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Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Aug 20, 2016 11:23 pm

Freitag » Sat Aug 20, 2016 10:17 pm wrote:
seemslikeadream » Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:13 am wrote:
Freitag » Sat Aug 20, 2016 12:36 pm wrote:
Instead of hinting that Trump's ads contain an evil message, why don't you state plainly what the message is? I know why - because then you can be rebutted. You want to say something without actually saying it, like all passive-aggressive people.


did you see the train overflowing with bodies?


what do you think that means?


I watched it again and didn't see that part. All I saw was an ad about illegal immigration and terrorism, two subjects that Trump has been vocal about. I didn't see any subliminal voodoo.



:04.....we don't have anything like that in the US

at :14 seconds ...trains


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UqwQCB48dA

it's all fucking voodoo...we don't have trains full of Mexicans crossing the boarder
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They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby Freitag » Sat Aug 20, 2016 11:44 pm

seemslikeadream » Sat Aug 20, 2016 4:23 pm wrote:at :14 seconds ...trains


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UqwQCB48dA

it's all fucking voodoo...we don't have trains full of Mexicans crossing the boarder


Okay I see it now. I don't really know. Immigrants from Central/South America jump on trains to work their way North to eventually get to the U.S. so this might show the beginning of, or part of, that journey.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Aug 21, 2016 12:14 am

do you think the US looks like that ad?

as the train comes into the picture the words BORDER OPEN appears on the screen


What's that big ass white boat supposed to mean?

is it one of Trump's yachts?
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby JackRiddler » Sun Aug 21, 2016 1:17 am

I am enjoying the pretense that there is anything "subliminal" about the Trump ad message, which is a sledgehammer. How much denial can you manage?

What's the subliminal message in this one? What do the cockroaches mean?


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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby Freitag » Sun Aug 21, 2016 2:02 am

JackRiddler » Sat Aug 20, 2016 6:17 pm wrote:I am enjoying the pretense that there is anything "subliminal" about the Trump ad message, which is a sledgehammer.


A "sledgehammer"? You mean it addresses illegal immigration and terrorism, two of the topics he talks most about? But of course it does. So what?
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby Harvey » Sun Aug 21, 2016 8:01 am

A Pedagogy of Hatred, Jorge Luis Borges

Displays of hatred are even more obscene and denigrating than exhibitionism. I defy pornographers to show me a picture more vile than any of the twenty-two illustrations that comprise the children's book Trau keinem Fuchs auf gruener Heid und keinem Jud bei seinem Bid [Don't Trust Any Fox from a Heath or Any Jew on his Oath] whose fourth edition now infests Bavaria. It was first published a year ago, in 1936, and has already sold 51,000 copies. Its goal is to instill in the children of the Third Reich a distrust and animosity toward Jews. Verse (we know the mnemonic virtues of rhyme) and color engravings (we know how effective images are) collaborate in this veritable textbook of hatred.

Take any page: for example, page 5. Here I find, not without justifiable bewilderment, this didactic poem-"The German is a proud man who knows how to work and struggle. Jews detest him because he is so handsome and enterprising" -followed by an equally informative and explicit quatrain: "Here's the Jew, recognizable to all, the biggest scoundrel in the whole kingdom. He thinks he's wonderful, and he's horrible." The engravings are more astute: the German is a Scandinavian, eighteen-year-old athlete, plainly portrayed as a worker; the Jew is a dark Turk, obese and middle-aged. Another sophistic feature is that the German is clean-shaven and the Jew, while bald, is very hairy. (It is well known that German Jews are Ashkenazim, copper-haired Slavs. In this book they are presented as dark half-breeds so that they'll appear to be the exact opposite of the blond beasts. Their attributes also include the permanent use of a fez, a rolled cigar, and ruby rings.)

Another engraving shows a lecherous dwarf trying to seduce a young German lady with a necklace. In another, the father reprimands his daughter for accepting the gifts and promises of Solly Rosenfeld, who certainly will not make her his wife. Another depicts the foul body odor and shoddy negligence of Jewish butchers. (How could this be, with all the precautions they take to make meat kosher?) Another, the disadvantages of being swindled by a lawyer, who solicits from his clients a constant flow of flour, fresh eggs, and veal cutlets. After a year of this, the clients have lost their case but the Jewish lawyer "weighs two hundred and forty pounds." Yet another depicts the opportune expulsion of Jewish professors as a relief for the children: "We want a German teacher;' shout the enthusiastic pupils, "a joyful teacher who knows how to play with us and maintain order and discipline. We want a German teacher who will teach us common sense." It is difficult not to share such aspirations.

What can one say about such a book? Personally I am outraged, less for Israel's sake than for Germany's, less for the offended community than for the offensive nation. I don't know if the world can do without German civilization, but I do know that its corruption by the teachings of hatred is a crime.

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Postby JackRiddler » Sun Aug 21, 2016 12:46 pm

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Postby 82_28 » Sun Aug 21, 2016 1:12 pm

Somebody dropped this off in rawstory comments.

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Commenting on this brief interview with David Cay Johnston:

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/new-boo ... you-think/

God this guy is disgusting.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby Freitag » Sun Aug 21, 2016 1:38 pm

It's funny how TV spots tend to show images of the things they're talking about. Car commercials show cars. Phone commercials show phones. Ads about illegal immigration show illegal immigrants. Vast right-wing conspiracy, or basic videography?
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Postby PufPuf93 » Sun Aug 21, 2016 2:08 pm

Freitag » Sun Aug 21, 2016 10:38 am wrote:It's funny how TV spots tend to show images of the things they're talking about. Car commercials show cars. Phone commercials show phones. Ads about illegal immigration show illegal immigrants. Vast right-wing conspiracy, or basic videography?


I would opine that a TV spot with videos of cockroaches is hate mongering at most base.

How then are cockroaches relevant to immigration, legal or not?

The cockroach clip belongs in a pest control service advertisement not a political ad.

Regarding the fear of brown immigrants coming for various social services and social security; perhaps the more pressing social need in the USA is the degraded social safety net for citizens and residents in general, especially poor, brown, ill, veterans, and aged. The money wasted in military by the USA far exceeds what would be required to provide medical, food, and housing comparable to a Scandinavian or even Canadian social democracy.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby Freitag » Sun Aug 21, 2016 2:48 pm

PufPuf93 » Sun Aug 21, 2016 7:08 am wrote:
Freitag » Sun Aug 21, 2016 10:38 am wrote:It's funny how TV spots tend to show images of the things they're talking about. Car commercials show cars. Phone commercials show phones. Ads about illegal immigration show illegal immigrants. Vast right-wing conspiracy, or basic videography?


I would opine that a TV spot with videos of cockroaches is hate mongering at most base.

How then are cockroaches relevant to immigration, legal or not?

The cockroach clip belongs in a pest control service advertisement not a political ad.


That's a left-wing parody. It's not a real political ad.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby PufPuf93 » Sun Aug 21, 2016 3:49 pm

Freitag » Sun Aug 21, 2016 11:48 am wrote:
PufPuf93 » Sun Aug 21, 2016 7:08 am wrote:
Freitag » Sun Aug 21, 2016 10:38 am wrote:It's funny how TV spots tend to show images of the things they're talking about. Car commercials show cars. Phone commercials show phones. Ads about illegal immigration show illegal immigrants. Vast right-wing conspiracy, or basic videography?


I would opine that a TV spot with videos of cockroaches is hate mongering at most base.

How then are cockroaches relevant to immigration, legal or not?

The cockroach clip belongs in a pest control service advertisement not a political ad.


That's a left-wing parody. It's not a real political ad.


:oops: then.

Not very funny.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby Nordic » Sun Aug 21, 2016 4:17 pm

82_28 » Sun Aug 21, 2016 12:12 pm wrote:Somebody dropped this off in rawstory comments.

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Commenting on this brief interview with David Cay Johnston:

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/new-boo ... you-think/

God this guy is disgusting.



Not arguing that he's disgusting but that is a professionally-shot editorial photo from a magazine story and quite possibly wasn't even Trump's idea. His daughter is very beautiful. If she was homely this wouldn't be glanced at twice.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Aug 21, 2016 4:38 pm

he's in bed with his teenage? daughter kissing him..legs galore ....please....I don't care if it was professionally shot or not ..creepy
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby 82_28 » Sun Aug 21, 2016 7:34 pm

Nordic, I typically agree with you on just about everything. Here is where we part company a touch. A real dad would have said yeah, no, we ain't doing no shot like that. If you want, let's do the shoot outside with her and I playing ball or something. Like SLAD, I find it disturbing. At like maybe five years earlier it would have been just a dad and his daughter showcasing what a family man he was. The photo was all about trump either "making a deal" or selling his daughter off.
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