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greencrow0 wrote:Jeff:
My POV is...
If the MSM is saying it...if must be a lie....
We still do not know for sure who killed Litvinenko and who gave the order for his elimination. But, let’s agree, against the background of everything that is happening in Russia today, it is hard to exclude the scenario that the special services were involved in it.
These aspects of Russian news remind me more and more of Italy's plot-ridden, extremely factionalised and out-of-control "deviated" secret services in the strategy-of-tension years ... complete with false-flag bombings and murders. Our intel plotters (consisting of powerful faction-networks inside Italian intel services) operated 99.9% outside direct government knowledge and control, btw - in particular, they fancied the idea of bringing down the govt. in favour of a military coup, had both mafia and far-right ties. Also some evidence they had some CIA (or CIA faction) backing and occasional Mossad links.
Do they wash teapots in English hotels ?
After weeks of daily washing in a big machine with all the other teapots, this one still bears forensic evidence the other ones have not ?
I'd like a word from C about that...
F
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C
Good point, F.
... Of course, we've all seen teapots with that brown deposit on them. That could retain the polonium, although if it were washed with other teapots with brown deposit, they probably would pick it up too.
... The media are notorious for their scare inaccuracies in anything having to do with radiation. It's possible that the polonium became chemically bound to the teapot or the brown deposit and wouldn't leach into later drinks.
Russia cannot identify origin of uranium seized in Georgia
MOSCOW, January 26 (RIA Novosti) - Russian experts are unable to establish the origin of highly-enriched uranium that was allegedly seized from a Russian national in Georgia, as an inadequate sample was provided by Tbilisi, a specialist said Friday.
A Georgian court sentenced Oleg Khinsagov, from the Russian North Caucasus republic of North Ossetia, to eight years in prison Thursday for attempting to sell 100 grams of HEU, according to the Georgian Interior Ministry.
"About a year ago, our institute received an insignificant sample from Georgia. It was established that the material was regenerated highly-enriched uranium," said Igor Skabura, deputy director of the Russian Scientific Research Institute of Non-Organic Materials.
He said the amount was insufficient for a comprehensive analysis, and that the institute had asked for an additional sample of material, but had received no response from the Georgian side.
"We were therefore unable to establish either its origin, or the regeneration method used," he said.
Georgian authorities said they had withheld information as the investigation sought to identify other suspects involved in the case, but that Georgia was cooperating with Russia and had sent samples of the enriched uranium for verification and testing.
Three Georgian citizens in the case were also convicted and sentenced to between four and six years in prison.
Another Russian nuclear expert said Georgia's arrest and sentencing of the Russian national was "a planned information provocation."
"Georgia and the U.S. nuclear officials who have been investigating this incident for over a year decided to make this information public at the start of the Russian president's visit to India, at a time when the two countries planned to sign a memorandum on the construction of four additional reactors for a nuclear power plant in India," said Andrei Cherkasenko, board chairman of AtomPromResursy, a manufacturer of equipment for the nuclear power industry.
Cherkasenko said Georgia had not informed the International Atomic Energy Agency (the UN's nuclear watchdog) about the incident, and denied Georgia's allegations that Russian experts had refused to cooperate in the investigation.
He also said that the investigation had never produced evidence that the enriched uranium had been manufactured in Russia.
Konstantin Zatulin, director of the CIS Countries Institute, told us that there is nothing surprising about operations where Georgian secret services work side by side with CIA. "US secret services have taken over. That's the policy of President Mikhail Saakashvili, you know," Zatulin said. "No wonder the story of the uranium-235 of alleged Russian origin surfaced now, following the Litvinenko incident." Zatulin doesn't rule out the possibility that the leak was arranged to portray Russia as a source of smuggled nuclear materials.
"The Georgian side has never approached the Embassy in connection with the matter," says Ivan Volynkin from the Russian Embassy in Tbilisi. "That's an old story. I don't know why they would drag it out into the spotlight now. Still, I wouldn't over- dramatize it or seek a connection with the ambassador's return, if I were you." The Information and Press Department of the Russian Foreign Ministry said no official statements had been made on the subject of the Russian's arrest in Georgia on charges of nuclear
materials smuggling. In other words, it had never confirmed or denounced the hypothesis on the Russian origin of the uranium in question.
Georgia used the news to put Abkhazia and South Ossetia under additional pressure, condemning the breakaway provinces as channels or routes for WMD smuggling. "The government of Georgia has been
insisting on stationing foreign observers along the Georgian-Russian border sectors on the territories of separatist Abkhazia and South Ossetia," the Foreign Ministry of Georgia announced yesterday.
"Shipments are frequently smuggled across the state border in these areas. It follows that there is the danger of WMD proliferation."
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