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slimmouse » Sat Aug 24, 2013 5:41 pm wrote:It strikes me from Alices commentary that the Egyptian people understand exactly who and what they are first.
The media meanwhile create the overall impression that we are something else, pick your flavor.
BS labels.
Jack?
Remembering what the bloodshed in Egypt is about
Everyone who cares for Egypt is stunned by the death and destruction witnessed in Cairo and elsewhere in the country over the past couple of days.
Stunned, but not surprised, for this carnage was inevitable from the moment the Hassan al-Banna cultists of the Muslim Brotherhood decided to hold the Egyptian capital hostage to their warped, extremist Islamist ambitions.
Against this background, what is almost as shocking is the stream of apologies for the Brotherhood pouring out of the Western media, from the BBC to Channel 4 News. Suddenly, supposedly learned journalists and academics have forgotten what the Muslim Brotherhood is, why it was staging its paralysing sit-ins and the fact that it rejected all attempts at a peaceful, political solution.
Amid this hypocrisy and collective amnesia, Egyptian writer and activist Wael Nawara has had the courage to say it as it is. Writing in Al-Monitor, he says:
In Egypt, if you ask a question, you are often answered with another question. So, to the question, “Why was it so necessary to clear these sit-ins fully knowing that the blood toll was to be so high?” the answer would be, “If it’s not too important, why did the Muslim Brothers’ react by setting the whole country on fire?”
For six weeks, yard by yard, the Rabia al-Adawiya encampment expanded its borders, creeping to claim kilometre after kilometre of neighbouring streets, including the Autostrade road, which connects Nasr City and the rest of Cairo to the city’s airport. Until one day, Rabia al-Adawiya was no longer a sit-in, but a sprawling town, even a city-state, with fortifications, internal police force, complete with torture camps and border control officials. Rabia al-Adawiya came to manifest the Muslim Brotherhood’s “Parallel State”…
The Muslim Brotherhood has reached a point where it sees this as the last battle – so, it’s either win it or die as a “martyr,” which is exactly the religious narrative used so passionately by [Muhammad] Beltagy [secretary-general of the Muslim Brotherhood’s Freedom and Justice Party], Safwat Hegazi [imam and preacher banned in the UK for stirring up hatred] and other Brotherhood leaders to emotionally charge their supporters at Rabaa to pick from these bloody choices, victory or death. And while many Brotherhood leaders are safely hiding far from the martyrdom they had so poetically described to their supporters, we should not expect the end of this conflict any time soon. The Muslim Brotherhood elements all over the country are playing what could perhaps be their final cards. Spreading chaos and pushing the country into civil war. Toward that end, they are bringing out all their tricks. The sectarian card started with burning churches and Christian missionary schools, attacking shops and Christians’ homes in Upper Egypt, hoping to start wide sectarian battles. Another important card is the collapse of security. To achieve that, Muslim Brotherhood members and Islamists have managed so far to storm several police stations, releasing prisoners and stealing arms. The government response was to impose a state of emergency and night curfew for a month.
Was it worth it? This wide confrontation between the Egyptian state and the Islamists took place several times before, most notably, when Sadat was assassinated in 1981. Many people see this confrontation as imminent and unavoidable – and that if it was allowed to take place two or three years from now, the Muslim Brotherhood would have been able to infiltrate and split the army, and hopes for restoring order without dividing the country would have been slimmer. While we’re now horrified by the death of hundreds, if the country were in a state of a civil war in which two armies fight, the death toll could climb from hundreds to hundreds of thousands…
The conflict in Egypt is not a dispute over percentages of election gains. It’s not about who rules. It’s rather about “what to rule”: the state of Egypt — or the Brotherhood’s state.
We have little to add to this, but can only hope that the BBC, Channel 4 News and others set aside their pretense of moral superiority, if only for a few days, and report the painful facts in their proper context.
Sounder » Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:32 pm wrote:One beneficial aspect to recent events in Egypt is the exposure of western exceptionalist lackeys.
According to minister of finance, Ahmed Galal, the Egyptian government currently has no intention of carrying forward talks with the International Monetary Fund (IMF) for $4.8 billion in aid, as the country no longer bears austerity policies.
Speaking in an interview with Dream satellite channel on Tuesday, Galal said the government is seeking to achieve an economic policy that could balance the requirements of economical discipline while injecting new investments into the market.
"No one could support us except ourselves," Galal said. He continued, "We could boost our own economy by supporting domestic investments and production, as well as rationing energy, so that the next government would be able to endure."
Galal pointed that recently, the government is adopting numerous initiatives to achieve social justice, including an initiative to financially support poor families and another initiative to boost non-official businesses by exempting them from taxes for a specific period of time.
According to a press statement issued on Wednesday, the minister emphasized that the current government is conducting an expansion policy which mainly focuses on new investments in order to bolster the state's ailing economy. The Egyptian economy has experienced a slowdown over the past period.
The statement pointed out that public deficit represented 14 % of the GDP in fiscal year 2012-2013 and that the general debt climbed to about 92 % of the GDP.
The minister noted that although these indices may raise people's concerns, the economic developments following 30 June revolt seemed positive and signals that the domestic economy is able to get over all troubles.
"The recent Gulf financial packages are expected to help the government to guarantee petroleum products which are needed by society, with no crisis or more pressure on the foreign cash reserves," Galal said.
The government will inject $6 billion worth of deposits into the Central Bank of Egypt in an effort to bolster foreign cash reserves.
Several Gulf countries, including Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates, meanwhile offered financial aid and fuel supplies to Egypt following the overthrow of former President Mohamed Morsy.
Galal said that the government is contemplating taking two steps: increasing sales taxes from 10% to 12.5 % and imposing a progressive tax and construction tax.
The minister emphasized that no further tax categories would be imposed since it weighs on the poor but that the government would rely more on the value added tax system (VAT).
Commenting on the minister's statements, the chairman of Abu Dhabi Islamic Bank (ADIB) capital, Karim Helal said, "I believe this decision sounds good especially as it is a feedback of the statement released by the IMF managing director, Christine Lagarde, days ago."
On Friday, Lagarde said that the circumstances in Egypt do not yet allow the resumption of negotiations on the package the fund intends to submit to Cairo. Violence has racked the country since Morsy was toppled.
"The IMF is more likely a guarantee to attract foreign investors, so I expect the negotiations to continue within this year." said Helal.
Helal welcomed the decision of the VAT tax system. He believes the government of former Prime Minister Hesham Qandil was mostly dependent on imposing huge taxes to tackle the deficit, a policy which has not met much success.
AlicetheKurious » Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:54 am wrote:Vanlose Kid, please come out from behind your wall of cut-and-paste blah, blah, blah written by whoever, to explain your own point of view, and the moral and factual basis for it in your own words.
I don't understand what you're saying. Are you saying that the Brotherhood regime should be imposed by force on the Egyptian people against their express will? Because behind all the progressive catch-words, you are essentially aligning yourself with what is undeniably the most reactionary, fascist, right-wing dictatorship Egypt has ever seen; far more oppressive and violent, corrupt and hateful than the Mubarak regime was. Is that what you want for us?
Are you suggesting that the Egyptian people could have liberated themselves from this armed terrorist gang without the help of the police and army? How?
On what basis are you implying that the army is currently running Egypt rather than the civilian government that actually is? Is it just one of those claims that requires no evidence to back it up?
What, if anything, will convince you that you are wrong?
Finally, given how you continue to ignore the facts, how relevant do you think your opinion is?
RT
Major offensive: Egypt brings tanks and choppers to ‘clean’ Sinai of militants
Published time: September 07, 2013
Reuters / Amr Abdallah Dalsh
The Egyptian military have launched a major offensive against Islamist militants in the northern Sinai Peninsula, with the operation described as the biggest of its kind in recent years.
At least 31 people were killed or injured after helicopters and tanks attacked villages on the Israel-Gaza Strip border. Another 15 people were detained during the operation, an undisclosed Egyptian security official told Reuters.
The counterinsurgency offensive is aimed at “cleaning” the areas of the Sinai where Islamic militants operate, including the border towns of Rafah and Sheikh Zuweyid, AP cited another military official as saying.
The major counterinsurgency offensive is aimed at “cleaning” those parts of the Sinai where Islamic militants operate, including the border towns of Rafah and Sheikh Zuweyid, he added.
A witness told the agency that a column of tanks, infantry trucks, rocket launchers and other military vehicles were seen in the area.
Meanwhile, the Egyptian military have diffused an explosive device on a railway line near the Suez Canal, the state news agency reported.
Multiple Al-Qaida-inspired militant groups have stepped up attacks on pipelines and security forces in the Sinai since the ouster of Egypt's president, Mohamed Morsi, by the army on July 3.
The situation remains tense in Egypt’s capital Cairo where a blast went off near a police station. There were no reports of casualties.
Protests against the military rule continue across the country, with three people reported killed in clashes as pro-Morsi demonstrators took to the streets of Cairo and the country’s second largest city, Alexandria, on Friday.
On Thursday, a suicide bomber attacked the motorcade of Egypt’s interior minister, Mohamed Ibrahim, with the official escaping unharmed in a massive explosion, which rocked the capital’s Nasr City district.
RT - Sept. 7, 2013
700 refuges, mostly Syrians and Egyptians, rescued from struggling boats in Italy
The Italian coast guard says it has rescued more than 700 migrants and refugees, including many Syrians and Egyptians, from four struggling boats off the coast of Sicily on Friday and Saturday, the Naharnet website reports. The number of refugees trying to reach Italy in dinghies and other boats has increased in recent months because of escalating violence in Syria and Egypt. According to the Italian interior ministry, around 3,000 Syrians have arrived in Italy since the beginning of the year, with most of them arriving by boat in eastern Sicily.
Prosecutor investigates foreign funding charges against activists
On Sat, 07/09/2013 - 19:37
http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/pr ... -activists
Top prosecutor Hisham Barakat ordered an investigation into claims against a number of Egyptian activists over charges of receiving foreign funds, a judicial source said.
Many claims were filed against activists saying they received foreign funding from the United States specifically.
The activists include Wael Abbas, Wael Ghonim, Amr Hamzawy, Esraa Abdel Fattah, Wael Qandil, Asmaa Mahfouz, Ayman Nour, Ahmed Douma, Alaa Abdel Fattah, Nawara Negm, Abderrahman Ezz, Essan Sultan, Moataz Abdel Fattah, Ahmed Maher, Gehad al-Haddad, Hesham al-Bastawisy, Ghada Shahbandar, Hafez Abu Se'da, Nasser Amin, Amr al-Shobaky, Ahmed Samih, Mazen Hassan, Hamdy Qenawy, Doaa Qassem, Marwa Mokhtar, Gamila Ismail, Maikel Mounir, Barbara Ibrahim and others.
A claim about secret meetings between former US Ambassador to Egypt Anne Patterson with activists, in order to divulge details about the internal situation in Egypt will also be investigated, the source said.
Edited translation from Al-Masry Al-Youm
Esquire
Sep 9, 2013
Hands Across The Water
By Charles P. Pierce
Apparently, there's a little known codicil in some trade deal whereby we have agreed to some sort of free-exchange of crazy people with Egypt.
"Together, we've gone through suffering. Together, the United States and Egypt, have dealt with the same enemy," Bachmann explained. "It's a common enemy, and it's an enemy called terrorism...We want to make sure that you have the Apache helicopters, the F-16s, the equipment that you have so bravely used to capture terrorists and to take care of this menace that's on your border," she continued. "Many of you have asked, do we understand who the enemy is? We can speak for ourselves. We do...We have seen the threat that the Muslim Brotherhood has posed here for the people in Egypt. We have seen the threat that the Muslim Brotherhood has posed around the world. We stand against this great evil. We are not for them. We remember who caused 9/11 in America. We remember who it was that killed 3,000 brave Americans. We have not forgotten."
What's that you say? Steve King has some American history he'd like to analogize into shrapnel? Swell.
"We met with for a long meeting General el-Sisi and many of the military leaders, and my friend Steve King mentioned again about our heritage in America," he explained. "George Washington, doing what no one had ever done before him, led a military in revolution, won the revolution, and then resigned and went home." "And we met, in General el-Sisi, a man who is leader of the military, who might have a shot at being elected president, but is more concerned about giving his life to help his country, Egypt," Gohmert said.
See? This is what happens when you loot the Valley Of Kings. This is the Curse Of The Pharaohs at work. You wind up with these people in your Congress.
Top Comment
gd14lawn 12 hours ago
Did they drive the clown car all the way to Egypt?
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funkydunky29 2 hours ago
"Nine-one-one"? Why is Michelle Bachmann so stupid shes referring to 9/11 as "nine-one-one"?
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