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Postby Ben D » Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:32 am

Hi brainpanhandler, I have no problems with the questions you raise.

Of course, those of us who seek understanding must question the understanding of those whom we share our understanding with, or else we may all fall in the ditch.

But the truth is, as it stands, no one really understands the absolute truth concerning this subject, but keep on seeking understanding for the means to an end is ultimately synonymous with that end.

If you understand this, then you understand what I understand, if not then I caution,.. try not to worry yourself over things that you do not understand!
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Postby brainpanhandler » Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:51 am

WTF?

Let there be no misunderstanding, I already understand that you will believe that I am misunderstanding when I say that it is my understanding that all this talk of understanding and misunderstanding is idiotic.
"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." - Martin Luther King Jr.
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Postby Ben D » Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:09 am

brainpanhandler wrote:WTF?

Let there be no misunderstanding, I already understand that you will believe that I am misunderstanding when I say that it is my understanding that all this talk of understanding and misunderstanding is idiotic.


Hi brainpanhandler, like what was said to Penguin, getting closer but at the moment it is imitative.

Your command that there be no misunderstanding does not depend on your non-existent authority, until you understand what you are, you will never be able to understand who you are, and anyone who is an actor has no authority to determine reality!
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Postby Penguin » Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:11 pm

Penguin wrote:Ive said all Im going to say for now, Ben D.
Ill let you speak for yourself.


Except - I dont claim to understand anything else but this -
Balance - or the lack of it, currently.
And when pushed off balance, patterns go chaotic,
until a new balance is achieved (a dynamic flux-balance)
Do you understand this?
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Postby freemason9 » Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:37 pm

This has become a train wreck.
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Postby rrapt » Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:52 pm

I've got a first-aid kit if you need it for the wreck victims. Was designed specifically for arctic explorers. Earmuffs, dressings for polar bear bites, frostbite medicine...
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Postby Penguin » Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:40 pm

Did you remember zinc cream?
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Postby Ben D » Fri Feb 20, 2009 7:01 pm

LOL freemason9, rrapt, and Penguin.

Though perhaps not to worry, penguins thrive in the wint(l)er environment.
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Postby Penguin » Fri Feb 20, 2009 7:42 pm

Yea, I love winter (in real life)...
Been out in the woods in -38 Celsius. That was cool.
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Postby wintler2 » Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:22 pm

..I chatter, chatter, as I flow
To join the brimming river,
For men may come and men may go,
But I go on for ever. Tennyson


How apt Ben D, i couldn't have named the point of your twee word games better myself.
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Postby Ben D » Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:54 pm

Why thank you friend wintler2, I am touched.

There's appears little amiss with my self esteem at most times, but to consider me immortal, well shucks :oops:
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Postby wintler2 » Sat Feb 21, 2009 1:40 am

Ben D wrote:..Though perhaps not to worry, penguins thrive in the wint(l)er environment.

:roll:
Penguins in decline due to global warming
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/global ... 033833.ece
..Sea ice on the western peninsula of Antarctic has retreated 40 per cent in the last three decades and is thought to be partly to blame for huge falls in the stocks of krill, a shrimp-like creature eaten by the penguins. Another factor is overfishing by humans. ..

The quantities of krill, which live under the ice where they feed on microscopic plant life, are estimated to have fallen 80 per cent in the last decade alone in part of the conbtinent’s western peninsula.

Warming in the Antarctic western peninsula is taking place about five times faster than other parts of the planet.

Nesting sites are destroyed by the the melting ice and the emperor penguins have suffered more thyan any other species in Antarctica.

Gentoos and chinstraps are being forced further south by the warming temperatures and this is putting extra pressure on the emperors and Adelie species. ..
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Postby Penguin » Sat Feb 21, 2009 5:57 am

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... guins.html

Penguin Chicks Frozen by Global Warming?
John Roach
for National Geographic News
July 2, 2008

This January—deep summer in Antarctica—explorer Jon Bowermaster suffered through a five-day stretch of torrential rains on the west side of the Antarctic Peninsula. The same cannot be said for thousands of downy penguin chicks.

Epic rains are unusual in Antarctica, even in summer, said Bowermaster, who had been in the region on an expedition funded in part by the National Geographic Society's Expeditions Council.

With daytime temperatures above freezing, the rains soaked young Adélie and gentoo penguins not yet equipped with water-repellent feathers (see video below).

At night, when the mercury dipped below freezing, the wet chicks froze.

(Related: "Adelie Penguins Extinct in a Decade in Some Areas?" [December 28, 2007].)

"Many, many, many of them—thousands of them—were dying," Bowermaster said.

The experience, he added, painted a clear and grim picture of the impact of global climate change.

"It's not just melting ice," he said. "It's actually killing these cute little birds that are so popular in the movies."

The freezing of chicks is just one example of how human activity is endangering about two thirds of all penguin species, according to a new paper based on decades of research and observations.

The conservation biologist behind the paper, Dee Boersma of the University of Washington, points out some of the many ways penguins are suffering, such as by ingesting oil from spills, by being run over by tourists, by having their nesting times confused by climate change, and by losing their prey to changing currents.

For nearly 25 years Boersma has studied a population of Magellanic penguins at Punta Tombo, Argentina, with partial funding from the National Geographic Society's Committee for Research and Exploration. (The National Geographic Society owns National Geographic News.)

She and her colleagues have watched that population decline by 22 percent since 1987, with the biggest drop coming in 1991 after a major oil spill.

The colony has also lost members to fishing nets, starvation linked to overfishing, and shifting ocean currents that force penguins to swim farther from their nests to feed.

"Penguins are going about 60 kilometers [37 miles] farther to find food than they did a decade ago," she writes in the paper, published today in the journal BioScience.


(See photos of penguins.)

Global Warming

Increasing temperatures are also affecting breeding populations in Antarctica by breaking up ice, changing precipitation patterns, and altering nesting times, Boersma writes.

In 2006 she visited the seasonal sea-ice home of the penguin colony featured in the 2005 movie March of the Penguins. The region was uncharacteristically ice free.

Apparently sensing danger, the penguins had marched the colony several miles farther inland to more protected ice. A windstorm a few weeks later broke up the ice, forcing the birds into the water.

While the adults could survive, the young chicks had yet to fully develop and most likely all died, Boersma notes.

In the Galápagos Islands a penguin population is down to just 2,500 birds from the nearly 10,000 that were there when Boersma first studied the birds in the 1970s.

More frequent El Niño weather patterns—believed to be a consequence of climate change—are pushing penguin prey further out to sea, which is causing the Galápagos seabirds to starve, she noted.

On South African islands, where penguins burrow into mound of seabird droppings to make nests, humans harvesting the guano for fertilizer contributed to a penguin population decline from 1.5 million a century ago to 63,000 breeding pairs today.

Even tourists, Boersma said, can wreak havoc on penguins. At Punta Tombo, Argentina, for example, vehicles ran over five penguins in January 2007.

"The visitors who flock to Punta Tombo are loving the penguins to death," she wrote.

Poster Species?

Boersma would rather see humans' affection for penguins focused into efforts to improve the birds' marine environments.

"If people really know that we're having this kind of effect on penguins, we might change how we do business," she said.

But Boersma isn't just interested in raising awareness.

She advocates the creation of an international institution that regularly monitors penguins to gain insight into changes in the ocean food chain and long-term climate variation. Such an effort would make the seabirds "marine sentinels," she said.

"If we can understand more about them, we presumably could reduce the problems that penguins and other species are having—and maybe save ourselves," she said.

The idea of using penguins as a poster species is not novel, according to David Ainley, an ecologist and penguin expert with ecological consulting firm H.T. Harvey & Associates in San Jose, California.

For example, Ainley noted the California-based Center for Biological Diversity petitioned the U.S. government in 2006 to list ten penguin species under the Endangered Species Act.

"Because penguins are so well known, [the center's] agenda was to use them as a kind of handle to increase awareness of climate change," he said.

Ainley said Boersma makes a "nice" case that penguins could serve as useful, attractive environmental monitors. In fact, several Antarctic penguin species are already monitored under the Antarctic Treaty System—a series of agreements among states operating on the continent—he noted.

Bowermaster, the explorer and writer, said any studies that highlight changes in the marine environment, especially those in Antarctica due to global climate change, are valuable.

"If you can use penguins to that end," he said, "I would say great."
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Postby Ben D » Sat Feb 21, 2009 6:54 am

Sorry folks, no fluffy penguins being threatened in this story for an emotional read, just cold hard scientific research stuff.

Antarctic summer sea ice concentration and extent

Antarctic sea ice cover has shown a slight increase (<1%/decade) in overall observed ice extent as derived from satellite mapping from 1979 to 2008, contrary to the decline observed in the Arctic regions.
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Postby Penguin » Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:11 am

Ben D wrote:Sorry folks, no fluffy penguins being threatened in this story for an emotional read, just cold hard scientific research stuff.

Antarctic summer sea ice concentration and extent

Antarctic sea ice cover has shown a slight increase (<1%/decade) in overall observed ice extent as derived from satellite mapping from 1979 to 2008, contrary to the decline observed in the Arctic regions.

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