Former LAPD Officer's Manifesto & Shooting

[barracuda]

[8bitagent]

Anybody else sorta horrified at the timing of this with Obama's speech?

Horrified ? naw...more pleasantly amused as to how it all kind of gels together. Kabuki, squared.

[Laodicean]

[Pele'sDaughter]

http://www.infowars.com/lapd-audio-from ... herfucker/

LAPD Audio From Dorner Siege: “Burn This Motherfucker”


“Alright, we’re gonna go ahead with the plan with the burners”

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
February 13, 2013

Police audio from the Christopher Dorner siege reveals a deliberate plan to burn down the cabin in which Dorner was trapped, with one LAPD officer heard to say, “fucking burn this motherfucker,” before police discussed their intention to, “go ahead with the plan with the burners.”

The audio was captured on police scanners as well as being picked up by a local news broadcast.

“Alright, we’re gonna go ahead with the plan with the burners,” one officer says.

“Copy,” replies another.

“Like we talked about,” the first officer responds.

“The burners are deployed, and we have a fire,” says another officer moments later, before the police dispatcher repeats the statement.

Within minutes of the fire starting, police note that the cabin is “starting to collapse.”

Police are also heard discussing if they are ready to “bring fire”.

“Burners” is police slang for tear gas canisters, which are known to cause fires.

In a separate clip carried by a local news channel, police are heard to say, “Fucking burn this motherfucker,” and “burn that fucking house down.” This audio appears to be from earlier in the siege following the initial shootout between Dorner and cops.

The fact that police would burn down the cabin in which Dorner was trapped, in a similar fashion to how the infamous Waco siege ended in 1993, was predicted ahead of time in a video Alex Jones made hours beforehand. I made the same prediction in a Facebook post before reports even emerged that the cabin was on fire.

Given the ammunition inside the cabin, LAPD officers knew that the tear gas would lead to a fire and instead of waiting it out, chose instead to carry out a summary execution. That’s not to excuse the actions of Dorner, but the fact that police now view burning people to death as a reasonable way to apprehend a suspect is shocking.

As Mike Adams writes today, “If the LAPD is going to abandon its mission of public safety and function as an armed vigilante justice squad, dishing out death sentences to those it believes are guilty — without a trial or anything resembling due process — then they might as well throw away all their badges as just call themselves the LA Gang Squad. Because that’s how they’re acting.”

A spokeswoman for the San Bernardino county sheriff’s office said that Dorner’s charred remains were found inside the cabin, but the LAPD still refuses to confirm that a body has been discovered.

The quotes by cops screaming to burn the cabin down from earlier in the siege can be heard in the news report below.

[Wombaticus Rex]

and what is happening with the cops who killed the people in the truck? I mean wtf was that, and are people suitably outraged?

Nobody was killed, despite the number of shots fired. Officers responsible on paid leave pending review, just like every other time this happens in America.

"Protocol," we call it.

[JackRiddler]

So who was it that said above when they found him it would be put down as a single shot suicide? Can't find it again, but someone did...

That was me. I didn't anticipate that they'd "Waco" Chocolate Rambo.

Yeah, but that's the story - the cabin "caught fire" and then a single shot was heard from within. A body was recovered and now they're going to confirm that it's Dorner. Pay no attention to the police radio!

[Laodicean]

#DornerPlaylist

[FourthBase]

Guys, there were no hostages in the cabin. He had been shooting at the cops, intent to kill them. Explain to me how burning down the cabin is sinister, because I'm sure it is in some way, but I can't quite grasp how yet. Unless it was "Running Man" style theatre, of course. But is it, like, just too brutal a way to take him down, more than a sniper? Is it against some law enforcement rules of engagement for that scenario? Is it that it could have started a forest fire? Is it that some poor schmucks had their cabin burned down and have to rebuild? Is it the prospect of a fire merely being a way for them to cover their tracks, like, that isn't really Dorner, etc.? Help me understand why the fire if deliberately set by police should be disturbing.

[kelley]

it's that no attempt was made after the encirclement at the cabin to actually apprehend dorner. at least that's what's heard in the audio from the scene. he was literally toast from the get-go, and that's not justice as proscribed by the letter of the law. it's vigilantism, or extra-judicial murder, akin to a lynching. the noose had tightened. if a targeted drone had been available, dorner's end may have come sooner, but the efficacy of burning is also tried and true, so, you know. whatever.

[FourthBase]

The idea is that the police could have maybe apprehended Dorner safely, so...they should have waited a while until after he had shot a few more? Yeah, that's not helping me understand why the fire is disturbing. If some dude is shooting-to-kill, I would not want to live in a town policed by cops who would not try to put him down in any way that wouldn't endanger civilians. Except, of course, for the middle finger to Posse Com and love song to totalitarianism that would be drones, I would not want that. But, it wasn't a drone (that we know of, lol) it was "burners". And Dorner, if not some kind of patsy, had forfeited his right to be arrested unharmed and given a fair trial, forfeited his right not to be toast if it meant he would cease shooting. Or am I wrong? Perhaps I am, and Dorner might have surrendered or been incapacitated non-lethally, and the LAPD simply wanted revenge in the form of burning him alive, or the LAPD (and possibly other agencies) had absolutely zero intention of ever letting him live to appear in court, add to any folk anti-hero-ness, and most of all testify to any more corruption.

[barracuda]

I'm not sure sinister is the word I'd use. I'd probably go with "primitive and grotesque," maybe. Horrible. Just about any situation that results in charred human remains is disturbing.

LAPD Chief Charlie Beck called it "bittersweet", which makes it sound more like a love story. I guess that's appropriate, in a way.

[FourthBase]

Primitive, grotesque, horrible, I concur. But preferable to drones, correct? I figured there would be a little hallelujah-ing here today over the absence of drones.

[brainpanhandler]

Anybody else sorta horrified at the timing of this with Obama's speech?

Horrified ? naw...more pleasantly amused as to how it all kind of gels together. Kabuki, squared.

Why should the timing be horrifying? Or "kabuki squared", as in stagecraft where the outcome is preplanned and known? And why would any of it be pleasantly amusing?

There are only a very limited number of ways these two events could coincide. Either Dorner was some sort of mind controlled manchurian candidate set off at the appropriate moment or he was a willing part of an elaborate plot to create the whole scenario or he never existed at all and everything we know about him is fiction or perhaps some combination of the above.

I mean the Dorner saga is newsworthy. No? You can't make the argument that it was just hyped by the illumanati controlled media.

Or are we positing that the universe produced the dorner saga to coincide with Obama's speech? Really? Doesn't the universe have anything better to do?

And what meaning can be drawn from the coincidence of these two events? Why is it meaningful at all? I mean even if we allow that somehow, someway, these events were engineered or meant to coincide with one another what was the purpose?

[kelley]

if the only option for LAPD was to shoot dorner on sight, then this story will almost certainly be spun as a plea for the adoption of drone use by local municipalities, if only under the auspices that their officers not be exposed to lethal risk. to protect and serve? please. this incident is a huge step towards the organized murder of citizens without regard for their guilt or innocence, or the safety of their neighbors, as clearly seen on the streets leading up to yesterday's denouement.

[Laodicean]

Anybody else sorta horrified at the timing of this with Obama's speech?

Horrified ? naw...more pleasantly amused as to how it all kind of gels together. Kabuki, squared.

Why should the timing be horrifying? Or "kabuki squared", as in stagecraft where the outcome is preplanned and known? And why would any of it be pleasantly amusing?

There are only a very limited number of ways these two events could coincide. Either Dorner was some sort of mind controlled manchurian candidate set off at the appropriate moment or he was a willing part of an elaborate plot to create the whole scenario or he never existed at all and everything we know about him is fiction or perhaps some combination of the above.

I mean the Dorner saga is newsworthy. No? You can't make the argument that it was just hyped by the illumanati controlled media.

Or are we positing that the universe produced the dorner saga to coincide with Obama's speech? Really? Doesn't the universe have anything better to do?

And what meaning can be drawn from the coincidence of these two events? Why is it meaningful at all? I mean even if we allow that somehow, someway, these events were engineered or meant to coincide with one another what was the purpose?