8bitagent wrote:I was born Februrary 1978. Allegedly it's 2013. 35 years. Still poor, still never really got to date, still no success. But I am relatively happy...give or take. Time stopped a long time ago for me.
You're a pretty attractive fellow. If it's that you're not conventional, that's the world's problem, I say.
I dont know if you are referring to it, but the avatar is David Byrne isnt it?
No, I was referring to the actual 8bit, whom I met when he visited NYC last year. He's "a pretty attractive fellow," as I wrote, and I would have thought his chances of dating scads of people were good. Now I learn otherwise. Even the tall, good-looking, stylish whose vibe is totally-not-a-psycho can have it lonely, apparently.
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We meet at the borders of our being, we dream something of each others reality. - Harvey of R.I.
To Justice my maker from on high did incline: I am by virtue of its might divine, The highest Wisdom and the first Love.
You might enjoy this page, as it is chock-full of side-by-side comparisons of the past and the present from a very old city. I think the comparisons tend to be user-submitted, so look for those.
The most recent images at the top of the feed don't follow the format as well, but there are some very surprising ones. This city is constantly in flux and already looks (and feels) vastly different from when I moved here 15 years ago.
The Rich and the Corporate remain in their hundred-year fever visions of Bolsheviks taking their stuff - JackRiddler
8bitagent wrote:I was born Februrary 1978. Allegedly it's 2013. 35 years. Still poor, still never really got to date, still no success. But I am relatively happy...give or take. Time stopped a long time ago for me.
You're a pretty attractive fellow. If it's that you're not conventional, that's the world's problem, I say.
I dont know if you are referring to it, but the avatar is David Byrne isnt it?
No, I was referring to the actual 8bit, whom I met when he visited NYC last year. He's "a pretty attractive fellow," as I wrote, and I would have thought his chances of dating scads of people were good. Now I learn otherwise. Even the tall, good-looking, stylish whose vibe is totally-not-a-psycho can have it lonely, apparently.
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Well, in that case it may be more of an 'internal'/confidence thing, or perhaps even 8bit's CHOICE, whether he may admit it to himself or not, to be 35 and rarely date.
Of course, I know NOTHING about 8bit -- and he is welcome to [or not] provide more color -- but I do know plenty of 'average' [at best] guys in appearance and/or personalty that have dated all manner of women before reaching 30, let alone 35. 8bit -- if you want to, you generally can. Date, that is. Particularly if you're a "pretty attractive fellow" that lives in or around a metro area.
Perhaps I should refine/redefine/re-explain at this later juncture in the thread as to what I was going after.
It was as though style, fashion and what looks current came to a halt almost around the span of time between the Bush/Gore/Nader race and the very date of 9/11/2001. Music, "popular" music went into a stasis and all of it sucks as country/christian/pop/rock have all melded, for instance. Of course there have been changes. Yet the span of time has yielded very little with difference, socially observably, noticeable since then. Again, there have been changes. But at a glance, I feel, there have been none. Each and every span of time in this period is mostly indistinguishable from any other. This particularly runs the generalized gamut -- ie photos and footage of people we do not know and thus can compare how they have aged in the last 13 years.
Which brings me to ask, is there any HD footage of 9/11? (I assume most will understand where I am going with that). I honestly don't think there is, but there could be. If there is, why? Whatever became of that "documentary" that was being filmed? What was its format?
There is no me. There is no you. There is all. There is no you. There is no me. And that is all. A profound acceptance of an enormous pageantry. A haunting certainty that the unifying principle of this universe is love. -- Propagandhi
82_28 wrote:Perhaps I should refine/redefine/re-explain at this later juncture in the thread as to what I was going after.
It was as though style, fashion and what looks current came to a halt almost around the span of time between the Bush/Gore/Nader race and the very date of 9/11/2001. Music, "popular" music went into a stasis and all of it sucks as country/christian/pop/rock have all melded, for instance. Of course there have been changes. Yet the span of time has yielded very little with difference, socially observably, noticeable since then. Again, there have been changes. But at a glance, I feel, there have been none. Each and every span of time in this period is mostly indistinguishable from any other. This particularly runs the generalized gamut -- ie photos and footage of people we do not know and thus can compare how they have aged in the last 13 years.
The last 13 years? Oh most definitely: Almost zero significant change. Dub broke into the mainstream as the soundtrack to skateboarding commercials. Hipster jug bands and faux-emo kids musically masturbating with sickeningly-precious earnestness. Some fashion nods to hairdo's and wardrobes of an assortment of previous decades. A little more of a stylistic foothold for the vile transhumanist aesthetic. (I count the rise of dub as part of that, music to sooth a savage Terminator.) Otherwise, squat? Correct me if I'm wrong.
On the other hand, I wonder how much change would be perceived by those looking back at the end of some other 13-year intervals. 1946 to 1958. 1969 to 1981. 1993 to 2005. I don't know. It might be that we're looking at this inside-out, that the big socially observable changes were the result of distinct blasts that settled for a while into an equilibrium. Who knows, maybe 2013 is the year that finally kicks off a new sensibility. Hopefully for the good.
Which brings me to ask, is there any HD footage of 9/11? (I assume most will understand where I am going with that). I honestly don't think there is, but there could be. If there is, why? Whatever became of that "documentary" that was being filmed? What was its format?
An inside job could not have accomplished in the HD age, because the seams and threads would show?
“Joy is a current of energy in your body, like chlorophyll or sunlight, that fills you up and makes you naturally want to do your best.” - Bill Russell
FourthBase wrote:Dub broke into the mainstream as the soundtrack to skateboarding commercials.
is this the dub of which you speak?
82_28 wrote:Which brings me to ask, is there any HD footage of 9/11?
it's a good question as to whether the Naudet brothers were shooting on film or video for their documentary. if it was video, i doubt it was HD. if it was film. probably 35mm.
Yeah, that. The sound of our robot overlords dancing on our descendants' bones. The noise every kid is bobbing their head to today. Get off my lawn, kids! Get off my bones, robots!
“Joy is a current of energy in your body, like chlorophyll or sunlight, that fills you up and makes you naturally want to do your best.” - Bill Russell
With that clarification, then I would answer that the reason why socially observable time has appeared to stop is because mass media monopolization of the last couple decades is invested in the dumbing down of society both educationally and culturally, and have made it so that cultural innovation is completely hidden in the controlled avenues. To find it, one has to search.
The Rich and the Corporate remain in their hundred-year fever visions of Bolsheviks taking their stuff - JackRiddler
In part of trying to put together these examples of innovative contemporary music, I listened NPR's "SXSW 100" and it was pretty derivative / in the nostalgia market. There were a few gems. These are culled from numerous sources (Wire, Skatterbrain, my collection, friends) and I'm sure there are some examples that are far more transformative that I'm missing here. A lot of this is probably noisy, chaotic, and grinding, but my primarily goal was not easy listening - it was to find examples that probably would not have existed in 2003.
I'm just going to avoid dubstep altogether for a few reasons. I find most dubstep to sound like Aphex Twin with a few Moore's Law tricks layered over top. Also, as a genre I believe it may have already existed in certain parts of London a decade ago.
I want to start with chip music as a genre because, while it is derivative and reliant upon 8bit digital history, it's also DIY, noteworthy as a tangible product of hacking practices, and for being technologically innovative and pretty wild:
I don't know how to describe Sunn O))). It's in the metal genre but within a couple of seconds you'll realize that it's not that. I'm just going to offer that this could potentially be triggering for vaguely occult-like chants and excruciatingly dark mood:
I'll let an older review from a few years ago try to explain this artist. I know that the sounds within are fairly new wave, but the final product is troubling/sickening/mind-boggling. This guy put out Wire magazine's Album of the Year in 2011 (?). It's difficult for me to shake after I listen to it:
From the front cover art alone it’s pretty apparent that this release is an extension of his amazing earlier Edward Flex side, with alien-faced musclemen teleported to an imagined Acropolis via steroids and Budweiser. The track titles take the whole sick city/dystopian cheeseburger USA vibe to a whole other level – “Computer Chipped Police”, “Surveillance Society”, “Public Execution Of A No Mark”, “Seventh Book Horsemen” – while the sonics combine bass guitar, thunder cracks, Nazi-fied marching songs, triumphant horns, video game asteroid explosions, tape-warped muscleman grunts and meathead vocal chants. The effect is as horrifying and confusing as the post-microwave culture that James both worships and abhors and this is some of the most startling black nightmare psychedelia of his career. Utterly singular.
Wire's 2012 Album of the Year:
Godspeed! You Black Emperor's new album. I've seen them cited before on this forum as powerful music, I believe.
I think a lot of the hip hop I listen to is standard enough (RZA, Ghostface, Meek Mill, Odd Future, MF Doom), but I think there's a lot out there breaking molds:
Wire's 2010 Album of the Year:
I find Theo Parrish pretty interesting. There are probably much more avant garde choices within this genre:
Fairly standard hardcore, but notable for its scale, "operatic" grandeur, and leftist politics:
I'm meh on Animal Collective, but this is undeniably a "new" product and they are insanely popular. They were also the best live show I've ever been to, in 2004 at a Haverford College basement:
I think Sleigh Bells count as "pop music" now. This is definitely weird.
Another fairly popular artist:
I really want to include some new free jazz because it's so wild and fun now but I think my argument would be struck down since people like Albert Ayler and Don Cherry were uniformly crazy in their day. Let's listen to Brötzmann for the fuck of it:
And again, I want to reiterate that these don't reflect my personal tastes but it's just what I could think of off the top of my head as "new sounds."
The Rich and the Corporate remain in their hundred-year fever visions of Bolsheviks taking their stuff - JackRiddler
8bitagent wrote:I was born Februrary 1978. Allegedly it's 2013. 35 years. Still poor, still never really got to date, still no success. But I am relatively happy...give or take. Time stopped a long time ago for me.
You're a pretty attractive fellow. If it's that you're not conventional, that's the world's problem, I say.
I dont know if you are referring to it, but the avatar is David Byrne isnt it?
No, I was referring to the actual 8bit, whom I met when he visited NYC last year. He's "a pretty attractive fellow," as I wrote, and I would have thought his chances of dating scads of people were good. Now I learn otherwise. Even the tall, good-looking, stylish whose vibe is totally-not-a-psycho can have it lonely, apparently.
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Well, in that case it may be more of an 'internal'/confidence thing, or perhaps even 8bit's CHOICE, whether he may admit it to himself or not, to be 35 and rarely date.
Of course, I know NOTHING about 8bit -- and he is welcome to [or not] provide more color -- but I do know plenty of 'average' [at best] guys in appearance and/or personalty that have dated all manner of women before reaching 30, let alone 35. 8bit -- if you want to, you generally can. Date, that is. Particularly if you're a "pretty attractive fellow" that lives in or around a metro area.
I just chalk it up to divine will:) Like when you're on a cross country road trip, you randomly ask you're road trip mates if you can stop for waffles...and right as you walk in a girl is walking out and notices your band t-shirt and how it's her favorite band. And she becomes your future wife. There was a story of a plane diverted on 9/11/2001 to Nova Scotia, where a guy ended up meeting his future wife in a small town. I like stuff like that. My life has been a series of odd coincidences, but I also believe in being proactive. Just a lot of people need to work on themselves; or they're in a setting(work/school/church) to meet men or women. I'm active in art, music and various collaborative scenes and am not a hermit; I think I'm just a stranger in a strange land. I enjoy performing tho, this was me in Los Angeles a couple weeks ago
"Do you know who I am? I am the arm, and I sound like this..."-man from another place, twin peaks fire walk with me
