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IanEye wrote:On the very morning of 09/11 the Today Show reminded us that later that same day they would be running a story on 911.
Byrne wrote:Wombaticus Rex wrote:Can you explain how that would actually relate to Hugh's theories, though? This passing comment seems like a category error.
Category error? [ explain yersel' ] it may be, but the fact that the 911 keyword was touted that morning, for a later explanation within that full evening TeeVee program ....
I'm sure you can see the hijack in that? Or the coincidence in that
How this relates to HMW's theories is that Hugh posits implicit connections of media gerrymandering of public perception of events.
& the early morning TV broadcat pre-empts & prepares the 911 keyword, for all to suckle on later
JackRiddler wrote:who decided to run a story on this subject and why?
Was there a prompting event
IanEye wrote:JackRiddler wrote:who decided to run a story on this subject and why?
Was there a prompting event
nightly network newcasts love alliteration.
911 on 9/11 is the numerical equivalent of alliteration.
sunny wrote:Nordic wrote:FWIW Cowboys and Aliens was in development for about 20 years. So it's not like they came up with it in reaction to the recent Afghanistan and Iraq invasions.
It could have been, I suppose, a reaction to the first gulf war in 1990.
But I found out about it in about 1992 or so, and it may have been in development even before that.
I think they just liked the title and figured something out to go along with that.
Still, like I wrote previously, and in my blog post, it sure seems to share a point of view, doesn't it?
Hmm, sorry Nordic to use your comment to make this point; I know you'll hate it. But maybe, just may this is partially how HMW's keyword hijacking theory could work. As in, there must be what? tens of thousands of scripts on file? Scripts on every conceivable subject. In development limbo until it needs to be deployed for psyops. Not that the writers themselves are complicit, necessarily, just that the execs have access to all this pre-written MATERIAL that can be plucked from the files, tweaked just so and fast tracked onto the screen just in time to coincide with a needed distraction for covert actions/information releases etc etc that are planned well in advance.
Just a theory.
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=33955&start=30
on page 2 of this thread I wrote:Mockingjay
Concept: No reported activity; release likely many years away (if ever) as of June 1, 2011.
Synopsis: The final book of the trilogy although Lionsgate has the rights for four movie and will likely extend the franchise if successful at the box office. Since it is early in the development process, unknown how the script will differ from the book.
http://www.movieinsider.com/m9160/mockingjay/Mockingjay is a 2010 young adult dystopian novel by American author Suzanne Collins. It is the third installment of The Hunger Games trilogy, following 2008's The Hunger Games and 2009's Catching Fire, and continues the story of Katniss Everdeen, who agrees to lead the rebellion against the rulers of the futuristic society of Panem. The series was inspired by the Greek myth of Theseus and the Minotaur and the Roman Gladiator games. Reviewers have noted that it tackles issues such as loyalty, war, and poverty.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mockingjay
JackRiddler wrote:For the same reason that planners of the attack may have chosen a date that spells out 9-1-1, to associate it with permanent emergency, NBC News probably chose to run a 911 story on 9/11..
JackRiddler wrote:IanEye wrote:JackRiddler wrote:who decided to run a story on this subject and why?
Was there a prompting event
nightly network newcasts love alliteration.
911 on 9/11 is the numerical equivalent of alliteration.
For the same reason that planners of the attack may have chosen a date that spells out 9-1-1, to associate it with permanent emergency, NBC News probably chose to run a 911 story on 9/11. Exactly what I thought, but avoided saying because of the chance it will lead to a long and pointless exchange in which someone insinuates I'm "defending" (or on the payroll of) the Real Perpetrators/NBC, etc.
Schneider lawsuit Chile 9/11/73 Washington Post - Google Search
1. Salvador Allende - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"On 11 September 1973 the military, citing a call by the Chilean Congress to end his ... After Allende's ousting, Chile was led by a military junta, and then as a .... the Popular Unity, General René Schneider, Commander in Chief of the Chilean .... combined with his close contacts with Cuba, heightened fears in Washington."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvador_Allende
2. Charles Horman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"... Allende, after bombing the Chilean presidential palace on September 11, 1973 . ... Ambassador to Chile from 1971 to 1973, filed a USD 150 million libel suit against the ... However, in October 1999, Washington finally released a document ... the murder of René Schneider, the Commander-in-Chief in the Chilean army ..."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Horman
3. 1973 Chilean coup d'état - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"The 1973 Chilean coup d'état was a watershed event of the Cold War and the history of .... René Schneider after his assassination on 24 October 1970 by the groups of Gen. .... disclosed a memo of ITT's Washington lobbyist, Dita Beard, which revealed a ... By 7:00 am on 11 September 1973, the Navy captured Valparaíso, ..."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_Chilean_coup_d'%C3%A9tat
4. Salvador Allende
"Military courts in Chile found that Schneider's death was caused by two military ... A CIA document written just after Allende was elected said: "It is firm and ... On 11th September, 1973, a military coup removed Allende's government from power. ... they filed a $3 million civil suit in Washington last fall against Mr. Kissinger, ..."
www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/COLDallende.htm
5. Kissinger sued over Chile death | World news | The Guardian
"12 Sep 2001 ... The family of the Chilean military commander Rene Schneider, killed ... other Nixon administration officials, the Washington Post reported yesterday. ... three years and died on September 11 1973 during a military coup led by ..."
www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/sep/12/2
6. The Pinochet files | World news | guardian.co.uk
"10 Sep 2003 ... September 11 1973 was a day of terror and bloodshed in Chile. After months of rising tension, army troops stormed the presidential palace, ... Kornbluh of the National Security Archives, a Washington-based investigative centre. ... Citing documents declassified in the past few years, the lawsuit alleges that ..."
www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/sep/10/ch ... anfranklin
7. Dictator Removal Service?
"29 Jan 2003 ... Of course, in the event, Schneider was simply assassinated with the ... $50000 to the conspirators shortly after the murder of Schneider.(Source: the BBC). On September 11, 1973, the Chilean military rose up against ... on the streets of Washington D.C. His American associate, Ronni Moffit, was also killed."
www.spectacle.org/0303/dictator.html
8. Henry Kissinger - war criminal on the run? - World's alleged number ...
"11Sep01 - Washington Post - Family of Slain Chilean Sues Kissinger ..... in particular: the 1970 assassination of a Chilean general, René Schneider; the September ..... Photograph lawsuit - Kissinger picking his nose and eating the bogey?"
bilderberg.org/kissing.htm
9. THE FIRST 9/11 – KISSINGER, OPERACIÓN CÓNDOR, PINOCHET
"9 Mar 2011 ... The first 9/11 occurred in 1973 in Santiago, Chile and places nearby. President ... But, after the 'Watergate' affaires, only Mitchell ended ... Washington University in Washington, D.C., written by the U.S. Ambassador to Chile, .... Schneider was a defender of the 'constitutionalist' doctrine that the Army's role is ..."
www.countercurrents.org/venturini090311.pdf
10. 11th September, 1973: The Chilean Coup
"11 Sep 2006 ... The Chilean thing is getting consolidated and of course the newspapers are ... M. Korry, the U.S. Ambassador to Chile after hearing the results of the election. Indeed, the election of Allende was not welcomed by Washington. ... However, General Rene Schneider, the Army Chief of Staff had equally great ..."
www.canadafreepress.com/2006/ludwig091106.htm
11. Lawsuit Filed 9/10/01 vs. Kissinger, Helms etc. for 9/11/73
"Post Lawsuit Filed 9/10/01 vs. Kissinger, Helms etc. for 9/11/73 ... filed a federal lawsuit in Washington YESTERDAY accusing Henry A. Kissinger, ... Schneider was the left-leaning head of the Chilean Armed Forces, and his ..."
rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=3997
12. The Other 9/11: The United States and Chile, 1973 | Foreign Affairs
"Thirty years after the overthrow of Salvador Allende in Chile, The Pinochet ... the assassination of Chile's chief of staff, General Rene Schneider, in 1970; ... active involvement in the September 11, 1973, coup against Allende; and the assassination in Washington, D.C., of Orlando Letelier, the former Chilean foreign minister, ..."
www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/59382/k ... ?page=show
13. September 11, 1973--Chile's Red Regime Ousted in Coup
"Posted on 09/11/2002 10:51:05 AM PDT by Taft in '52 ... participants in the solemn commemoration recalled Washington's role in the establishment of a terrorist regime in that nation. ... Allende have filed a lawsuit against Kissinger in a US federal court, ... Schneider was assassinated, but Allende took office as scheduled."
www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/748789/posts
14. About This Issue
"have provided articles on two lawsuits filed in Washington ... disappeared immediately after Pinochet's coup in Chile,” ... being brought by Schneider's family. ..... days following the Military Coup, that is, September 11,. 1973, when Charles ..."
www.icai-online.org/xp_resources/kissin ... atch_4.pdf
15. AllGov - Nations - Chile
"Three years later, on September 11, 1973, General Augusto Pinochet led a military coup that .... Democracy returned to Chile, although Pinochet held on to his post of ... For the rest of his life, Pinochet had to fight off lawsuits and accept the ... staff, General René Schneider, in 1970 and the assassination in Washington, D.C., ..."
www.allgov.com/nation/Chile
16. Henry Kissinger
"He is the subject of lawsuits in Chile and the US for his role in the assassination of General Rene Schneider, the Chilean military commander whose elimination paved the way for the .... By Bill Miller, Washington Post, September 11, 2001 ..."
www.oilempire.us/kissinger.html
17. Róbinson Rojas.- Puro Chile. The memory of the people.-Pinochet ...
"Gen Pinochet is being sued by Chile's authorities for tax fraud and faces a money -laundering inquiry. ---------------- Daughter ... The Washington Post files on Pinochet and his gang of criminals. Andre Gunder ... Chile, September 11, 1973: The Ingredients of a Military Coup ... C. Schneider: Chile: the underside of the miracle ..."
www.purochile.rrojasdatabank.info/indexen4.htm
18. RW ONLINE: The U.S.-Backed Coup In Chile
"Revolutionary Worker #1214, October 5, 2003, posted at rwor.org ... and, in the days after September 11, 1973, as a floating torture chamber. ... Schneider ( before the coup) and Carlos Pratt (after the coup while in exile in Argentina). ... and his American assistant, killed by a car bomb while living in Washington, D.C. in 1976."
rwor.org/a/1214/awtw-chile.htm
19. Memoria y Justicia - In Focus-Pisagua
"In the early hours of September 11, 1973 the Chilean Naval fleet, which had ... wife were advised of death in Santiago, Chile on October 18, 1973, after remains .... assurance that the deaths would not bring "adverse effects" from Washington, D.C. ... through attorney Peter Weiss, represented the Horman family in a civil suit ..."
www.memoriayjusticia.cl/english/en_focus-horman.html
20. Is Henry Kissinger a War Criminal?
"11 Jun 2002 ... Thirty years after the death of Charles Horman inspired a bestseller and an ... Head of Kissinger Associates, Inc., international consulting firm in Washington. ... decision to depose Mr. Allende on Sept. 11, 1973, hundreds of the leftist .... a $3- million (U.S.) lawsuit by the family of René Schneider, a Chilean ..."
Schneider lawsuit Chile 9/11/73 Washington Post - Google Search
1. Salvador Allende - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"On 11 September 1973 the military, citing a call by the Chilean Congress to end his ... After Allende's ousting, Chile was led by a military junta, and then as a .... the Popular Unity, General René Schneider, Commander in Chief of the Chilean .... combined with his close contacts with Cuba, heightened fears in Washington."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvador_Allende
2. Charles Horman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"... Allende, after bombing the Chilean presidential palace on September 11, 1973 . ... Ambassador to Chile from 1971 to 1973, filed a USD 150 million libel suit against the ... However, in October 1999, Washington finally released a document ... the murder of René Schneider, the Commander-in-Chief in the Chilean army ..."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Horman
3. 1973 Chilean coup d'état - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"The 1973 Chilean coup d'état was a watershed event of the Cold War and the history of .... René Schneider after his assassination on 24 October 1970 by the groups of Gen. .... disclosed a memo of ITT's Washington lobbyist, Dita Beard, which revealed a ... By 7:00 am on 11 September 1973, the Navy captured Valparaíso, ..."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_Chilean_coup_d'%C3%A9tat
4. Salvador Allende
"Military courts in Chile found that Schneider's death was caused by two military ... A CIA document written just after Allende was elected said: "It is firm and ... On 11th September, 1973, a military coup removed Allende's government from power. ... they filed a $3 million civil suit in Washington last fall against Mr. Kissinger, ..."
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/COLDallende.htm
5. Kissinger sued over Chile death | World news | The Guardian
"12 Sep 2001 ... The family of the Chilean military commander Rene Schneider, killed ... other Nixon administration officials, the Washington Post reported yesterday. ... three years and died on September 11 1973 during a military coup led by ..."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/sep/12/2
6. The Pinochet files | World news | guardian.co.uk
"10 Sep 2003 ... September 11 1973 was a day of terror and bloodshed in Chile. After months of rising tension, army troops stormed the presidential palace, ... Kornbluh of the National Security Archives, a Washington-based investigative centre. ... Citing documents declassified in the past few years, the lawsuit alleges that ..."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/se ... anfranklin
7. Dictator Removal Service?
"29 Jan 2003 ... Of course, in the event, Schneider was simply assassinated with the ... $50000 to the conspirators shortly after the murder of Schneider.(Source: the BBC). On September 11, 1973, the Chilean military rose up against ... on the streets of Washington D.C. His American associate, Ronni Moffit, was also killed."
http://www.spectacle.org/0303/dictator.html
8. Henry Kissinger - war criminal on the run? - World's alleged number ...
"11Sep01 - Washington Post - Family of Slain Chilean Sues Kissinger ..... in particular: the 1970 assassination of a Chilean general, René Schneider; the September ..... Photograph lawsuit - Kissinger picking his nose and eating the bogey?"
bilderberg.org/kissing.htm
9. THE FIRST 9/11 – KISSINGER, OPERACIÓN CÓNDOR, PINOCHET
"9 Mar 2011 ... The first 9/11 occurred in 1973 in Santiago, Chile and places nearby. President ... But, after the 'Watergate' affaires, only Mitchell ended ... Washington University in Washington, D.C., written by the U.S. Ambassador to Chile, .... Schneider was a defender of the 'constitutionalist' doctrine that the Army's role is ..."
http://www.countercurrents.org/venturini090311.pdf
10. 11th September, 1973: The Chilean Coup
"11 Sep 2006 ... The Chilean thing is getting consolidated and of course the newspapers are ... M. Korry, the U.S. Ambassador to Chile after hearing the results of the election. Indeed, the election of Allende was not welcomed by Washington. ... However, General Rene Schneider, the Army Chief of Staff had equally great ..."
http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/ludwig091106.htm
11. Lawsuit Filed 9/10/01 vs. Kissinger, Helms etc. for 9/11/73
"Post Lawsuit Filed 9/10/01 vs. Kissinger, Helms etc. for 9/11/73 ... filed a federal lawsuit in Washington YESTERDAY accusing Henry A. Kissinger, ... Schneider was the left-leaning head of the Chilean Armed Forces, and his ..."
rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=3997
12. The Other 9/11: The United States and Chile, 1973 | Foreign Affairs
"Thirty years after the overthrow of Salvador Allende in Chile, The Pinochet ... the assassination of Chile's chief of staff, General Rene Schneider, in 1970; ... active involvement in the September 11, 1973, coup against Allende; and the assassination in Washington, D.C., of Orlando Letelier, the former Chilean foreign minister, ..."
http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/ ... ?page=show
13. September 11, 1973--Chile's Red Regime Ousted in Coup
"Posted on 09/11/2002 10:51:05 AM PDT by Taft in '52 ... participants in the solemn commemoration recalled Washington's role in the establishment of a terrorist regime in that nation. ... Allende have filed a lawsuit against Kissinger in a US federal court, ... Schneider was assassinated, but Allende took office as scheduled."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/748789/posts
14. About This Issue
"have provided articles on two lawsuits filed in Washington ... disappeared immediately after Pinochet's coup in Chile,” ... being brought by Schneider's family. ..... days following the Military Coup, that is, September 11,. 1973, when Charles ..."
http://www.icai-online.org/xp_resources ... atch_4.pdf
15. AllGov - Nations - Chile
"Three years later, on September 11, 1973, General Augusto Pinochet led a military coup that .... Democracy returned to Chile, although Pinochet held on to his post of ... For the rest of his life, Pinochet had to fight off lawsuits and accept the ... staff, General René Schneider, in 1970 and the assassination in Washington, D.C., ..."
http://www.allgov.com/nation/Chile
16. Henry Kissinger
"He is the subject of lawsuits in Chile and the US for his role in the assassination of General Rene Schneider, the Chilean military commander whose elimination paved the way for the .... By Bill Miller, Washington Post, September 11, 2001 ..."
http://www.oilempire.us/kissinger.html
17. Róbinson Rojas.- Puro Chile. The memory of the people.-Pinochet ...
"Gen Pinochet is being sued by Chile's authorities for tax fraud and faces a money -laundering inquiry. ---------------- Daughter ... The Washington Post files on Pinochet and his gang of criminals. Andre Gunder ... Chile, September 11, 1973: The Ingredients of a Military Coup ... C. Schneider: Chile: the underside of the miracle ..."
http://www.purochile.rrojasdatabank.info/indexen4.htm
18. RW ONLINE: The U.S.-Backed Coup In Chile
"Revolutionary Worker #1214, October 5, 2003, posted at rwor.org ... and, in the days after September 11, 1973, as a floating torture chamber. ... Schneider ( before the coup) and Carlos Pratt (after the coup while in exile in Argentina). ... and his American assistant, killed by a car bomb while living in Washington, D.C. in 1976."
rwor.org/a/1214/awtw-chile.htm
19. Memoria y Justicia - In Focus-Pisagua
"In the early hours of September 11, 1973 the Chilean Naval fleet, which had ... wife were advised of death in Santiago, Chile on October 18, 1973, after remains .... assurance that the deaths would not bring "adverse effects" from Washington, D.C. ... through attorney Peter Weiss, represented the Horman family in a civil suit ..."
http://www.memoriayjusticia.cl/english/ ... orman.html
20. Is Henry Kissinger a War Criminal?
"11 Jun 2002 ... Thirty years after the death of Charles Horman inspired a bestseller and an ... Head of Kissinger Associates, Inc., international consulting firm in Washington. ... decision to depose Mr. Allende on Sept. 11, 1973, hundreds of the leftist .... a $3- million (U.S.) lawsuit by the family of René Schneider, a Chilean ..."
Spiegel: The assassination of your father was planned
to induce the military to stage a coup d’Etat against the
detested Allende.
Schneider: It is not acceptable that my father “was to
be removed” in the interest of the USA, as Kissinger said
more or less literally according to a tape. My father, like
many other soldiers from Latin America, attended training
courses in the US and was not anti-American. He merely
defended the Constitution of his country.
Spiegel: What do you want to achieve with your
lawsuit, 32 years after the murder?
Schneider: First, I want to make clear that it is a civil
suit and not criminal proceedings. Our aim is to open a
trial. It would also be of great importance for a judge to
rule that Kissinger bears individual responsibility for his
acts. This important step was taken by the courts with
respect to Pinochet, who could not hide behind his official
position. The court proceedings were only abandoned due
to health reasons.
Spiegel: Why has the process against Kissinger stalled?
Schneider: Kissinger’s defence lawyers claim that the
State -and not the individual- was responsible for the actions.
Since these were political decisions, Congress has to decide
on this, not the courts. The defence has presented this
position – now we are waiting for the judges’ statement.
Searcher08 wrote:Hugh, are you not going to engage with Sepka's Original Post? No 1 Feb 6th 2012
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