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lmao
hiddenite wrote:http://3dblogger.typepad.com/minding_russia/2013/04/novaya-gazeta-finds-possible-ties-of-tsarnaev-to-extremist-underground-in-dagestan.html
The original and complete Novaya Gazeta article , from which the Telegraph and NY Times built their stories.
It was determined that Tsarnaev came to Makhachkala at the end of January 2012 to see his father and to turn in his Russian passport. He didn’t have a return ticket. During his stay in Dagestan, Tamerlan lived in Makhachkala the entire time and only in March went for a brief period to the Chechen Republic to see his relatives in the Tsarnaevs’ native village of Chiri-Yurt
stillrobertpaulsen wrote:hiddenite wrote:http://3dblogger.typepad.com/minding_russia/2013/04/novaya-gazeta-finds-possible-ties-of-tsarnaev-to-extremist-underground-in-dagestan.html
The original and complete Novaya Gazeta article , from which the Telegraph and NY Times built their stories.
I found an inconsistency (what a shocker!) in this article:It was determined that Tsarnaev came to Makhachkala at the end of January 2012 to see his father and to turn in his Russian passport. He didn’t have a return ticket. During his stay in Dagestan, Tamerlan lived in Makhachkala the entire time and only in March went for a brief period to the Chechen Republic to see his relatives in the Tsarnaevs’ native village of Chiri-Yurt
He couldn't have come to Makhachkala at the end of January 2012 to see his father because his father didn't live there until May!
And now the villain, aside from the two conveniently dead compatriots of Tamerlan's, is WAMY. Which is supposed to make us forget Misha, which is supposed to make us forget Uncle Ruslan. Not operating off their "A script"? You betcha!
stillrobertpaulsen wrote:hiddenite wrote:http://3dblogger.typepad.com/minding_russia/2013/04/novaya-gazeta-finds-possible-ties-of-tsarnaev-to-extremist-underground-in-dagestan.html
The original and complete Novaya Gazeta article , from which the Telegraph and NY Times built their stories.
I found an inconsistency (what a shocker!) in this article:It was determined that Tsarnaev came to Makhachkala at the end of January 2012 to see his father and to turn in his Russian passport. He didn’t have a return ticket. During his stay in Dagestan, Tamerlan lived in Makhachkala the entire time and only in March went for a brief period to the Chechen Republic to see his relatives in the Tsarnaevs’ native village of Chiri-Yurt
He couldn't have come to Makhachkala at the end of January 2012 to see his father because his father didn't live there until May!
And now the villain, aside from the two conveniently dead compatriots of Tamerlan's, is WAMY. Which is supposed to make us forget Misha, which is supposed to make us forget Uncle Ruslan. Not operating off their "A script"? You betcha!
hiddenite wrote:stillrobertpaulsen wrote:hiddenite wrote:http://3dblogger.typepad.com/minding_russia/2013/04/novaya-gazeta-finds-possible-ties-of-tsarnaev-to-extremist-underground-in-dagestan.html
The original and complete Novaya Gazeta article , from which the Telegraph and NY Times built their stories.
I found an inconsistency (what a shocker!) in this article:It was determined that Tsarnaev came to Makhachkala at the end of January 2012 to see his father and to turn in his Russian passport. He didn’t have a return ticket. During his stay in Dagestan, Tamerlan lived in Makhachkala the entire time and only in March went for a brief period to the Chechen Republic to see his relatives in the Tsarnaevs’ native village of Chiri-Yurt
He couldn't have come to Makhachkala at the end of January 2012 to see his father because his father didn't live there until May!
And now the villain, aside from the two conveniently dead compatriots of Tamerlan's, is WAMY. Which is supposed to make us forget Misha, which is supposed to make us forget Uncle Ruslan. Not operating off their "A script"? You betcha!
The blog that came from, I did find the original original,but the babblefish translation was awful, is run by a right-wing Russian expert , but she does have access to some interesting material. I agree, it is written using the anonymous testimony of Russian insiders whose push is for the Chechen rebel angle . I think that the NY Review of books suddenly has the scoop on Misha is an interesting jump .
FourthBase wrote:You mangled the link tags, hiddenite, here it is again:
http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/20 ... ha-speaks/
Don't neglect the comments, there are some great ones there, great questions.
leveymg wrote:“I continue to think that the main thesis of this story is not that the FBI dropped the ball, but that the FSB held the ball. They let nature take its course, with deadly results.”
That’s an intriguing observation, and I think you’ve captured the thing by its tail or at least a toe. There is little question that the Russians,
given the chance, would “let nature take its course” and allow a Chechen terrorist
group such as the Caucasian Emirate blowback on its foreign handlers.
There is, in addition, an added dimension to this and that’s the perennial “intelligence failure” caused by U.S. alphabet agencies not
sharing certain types of information. Even after 9/11, not all compartmentalized programs are revealed to the FBI, Counterterrorism
Fusion Centers and the JTTFs. Hence, we again see headlines, such as this, “CIA Didn’t Share Info with FBI”, Compare,
http://piersmorgan.blogs.cnn.c...
with http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/stor...
Islamic radicalization of exile groups isn't just an
accident, it's been an operational program going back to the late 1970s carried out by US, Canadian and half a dozen allied intelligence services. In the US it originally had the Code
Name "Cyclone," and while ostensibly that CIA program was shut down after the 1993 WTC and "Landmarks" bombing cases, it continued through other means, mainly through a cooperation agreement (the "Safari Club") with the Saudis. See, http://journals.democraticunde...
That sort of coordination of exile groups continues through the present operations against Syria. These covert operations against the Russians and their allies are still ongoing and they remain global in scope.
Finally, I also share the gut feeling that this story, and a similar one that sprang up in Canada --
http://news.nationalpost.com/2...
-- doesn’t smell right, and we’ll see more modified limited hangouts like this.
leveymg wrote:Why a sealed indictment? Not like we don't know what he did. Or, do we?
Stranger and stranger.
8bitagent wrote:Remember, aside from Iraq, Bush has a creepy weird habit of telling the truth.
New interview with Bush on the possible wider Boston conspiracy.
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