How to Understand And Confront Holocaust Denial

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Re: How to Understand And Confront Holocaust Denial

Postby American Dream » Thu Jan 02, 2014 5:52 pm

seemslikeadream » Thu Jan 02, 2014 4:43 pm wrote:Excellent points...repeated over and over and over again....we're pretty smart here ...you should realize that and stop shoving your agenda in our faces

again I ask who are the holocaust deniers here AD? who are the bigots?


That's not what I said.

I urge you to do whatever helps you to disengage here because I don't see/feel any good coming from further engaging with you.
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Re: How to Understand And Confront Holocaust Denial

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:04 pm

yes it is


AD says
Devil is in the details because you and others support things that 99% of people I know of would surely term "bigotry"- at best...



I urge you to do whatever helps you to get over your denial...


nothing good comes from your false implications


why don't you just disengage your perpetual front page Holocaust denial obsession...7 years is long enough


I see nothing in your repeated threads that hasn't been said before....over and over and over
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They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: How to Understand And Confront Holocaust Denial

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:13 pm

I haven't had the time/bandwidth to keep up with this thread, if anything needs attention PM me, otherwise carry on.
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Re: How to Understand And Confront Holocaust Denial

Postby jakell » Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:24 pm

seemslikeadream » Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:34 pm wrote:
jakell » Thu Jan 02, 2014 4:09 pm wrote:So. How are we doing at confronting holocaust denial? (the particular holocaust here being the Nazi genocide), any practicalities emerged yet?

Some of those guys are pretty good and know their stuff, so it's important to remain focussed.



we've been going over this for 7 years now here....focused enough....emerged enough....everything has been said has been said over and over and over again...this thread was posted as a warning....this thread has been posted so ANOTHER Holocaust denial thread is on the front page of this board


it's relatively easy to talk this stuff to death amongst similar minded people, it's quite something else to go amongst these folks for a while and take them on.

It is often assumed that they are fairly dumb and unimaginative, but this is definitely not the case. One of the confabulations I have seen here is about how they are involved with elites and power structures, and I would say the opposite is true. What the 'elites' would like to see is us all getting along in some cultural Marxist sandbox, this is more profitable in the longer run; those wars etc were good for a quick buck, but ultimately a little unpredictable..
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Re: How to Understand And Confront Holocaust Denial

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:41 pm

jakell » Thu Jan 02, 2014 5:24 pm wrote:
seemslikeadream » Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:34 pm wrote:
jakell » Thu Jan 02, 2014 4:09 pm wrote:So. How are we doing at confronting holocaust denial? (the particular holocaust here being the Nazi genocide), any practicalities emerged yet?

Some of those guys are pretty good and know their stuff, so it's important to remain focussed.



we've been going over this for 7 years now here....focused enough....emerged enough....everything has been said has been said over and over and over again...this thread was posted as a warning....this thread has been posted so ANOTHER Holocaust denial thread is on the front page of this board


it's relatively easy to talk this stuff to death amongst similar minded people, it's quite something else to go amongst these folks for a while and take them on.


yes talked to death

then why don't you and AD go amongst those folks and take them on.....you're surely not going to find them here
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Re: How to Understand And Confront Holocaust Denial

Postby coffin_dodger » Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:43 pm

Jackell said:
I have spent some time amongst White nationalists and Neo Nazis, internet forums make it possible for me to converse with people that I find objectionable and who I would never otherwise have had a opportunity of exchanging ideas with.


Can you point me in the direction of some of the sites you conversed at? - I'd be interested to take a look at how these chaps operate, their justifications - and how you countered them.

Also, from your personal point of view, what were your motives in engaging these assholes - were you researching a book, a TV show, article or something like that?
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Re: How to Understand And Confront Holocaust Denial

Postby American Dream » Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:50 pm

coffin_dodger » Thu Jan 02, 2014 5:43 pm wrote:Jackell said:
I have spent some time amongst White nationalists and Neo Nazis, internet forums make it possible for me to converse with people that I find objectionable and who I would never otherwise have had a opportunity of exchanging ideas with.


Can you point me in the direction of some of the sites you conversed at? - I'd be interested to take a look at how these chaps operate, their justifications - and how you countered them.

Also, from your personal point of view, what were your motives in engaging these assholes - were you researching a book, a TV show, article or something like that?


Please do not post direct links to White Supremacist/Neo-Nazi Sites. Some people here have been known to use x's in place of vowels, e.g. "Stxrmfrxnt"...
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Re: How to Understand And Confront Holocaust Denial

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:52 pm

again we are not idiots...of course we are not going to link to those sites....
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Re: How to Understand And Confront Holocaust Denial

Postby Searcher08 » Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:56 pm

American Dream » Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:50 pm wrote:
coffin_dodger » Thu Jan 02, 2014 5:43 pm wrote:Jackell said:
I have spent some time amongst White nationalists and Neo Nazis, internet forums make it possible for me to converse with people that I find objectionable and who I would never otherwise have had a opportunity of exchanging ideas with.


Can you point me in the direction of some of the sites you conversed at? - I'd be interested to take a look at how these chaps operate, their justifications - and how you countered them.

Also, from your personal point of view, what were your motives in engaging these assholes - were you researching a book, a TV show, article or something like that?


Please do not point direct links to White Supremacist/Neo-Nazi Sites.

Thanks.


Likewise, please do not post giant images of Neo-NAZI / Historical Hate stuff.
If you think they are relevant, please just post a link.
Cheers.
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Re: How to Understand And Confront Holocaust Denial

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:57 pm

:adore:


yea who would want to post an image like this....LINKED TO DI WEBSITE :P

Image

someone that was disgusted by DI surely wouldn't link to his site would he?

or a site with the name zi*n cr*me fact*ry....who would link to a hate site like that?

AD :rofl:
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Re: How to Understand And Confront Holocaust Denial

Postby American Dream » Thu Jan 02, 2014 7:06 pm

This book provides a valuable overview of how the problem is evolving:


Rewriting History: Holocaust Revisionism Today




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Re: How to Understand And Confront Holocaust Denial

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Jan 02, 2014 7:07 pm

you're not linking to another hate site are you AD?


that hate site AD linked to is on page 6 of this thread
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Re: How to Understand And Confront Holocaust Denial

Postby American Dream » Thu Jan 02, 2014 7:19 pm

This one gets at some of the very real ways Holocaust Denial and related shit hurts- not helps:


London BDS, Racism And Press TV
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Re: How to Understand And Confront Holocaust Denial

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Jan 02, 2014 7:21 pm

American Dream » Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:19 pm wrote:This one gets at some of the very real ways Holocaust Denial and related shit hurts- not helps:


London BDS, Racism And Press TV


I thought you supported BDS AD?


oh and watch those links :wink:
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Re: How to Understand And Confront Holocaust Denial

Postby American Dream » Thu Jan 02, 2014 7:29 pm

The following linked 13 pages are useful, too:


"Holocaust denial"
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