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Postby Belligerent Savant » Sat Nov 07, 2020 7:03 pm

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Also, an article covering the health risks involved in excessive use of cloth masks (the irony: those that wear masks extensively -- even outdoors -- are actually harming their health over the long-term, regardless of a cloth mask's dubious-at-best benefit for combating a virus, at least when outdoors keeping distance. What bothers me more, however -- as a father -- is the long-term negative impact on health this may have on children/young adults), and the impact of excess mask/PPE materials on the environment. Fascinating to me that the prospect of the proliferation of these additional sources of PLASTIC registers nary a thought among many that consider themselves environmentalists. :


Face Masks: A Danger to Our Planet, Our Children & Ourselves

It seems like only yesterday that a massive campaign against single-use plastic straws was trending. The much forgotten anti-straw trend was based on astronomical numbers; a suggested 500 million straws used each day in the US alone, with more than half a billion plastic straws being consumed and discarded, every day around the entire globe.

An estimated 8.3 billion plastic straws had come to pollute the planet’s beautiful beaches. The backlash against the straws appeared to be drive by the horrific impacts on the marine environment in particular.

Personal protective equipment (PPE) in 2020, in particular face masks, have become a new genre of pollution. The majority of face masks being purchased and disposed of are single-use surgical masks made of melt-blown fabric manufactured from polypropylene, a type of thermoplastic. The vast majority of all disposable face masks being consumed have two outer layers with a filter between them (polypropylene), made from nonwoven plastic fibres.

The paper COVID-19 Pandemic Repercussions on the Use and Management of Plastics published June 20, 2020 warns that a “monthly estimated use of 129 billion face masks and 65 billion gloves globally, is resulting in widespread environmental contamination.”

194 billion face masks and gloves equates to well over 6 billion face masks being consumed and discarded each and every day.

Based on the aforementioned paper, six months of face masks alone – equates to seven hundred seventy-four billion, while 12 months of consumption, equates to a stunning one trillion five hundred forty-eight billion face masks.

Meanwhile, “Canada alone has ordered more than 153 million N95 respirators, almost 400 million surgical masks and 18 million non-medical face masks. That doesn’t include demand from the private sector.” As a new emerging market, trees (biological communities invisible to the humancentric eye) cannot only be sacrificed on the altar of “green energy”, we can also pulverize them into face “ecofriendly” masks.

What happened to all those who cared about our environmental crises? That of climate change, biodiversity and ocean pollution?

Microplastics & Human Health

Microplastics are tiny plastic fragments less than 5 millimeters in diameter, or about 0.2 inches. They are barely visible to the human eye.

A 2019 study showed that human microplastic consumption ranges from 39,000 to 52,000 particles per day. These estimates increase to 74,000 and 121,000 when inhalation is considered. This amounts to humans ingesting approx. 5 grams of plastic each and every week, 5 grams being the equivalent of a credit card or a US nickel. Earlier in 2019, the European commission’s chief scientific advisers stated:

The evidence [on both environmental and health risks due to microplastics] provides grounds for genuine concern and for precaution to be exercised.


More recently, on August 17, 2020, researchers analyzed 47 human tissue samples. Traces of microplastics were found in all 47 samples.

We have detected these chemicals of plastics in every single organ that we have investigated.”
-- senior researcher Rolf Halden, director of the Arizona State University (ASU) Biodesign Center for Environmental Health Engineering


This begs the question, what will be the result from applying microplastic materials, that is face masks, directly and securely over our air passages?

“Flock” is defined as inhaled microfibers of the plastic. “Flock worker’s lung” is an occupational lung disease caused by exposure to flock in manufacturing processes. People who work in flocking manufacturing processes inhale small pieces of the flock fibers, placing them at risk of interstitial lung disease.

Workers exposed to polypropylene flocking particles have developed flock worker’s lung. The presence of microplastics in human lung tissue was outlined by in a 1998 science paper, following the research of lung tissue belonging to cancer patients who had prolonged exposure to plastic fibers.

In addition to particle pollution causing damage to lung tissue and reducing lung capacity, it worsens other respiratory health issues such as asthma. In 2013, the International Agency for Research on Cancer, an institution belonging to the World Health Organization, concluded that particle pollution causes lung cancer.
An informal survey of a small group of health care workers by myself found that about 50% of workers noted that their masks began to fray at the end of their shift, noting fibers that itched their face and nose.”
https://edwardpentin.co.uk/whats-behind-the-mask/


In occupational flock, “the cutting process results in formation of airborne particles or fibers in the respirable range.” . As facemasks undergo a continuous friction with breathing, talking, and facial movements, it seems likely, if not probable, that microscopic polypropylene microfibers, in some amount, are effectively being ingested into both the body and lungs.

Particles that are not inhaled into the lungs (the vast majority) make their way into our waterways. To be more succinct, every single particle produced, that does not make its way into our bodies, will instead go in to our waterways. The particles are then ingested into the body by humans and non-human life (marine animals and fish), some of which is too, ingested by humans. Of course, in addition, we drink the water, as does non-human life.

…Is this how we protect biodiversity? Is this what we mean by protecting health?

Cloth Masks

To mitigate against this latest environmental and health nightmare, people have been encouraged to wear reusable fabric face coverings comprised of three layers of fabric.

On September 25, 2020, a University of California–Davis study found that the fabric of home-made cloth face coverings release a large amount of fibers into the air. The study underscored the importance of washing them. What is not discussed are the same fibres being inhaled and ingested.

Those in the West, and those who own or have access to a clothes dryer, will know what dryer lint is. Friction causes the fabric fibres to become loose and dislodge during the washing and drying process – resulting in sometimes little, and more often lots – of lint that must be removed after each cycle.

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If microfibers are shedding off clothing, they are shedding off masks. Even cotton ones. In fact, cotton textiles (clothing, towels, etc.) often produce far more lint than other fabrics. Add to this, the inhalation of chemical laundry detergent and chemical fabric “softener” (liquid and sheet form) that many people continue to use in the process of washing and drying the masks.

It is safe to assume that those wearing masks for long periods of time are most at risk. The vast majority of this group would be minimum wage workers, who have no choice but to comply, people of colour, who are told they are more susceptible to the virus than white populations, and children in schools, where masks have been made mandatory.

Our Children

In June 2020, the Children’s Sick Kids Hospital, perhaps the most prestigious hospital in Canada, advised that children, by and large almost completely unaffected by the virus, should not wear masks and added that physical interaction and play was essential for their well-being.

We have suggested that masks not be required when children return to school.”
-- Michelle Science MD, MSc, FRCPC, Division of Infectious Diseases, The Hospital for Sick Children, Assistant Professor, Department of Paediatrics, University of Toronto


Close interaction such as playing and socializing is really central to child development and should not be discouraged…Overall we think it’s not realistic or in children’s best interests to completely avoid all close interaction and play.”
-- Dr Daphne Korczak, Pediatrics, Psychiatry


For children and adolescents, masks are an absolute no-no. Children and adolescents have an extremely active and adaptive immune system and they need a constant interaction with the microbiome of the Earth. Their brain is also incredibly active, as it is has so much to learn. The child’s brain, or the youth’s brain, is thirsting for oxygen. The more metabolically active the organ is, the more oxygen it requires. In children and adolescents every organ is metabolically active.”
-- Dr. Margarite Griesz-Brisson MD, PhD , Consultant Neurologist and Neurophysiologist [full transcript - REMOVED from Youtube]


These recommendations were largely ignored by the media and, despite the warnings, the government and school boards made masks and social distancing mandatory for children.

The hospital further reported that 1500 asymptomatic children were tested, none tested positive [see this Twitter thread: https://twitter.com/elleprovocateur/sta ... 5151434753]

In the following presentation, Professor Franz Ruppert explains the impact of the pandemic from a psychological point of view. Ruppert explains how and why people currently suffer when their essential needs are taken; why children in particular are extremely affected; how current “protective” measures achieve this effect; and whether these measures are justified. In relation to how masks affect children, and toddlers in particular, Rupert draws out attention to the “still face experiment”:




While in mainstream media, face masks are made fashionable and politically correct, censored from mainstream media, across the world, there are thousands of nurses and doctors with absolutely contrary views on the wearing of masks, the science itself, and the level of risk that the virus presents to society. Indeed, it is difficult to contest that the “cure” is far worse than the disease. Ignored (“look away”) are all other deaths related to limited or suspended healthcare services/treatments/diagnoses, suicides, suspended addiction services propelling an opioid epidemic, resulting in climbing overdoses; the collateral damage. The list is as long as it is tragic, all resulting from the singular focus on one virus. (But they care about your health.)

Here we can add that the very premise of the mandatory legislations, that people who may be infected with COVID-19, but may be asymptomatic, thereby can transmit the virus to others, – is also highly contested not just by scores of scientists and doctors, but by the WHO itself. On June 8, 2020, Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, head of the WHO’s emerging diseases and zoonosis unit, stated in a press conference “From the data we have, it still seems to be rare that an asymptomatic person actually transmits onward to a secondary individual. It’s very rare… much of that is not published in the literature…” Following backlash Van Kerkhove faced pressure and attempted to distance herself from her carefully articulated statements.


On June 11,2020, the article was amended with a correction: “This article was updated to include a more complete explanation of asymptomatic and pre-symptomatic transmission as well as to change the headline. An earlier version of the headline should have said most asymptomatic coronavirus patients aren’t spreading new infections. The word “most” was inadvertently omitted.”

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From the paper “Advice on the use of masks in the context of COVID19, Interim guidance”, June 5, 2020, World Health Organization [Source]

[Further reading: “A study on infectivity of asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 carriers”, May 13, 2020. “Conclusion: In summary, all the 455 contacts were excluded from SARS-CoV-2 infection and we conclude that the infectivity of some asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 carriers might be weak.” https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P]

[Further reading: Architects for Social Housing, Asymptomatic Transmission of Coronavirus, June 11, 2020]




Put your mask away. Come back to the light. We need you.

This is an abridged extract of a longer article. You can read the full piece on The Art of Annihilation

http://www.theartofannihilation.com/man ... ty-crisis/

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Mon Nov 09, 2020 9:00 am

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Official data is 'exaggerating' the risk of Covid and talk of a second wave is 'misleading', 500 academics tell Boris Johnson in open letter attacking lockdown

By Joe Davies For Mail online
20:11 EST 07 Nov 2020 , updated 03:21 EST 08 Nov 2020

- Medics and scientists said the national Covid response is 'disproportionate'

- A letter organised by UsForThem criticised testing for producing 'false positives'

- Doctors said the Government's response is 'causing more harm than good'

Official data is 'exaggerating' the risk of Covid-19 and talk of a second wave is 'misleading', nearly 500 academics told Boris Johnson in open letter attacking lockdown.

The doctors and scientists said the Government's response to the coronavirus pandemic has become 'disproportionate' and that mass testing has distorted the risk of the virus.

They said tests are likely to be producing high numbers of 'false positive' results and the Government must do more to put infection and death rates within the context of normal seasonal rates.

The letter criticised the Government's handling of coronavirus for 'causing more harm than good'.

It comes after the UK yesterday confirmed a further 24,957 positive Covid tests, up just 13.9 per cent on last week's total.

Top scientists suggested the UK's second wave of coronavirus has already peaked.

Professor Tim Spector, who leads the Covid Symptom Study app aiming to track the spread of Covid-19 in the UK, confirmed that there were 'positive signs' the country has 'passed the peak of the second wave'.

The open letter to the Prime Minister was signed by 469 medics and is titled First Do No Harm - the medical principle that a cure must never be worse than the disease itself.

The letter reads: 'The management of the crisis has become disproportionate and is now causing more harm than good.

'We urge policy-makers to remember that this pandemic, like all pandemics, will eventually pass but the social and psychological damage that it is causing risks becoming permanent.

'After the initial justifiable response to Covid-19, the evidence base now shows a different picture.

'The problem of functional false positive rates has still not been addressed and particularly in the context of low prevalence of disease whereby false positives are likely to exceed true positives substantially and moreover correlate poorly with the person being infectious.


'Alongside this we have the issue that it is normal to see an increase in illness and deaths during the winter months.

'It is notable that [the] UK death rate is currently sitting around average for this time of year. The use of the term 'second wave' is therefore misleading.


'We have the knowledge to enable a policy that protects the elderly and vulnerable without increasing all other health and economic harms and which is not at the expense our whole way of life and particularly that of the nation's children.'

The open letter was organised by the parent campaign UsForThem and Recovery, a new group opposing strong coronavirus restrictions.

It comes amid warnings that the country needed 'dramatic action' to reduce Covid-19 transmission, despite the Government's 'ghastly' presentation of data to justify the latest lockdown.

Today's case numbers saw a rise of just 3,045 on last Saturday's total of 21,915.

A further 413 people have died after testing positive for the virus, official figures released today have revealed, bringing the UK's total death toll during the pandemic to 48,888.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... hnson.html

And:

https://usforthem.co.uk/sign-the-petition

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Speak up for your child.


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We, the parents, guardians, grandparents, teachers, carers and all concerned for the welfare of our children, call on the government to reopen schools without delay and without disproportionate social distancing measures.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Harvey » Mon Nov 09, 2020 10:42 am

^ I've been digging into the founders a little (site was registered anonymously in May) and there's something that doesn't ring true about them. Some of them could be exactly what they appear to be, disgruntled Tories; many of them were aggressively against Jeremy Corbyn, some of them are very pro Brexit and the people they tend to cite most are among those who worked tirelessly to destroy any chance of a free and fair election in 2019 and Jeremy Corbyn in particular. They all seem to exist in a permanent daze. It smells like some kind of PR initiative with a number of unwitting dupes carrying the baggage. To what end? :shrug:

I'd need to look more closely and I may be wrong when I say that something isn't quite right about them.
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Postby Belligerent Savant » Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:06 am

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That's a good call-out, Harvey. Regardless of the merits of their statements/petition, there may be underlying political motivations for this. Can't be surprising, if so.

Haven't looked closely at the parties involved yet, either, but plan to do so.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Harvey » Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:29 am

Belligerent Savant » Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:06 pm wrote:.

Regardless of the merits of their statements/petition, there may be underlying political motivations for this. Can't be surprising, if so.


Agreed. There is merit to the argument.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Elvis » Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:45 pm

It occurs to me that the economic effect of the lockdowns is similar to that of a "general strike" and wondering what lessons might be drawn.

Millions of workers suddenly not working, buying less, producing less. Business sector seems real anxious for America to "get back to work!" Do I detect a weak spot?

What if America said, "Fuck off, until we have proper healthcare and decently paid work."
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Mon Nov 09, 2020 2:16 pm

^^^^^^
Indeed.

This Biden "COVID-19 Advisory Panel" is a predictable/troubling sign of what this administration -- if indeed Biden's election is confirmed -- has in store for the coming year+.

"There’s a need for bold action to fight this pandemic. We’re still facing a very dark winter*...infection rates are going up, hospitalizations are going up, deaths are going up," Biden said during the video briefing, after which he did not take questions.


*again with the 'Dark Winter' reference. Who the F is telling him to use that phrase?

Aggravating, to put it mildly.


https://democratherald.com/opinion/lett ... 23206.html

I'd like to share the idealism/optimism expressed in this missive below, in the 'Opinions' section of an Albany NY paper.

The official nonsensical and fraudulent narrative that is the corona “panic” virus is unraveling and the public deception soon to be exposed.

The German Corona Extra-Parliamentary Inquiry Committee will be working with an international network of lawyers to argue the most massive tort case ever. They are arguing the draconian pandemic lockdowns were intended to propagate panic, allowing pharmaceutical and tech companies to generate huge profits from the sale of PCR tests, antigen and antibody tests, and from the coming vaccines.

A video announcement by Dr. Reiner Fuellmich, a consumer protection trial lawyer in California and Germany, states the international class-action lawsuit will be filed against those responsible for implementing the economically devastating lockdowns around the world, as well as using fraudulent testing to engineer the appearance of a dangerous pandemic. Local policy makers to the World Health Organization as well as drug companies will be included in the lawsuit, with 50 countries involved.

The cost in financial and human terms of our senseless lockdowns here in the U.S. alone is daunting. School and university closures here and in 164 nations have affected 1.5 billion students. Notable increases in domestic violence, child abuse, physical and sexual abuse, substance abuse, with suicide hotline calls up 600%. More than 100,000 U.S. small businesses have permanently closed, never to reopen.

As of July 1, 14.7 million jobs have been lost, and those unemployed now total 17 million. The evidence-based truth and a legal reckoning are coming.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:00 pm

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Co-sign with Mr. Wells. No f'ing way I will comply with this if it ever happens. 99.9% survival rate for those under 70, and the fact they're even entertaining this notion should trouble EVERY non-elite person in this country.

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Amazing, the trajectory of this f'ing scam on the people.

The extent of the actions taken to date have not been justified, and they're only escalating rather than adjusting downward.


This is what happens when the public blindly adheres to measures that defy logic and SCIENCE.

They're testing the willingness of the herd to dutifully submit to encroachment on basic human rights.

First it was cloth mask mandates, which many were duped into believing were a temporary, or even necessary, means to combat this flu strain.

This is the next step. Forced vaccinations, "If the voluntary vaccinations do not succeed in reaching the immunity threshold". Anyone trusting the measurement of such criteria deserves their fate.

And rest assured, this is merely the 'pilot' phase.

Even if this doesn't pass now, what happens when there's another virus -- surely to be more 'harmful', in the future? Anything not passed now will come down hard in the next 'wave'.

Let's hope, for all our sakes, that i'm merely over-reacting and it'll never come to pass.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Grizzly » Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:55 pm

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2019/s2994/amendment/original

here’s the bill S994 check it out it’s just trying to repeal religious exemptions this is sick. In the event that voluntary vaccinations fall short of their desired goal, which is up to them and they can move said goalposts, this would clear the way towards no exceptions mandatory vaccination.
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Postby Belligerent Savant » Mon Nov 09, 2020 9:15 pm

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Meanwhile:

https://abcnews.go.com/International/15 ... d=73497257


150 million people set to fall into 'extreme poverty' due to COVID pandemic, World Bank warns

Extreme poverty is defined as living under $1.90 a day.


"FIRST, DO NO HARM" --- FAIL.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Tue Nov 10, 2020 5:58 pm

Elvis » 10 Nov 2020 03:45 wrote:It occurs to me that the economic effect of the lockdowns is similar to that of a "general strike" and wondering what lessons might be drawn.

Millions of workers suddenly not working, buying less, producing less. Business sector seems real anxious for America to "get back to work!" Do I detect a weak spot?

What if America said, "Fuck off, until we have proper healthcare and decently paid work."


Youse should.

Get organised...

Crisotunity and all that. The bad guys are taking advantage of this situation. You should be too.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby mentalgongfu2 » Wed Nov 11, 2020 5:16 am

Good thing a resolution by the New York Bar Association has no authority on any actual law and only slightly more influence on lobbying for legislation than the local Lions club.

While concerns about how the pandemic is being used to consolidate power and implement agendas are valid, let us not forget that the communist Chinese government didn't shut down the entire nation for months just out of some fancy to screw with the West. Before it made big news stateside with the cruise ships that Trump didn't want to disembark (because he "liked the numbers where they were"), I was hearing from my company's Chinese partners about the factory shutdowns due to what they called in their translation the "novel coronavirus," which is in many ways a better descriptor than we have adopted in the English speaking world. It is novel, as in new and unusual. To constantly compare it to the flu is foolish.

And the arguments about "dying from coronavirus" and "dying with coronavirus" represent a gross misunderstanding of how death and disease are reported and have been reported for decades in the health industry. It's like debating whether the thing that killed someone was the push or the fall or the ground. One doesn't happen without the other. This information is easily accessible from reputable sources, and a wide enough variety of them that anyone who cares to should be able to find it somewhere that isn't immediately deemed objectionable by some arbitrary metric such as having once having taken money from the Gates Foundation. The fact that so many otherwise intelligent people seem incapable of making this distinction baffles and disheartens me.

I just found out another friend of a friend, similar in age to me (40ish), caught Covid and died almost immediately. This shit never happened with the flu, this thing where I knew multiple people who just up and died in days within contracting the thing, on top of all the people I don't know who I hear about from my nurse friends on the big bad FB. The pretension that it's a hoax is ludicrous from my POV. Not because a large-scale hoax is impossible; but because it doesn't fit with the evidence before me.

Before I heard about my friend's loss, I spent the day listening to the podcast Oh No Ross and Carrie (ONRAC) and their exploration of the flat earth movement from a few years back. Now, they approach things admittedly as skeptics in the James Randi vein, which is to generally assume extraordinary claims are BS at worst or irrelevant at best, but there is something to be said for such a technique when a topic is so thoroughly interwoven with BS and assertion that is claimed as evidence. To cherry pick an example from earlier in the thread - if plastic masks are an environmental problem, let's address it as an environmental problem. If people should not be washing fabric masks in detergent or using dryer sheets, we can address that too. None of those things are arguments that masks are ineffective at preventing droplet transmission. Admittedly, those arguments ARE in the article, highlighted by some selective quoting and a reference to thousands of medical professionals who are unwilling to speak on the record and/or censored by the media. Have you looked at the media today? Do you really think someone with credentials who holds that view is silent for fear of retribution? They could have a prime time talkshow on Fox News or their ilk within a week if they came forward, even if they didn't have evidence to back their claims. People like that already do! For however much they might be outcast by one community, they would be full embraced by another. So we're expected to believe this myriad of people exist but are too afraid to speak up; whereas, equally possible is that these people don't actually exist and are just a rhetorical device for the author to give weight to an assertion that has no reputable backing.

....I digress... I'm angry. I don't pretend to know the real score. But I know enough to see that a lot of the people who claim to know the score and are quick to sell us on how we're being lied to are actually talking out of their asses and may well be the ones doing the lions share of the lying. It ain't much, but it's the best I've got. Even in a "post-truth" world, the rhetorical techniques of fabricators and manipulators are the same as they've always been. They might have fancier videos and more graphs is all. I certainly won't be chomping at the bit to get in line for the first ever mRNA vaccine from Pfizer, but neither do I think it's a ploy to implant 5G or a tracking device or any of the other standard scare BS being promoted by the most prolific of the Covid-denying crowd. There are enough real reasons to be scared and skeptical of the world around us and the proffered solutions that we don't need to latch on to the imaginary ones.

As for a "dark winter," I have not delved too deep into the supposed operation of years ago that bears this name. I read a bit about it on RI, but will admit I have not done a deep dive yet. It seems to me "dark winter" is a pretty obvious phrase for the season in which we have the least amount of light during a year in which people are dying and many are socially constricted due to a global pandemic. Perhaps Biden is referencing it with a deeper meaning. I won't rule it out. But winter and dark go together like peanut butter and jelly; it hardly seems the kind of pull that is on par with "like a duck in a noose."
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:28 am

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To your last point re: "Dark Winter": In my assessment, the phrase is more than mere happenstance. Even the would-be VP has joined in on the specific/explicit (and recurring, to this point) call out of this "Dark Winter". See additional example below, again via Jeff's twitter feed:

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NOTE: this reference to 'dark winter' may well be little more than a gaslighting effort rather than legit call to an underlying specific 'operation' (I mean, other than the operations already underway).

My point is: to what extent are these words/phrases being deliberately planted precisely to raise the eyebrows and 'online concern' of would-be web-sleuths?

The psych warfare aspect may be illusory, or very real. Time will tell.

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As with most large-scale crises, there will be extreme views on both spectrums of thought (sheer anti-covid vs dutiful followers of govt messaging, for example). With respect to any virus or pathogen, there is always potential for anomalous scenarios -- I have similar anecdotes of those I knew from around my area that were otherwise seemingly healthy and succumbed suddenly to this virus. But these are outliers. And in any event, these instances do not justify the broad-ranging measures taken, of course.

But, to your point: from all available information, COVID-19 is no standard 'flu', and such an argument has never been made here, at least not by me (my prior indications that the numbers -- when excluding the outliers like old age/immunity-compromised individuals -- are in-line with yearly flu deaths is not an indication that this strain is just like the flu, though I presume you're speaking more broadly about certain sentiment out there).

My driving point here is that this virus, which maintains a 99.9% survival rate for those 70 and under, is being utilized as a catalyst for other more sinister objectives, demonstrably, and we need to be pushing back against these attempted mandates en masse. Unlikely to happen, unfortunately, as the fear tactics and outright false-framing around this topic will ensure many will remain on the fence, if not outright sold on the 'official' narratives.

Tragic.

Meanwhile:

In his book Covid-19: The Great Reset, World Economic Forum globalist Klaus Schwab asserts that the world will “never” return to normal, despite him admitting that coronavirus “doesn’t pose a new existential threat.

Schwab has continually pushed for COVID to be exploited to push for a new world order, claiming, “Now is the historical moment of time not only to fight the… virus but to shape the system… for the post-corona era.”

However, he goes further in the book, making it clear that the financial elite will never allow life to return to normal, suggesting that rolling lockdowns and other restrictions will become permanent.

“Many of us are pondering when things will return to normal,” writes Schwab. “The short response is: never. Nothing will ever return to the ‘broken’ sense of normalcy that prevailed prior to the crisis because the coronavirus pandemic marks a fundamental inflection point in our global trajectory.”

The globalist makes this assertion despite admitting that the threat posed by COVID pales in comparison to previous pandemics.

“Unlike certain past epidemics, COVID-19 doesn’t pose a new existential threat,” he writes.

Schwab makes clear that the ‘Fourth Industrial Revolution’ or ‘The Great Reset’ will fundamentally change how the world operates.

“Radical changes of such consequence are coming that some pundits have referred to as ‘before coronavirus’ (BC) and ‘after coronavirus’ (AC) era. We will continue to be surprised by both the rapidity and unexpected nature of these changes – as they conflate with each other, they will provoke second-, third-, fourth- and more-order consequences, cascading effects and unforeseen outcomes,” he writes.
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https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/our-work/events-archive/2001_dark-winter/about.html

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About the Exercise

On June 22-23, 2001, the Center for Strategic and International Studies, the Johns Hopkins Center for Civilian Biodefense Studies, the ANSER Institute for Homeland Security, and the Oklahoma City National Memorial Institute for the Prevention Terrorism, hosted a senior-level war game examining the national security, intergovernmental, and information challenges of a biological attack on the American homeland. (See also: Dark Winter Script • Article: Shining Light on Dark Winter)...

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