The Wikileaks Question

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Re: The Wikileaks Question

Postby 82_28 » Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:20 pm

Ah! Are we beginning to see a pattern of narrative control here via seemingly disparate nodes? I do believe we got a live one. Check it. . .

Ann Coulter and the real Wikileaks culprit: gay soldier Bradley Manning
Poor Julian Assange. The whole world now is going after him for exposing the secret world of U.S. diplomacy (which I expect is not that different from the way diplomacy is done in general), as if it were all his fault. But the white-haired Aussie would have little claim to fame were it not for the one petulant homosexual soldier who downloaded 260,000 cables of classified information before shuttling it off to Assange’s Wikileaks whistleblower site.

Pfc. Bradley Manning is still in the brig at Quantico – I’m sure the Marines will take good care of him while the military sorts out his trial. The current charges for selling out his country would put him in prison for the next 52 years – although some say “treason” merits a harsher punishment.

However, Manning’s name – and his sexual orientation – is appearing very little these days in the news. Probably because he doesn’t quite fit in the Pentagon’s patriotic-gay-lesbian-Americans-suffering-silently-under-DADT meme.

(By the way, has anybody pointed out that just opening up the military to gay and lesbian Americans unfairly discriminates and marginalizes transgenders and bisexuals who are suffering silently, etc.? When will the lawsuits come around to a soldier identifying as a woman and demanding a right to bunk in the women’s barracks?)

But hooray for Ann Coulter! She has a column on Townhall.com that absolutely devastates this meme with her typical candor and razorsharp wit. Coulter makes the case that Manning represents a threat to national security that is inevitable with a small percentage of homosexuals who “are going to be narcissistic hothouse flowers like Bradley Manning.”

“According to Bradley’s online chats, he was in ‘an awkward place’ both ‘emotionally and psychologically,’ continues Coulter. “So in a snit, he betrayed his country by orchestrating the greatest leak of classified intelligence in U.S. history.”

Here’s another excerpt: “Look at the disaster one gay created under our punishing ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ policy. What else awaits America with the overturning of a policy that was probably put there for a reason (apart from being the only thing Bill Clinton ever did that I agreed with)?”

And Coulter mockingly asks what actually does merit a DADT investigation anymore? “Bringing a spice rack to basic training? Attending morning drills decked out as a Cher impersonator? Following Anderson Cooper on Twitter?”

Coulter nails this one on the head, and it’s worth reading here.

But the magnitude of the damage wreaked by Manning’s petulance and world-savior complex cannot be underestimated. The German daily Der Speigel reported that the raw data of classified US diplomatic information is so vast that it would fill 66 years worth of weekly Der Speigel magazines.

The most egregious thing is that Manning was so open about his homosexuality – on Facebook no less – and the US Army did … nothing. People get fired from their jobs over what they post on FB, but not Manning.

Instead, he had quite enough time as an intelligence specialist to have access to sensitive information and play freelance spy for the whole world – courtesy of Wikileaks. And with a simple download, Manning really accomplished with a few clicks and some CDR-W discs – jamming out to Lady Gaga’s hit-song ‘Telephone’ to cover up what he was doing – what the Russians couldn’t do in years with the lovely Anna Chapman and a handful of other domestic spies.


http://www.lifesitenews.com/blog/ann-co ... y-manning/

The coincidence is too uncanny that this has all happened at the same damn time. The ceasing of this stupid fucking "don't ask don't tell" policy, wikileaks, traitor is gay, Assange is a sexual pervert. Yet, don't look at this shit in that way. Look at the controversy as the truth, now envision why a truth would actually need to be a lie and then fold one more time. Very murky. This is meta!

This is essentially admitting there is a deeper state, but making the deeper state known. They know some of us mofos are on the task of unwinding this and that they know we're unwinding it is the key to not necessarily understanding anything any better, but the key to our very own minds. Be not obvious about something obvious in order to occlude that which is not obvious to further hide what they really want to be not obvious thus by making what is obvious, not obvious and vice versa. The narrative goes either way. End of the day, war is a motherfucking crime no matter who's doing it. There is no mystery. What I believe is, is that they are pouring on mystery in the same way they print money to bail out the most elite of the elite. Except nobody's doing it for them, they are doing it by themselves and for themselves via proxies. The proxies can take any form. This shit is all illusion. That's what I believe and I suggest all of us following along to keep that in mind.
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Re: The Wikileaks Question

Postby nathan28 » Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:01 pm

AP story via Faux: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/12/04/legal-process-keeps-assange-free/

Karen Todner, a lawyer who has been involved in several high-profile cases, told The Associated Press on Saturday.

In Assange's case, Todner added, "I presume this one will be getting a bit of a red letter treatment."

One of Todner's clients is Gary McKinnon, wanted in the United States for hacking into NASA and military computers in 2001. That case has dragged on for eight years, and McKinnon is still in Britain.



--The UK does not like extradition. It is obviously resisting it with another US data-grabber; it resisted it with Pinochet, and none of those marks the first time (as multiple examples might show)

--I'd *speculate* that the US *may* be making an effort to ensure that it can grab Assange completely by-the-books. That is, it is using this as an opportunity to revise the books. After all, press outlets have the cables already, so to some extent the damage is already done. This presents an opportunity for the US to "take its time" to, e.g., legalize drone attacks on civilians walking down crowded streets in first world nations.

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RI: PDS: Is the State of Emerg. Superseding the US Constitution?


someone with serious ror-shockability wrote:
FORBES: Mudge is now leading a project at the Pentagon’s Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency to find a technology that can stop leaks, which seems pretty relative to your organization. Can you tell me about your past relationship with Mudge?

Assange: Well, I…no comment.

FORBES: Were you part of the same scene of hackers? When you were a computer hacker, you must have known him well.

Assange: We were in the same milieu. I spoke with everyone in that milieu.


...I think the only question left to answer about Assange is how many spook payrolls he's on and how much he collects from each. His politics incidentally are pure RW nut.

....

Could "wikileaks" be a DARPA-funded pinata for "Mudge" and his fellow DARPA hacker pals to whack at, with other useful benefits like poking Obama's State dept. in the eye and ginning up wars?



I don't know about you all, but have you ever been "in the same milieu" as people you were very, very uncomfortable with, but you put up with anyway? I've known shady-ass people on both sides of the law--"known" != "BFF with"--so I imagine that depending on which RI poster you're listening to today, that makes me either a fake-ass snitch or a baby-killing crack dealer.

Hey, check it out: "Could "Mudge" be a DARPA-funded mole for "Assange" and his fellow WikiLeaks hacker pals to make it easier for them to steal documents, with other useful benefits like poking Obama's Pentagon in the eye and gumming up communications channels?"
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Re: The Wikileaks Question

Postby JackRiddler » Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:31 pm

82_28 wrote:(quoted bilge)

The coincidence is too uncanny that this has all happened at the same damn time. The ceasing of this stupid fucking "don't ask don't tell" policy, wikileaks, traitor is gay, Assange is a sexual pervert. Yet, don't look at this shit in that way. Look at the controversy as the truth, now envision why a truth would actually need to be a lie and then fold one more time. Very murky. This is meta!


Or you could think Manning being gay would make him more sensitive to the many injustices he was witnessing within the military, possibly a target of abuse (whether or not he was "asked" or "told" or merely looked a certain way) and more likely to want to strike back at the military and government.

Here's a transcript of the chat sessions with the informant, Lamo, that landed Manning in prison. Read it before you say more:

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/0 ... eaks-chat/

Read it all, but especially this:

(02:26:01 PM) Manning: i dont believe in good guys versus bad guys anymore… i only a plethora of states acting in self interest… with varying ethics and moral standards of course, but self-interest nonetheless
(02:26:18 PM) Manning: s/only/only see/
(02:26:47 PM) Lamo: the tm meant i was being facetious
(02:26:59 PM) Manning: gotchya
(02:27:47 PM) Manning: i mean, we’re better in some respects… we’re much more subtle… use a lot more words and legal techniques to legitimize everything
(02:28:00 PM) Manning: its better than disappearing in the middle of the night
(02:28:19 PM) Manning: but just because something is more subtle, doesn’t make it right
(02:29:04 PM) Manning: i guess im too idealistic
(02:31:02 PM) Manning: i think the thing that got me the most… that made me rethink the world more than anything
(02:35:46 PM) Manning: was watching 15 detainees taken by the Iraqi Federal Police… for printing “anti-Iraqi literature”… the iraqi federal police wouldn’t cooperate with US forces, so i was instructed to investigate the matter, find out who the “bad guys” were, and how significant this was for the FPs… it turned out, they had printed a scholarly critique against PM Maliki… i had an interpreter read it for me… and when i found out that it was a benign political critique titled “Where did the money go?” and following the corruption trail within the PM’s cabinet… i immediately took that information and *ran* to the officer to explain what was going on… he didn’t want to hear any of it… he told me to shut up and explain how we could assist the FPs in finding *MORE* detainees…
(02:35:46 PM) Lamo : I’m not here right now
(02:36:27 PM) Manning: everything started slipping after that… i saw things differently
(02:37:37 PM) Manning: i had always questioned the things worked, and investigated to find the truth… but that was a point where i was a *part* of something… i was actively involved in something that i was completely against…
(02:38:12 PM) Lamo: That could happen in Colombia.
(02:38:21 PM) Lamo: Different cultures, dude.
(02:38:28 PM) Lamo: Life is cheaper.
(02:38:34 PM) Manning: oh im quite aware
(02:38:45 PM) Lamo: What would you do if your role /w Wikileaks seemed in danger of being blown?
(02:38:48 PM) Manning: but i was a part of it… and completely helpless…
(02:39:01 PM) Lamo: sometimes we’re all helpless
(02:39:34 PM) Manning: try and figure out how i could get my side of the story out… before everything was twisted around to make me look like Nidal Hassan


Apropos Hassan. If someone's in the military, chances are better than 50-50 they would belong to one or more of the following groups: a) black; b) Latino; c) immigrant looking to get citizenship; d) Muslim; e) leftist or liberal -- few but some; f) from some kind of whacked-out extreme Christian background; g) libertarian right-winger; h) traumatized since birth. All these groups, together, are a majority, no?

Any one of these groups, if the whistleblower happened to belong to one, could be fit into the kind of loose massive narrative you are constructing. ("Is it a coincidence the traitor is black/Muslim/libertarian etc.") Several of them could also be just as suitable for the same treatment by Ann Coulter and the quoted bilge you found.

The same goes for the other meta-narrative elements you're trying to stitch together. For example, sex smears against targeted troublemakers (sometimes using the honeypot tactic) are usually among the first resorts.

Ah! Are we beginning to see a pattern of narrative control here via seemingly disparate nodes? I do believe we got a live one. Check it. . .


You will always find this if you look hard enough. It usually won't be there.

Except nobody's doing it for them, they are doing it by themselves and for themselves via proxies. The proxies can take any form. This shit is all illusion. That's what I believe and I suggest all of us following along to keep that in mind.


Be my guest, but following along also keep in mind that your map or methodologies for drawing it may be wrong, and usually require frequent revision.

There are many actors in the world other than "them." Anyone might be suitable for being fit as an element of someone else's psyop, but that does not make them proxies. Not everything is running by a "PTB" script (if it were, there'd be no need for psyops at all).

I think the determination among the conspiracy-aware not to be deceived, to always rise above "the sheeple," often leads to another extreme, where one can end up just as clueless in one's understanding.

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Re: The Wikileaks Question

Postby 82_28 » Sat Dec 04, 2010 9:55 pm

Jack, I go by the ever helpful maxim that "be glad you're gay and thus unacceptable to the military". If they ever drafted my ass, I become gay on the spot. Right there. Not because I'm a "pussy", but because, well, you know. . .

And ok, I grant that Manning could very well be an angel and a completely legit objector as well a perfectly decent whistleblower. However, the timing of it all is what gets me and feels more like multi-layered agitprop than anything else. It's too goddamn obvious. There are social implications in all of this which are still unforeseeable other than that the .mil ain't giving up on no wars no time soon. And thank you for letting you be "a guest". That's just how I see it. Admittedly it's totally murky and I may very well be adding ill conceived heaping quantities of murk on my own. It's just my opinion, period.
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Re: The Wikileaks Question

Postby JackRiddler » Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:12 pm

82_28 wrote:Jack, I go by the ever helpful maxim that "be glad you're gay and thus unacceptable to the military". If they ever drafted my ass, I become gay on the spot. Right there. Not because I'm a "pussy", but because, well, you know. . .

And ok, I grant that Manning could very well be an angel and a completely legit objector as well a perfectly decent whistleblower. However, the timing of it all is what gets me and feels more like multi-layered agitprop than anything else. It's too goddamn obvious.


This is not an argument. Anything can "feel" like multi-layered agitprop -- and nowadays everything echoes with the style of it -- but you're not making a case here.

There are social implications in all of this which are still unforeseeable other than that the .mil ain't giving up on no wars no time soon.


Probably not, but the controversies being set off in many countries by the release so far of a fraction of the State Department cables are already making those wars harder, not easier.

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Re: The Wikileaks Question

Postby barracuda » Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:24 pm

Seems to me that a rather standard step in badjacketing a subject is to put forth assertions regarding "degenerate" sexuality.

Unless your audience is the "conspiracy" outliers, of course, in which case you imply a vague collusion with Israel.
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Re: The Wikileaks Question

Postby 82_28 » Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:57 pm

JackRiddler wrote:
82_28 wrote:Jack, I go by the ever helpful maxim that "be glad you're gay and thus unacceptable to the military". If they ever drafted my ass, I become gay on the spot. Right there. Not because I'm a "pussy", but because, well, you know. . .

And ok, I grant that Manning could very well be an angel and a completely legit objector as well a perfectly decent whistleblower. However, the timing of it all is what gets me and feels more like multi-layered agitprop than anything else. It's too goddamn obvious.


This is not an argument. Anything can "feel" like multi-layered agitprop -- and nowadays everything echoes with the style of it -- but you're not making a case here.

There are social implications in all of this which are still unforeseeable other than that the .mil ain't giving up on no wars no time soon.


Probably not, but the controversies being set off in many countries by the release so far of a fraction of the State Department cables are already making those wars harder, not easier.

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It happens to be my argument however. You can call it a non-argument all you want, brother. End of the day though, it ain't what I feel whatsoever. It's what critical mass feels and that's what I'm feeling for. Again, period. I am skeptical and that is all. It's too goddamn convenient and this time of war, economic upheaval, austerity, free flows of information globe wide and down home American wedge issues cause me to give pause.

The controversies in other countries are, I feel, icing on the cake. Do I know what that even means? Hell no. This all creates a convenient tailspin which I also happen to believe contains within it the free flow of opensource information and gathering, archiving, accessing of such. Sometimes, feeling is everything. I guess we call it intuition around here, but I am reserving all judgments until I feel confident our brains aren't gettin' fucked around with. Which will come. . .

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Re: The Wikileaks Question

Postby crikkett » Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:10 am

vanlose kid wrote:Below is the take of Salon's Glenn Greenwald on this incurision into the last remaining liberty that Americans actually had left (in addition to collecting jobless benefits in perpetuity of course... and buying NFLX at 1,000x fwd PE):

Those are the benign, purely legal documents that have now been removed from the Internet in response to Joe Lieberman's demands and implied threats. He's on some kind of warped mission where he's literally running around single-handedly dictating what political content can and cannot be on the Internet, issuing broad-based threats to "all companies" that -- by design -- are causing suppression of political information. I understand Tableau's behavior here; imagine if you were a small company and Joe Lieberman basically announced: I am Homeland Security and you are to cease being involved with this organization which many say is a Terrorist group and Enemy Combatant. What Lieberman is doing is a severe abuse of power, and even for our anemic, power-revering media, it ought to be a major scandal (though it's not because, as Digby says, all our media stars can process is that "Julian Assange is icky").

If people -- especially journalists -- can't be riled when Joe Lieberman is unilaterally causing the suppression of political content from the Internet, when will they be? After all, as Jeffrey Goldberg pointed out in condemning this, the same rationale Lieberman is using to demand that Amazon and all other companies cease any contact with WikiLeaks would justify similar attacks on The New York Times, since they've published the same exact diplomatic cables on its site as WikiLeaks has on its (added: the only diplomatic cables posted on the WikiLeaks site thus far are the ones published by the newspapers with which WikiLeaks partnered -- such as the NYT, Guardian, Der Spiegel, etc. -- and they include those newspapers' redactions; no other cables have yet been posted to the WikiLeaks site). What Joe Lieberman is doing is indescribably pernicious and if "journalists" cared in the slightest about their own self-interest -- never mind all the noble things they pretend to care about -- they ought to be vociferously objecting to this.

[ http://www.salon.com/news/joe_lieberman ... censorship ]

As this pretty much covers it all, there is little to add.

Our advice: after Lieberman is done censoring the Internet, he and his fellow deranged banker puppets will start going down the list of constitutional amendments... which is why if you have been putting of on procuring that gun permit, and putting that bar or two of gold in a safe far, far away from America, this may be a good time to do so.

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/joe-li ... t-schedule

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FWIW I think it's worth mentioning that the "censored" graphic is reposted to the zerohedge link.
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Re: The Wikileaks Question

Postby Simulist » Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:12 am

State Department To Columbia University Students: DO NOT Discuss WikiLeaks On Facebook, Twitter

Talking about WikiLeaks on Facebook or Twitter could endanger your job prospects, a State Department official warned students at Columbia University's School of International and Public Affairs this week.

[...]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/0 ... 92059.html
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Re: The Wikileaks Question

Postby nathan28 » Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:11 am

Simulist wrote:
State Department To Columbia University Students: DO NOT Discuss WikiLeaks On Facebook, Twitter

Talking about WikiLeaks on Facebook or Twitter could endanger your job prospects, a State Department official warned students at Columbia University's School of International and Public Affairs this week.

[...]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/0 ... 92059.html


It's definitely going on your permanent record.




Meanwhile, the US forces in Iraq have placed a warning on the network's homepage that states that viewing news stories on WikiLeaks could result in breaking the law: DoD totally losing its shit.


Hey guys, check it out, I just got the latest copy of the Bill Cooper Memorial Newsletter!

Zionazi Stooge Assangenstein Making Out with Schoolkids, Winos & Heads of State edition

See, this is why every Real American needs to be doubly careful around the the Clever Jew, because The Jew is adept at making his calculated moves part of his strategy of Ordo ab Chao, so much so that what is in fact a carefully calculated manuevuer to gain World Jewry Control looks to the unsuspecting observer like a etc etc etc


Whatever. Somewhere between near-empty threats at super-rich college kids and banning every major news outlet in the world, well, you say "right-wing Republican Neo-Nazi plot to undermine Obama's diplomatic efforts to intensify drone bombing in Afghanistan to serve as pro-Israeli anti-Iran propaganda by carefully protected homosexual agents controlled by the etc.", I say TOTALLY NEUROTIC MASS PSYCHOLOGICAL FREAKOUT SHITSHOW.


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Re: The Wikileaks Question

Postby Penguin » Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:52 am

Wikileaks asks for willing hosters for complete mirrors of the site:

In order to make it impossible to ever fully remove Wikileaks from the Internet, we need your help.

if you have a unix-based server which is hosting a website on the Internet and you want to give wikileaks some of your hosting resources, you can help!

Please follow the following instructions:

Setup an account where we can upload files using RSYNC+SSH (preferred) or FTP
Put our SSH key in this server or create an FTP account
Create a virtual host in your web server, which, for example, can be wikileaks.yourdomain.com
send the IP address of your server to us, and the path where we should upload the content. (just fill the form below)
We will take care of all the rest: Sending pages to your server, updating them each time data is released, maintaining a list of such mirrors. If your server is down or if the account don't work anymore, we will automatically remove your server from the list.

Our content is only html/css/javascript/png static files, so we don't require much resource to host it.

The complete website should not take more than a couple of GB at the moment (with base website and cablegate data)

To add your mirror to the list, please download the SSH key you will find below, then fill the following form to add your website to our mirror list : ...


http://213.251.145.96/mass-mirror.html (by direct IP)
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Re: The Wikileaks Question

Postby justdrew » Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:11 am

looking at the torrent activity levels, I would say there are hundreds of thousands of people downloading this over the course of the last few days, going forward I would think a million or more may have at least partial copies.

downloads are also available for the entire past history of content.

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Re: The Wikileaks Question

Postby nathan28 » Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:19 pm

Check it out, the ZioNazi propaganda efforts even include the State Dep't not only questioning att'y-client privilege, but also suggesting that Assange has no right to representation and that anyone attempting to represent him is not a lawyer, but an accessory. Definitely a sign of this being completely stage-managed, just like intimidating the entire student body at the Future Leaders of America busy getting experience for their careers by driving black and latino people out Manhattan by attending Columbia.

Julian Assange's lawyers say they are being watched
WikiLeaks founder's lawyers also accuse US state department of inappropriate behaviour in not respecting attorney-client protocol


Lawyers representing the WikiLeaks founder, Julian Assange, say that they have been surveilled by members of the security services and have accused the US state department of behaving "inappropriately" by failing to respect attorney-client protocol.

Jennifer Robinson and Mark Stephens of the law firm Finers Stephens Innocent told the Guardian they had been watched by people parked outside their houses for the past week.

"I've noticed people consistently sitting outside my house in the same cars with newspapers," said Robinson. "I probably noticed certain things a week ago, but mostly it's been the last three or four days."

Stephens said he, too, had had his home watched.
Asked who he thought was monitoring him, he said: "The security services."

Robinson said the legal team was also experiencing "other forms of pressure" from Washington.

She pointed to a letter from a state department legal adviser – addressed to both Assange and her – which appeared to bracket together client and lawyer as if to suggest that WikiLeaks and its lawyers were one and the same.

The letter, which was released to the press, begins: "Dear Ms Robinson and Mr Assange. I am writing in response to your 26 November 2010 letter to US Ambassador Louis B Susman regarding your intention to again publish on your WikiLeaks site what you claim to be classified US government documents..."


http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/05/julian-assange-lawyers-being-watched



But it's not just college kids:


Administration to Fed Workers: Don't Read WikiLeaks

In a case of closing the barn door after the horses are out, federal employees are being warned not to look at documents leaked by WikiLeaks website, noting that despite their wide release, the hundreds of thousands of stolen papers are still classified by the U.S. government.
An internal memo sent late last week from the Office of Management and Budget and obtained by Fox News says that federal employees and contractors are "obligated to protect classified information pursuant to all applicable laws, and to use government information technology systems in accordance with agency procedures so that the integrity of such systems is not compromised."
The memo, which calls the disclosure damaging to national security, must be "declassified by an appropriate U.S. government authority" before it can be viewed by personnel that don't have the security clearance...


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/12/05/administration-fed-workers-dont-read-wikileaks/






So far, the following people have been threatened re: wikileaks:

College kids
Standard-issue GIs
Lawyers
Gov't office workers waiting for the clocks to hit 5:00 PM

But this is, of course, all for show. I mean, I threaten schoolkids almost every day. For national security.



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Re: The Wikileaks Question

Postby nathan28 » Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:43 pm

Meanwhile, TPTB are playing up the other side of the Hegelian Dialectic** with special cognitive dissonance technologies with a press in the media to downplay the significance of all of this.

Thesis: Make a federal holiday, call for Assange to be dragged from Times Square to Ground Zero, drawn and quartered then fired on by a drone with a .50 cal auto
Antithesis: Publish in the NY Times how 'insignificant' WikiLeaks is after calling for assassination
Synthesis: TOTAL ZIONAZI WORLD CONTROL


WikiLeaks Backfires by Exposing Hidden U.S. Virtue: Albert Hunt

..Still, rather than exposing ineptitude, the secret documents actually reflect well on U.S. policy and diplomacy... Most of the cables, along with the good gossip, reflect similar professionalism, probably to the consternation of the WikiLeaks crowd.


It's totally professional to steal credit card numbers and collect hair and DNA samples from one's colleagues and peers. I do all the time! Is the US dip-corps the slutty kleptomaniac secretary of the global diplomatic office?

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-12-05/wikileaks-backfires-by-exposing-hidden-u-s-virtue-albert-hunt.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/06/us/06iht-letter.html?_r=1

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I was just trying to help Mr. Moon find his credit card in the Pakistani files!




I mean, 100% transparent ass-covering bullshit is definitely indicative of this being a propaganda operation.



**Which conspiritard popularized that bullshit misapplication of terms? Did they ever read any Hegel? Did they even finish high school? Do they even know who the fuck he is? Is earth being turned into a prison planet, or is it being turned into a really stupid-ass remedial ed program?
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Re: The Wikileaks Question

Postby barracuda » Mon Dec 06, 2010 12:09 am

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