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Postby Stephen Morgan » Sat Jul 16, 2011 2:20 am

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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby wintler2 » Sat Jul 16, 2011 7:15 am

Murdoch Has Blood on His Hands

By David Swanson

14 July 2011

Nailing Rupert Murdoch for his employees' phone tapping or bribery would be a little like bringing down Al Capone for tax fraud, or George W. Bush for torture. I'd be glad to see it happen but there'd still be something perverse about it.

I remember how outraged Americans were in 2005 learning about our government's warrantless spying, or for that matter how furious some of my compatriots become when a census form expects them to reveal how many bathrooms are in their home.

I'm entirely supportive of outrage. I just have larger crimes in mind. Specifically this:

International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights:
"Article 20
"1. Any propaganda for war shall be prohibited by law."

The Fox News Channel is endless propaganda for war, and various other deadly policies. As Robin Beste points out,

"Rupert Murdoch's newspapers and TV channels have supported all the US-UK wars over the past 30 years, from Margaret Thatcher and the Falklands war in 1982, through George Bush Senior and the first Gulf War in 1990-91, Bill Clinton's war in Yugoslavia in 1999 and his undeclared war on Iraq in 1998, George W. Bush's wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, with Tony Blair on his coat tails, and up to the present, with Barack Obama continuing the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and now adding Libya to his tally of seven wars."

In this video, Murdoch confesses to having used his media outlets to support the Iraq War and to having tried to shape public opinion in favor of the war. That is the very definition of propaganda for war.

The propaganda is, also by definition, part of the public record. Although that record speaks for itself, Murdoch has not been shy about adding his commentary. The week before the world's largest anti-war protests ever and the United Nation's rejection of the Iraq War in mid-February 2003, Murdoch told a reporter that in launching a war Bush was acting "morally" and "correctly" while Blair was "full of guts" and "extraordinarily courageous." Murdoch promoted the looming war as a path to cheap oil and a healthy economy. He said he had no doubt that Bush would be "reelected" if he "won" the war and the U.S. economy stayed healthy. That's not an idle statement from the owner of the television network responsible for baselessly prompting all of the other networks to call the 2000 election in Bush's favor during a tight race in Florida that Bush actually lost.

Murdoch's support for the Iraq War extended to producing support for that war from every one of his editors and talking heads. It would be interesting to know what Murdoch and Blair discussed in the days leading up to the war. But knowing that would add little, if anything, to the open-and-shut case against Murdoch as war propagandist. Murdoch had known the war was coming long before February 2003, and had long since put his media machine behind it.

Murdoch has been close to Blair and has now published his book -- a book that Blair has had difficulty promoting in London thanks to the protest organizing of the Stop the War Coalition. Yet Murdoch allowed Mick Smith to publish the Downing Street Memos in his Sunday Times. Murdoch's loyalty really seems to be to his wars, not his warmakers.

John Nichols describes three of those warmakers:

"When the war in Iraq began, the three international leaders who were most ardently committed to the project were US President Bush, British Prime Minister Tony Blair and Australian Prime Minister John Howard. On paper, they seemed like three very different political players: Bush was a bumbling and inexperienced son of a former president who mixed unwarranted bravado with born-again moralizing to hold together an increasingly conservative Republican Party; Blair was the urbane 'modernizer' who had transformed a once proudly socialist party into the centrist 'New Labour' project; Howard was the veteran political fixer who came up through the ranks of a coalition that mingled traditional conservatives and swashbuckling corporatists.

"But they had one thing in common. They were all favorites of Rupert Murdoch and his sprawling media empire, which began in Australia, extended to the 'mother country' of Britain and finally conquered the United States. Murdoch's media outlets had helped all three secure electoral victories. And the Murdoch empire gave the Bush-Blair-Howard troika courage and coverage as preparations were made for the Iraq invasion. Murdoch-owned media outlets in the United States, Britain and Australia enthusiastically cheered on the rush to war and the news that it was a 'Mission Accomplished.'"

Bribery is dirty stuff. So is sneaking a peak at the private messages of murder victims. But there's something even dirtier: murder, murder on the largest scale, murder coldly calculated and played out from behind a desk, in other words: war.

Murdoch is a major crime boss being threatened with parking tickets.

I hope he's brought down, but wish it were for the right reasons.

The U.S. House Judiciary Committee chased Richard Nixon out of town for the wrong reasons. The full House impeached Bill Clinton for the wrong reasons. And the worst thing the U.S. government has done in recent years, just like the worst thing News Corp. has done in recent years, has not been spying on us.

It's no secret what drove public anger at Nixon or what drives public anger at Murdoch. But, for the sake of historical precedent, it would be good for us to formally get it right.

Charge the man with selling wars!


They hang war criminals, don't they?
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:51 pm

Is Piers Morgan connected to phone-hacking scandal?

By Lucas Shaw

Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:39pm EDT

NEW YORK (TheWrap) - Is CNN's Piers Morgan the next to fall in the News Corp. phone-hacking scandal?

CNN, which has given the scandal plenty of play, is starting to face questions about its treatment of allegations implicating its own Larry King replacement.

Seems Morgan was once an editor of the News of the World, the British tabloid that started all of this -- though his alleged improprieties were during his tenure as editor of a different tabloid: the Daily Mirror.

On Monday, a British politics blog titled Guido Fawkes claimed Morgan condoned hacking during his editorship.

"James 'Scottie' Scott, the Daily Mirror's showbiz reporter at the time, was listening into (English TV star) Ulrika Jonsson's voicemails when he was flummoxed by messages in her native Swedish," Fawkes wrote.

"Morgan decided to let '3AM Girl' Jessica Callan break the illegally obtained story under her byline in order to try and rid the column of its banal reputation."

The blog never supplied much evidence, but one of his sources might be Morgan's book, "The Insider," in which Morgan talks about a "little trick" that sounds a whole lot like hacking.

While different news outlets have begun to pick the story up, CNN has remained silent. Adweek pointed this out to CNN, which defended its silence by saying that Morgan has not been summoned to testify.

But while he has not been formally summoned like the Murdochs, MPs have said Morgan should face questioning.

Morgan himself addressed the speculation on Monday, telling the CBS daytime show "The Talk" that he had not broken any laws. However, neither CNN nor Morgan have responded to the allegations since then.


Hacking crisis widens, for Murdoch and British leader
Document shows media company’s links to Cameron
By John F. Burns
New York Times / July 17, 2011

LONDON - As Rupert Murdoch’s newspaper empire took a step to contain the damage of a deepening scandal yesterday, publishing full-page ads in every national newspaper in Britain under the words “We are sorry,’’ the government released information documenting its close ties to the company that continued as the scandal escalated

The mood of atonement by Murdoch’s News Corp. was a U-turn from his previously defiant handling of the crisis. The banner headline in yesterday’s editions of the Times of London read “Day of Atonement,’’ and it was all the more striking for the fact that it ran in the 226-year-old newspaper that is the flagship of the print empire Murdoch has assembled in Britain.

At the end of a week that rocked the interwoven worlds of the press, politicians, and the police in Britain, and spread across the Atlantic with the opening of an FBI investigation into allegations of associated abuses in the United States, penitence was the buzzword far beyond the London headquarters of Murdoch’s British-based newspaper subsidiary, News International.

The crisis seemed far from over for Murdoch, as the scandal that began over illegal phone hacking by the now defunct News of the World, widened to include a second newspaper in his stable, The Sunday Times, officials said yesterday.

Nor was the crisis abating for Prime Minister David Cameron. As the presses rolled Friday night with the Murdoch bid for redemption in the “sorry’’ ad, and with front-page stories telling of his apology to the parents of a murdered girl whose cellphone voicemails were hacked, Cameron’s aides released a diary of his meetings with executives and editors of News International.

The diary shed light on what Cameron acknowledged last week was the “cozy and comfortable’’ world in which politicians, the press, and the police in Britain have functioned for decades, one he said had to yield to much greater public scrutiny.

The diary showed that since taking office in May 2010, Cameron has met 26 times with Murdoch executives, including Murdoch; his son James, the top official of News International; and Rebekah Brooks, the former chief executive of the British subsidiary and editor of News of the World, who resigned Friday.

Her resignation was quickly followed by that of Les Hinton, the News Corp. executive and former chief of News International who had been publisher of The Wall Street Journal, another Murdoch property, since 2007. All four executives are expected to testify before a parliamentary oversight committee Tuesday.

Most of the meetings were at the prime minister’s London headquarters at 10 Downing Street, or at Chequers, his official country residence northwest of London. His meetings with the Murdoch officials exceeded all those with other British media representatives put together. Brooks was the only person on the guest list for Chequers who had been invited there twice.

Another guest was Andy Coulson, the former News of the World editor who resigned as Cameron’s Downing Street media chief under the pressure of the phone-hacking scandal in January. That visit occurred in March, two months after he resigned.

The list did nothing to assuage the questions about Cameron’s judgment in maintaining close ties with executives of a media enterprise that has been under a faltering police investigation for years and has come under intense scrutiny in the past few months. The ties to Coulson, in particularly, have been assailed by the Labor opposition leader, Ed Miliband, but have also spread dismay among Cameron’s Conservatives.

Foreign minister William Hague defended those ties yesterday, telling the BBC that inviting Coulson to Chequers was “not surprising that in a democratic country there is some contact’’ between political and media leaders.

While the police investigation has largely centered on cellphone hacking by journalists at News of the World, it has now spread to the investigative unit of the Sunday Times, a person familiar with internal News Corp. discussions said. That person, as well as a person with knowledge of the scope of the inquiry, said the investigation would expand to include hacking into e-mail accounts and other online privacy invasions.

One target of the investigation is Jonathan Rees, a private detective employed by News of the World with ties to corrupt police officers and a criminal record. Tom Watson, a Labor minister who has been briefed on the inquiry, said the police had evidence that Rees was paid by News International and that he had claimed to have met with members of the Sunday Times investigation unit.
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:28 pm

Hey all.

As usual I've been avoiding the internets.

But can I just clarify something...

Did NotW or someone else under NI actually spy on the investigation into Daniel Morgan's murder on behalf of alleged murderers in the MET?

Sorry I've just read this thread thru yesterday and again (sort of) this morning and am trying to put it all together.

And one further point, wrt to ITV Digital. What happened to it? Did NI eat what was left after the debacle with the tv encoders?
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby Stephen Morgan » Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:38 am

Joe Hillshoist wrote:Hey all.

As usual I've been avoiding the internets.

But can I just clarify something...

Did NotW or someone else under NI actually spy on the investigation into Daniel Morgan's murder on behalf of alleged murderers in the MET?


Yes, the "contractors" NotW have been using hacked the phones of the police involved and NotW journalists followed members of copper-Cook's family, for whatever reasons.

Sorry I've just read this thread thru yesterday and again (sort of) this morning and am trying to put it all together.

And one further point, wrt to ITV Digital. What happened to it? Did NI eat what was left after the debacle with the tv encoders?


It was taken over by the BBC initially, before becoming "Freeview", which is still partly owned by the BBC along with other broadcaster in a complicated arrangement whereby different companies thereby control different parts of the broadcast spectrum, one of those companies being the BBC. Murdoch has no interest in it, and it is about to become the standard when the analogue signal shuts down.
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby Nordic » Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:50 am

God how I'd love to see Piers Morgan go down. I so despise that POS.
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:08 am

Cheers Stevo.

Stephen Morgan wrote:
Yes, the "contractors" NotW have been using hacked the phones of the police involved and NotW journalists followed members of copper-Cook's family, for whatever reasons.


Weren't the "contactors" the alleged murderers? Also it appears they were connected to or partnered with corrupt cops dealing cocaine. Not the first time Murdoch has been associated with drug related corruption.

It was taken over by the BBC initially, before becoming "Freeview", which is still partly owned by the BBC along with other broadcaster in a complicated arrangement whereby different companies thereby control different parts of the broadcast spectrum, one of those companies being the BBC. Murdoch has no interest in it, and it is about to become the standard when the analogue signal shuts down.


Was BSkyB involved in the takeover at all as a part of Freeview? And at the time did NI in any incarbation have any stake in BSkyB? Cos it seems that was the case.
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby gnosticheresy_2 » Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:03 am

The CIA occulding of a 7/7 continues :lol:

Rebekah Brooks arrested over phone-hacking allegations

Rebekah Brooks has been arrested by police investigating allegations of phone hacking by the News of the World and allegations that police officers were bribed to leak sensitive information.

The Metropolitan police said a 43-year-old woman was arrested at noon on Sunday, by appointment at a London police station.

Brooks, 43, resigned on Friday as News International's chief executive. She is a former News of the World editor and was close to Rupert Murdoch and the prime minister, David Cameron.

Brooks was due to give evidence before MPs on the culture select committee on Tuesday.

An arrest by appointment on a Sunday by police is unusual.

In a statement the Met said: "The MPS [Metropolitan police service] has this afternoon, Sunday 17 July, arrested a female in connection with allegations of corruption and phone hacking.

"At approximately 12.00 a 43-year-old woman was arrested by appointment at a London police station by officers from Operation Weeting [phone hacking investigation] together with officers from Operation Elveden [bribing of police officers investigation]. She is currently in custody.

"She was arrested on suspicion of conspiring to intercept communications, contrary to Section1(1) Criminal Law Act 1977 and on suspicion of corruption allegations contrary to Section 1 of the Prevention of Corruption Act 1906.

"The Operation Weeting team is conducting the new investigation into phone hacking.

"Operation Elveden is the investigation into allegations of inappropriate payments to police. This investigation is being supervised by the Independent Police Complaints Commission.

"It would be inappropriate to discuss any further details regarding these cases at this time."

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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby Stephen Morgan » Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:32 am

Joe Hillshoist wrote:Cheers Stevo.

Stephen Morgan wrote:
Yes, the "contractors" NotW have been using hacked the phones of the police involved and NotW journalists followed members of copper-Cook's family, for whatever reasons.


Weren't the "contactors" the alleged murderers? Also it appears they were connected to or partnered with corrupt cops dealing cocaine. Not the first time Murdoch has been associated with drug related corruption.


I mean contractors as in the PIs who were hacking phones for them, as that was normally done by external contractors rather than paid staff, although not always.

It was taken over by the BBC initially, before becoming "Freeview", which is still partly owned by the BBC along with other broadcaster in a complicated arrangement whereby different companies thereby control different parts of the broadcast spectrum, one of those companies being the BBC. Murdoch has no interest in it, and it is about to become the standard when the analogue signal shuts down.


Was BSkyB involved in the takeover at all as a part of Freeview? And at the time did NI in any incarbation have any stake in BSkyB? Cos it seems that was the case.


I don't think BSkyB had anything to do with Freeview, although I'm not an expert, but Murdoch has always had a stake in BSkyB. BSkyB was originally formed from the merger of two satellite companies, Murdoch's Sky and the former British Satellite Broadcasting, becoming British Sky Broadcast or BSkyB, commonly Sky. Since when Murdoch has had a large stake in Sky, enough to nepotistically appoint incompetent family members to the board, but not enough for outright control, which is what he's been trying to attain, meaning a 100% share ownership.
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:42 pm

James Murdoch 'could face prosecution' in US and UK over hacking scandal
James Murdoch, the chairman of News International, has been warned he could face prosecution in the US and Britain in the wake of the News of the World phone hacking scandal.
Murdoch 'could face prosecution' over his role in hacking scandal
Mr Murdoch had admitted in a statement on Thursday that he had approved out of court settlements to hacking victims

By Christopher Hope, Katherine Rushton, and Raf Sanchez

10:49AM BST 10 Jul 2011

Rupert Murdoch's embattled son could face criminal charges after he acknowledged approving out of court settlements to hacking victims and admitted misleading parliament, although he insisted he did not do so deliberately.

Allegations that News of the World journalists also made payments to police officers could also leave Mr Murdoch exposed to prosecution in the US, where Mr Murdoch is listed as deputy chief operating officer of his father Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp, the parent company of paper publishers News International.

Under American law, the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act (FCPA) makes it a crime for American companies to offer corrupt payments to foreign government officials.

If the allegations of payments to police officers are proven, Mr Murdoch could face an American prosecution in his role as deputy chief operating officer the US-listed News Corp.

In 2009, the former Hollywood producer Gerald Green was jailed for six months after being prosecuted under the FCPA for making $1.8m (£1.1m) in bribes to a Thai government official.


Butler University law professor Mike Koehler, an FCPA expert, told The Guardian: "I would be very surprised if the US authorities don't become involved in this [News International] conduct."

He said the FCPA could be invoked because News Corp is an American company and because the alleged payments would have been made in order for the newspaper to make money from the stories obtained.

Brett Pulley, media correspondent for the Bloomberg news agency in New York, said: “If the fall out were to continue, my goodness, if it were to impact James, then we start to talk about it impacting News Corp’s succession plan, so that affects the company globally.”

Paul Farhi, media correspondent for The Washington Post, added: “There’s a whole domino effect. What else falls apart? Do bankers get nervous?

“He [Rupert Murdoch] had one flirtation with bankruptcy in the early 90s. He’s very dependent on the goodwill of Wall Street and of bankers.

“His company is very profitable now — it’s not quite the same as the 1990s — but he doesn’t want these dominoes to keep toppling …

“The fact he shut down a newspaper reflects how seriously the scandal is affecting a whole empire.”

Meanwhile in Britain, Mr Murdoch's admission that he made out of court settlements to victims of phone hacking could leave him vulnerable to prosecution under anti-snooping legislation.

Alan Johnson MP, the Labour home secretary from June 2009 to May 2010, suggested that Mr Murdoch could be charged under the Regulation of Investigative Powers Act 2000, which covers the “criminal liability of directors”.

It emerged in evidence to a Commons committee in 2009 that Mr Murdoch was aware of a breach of privacy claim by Gordon Taylor, the head of the Professional Footballers’ Association, and had agreed with a decision to settle for £700,000.

Mr Johnson pointed to Mr Murdoch’s statement on Thursday in which he said: “The paper made statements to Parliament without being in the full possession of the facts. This was wrong. The company paid out-of-court settlements approved by me. I now know that I did not have a complete picture when I did so. This was wrong and is a matter of serious regret.”

In a press conference on Friday, Mr Cameron was asked whether Mr Murdoch remained a fit and proper person to run a large company, following his admission that he personally approved out-of-court payments.

The Prime Minister replied: “I read the statement yesterday. I think it raises lots of questions that need to be answered and these processes that are under way are going to have to answer those questions.”

James Murdoch, the deputy chief operating officer of News Corp, has been at the forefront of most of the company’s recent response to the scandal.

By contrast, his father kept an unusually low profile at the technology and media summit in Sun Valley, Idaho, attending with his wife, Wendi, and son Lachlan. He is due, however, to fly to London today to discuss the phone-hacking scandal.

Corporate governance experts in America already believe News Corp’s annual meeting in October could lead to a showdown between Rupert and shareholders over his son’s involvement in the telephone hacking affair. Experts said they could try to block his re-election to the board.

There has also been speculation that Ofcom, the broadcasting regulator, could withdraw BSkyB’s licence to broadcast in Britain because of the scandal.

BSkyB’s share price dropped to 750p by the close on Friday, down 7.6 per cent at a five-month low and wiping £1 billion off the value of the company.
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby semper occultus » Sun Jul 17, 2011 1:39 pm

Nordic wrote:God how I'd love to see Piers Morgan go down. I so despise that POS.


you'll have to get to the back of a very, very, very long queue !
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby Harvey » Sun Jul 17, 2011 2:46 pm

Sir Paul Stephenson resigns.
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby gnosticheresy_2 » Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:01 pm

Ok, throwing my hat in the ring and saying this is going to bring down Murdoch as head of News Corp and the Coalition. Anyone want to bet against me?
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby Stephen Morgan » Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:26 pm

Won't bring down the coalition.
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Re: Report: UK tabloid hacked into voicemails

Postby gnosticheresy_2 » Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:28 pm

Stephen Morgan wrote:Won't bring down the coalition.


Bet you a 10p mix up that it does :wink:
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