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Postby Luther Blissett » Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:51 am

I'll be keeping my eye on this:

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Postby conniption » Fri Nov 21, 2014 7:49 am

Truthstream Media

Posted on November 19, 2014

by Melissa Melton
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Ferguson: A Highly Organized, Scripted Agenda to Overshadow the Executive Amnesty Announcement?

“Fear is a very powerful weapon, it catalyzes, it causes division, it can be used as an excuse to remove even more civil liberties. Make no mistake America, there are reasons the media are portraying this, in this particular light. You are ALL being manipulated.” (random comment I read the other day…)

History has shown that so many revolutions that many of us have cheered on over the years have turned out to be completely fabricated (or at the very least, co-opted) for an ultimate end game.

Let me start this article by letting you know (in case you didn’t) that every massive rights movement in modern American history has ultimately wound up infiltrated…

Every single one. Remember Occupy Wall Street? These things may even appear to start out organically, but at some point they get co-opted and steered by powerful people for a specific agenda. The question always becomes, “How long has this been going on?” and “What is the endgame?”

The Ferguson situation reeks of COINTELPRO.
For more on that, just go read “Counterintelligence: A Documentary Look at America’s Secret Police” subhead “The FBI’s Counterintelligence Operations Against: Black, Puerto Rican, Native American, and Chicano/Mexicano movements.” It’s filled with the FBI’s own declassified memos pointing to the reality that the FBI and other agencies have historically run counterintelligence programs in this country “designed to systematically disrupt and destroy domestic Third World liberation movements and their leadership by any means necessary.” [author’s emphasis, not mine]

It’s all a playbook and people just keep getting conned by it over and over and over. It’s the Hegelian Dialectic: problem — reaction — solution.

The Michael Brown/Darren Wilson case in Ferguson, Missouri has blown up. It has been engineered to do so. See the article below on just how highly organized, scripted and surely funded this thing has become. A state of emergency has preemptively been declared for 30 days in Missouri before the grand jury’s decision has even been announced. “Planned responses” (not protests) have been organized for 83 cities across the nation and Canada. They are even holding informational meetings and “direct action trainings” in the lead up to the decision. The cops are stocking up on riot gear and rubber bullets. Residents are emptying gun stores.

When this first began, we were asking “Where is COINTELPRO?” This video was uploaded August 14th, just five days after Brown was killed:

The Ferguson Riots: Where's COINTELPRO?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkZa1hOh1O8

Since that time, the evidence has only grown.

Ask yourself. Why is this particular case in Ferguson the one that our government and mainstream media have thrown all of their time and resources into? Why has it blown up so fast? Why were high-level shills like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton immediately involved and on the ground in St. Louis within 24 hours after Michael Brown was shot? (They certainly don’t do that every time a black man is shot by police in this country.) Why did our justice department get so intimately involved in Ferguson, with Obama ending his vacation early to meet with Attorney General Eric Holder about it, and Holder ordering not one but two federal autopsies (for a total of three autopsies) on Michael Brown?

Why is it this case of all cases? The one where the subsequent facts coming out don’t exactly paint Michael Brown as the totally innocent victim the media tried to initially portray him as? A case that will definitely divide people on race lines?

Sadly, there are lots of examples of police killing all sorts of totally innocent Americans all the time in this country. Elderly people in supposedly accidental SWAT raids. Mentally ill and disabled people. Children and family pets.

Where are the highly organized, scripted protests for all those people?

As I wrote in the article posted below, cops kill an average of THREE PEOPLE EVERY DAY in this country.

As I asked below, “Where’s the outrage from all Americans on all sides, all races, colors and creeds, on the bigger police state growing all around all of us EVERY SINGLE DAY in America? Where are the organized protests for all those who have died at the hands of an ever-increasing, ratcheted up tyrannical system enslaving us all?”

Instead, the powers that shouldn’t be are using fear to push everyone’s buttons…and, once again just like the tired old playbook predicted the first time it was used so long ago, it’s working. Across the country people are allowing themselves to become little puppets for another Hegelian Dialectic puppet show.

Obama is about to announce executive amnesty Thursday…and none of the three major networks are even carrying the speech (it just so happens to be sweeps, fancy that). How shocked will anyone be if the grand jury comes back Friday to yank everyone’s attention in another direction?

“Hey guys! Don’t look at the right hand! Look over here at the shiny things in the left hand!”

It’s all a time-tested playbook to sow chaos and division on both sides and distract everyone from the bigger picture once again…and it’s working.

Not Just Ferguson: Protests Scheduled for 83 Cities, “Direct Action Trainings” Held for Protesters

by Melissa Melton
Originally published at The Daily Sheeple

Everyone knows the government, with its lapdog mainstream media in lockstep, has whipped up the Ferguson situation into a total frenzy.

It doesn’t matter what the grand jury decides now. Fear and anger are very powerful weapons and everyone who has allowed the powers that (shouldn’t) be to steer their emotions on this one has taken the bait.

The cops have stocked up on nearly $200k worth of riot gear, less-lethal ammunition and the like. Ferguson residents have been advised to go get guns because the cops won’t be able to protect them all from what’s coming. Firearm sales in the area have skyrocketed. Everyone is on edge.

Missouri’s governor has now preemptively declared a 30-day state of emergency and called out the National Guard — and the grand jury hasn’t even made it’s decision yet!

Basically, it’s on.

Ferguson, however, is not the only city set to hold protests immediately following the Darren Wilson grand jury announcement.

Actually, they aren’t even being referred to as protests anymore. They are now being called “planned responses.”

A Tumblr page for something called the “Ferguson National Response Network” has posted a very organized list with graphics for each location (which must have taken a lot of time and effort) detailing these “planned responses” that have been scheduled for a total of 82 cities across the U.S. and one in Canada after the grand jury announces their decision (something which, if it’s as scripted as the rest of this situation has been and continues to be, will be expertly timed with the holidays coming up).

Organizers are also holding something called “direct action trainings.”

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Here’s what that looks like:

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The organizers have also released a list of 19 “Proposed Rules of Engagement.”

Wow. Just wow. This is not your average civil disobedience. Martha Stewart has thrown less organized birthday parties than this. There are White House functions with less planning and training involved.

Anyone else get the sense that this whole thing has been co-opted? Think about it.

When you’re mad about something that’s wrong with the system, what do you do if you want to protest it? You pull out a black marker, get a poster board, call up your friends, maybe send out a few Tweets or Facebook messages, then you find a corner and start protesting.

You don’t get so angry with the system that you first a) write a proposed rules of engagement list, b) start fundraising campaigns, c) set up highly coordinated protests in 83 cities, d) coordinate mass informational meetings and finally e) hold direct action trainings then get ready to protest.

What average, random person has the time and money to pull off all that off properly?

Sure people have been protesting this for months now, but still. What monster has Ferguson now mutated into? Who is ultimately behind it, driving the agenda?

Many of the people who showed up to protest in Ferguson from the beginning were coming from out of town. There were definite provocateurs among the crowds trying to incite violence.

At this point, people are apparently quitting their jobs and flocking to Ferguson to devote all their time and energy to this.

A little over a week ago, The Washington Post ran an article titled, “Ferguson protest organizers: ‘I sleep, eat and breathe this.’”

Really?

Here’s an excerpt:

But a common thread runs through some of the most influential organizers. They are black, relatively new to civil rights activism and technologically savvy, masters of social media. Using Twitter, Vine and Instagram, they mobilize their peers, document every twist and turn, and annotate history in real time.


New to activism, huh? And yet, wow, they just so happen to be influential, savvy tech masters of social media who know how to mobilize everyone? No, that doesn’t stink of George Soros-funded phony color revolution stuff at all… (That was sarcasm, of course.)

On the same day as the WP article came out, The Daily Sheeple published an article about the fact that cops kill an average of THREE PEOPLE EVERY DAY in this country.

Three people a day!

Where’s the outrage from all Americans on all sides, all races, colors and creeds, on the bigger police state growing all around all of us EVERY SINGLE DAY in America? Where are the organized protests for all those who have died at the hands of an ever-increasing, ratcheted up tyrannical system enslaving us all?

There is a highly organized, scripted, funded, targeted agenda playing out in Ferguson, and people are basically falling for it.

The list of cities set for these “planned responses” to the Darren Wilson grand jury decision is below. If you live near one of these things, heads up.

When this all goes down, it’s not going to be pretty…which is exactly the way the people ultimately engineering this situation want it. Can you say “martial law?”

Albany, NY
Albuquerque, NM
Atlanta, GA
Austin, TX
Baltimore, MD
Bangor, ME
Beavercreek, OH
Blacksburg, VA
Boston, MA
Buffalo, NY
Carbondale, IL
Chapel Hill, NC
Chattanooga, TN
Chicago, IL
Cleveland, OH
Columbia, MO
Columbus, OH
Dallas, TX
Denver, CO
Des Moines, IA
Detroit, MI
Durham, NC
Ferguson, MO
Gainesville, FL
Grand Rapids, MI
Greensboro, NC
Greenville, NC
Grinnell, IA
Houston, TX
Indianapolis, IN
Iowa City, IA
Jackson, MI
Kansas City, MO
Kennesaw, GA
Lawrence, KS
Lexington, KY
Longview, TX
Los Angeles, CA
Louisville, KY
Meadville, PA
Memphis, TN
Milwaukee, WI
Minneapolis, MN
Mobile, AL
Monpelier, VT
Monroeville, OH
Nashville, TN
New London, CT
New Orleans, LA
Newark, NJ
Northampton, MA
NYC, NY
Oak Ridge, TN
Oakland, CA
Olympia, WA
Oshkosh, WI
Phoenix, AZ
Philadelphia, PA
Pittsburgh, PA
Portland, OR
Providence, RI
Raleigh, NC
Rochester, NY
Rocky Mount, NC
San Diego, CA
Santa Barbara, CA
Seattle, WA
South Hadley, MA
Spring Valley, NY
Springfield, MA
St. Paul, MN
St. Petersburg, FL
Stroudsberg, PA
Tallahassee, FL
Tampa, FL
Toledo, OH
Toronto, Canada
Tucson, AZ
Washington, D.C.
West Hartford, CT
West Palm Beach, FL
Williamsburg, VA
Worcester, MA

UPDATE: Curiously, Obama has announced that he’s going to be in Las Vegas on Friday (when the media has hinted the grand jury decision might come) after he announces his amnesty decision. Las Vegas is, ever so coincidentally, not on this list…in fact, Nevada isn’t even on this list, period.
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Re: St Louis - Shooting - Riots - Anonymous Threats

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:29 am

thanks for that link ...great stuff

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I talked with a friend in California last night...he said Oakland will be shut down tomorrow..Friday.......he didn't mean by protesters ...he meant the city had decided to shut down because of Ferguson ..so it sounds like a decision has been made and all law enforcements know about it.


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Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Nov 21, 2014 4:25 pm

THU NOV 20, 2014 AT 08:31 PM PST
Video: Police lied. Mike Brown was killed 148 feet away from Darren Wilson's SUV
byShaun King
For 104 days, the police have lied and said Mike Brown was killed 35 feet away from Darren Wilson's SUV. It was actually 148 feet.

This distance is essential to the defense and how Darren Wilson must demonstrate that he "reasonably feared for his safety." At the point in which Mike Brown ran half a football field away, how reasonable is it for an armed officer to fear anyone?

On the afternoon of August 9, 2014, Officer Darren Wilson shot and killed Mike Brown, an unarmed teenager, in Ferguson, Missouri. Below is the first video filmed from Canfield Drive, where the shooting occurred, showing the exact measurement between where Darren Wilson's SUV was parked and Mike Brown died. After that, we methodically debunk the lie that Mike Brown was killed in close proximity to Darren Wilson's SUV.

Our starting point, which is 17 feet behind the driver's side window of Darren Wilson's SUV, is this yellow fire hydrant next to the storm drain.
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Our end point is 2943 Canfield. Notice the building number in the back of this photo below where Mike Brown's father and family members are standing over the exact location where Mike Brown was killed.
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Mike Brown's family at 2943 on Canfield at the exact spot of Mike Brown's death
Watch us measure the distance below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gJ4b6ITfMs
So: 131 feet, 1 inch (distance between the fire hydrant and where Mike Brown died), + 17 feet (distance between the fire hydrant and the driver's side door of Darren Wilson's SUV) = 148 feet.
The St. Louis-area police have continued to advance this lie for over 104 days since Mike Brown was killed on Canfield Drive on the afternoon of August 9 in Ferguson, Missouri. Here we will methodically expose this lie and examine just why it's so important.

On this past Monday, Gov. Jay Nixon declared a state of emergency in Missouri in anticipation of some level of unrest regarding a decision from the grand jury in the Darren Wilson case. Covering this decision, and the case in general, CNN authoritatively states that Mike Brown was found 35 feet away from Darren Wilson's SUV. Watch just the first 20 seconds of this video to see how Erin Burnett frames the case,


Where the Lie Began
On August 10, 2014, St. Louis County Police Chief John Belmar held his first press conference on the shooting of Mike Brown by Officer Darren Wilson of the nearby Ferguson Police Department. His force had been called in to take over the investigation for the much smaller local department. The shooting had occurred less than 24 hours earlier, and the tensions on the ground in Ferguson were already red hot and boiling over.

Six different witnesses on the scene claimed that Mike Brown was shot at repeatedly from behind before he turned around, faced Darren Wilson, verbally surrendered, and put his hands in the air. Wilson, having already shot at Mike Brown at least six times while he fled, then fired off a barrage of four quick shots at the surrendered Brown he was looking at face to face, killing him on the spot. With his lifeless body face down on the road, Mike Brown’s blood literally flowed down Canfield Drive for more than four hours. The shooting and the aftermath that evening, which included bringing police dogs to the scene, infuriated residents as never before, and the anger was spreading rapidly across St. Louis and into the nation.

When Chief Belmar sat down the next day to brief the press on his summary of the facts, he stated at 1:13 (and then even more emphatically at 6:01) in the video below, "The entire scene, from approximately the car door (of Officer Wilson) to the shooting, is, uh, about 35 feet."

See his video below and pay attention to the statements at 1:13 & 6:01.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4osIUmBAWI
At that time, when the chief said the "entire scene" was just 35 feet in distance from the "car door to the shooting," every observer accepted it as a negligible fact and thought little about it, instead zeroing in on why Darren Wilson stopped Mike Brown in the first place and why a police officer would shoot a young man who was surrendering with his hands up.
It turns, out, though, that the distance Mike Brown fled was not 35 feet, as was stated in the press conference and cited in hundreds of articles since. Nor was it 45 feet, or 75 feet, or even 95 feet, but approximately 148 feet away from Darren Wilson’s SUV. Below, you will find photos from the day of the murder, maps, infographics, and more to confirm for you that the distance was more 500 percent farther away than originally claimed by Chief Belmar and subsequently quoted as fact in almost every narrative of the case.

While the initial reporting of this distance from the chief could have been an error, albeit an egregious one, it seems clear now, after over 100 days of requests for the police to clarify this discrepancy have only produced silence, that it wasn’t an oversight, but a deliberate misrepresentation of the facts.

What reason would the chief have for so seriously understating the distance by more than 110 feet? Well, how far Mike Brown fled matters greatly, and the St. Louis County Police Department could have many reasons for purposely understating it. One doubts, though, that they expected to be caught telling this lie. When it was first told, while matters were tense in St. Louis and spreading on social media, nobody had any idea that this case would grip the nation and the world.

Without even using this space to dive into the actual shooting of Mike Brown, it appears that some base level misconduct can be suspected when the St. Louis County Police Department has repeatedly refused to address the discrepancy in distance.

When the police came out the morning after Mike Brown was killed and deliberately included the distance between the SUV and the shooting, it successfully created a very particular narrative. The arc of their initial story, magnified in importance by the absence of even one official report, is that Darren Wilson shot and killed a young man who, in a short distance from the SUV, posed him grave harm. How far Mike Brown actually fled, how far Darren Wilson chased him, and where each of them were in relation to each other and to the SUV, are facts of paramount importance. If Mike Brown fled over 148 feet away from Darren Wilson, it clearly suggests that Brown—unarmed, shot, missing a shoe, in lounge clothes—feared for his life and not the other way around.

Furthermore, police, in many cases, use the distance in which a suspect flees and the distance between them in an encounter as evidence to prove they were reasonably afraid for their safety—which is required by law.

What follows is evidence to the contrary. Mike Brown fled at least 108 feet away from Darren Wilson's SUV. If the police will lie about this fact, what else have they openly lied about? Did they present this false distance to the grand jury? Why does the media continue to advance this lie? Here are the facts.
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Here is a rarely seen panorama of Canfield Drive moments after Mike Brown was killed. Few images better display that the distance was not a very short 35 feet than this one.
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This is Darren Wilson's SUV. Where you see it here is exactly where he parked it to confront Mike Brown and Dorian Johnson for jaywalking. Out of sight in this image, to the left of the driver's side door, is Mike Brown's hat (shown in a later image below). Approximately 16 feet behind the SUV is Mike Brown's black sandal, which came off while he was running. Please notice the fire hydrant to the right of the SUV.
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On the center left is Darren Wilson's SUV from the opposite angle. Notice the two orange cones next to the driver's side door. That's Mike Brown's red St. Louis Cardinals hat next to it.
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Using this image, let's create starting line A. As effective landmarks, please notice the fire hydrant on the right and the sloping entrance into the apartments.
From the back of Darren Wilson's SUV, Brown fled over 100 feet down Canfield Drive. The exact location where Brown died is today marked by a memorial in the middle of the street.
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This is ending line B. Mike Brown is the blurred figure on the ground. That is Darren Wilson, visibly uninjured in every image of him from that day, standing to the right. According to eyewitnesses Dorian Johnson, Tiffany Mitchell, and Piaget Crenshaw, Mike Brown turned around, faced Darren Wilson and his SUV, and put his hands in the air.
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Mike Brown's family at 2943 on Canfield at the exact spot of Mike Brown's death
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This map shows the exact location of 2943, the exact spot where Mike Brown was killed.
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Using Google Maps, the approximate distance from the front of Darren Wilson's SUV to where Mike Brown was shot before falling down is actually 148 feet.
(Thank you to Argus News for measuring and filming the measurement of the distance.)
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Postby Luther Blissett » Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:16 pm

What should we do next?
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Postby freemason9 » Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:33 pm

Luther Blissett » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:16 pm wrote:What should we do next?


Watch cable news, of course, for exciting live coverage!!
The real issue is that there is extremely low likelihood that the speculations of the untrained, on a topic almost pathologically riddled by dynamic considerations and feedback effects, will offer anything new.
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Postby Luther Blissett » Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:20 pm

I was really believing that a majority of people in this country wanted to see an indictment, but now It doesn't seem that way anymore. I don't know the correct next steps.
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Postby Iamwhomiam » Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:47 am

How fucking stupid! They didn't indict him!

They should have indicted him, if only to quell the violence that's sure to come. Not all are as composed as Mr. Brown. Watts in '65, LA in 92...

At least it would have given the appearance of fairness, even if later they threw the case. I would never have imagined, though perhaps I should have, that this was how Homeland Security would bring about martial law.

We'll see. Let's hope for the best.

But everyone awaiting an indictment, were they wise, would keep the peace now and plot and plan for 6 weeks and then raise hell. Surprise!
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Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:52 am

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Anonymous retweeted
Revolution News @NewsRevo · 3m 3 minutes ago
RT @UnToldCarlisle LOS ANGELES: 10 Freeway from La Brea backed up for miles after #Ferguson protesters block freeway

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Alexandra Halaby @iskandrah · 58m 58 minutes ago
#Chi2Ferguson protest just crossed Michigan Ave, in the Loop. #Chicago #Ferguson

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KING 5 News @KING5Seattle · 2h 2 hours ago
This was the view in Seattle as protesters laid in the street at 4th & Pine #Ferguson They are marching now.



Let America Be America Again

Let America be America again.
Let it be the dream it used to be.
Let it be the pioneer on the plain
Seeking a home where he himself is free.

(America never was America to me.)

Let America be the dream the dreamers dreamed—
Let it be that great strong land of love
Where never kings connive nor tyrants scheme
That any man be crushed by one above.

(It never was America to me.)

O, let my land be a land where Liberty
Is crowned with no false patriotic wreath,
But opportunity is real, and life is free,
Equality is in the air we breathe.

(There’s never been equality for me,
Nor freedom in this “homeland of the free.”)

Say, who are you that mumbles in the dark?
And who are you that draws your veil across the stars?

I am the poor white, fooled and pushed apart,
I am the Negro bearing slavery’s scars.
I am the red man driven from the land,
I am the immigrant clutching the hope I seek—
And finding only the same old stupid plan
Of dog eat dog, of mighty crush the weak.

I am the young man, full of strength and hope,
Tangled in that ancient endless chain
Of profit, power, gain, of grab the land!
Of grab the gold! Of grab the ways of satisfying need!
Of work the men! Of take the pay!
Of owning everything for one’s own greed!

I am the farmer, bondsman to the soil.
I am the worker sold to the machine.
I am the Negro, servant to you all.
I am the people, humble, hungry, mean—
Hungry yet today despite the dream.
Beaten yet today—O, Pioneers!
I am the man who never got ahead,
The poorest worker bartered through the years.

Yet I’m the one who dreamt our basic dream
In the Old World while still a serf of kings,
Who dreamt a dream so strong, so brave, so true,
That even yet its mighty daring sings
In every brick and stone, in every furrow turned
That’s made America the land it has become.
O, I’m the man who sailed those early seas
In search of what I meant to be my home—
For I’m the one who left dark Ireland’s shore,
And Poland’s plain, and England’s grassy lea,
And torn from Black Africa’s strand I came
To build a “homeland of the free.”

The free?

Who said the free? Not me?
Surely not me? The millions on relief today?
The millions shot down when we strike?
The millions who have nothing for our pay?
For all the dreams we’ve dreamed
And all the songs we’ve sung
And all the hopes we’ve held
And all the flags we’ve hung,
The millions who have nothing for our pay—
Except the dream that’s almost dead today.

O, let America be America again—
The land that never has been yet—
And yet must be—the land where every man is free.
The land that’s mine—the poor man’s, Indian’s, Negro’s, ME—
Who made America,
Whose sweat and blood, whose faith and pain,
Whose hand at the foundry, whose plow in the rain,
Must bring back our mighty dream again.

Sure, call me any ugly name you choose—
The steel of freedom does not stain.
From those who live like leeches on the people’s lives,
We must take back our land again,
America!

O, yes,
I say it plain,
America never was America to me,
And yet I swear this oath—
America will be!

Out of the rack and ruin of our gangster death,
The rape and rot of graft, and stealth, and lies,
We, the people, must redeem
The land, the mines, the plants, the rivers.
The mountains and the endless plain—
All, all the stretch of these great green states—
And make America again!

Langston Hughes

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People rule and a that you fi follow
We and nuh no call me no nigga
Do a good term and you deserve another
Signed musically yours, the general sleepywonder

People live in misery
Govemment a work
But govemment them is a mockery
Respect to the youths
Whether in front and all dem a back a me
Why don't you treat them the way you should
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They could still get him out of office.
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Postby stickdog99 » Tue Nov 25, 2014 2:00 am

Too bad they discontinued the Academy Award for Best Choreography.
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Postby Project Willow » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:57 am

Heartbreaking. I was stuck in a meeting all night, otherwise I would have been out on the streets. On the way home, the exit ramp to my place was blocked off, we didn't know why. Should have guessed. Protests continue on Capitol Hill as I write.
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Postby Project Willow » Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:38 am

Had this exchange on Fb tonight with a "friend". Weird, really weird...

Lynn Schirmer Everything was calculated and honed to produce the desired results. Entrenched, white, frightened power had its way, from the act to the suppression of free speech and protest, to media spin, to grand jury verdict, to timing of the announcement. I'm enraged and saddened beyond words, but I am not surprised. At least the workings of the machine are laid bare for those who are willing to see.

[respondent] The click bait media made millions. The people had a fight to amuse themselves while the Commander in Chief increased the war he supposedly ended. I'm calling bee-ess on the hot topic frenzy in Ferguson. It's tragic, it's sad, we need to review our militaristic police state-YES!- we need to review our race relations especially with our police force-YES!- but we also need to spend less time reading headlines from online news sites that are more interested in writing the story that delivering the news.

Lynn Schirmer If you think that what happened in Ferguson is unrelated to geopolitical strategy, that the "Commander in Chief" acts solely on his own accord, and that there is some kind of "we" operating in any of this morass, you are naively and sadly mistaken.

Lynn Schirmer And to dismiss the pain of the African American community is beyond cynical... to say the least.

[respondent] Never said one word about the Commander in Chief operating on his own. And geopolitical strategy is not what the media is selling... And by all means don't attempt to belittle me or condescend by using cheap terms like naive, sadly mistaken.

[respondent] You're just dramatic, Lynn. I'm dismissing the pain of the African American? Are you really, a white woman, calling me a racist? Very Seattle. We Atlanta folk have a bit of history you may not be aware of. Ever marched in Anti-Klan rallies in the South? Yep, I have.

Lynn Schirmer This is not a media creation Patti, this is real pain in real time, and it deserves respect.

[respondent] You are not black. You are a white woman. But by all means, feel your pain as you see fit. Don't accuse me of not feeling... It's just plain corny.

Lynn Schirmer I never called you racist, Patti. I'm arguing against your thesis that this is media distraction. I know media distractions, and this isn't one.

[respondent] OK, I'll give you $20 if you can name the man, without Googling, who was shot dead in the Walmart by a cop while holding a toy gun. It was on video, every moment of it. There was no question of what happened...

[respondent] Where's that riot?

[respondent] What happened to those cops?

[respondent] Sure. The click bait media doesn't feed you that one as much, so you don't know about it. MY point is that we're fed these stories, it's not reporting. This shit is happening every day. Dramatic white filks only pay attention when they're told to.

Lynn Schirmer And I'll give you $20 if you can name the man who was shot down by police one day after Michael Brown, whatever, you're straying from the point that you made, that this is a media distraction rather than a grass roots uprising. Respond to that.

[respondent] The militarized police state needs addressing. But from a realistic and sane perspective, not a click bait media frenzied circle jerk.

[respondent] Reality TeeVee folk are leading this shitstorm. DON'T FOLLOW. Think.

[respondent] "Anyone who doesn't agree with me is a racist!!" You know, that bullshit. It's sheep talk.

[respondent] The kid in the Walmart was murdered. The guy after Michael Brown? He was pacing screaming "SHOOT ME!!" to the cops. There are SO MANY incidents. SO MANY. We latch on to one at a time, when there are much clearer cases to present. It's rigged.

Lynn Schirmer You're the only one using the term racist, and it seems your beef is with people on the streets protesting, because that is what is generating the media buzz here. Go tell them they don't protest enough over every single case. You know, every single case, which seems to happen every other day.

Lynn Schirmer There are so many, that is what fuels such great grief, but it is in our nature to select something emblematic in the face of an avalanche. That doesn't translate into falsehood, into "rigging".

[respondent] You KNOW the term racist gets strewn about all over this fodder. And telling me that I, what? Don't feel for the African Americans? Oh come on, passive aggressive... I know people in St Louis who are reporting first hand that the media is inflating the drama. The crowds are not as big as they'd like...

[respondent] I'm just surprised that you're allowing yourself to fall into the drama. I took you for much wiser. Yes, this happens all the time. ANd it's horrible. But even more so when the white folks try to prove their non-racism to the world by over-dramatising the events they're fed and ignoring the thousands of others. It's just not genuine.

Lynn Schirmer The media is on the if it bleeds it leads routine, that's nothing new, but the spirit behind the protests is genuine. The folks in Ferguson reacting to Michael Brown's death, they saw it, first hand they generated this response. It's not a media orchestration. The media however will beckon to power's call and do its will.

[respondent] I seriously doubt that all of these people saw anything first hand. Perhaps this was the final straw. Hopefully it starts a revolution, it's time, but the hands in the air by armchair activists is worth calling out as the bullshit it is. Want to really do something? Get on in there and make a change. Ever marched through Atlanta to get MLK day declare a national holiday? I have.

Lynn Schirmer You really don't know me if think I would ever try to prove anything as silly as non-racism. We're all soaking in racism, it's internalized. Everyone is racist. What breaks my heart more than anything is perceiving the internalized racism at work in everyone, but most especially people of color. I'm not innocent, by no means, I accept daily that I benefit from the color of my skin.

[respondent] Do something.

Lynn Schirmer We all need to do something.

[respondent] Yep. And this isn't it. Everyone's got their Facebook gripes and rants and FEELINGS. It's an extension of the do nothing click bait media. Getting mad and typing about it isn't the shit. There was a shitty turnout in Ferguson and they attempted to beef...See More

[respondent] And no, the story itself is not bullshit. A life lost is not bullshit. The media and people's responses are bullshit. And I'm calling it.

Lynn Schirmer There were protests all over the country, bridges shut down in NYC, exit ramps closed in Seattle, did you miss that? Again, this was a heartfelt reaction to injustice, why are you determined to render it all a cynical exercise?

[respondent] I think I've explained myself ad nauseam. Are you asking a real question? Human emotions are a powerful tool especially when in collaboration. The trends of news are rather telling. This a hot button topic and everyone's FEELINg very deeply about it. There are so many cases being ignored. It's not a cause, it's a fad. It will pass in two weeks, watch. It's the cycle.

[respondent] SALES. This isn't a real issue for the majority of white America. It will pass. It ALWAYS does,

[respondent] unless we're ready for the revolution. Then take to the streets and quit whining...

[respondent] I'm all in.

Lynn Schirmer Okay, people DID take to the streets, people are not whining, but protesting legitimate injustice. Do let me know when the activity meets your standard, which is rather ill defined atm.

[respondent] One day of protest? Wow. Hope that's effective. I'll let you know, sure. Maybe we can review the archives together. Lots of great change took place in our not so distant past. It took a lot more than one day of protest...
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Postby Jerky » Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:55 am

Sorry, Lynn, but I think Respondent kind of got the better of you in that argument.

If you don't think Ferguson is mostly a media creation, I've got a story about a polar bear that I'd like you to read:

http://uselesseaterblog.blogspot.ca/201 ... bears.html

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Postby Dioneo » Tue Nov 25, 2014 8:43 am

Iamwhomiam » Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:47 pm wrote:How fucking stupid! They didn't indict him!

They should have indicted him, if only to quell the violence that's sure to come.


You don't indict someone to "quell violence." You indict someone because it is the right fucking thing to do. For fuck's sake. And, while I'm at it, "to be" is not a transitive verb.

Jerky » Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:55 am wrote:Sorry, Lynn, but I think Respondent kind of got the better of you in that argument.

If you don't think Ferguson is mostly a media creation, I've got a story about a polar bear that I'd like you to read:

http://uselesseaterblog.blogspot.ca/201 ... bears.html

Jerky


And, again, oh for fuck's sake. What fucking planet do you live on? Yes, there are hidden machinations in the world that need to be uncovered, etc. etc. And there has also been systemic violence by your and my fucking white ancestors against Africans for the last 500 fucking years and, at some point, even the white folks say enough is e-fucking-nough. That's why this was covered to the extent it was, not because of some nefarious media plot.
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Postby Jerky » Tue Nov 25, 2014 9:09 am

Wow, Dioneo. I'm sorry. I didn't realize you were standing right there and know exactly what went down from firsthand experience.

I bow to your superior situational awareness.

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