett » Wed Aug 03, 2016 3:30 pm

I'm down with it.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby The Consul » Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:42 pm

It would seem our precious bodily fluids have been at risk for a very long time.
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Re: Trump asks why US can't use nukes

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:35 pm

seemslikeadream » Wed Aug 03, 2016 10:18 am wrote:
Trump asks why US can't use nukes: MSNBC
Matthew J. Belvedere | @Matt_Belvedere
3 Hours Ago

Donald Trump asked a foreign policy expert advising him why the U.S. can't use nuclear weapons, MSNBC's Joe Scarborough said on the air Wednesday, citing an unnamed source who claimed he had spoken with the GOP presidential nominee.

"Several months ago, a foreign policy expert on the international level went to advise Donald Trump. And three times [Trump] asked about the use of nuclear weapons. Three times he asked at one point if we had them why can't we use them," Scarborough said on his "Morning Joe" program.

Scarborough made the Trump comments 52 seconds into an interview with former Director of Central Intelligence and ex-National Security Agency Director Michael Hayden.


Scarborough then asked a hypothetical question to Hayden about how quickly nuclear weapons could be deployed if a president were to give approval.

"It's scenario dependent, but the system is designed for speed and decisiveness. It's not designed to debate the decision," Hayden said.

Hayden was CIA director from 2006 to 2009 during the George W. Bush presidency. He was the National Security Agency director from 1999 to 2005, spanning the presidencies of Bill Clinton and George W. Bush.

CNBC reached out to the Trump campaign via email and was awaiting a response.



Trump Allies Plot Candidate Intervention After Disastrous 48 Hours
by CHUCK TODD and HALLIE JACKSON

Key Republicans close to Donald Trump’s orbit are plotting an intervention with the candidate after a disastrous 48 hours led some influential voices in the party to question whether Trump can stay at the top of the Republican ticket without catastrophic consequences for his campaign and the GOP at large.

Republican National Committee head Reince Priebus, former Republican New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich are among the Trump endorsers hoping to talk the real estate mogul into a dramatic reset of his campaign in the coming days, sources tell NBC News.

The group of GOP heavyweights hopes to enlist the help of Trump’s children – who compromise much of his innermost circle of influential advisers – to aid in the attempt to rescue his candidacy. Trump’s family is considered to have by far the most influence over the candidate’s thinking at what could be a make-or-break moment for his campaign.


I'm starting to wonder whether nuclear incineration is now the optimal Elite plan to preempt methane clathrate/permafrost meltdown predicted by Guy McPherson, Malcolm Light, Sam Carana et. al., and avoid the subsequent societal shitstorm through useless eater elimination. Nothing beats global warming like nuclear winter!
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:40 pm

82_28 » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:35 am wrote:I thought I would kick off a new trump thread as it does appear "this trump thing" is in fact serious and is here to stay.


August 26th, 2015.

Anyone else think this thread will hit 200 pages before November? Trump's ability to monopolize the news cycle was commented upon frequently while he was putting down the entire GOP field, but that...that was nothing.

August 3rd, 2016 and the news cycle is basically Donald Trump. The entire thing, not just the political commentary and campaign coverage. It's stunning to witness, no matter how cynical I try to be.

Nobody's even made a serious assassination attempt yet (although perhaps someone tried recently.)
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Aug 03, 2016 9:08 pm

I'll do my part....seems people want him to just quit now....before Sept. 1 would be convenient for them


Remember Ross Perot!


or the republican party may just quit him...they are kinda freaking out now


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1qQ1SKNlgY


Republicans nominate dangerously insane person to lead America, then panic when he proves he’s dangerously insane


Donald Trump Pushes Republican Party to Its Breaking Point
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Don’t forget that.
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