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catbirdsteed wrote:These vaccines didn’t end disease — better living conditions, improved sanitation and the greater overall health of advancing society did that.
Shorter Gap Between Pregnancies Linked to Increased Autism Risk
The rising prevalence of autism in the United States suggests that environmental risk factors growing in prominence are at play. New research adds to a growing body of evidence that the risk is conferred well before affected children show symptoms, such as impairments in communication and social interaction -- during pregnancy.
According to the study published in Pediatrics, children conceived within one year of a sibling were three times more likely to be diagnosed with autism than those conceived after three years or more. The association held true even when the study authors controlled for variables such as parental age, preterm birth and low birth weight – all factors known to increase autism risk.
"We've identified a really robust association," said Peter Bearman, director of the Lazarsfeld Center for the Social Sciences at Columbia University and senior author of the study. "When you see something so robust and so stable, it provides an important clue as to what we should be looking at next."
The risk of autism among children conceived 1-2 years after an older sibling was almost double, the researchers reported.
The study focused on over 660,000 second-born sibling children born in California between 1992 and 2002. During that period, the proportion of births occurring within 24 months of a previous birth increased from 11 percent to 18 percent, according to the researchers.
"Closely spaced births occur in some part because of unintended pregnancies but also by choice, particularly among women who delay childbearing," they wrote.
Joe Hillshoist wrote:stickdog99 wrote:
What results of what experiments? If you are discussing Wakefield's original MMR experiment that has caused all this fuss, it never proved anything, regardless of the truth of Deer's allegations against Wakefield, other than the desperate need for further research on the issue vaccine safety.
OK fair enough with that.
Remeber I mentioned the swine flu vaccine thing.
I thought it was stupid to stop giving it to kids based on the numbers I saw. That was obviously a political decision based on an emotional reaction to the vaccine causing reactions in kids. One aspect of vaccinations is that reactions occur, its a normal immunological response and shows the vaccine has "downloaded" its info into the immune systems data bank. Thats a metaphor but its closer than it seems to accurate.
No one died. Now this was all based on public media hysteria.
The swine flu panic was too, so I'm staying within the logic of that. I might disagree that swine flu vaccination was necessary but thats not the point I'm making.
Joe Hillshoist wrote:If there are risks with vaccine:
a/ are they 1) poor practice (mercury, infection, etc) or 2) something thats inherent in the vaccine?
Joe Hillshoist wrote:b/ but in either case what are the numbers?
How many people get really sick as a reaction to vaccines and what is the overall ratio compared to no vaccines? Whats the rick benefit analysis for the average individual on average? And the potential worst outcomes of both actions (vaccine & no vaccine) and their likelihoods.
Joe Hillshoist wrote:That is what the vaccine debate should be about. Point a/ above isn't an issue about vaccines per se. Its about poor medical practice. Cos if the risks are inherent in the vaccine and so point b deals with that.
Joe Hillshoist wrote:I don't see Wakefields actions as adding to that.
Plutonia wrote:Ha! That's a classic. Just Google "I'm not a Scientologist but" and see for yourself.stickdog99 wrote:Look, I'm no fan of Scientology (or any other fundamentalist religion for that matter).I see what you did there.But I fail to see what could be Scientologists' motivation to infiltrate or set up associations to question vaccination. And even if Scientologolists had some sort of secret motivation to do so, why shouldn't the content of any such sites still stand on its own merits, considering that this content has nothing whatsoever to do with Scientology?
Joe Hillshoist wrote:catbirdsteed wrote:Plutonia, barracuda, anyone... Why is it that Paul Offit's conflict of interests never seem to be under the microscope of the Wakefield critics? Could one or both of you address this. please?
Wait a minute didn't he vote against the use of the smallpox vaccine in response to a terror scare cos the benefits were outweighed by the risks to the public of taking the vaccine?
That certainly suggests to me that whatever his conflict of interests may be he is also capable of thinking about the public interest first and putting his own preference for vaccination to the side.
The Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons is not listed in the major literature databases of MEDLINE/PubMed[36] nor the Web of Science.[37] Articles and commentaries published in the journal have argued:
that abortion causes preterm birth later in life, and thus birth defects such as cerebral palsy to future children born to women with a history of abortion,[38]
that the Food and Drug Administration and Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services are unconstitutional,[39]
that "humanists" have conspired to replace the "creation religion of Jehovah" with evolution,[40]
that increased carbon dioxide in the atmosphere has not caused global warming,[41]
that HIV does not cause AIDS,[42][43]
that the "gay male lifestyle" shortens life expectancy by 20 years.[44]
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