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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby Nordic » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:52 pm

The Deep State wants Hillary for 2 things -- to finally get their war with Russia, and the TPP.

They're not running against Trump's racism. But they want us to feel VERY STRONGLY about his racism.

He's providing his own bait.

Outrage against Trump is what they want you to feel. Me, I'd rather have a blowhard racist than the TPP and war with Russia. I'm weird.

Not voting for the guy, I'm voting for Stein, but it seems to me the first priority should be keeping Hillary out of the White House.

It's gonna be difficult to feel self satisfied about beating Trump when the retaliatory Russian nukes start to fall.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby Agent Orange Cooper » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:00 pm

Nordic » Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:52 pm wrote:They're not running against Trump's racism. But they want us to feel VERY STRONGLY about his racism.


yeah, but I dunno, judging by this thread, do you really think it's working?
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:03 pm




go with the racist...you white males have nothing to worry about...so why not?


what's working here is outing racists

oh so worried about a nuclear war with Russia so I'm for the racist....give me a break....trump would push that button so fast the minute he got a nasty tweet

no reason to make excuses for liking racists

Trump staff posts racist comments on social media, AP review finds

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Some of the social media postings by Donald Trump campaign staff members discovered by the Associated Press in an online search.
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Donald Trump's paid campaign staffers on their personal social media accounts have declared that Muslims are unfit to be U.S. citizens, ridiculed Mexican accents, called for Secretary of State John F. Kerry to be hanged and stated their readiness for a possible civil war, according to a review by the Associated Press of their postings.

The AP examined the social media feeds of more than 50 current and former campaign employees who helped propel Trump through the primary elections. The campaign has employed a mix of veteran political operatives and outsiders. Most come across as dedicated, enthusiastic partisans, but at least seven expressed views that were overtly racially charged, supportive of violent actions or broadly hostile to Muslims.

A graphic designer for Trump's advance team approvingly posted video of a black man eating fried chicken and criticizing fellow blacks for what he said was ignorance, irresponsibility and having too many children. A Trump field organizer in Virginia declared that Muslims were seeking to impose Sharia law in America and that "those who understand Islam for what it is are gearing up for the fight."

The AP's findings come at a time when Trump is showing new interest in appealing to minority voters, insisting he will be fair in dealing with the 11 million people in the U.S. illegally and explicitly pitching himself to African Americans, saying "what do you have to lose?"

Since Trump declared his candidacy last summer, he has paid about 120 people on his campaign, according to Federal Election Commission filings. Over the weekend, the campaign reported about 70 people drawing salaries, a number that did not include a few dozen more working as consultants. A slew of hires in early August were not yet reflected in Trump's filings.

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The AP was able to review the accounts of only a minority of Trump staffers: Others set their accounts to private, some could not be found or identified with confidence as Trump campaign employees.

The AP also reviewed the public social media accounts of more than three dozen employees of Hillary Clinton's far larger campaign staff and found nothing as inflammatory. One staffer said Trump's style of speaking reminded him of a roommate who had taken too many hallucinogenic mushrooms. AP also reviewed images attached to more than 19,000 stolen internal emails from the Democratic National Committee for racially or religiously inflammatory memes, finding nothing of note.


The Clinton campaign declined to comment on its procedures for vetting staff. It employs more than 650 people, according to its FEC filings.

One month ago, the AP sent written questions to the Trump campaign with examples of the posts. The campaign has not commented, despite several requests since.

Veteran Republican campaign operatives said keeping an eye on staffers' social media postings has long been a standard practice.

"In vetting a prospective staffer, I'm not sure where the line would be for not hiring someone or simply asking them to take something down from social media, but there is a line," said Beth Myers, a former top Mitt Romney campaign aide.

During Myers' work for Mitt Romney in the 2008 and 2012 presidential campaigns, she said, social media was newer, so indiscreet or embarrassing photos were more often the concern rather than inflammatory views. Even outside social media, she emphasized to the campaigns' staffers that what they said and did would reflect on the candidate who employed them. "Don't put anything in an email that you wouldn't want on the front page of the New York Times," she recalled telling staff. "The same thing I told my kids, I told my staffers."

The AP found little questionable content in the ranks of Trump's top officials. The campaign's social media director, Dan Scavino, tweets prolifically but avoids discussing race and religion. Field organizers representing Trump's campaign around the country, however, have had no such reservations, either before or during their employment with the campaign. Their judgment matters beyond the campaign because the paid staff members of winning presidential candidates often receive jobs in the next administration.

Before being tapped as statewide director of coalitions, Craig Bachler of Bradenton, Fla., posted jokes in 2015 about Mexican accents superimposed over pictures of an overweight man wearing a sombrero. Bachler was named by the campaign as official staff in November, though there is no record he has been paid for his work. Bachler did not respond to a request for comment via Facebook or a message left at his office voicemail. After AP's inquiries, Bachler blocked access to an AP reporter, and his Facebook account — which included a photo of Bachler with Trump — was scrubbed to remove the offensive post.

Teresa Unrue, a field organizer and graphic designer in Myrtle Beach, S.C., for Trump's advance team, shared a video on her Facebook account July 11 — the week before the Republican National Convention — of a black man eating fried chicken while shaming fellow black people.

"Why are you mad about slavery?" the man asks. "Y'all weren't no damn slaves."

"Had me crack'n up!! Thank you!" Unrue wrote of the video. "Please share this with people."

In a short phone conversation, Unrue said she tried to keep her personal social media comments positive and referred questions to the campaign.

Some posts fixated on stories of black-on-white violence with claims that news about such crimes was being suppressed.

"How about this little white boy being murdered by a black man," grassroots organizer Annie Marie Delgado of Palm Beach Gardens, Fla., wrote in a December 2014 post, one of a number highlighting crimes against white people before Trump declared his candidacy. Delgado also shared a discredited, hoax photo of the State Department's Kerry with Jane Fonda, and commented: "I say hang them!" She was paid $11,146 through April, according to campaign records.

Fear or dislike of Muslims was a recurring theme. Though Trump at one point proposed temporarily barring foreign Muslims from entering the country and scrutinizing the activities of mosques, he has sometimes distinguished Islamic extremists who pose a risk and those who don't. "I love the Muslims," Trump said in September, expressing willingness to appoint one to his Cabinet.

On Facebook, Mark Kevin Lloyd of Lynchburg, Va., who has been paid $36,000 as Trump's field director in the state, shared a post June 30 calling Islam "a barbaric cult." He shared a meme June 16, four days after the Orlando, Fla., nightclub shooting by a heavily armed Muslim who professed allegiance to the Islamic State group. The meme said people should be forced to eat bacon before they can purchase firearms.

Lloyd declined to talk to the AP without the Trump campaign's permission, citing his nondisclosure agreement with the campaign.

Other campaign staffers also singled out Muslims for special scrutiny.

Unrue shared the statement, "We need Islam control, not gun control."

During her time with the campaign, Delgado deplored the appointment of a Muslim American judge in New York.

"Step by step... this is how American culture will end," she wrote Feb. 27, saying it was only reasonable to believe that the judge would implement Sharia law.

Delgado said in a telephone interview she stopped working for the campaign in April. She said she did not recall making some of the posts the AP asked her about and does not stand by others.

"If I read the whole thing, I probably wouldn't have posted it," she said of one post she shared, a short essay declaring that Muslims are inherently incapable of being good Americans.

Phillip Dann, a field organizer in Massachusetts who recently relocated to Florida, was paid $6,153 between January and March. He shared a meme mocking "Muslim sympathizers." He also shared an article about Trump threatening to bring back waterboarding "or worse," and added "where is the gasoline?" Dann told the AP in a phone interview he had no antipathy against Muslims in general.

Dann attributed inflammatory comments of other Trump staffers to the fact that the campaign had drawn on people inexperienced in politics. While he has been politically active for decades — originally as a leftist, he said — he described the field staff Trump acquired in the primary as unfamiliar with traditional campaign rules.

"We get hired because there was no one left," Dann said. In a later email, he acknowledged some of his and other staff postings were "clearly over the top" — but said that criticism of the posts would amount to intimidation.

Scott Barrish, who earned $12,250 as Trump's political director for the Tampa Bay, Fla., region, took his views beyond social media posts. In 2011, he drew local news media coverage for writing to the head of the nonprofit Council on American-Islamic Relations, an advocacy group for Muslims in the U.S., saying he was wise to its plans to establish a totalitarian theocracy in the United states.

"This is us vs. you," wrote Barrish. "In the great words of the late President Ronald Reagan, 'I win, you lose!'"

Separately, Barrish tweeted in 2013 that he hoped America wasn't headed for civil war, but "if our freedoms must be defended against a tyrannical government, so be it."

"Those comments at that time were made by me and were my own personal view," Barrish said in a brief interview with AP. He said he stopped working for Trump's campaign after the Florida primary. "I don't want to detract anything from the campaign."

Barrish separately complained to editors at AP about its review of publicly accessible material on Trump employees' social media accounts, saying "the liberal media, yellow journalists are really grasping at straws with their ad hominem circumstantial logical fallacies!"

Many accounts AP reviewed embraced conspiracy theories. Lloyd, the Virginia field director, said Obama is aiding the Iranian nuclear program as part of the president's "'final solution' to the Israel problem," a phrase evoking the Holocaust.

Delgado, the Florida organizer, circulated a theory that the company Edible Arrangements LLC is funneling money to Hamas, a claim that the Anti-Defamation League, a U.S. Jewish organization, has repeatedly dismissed as false.

Unrue posted a link to a website that alleged that the U.S. government assassinated Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, who died earlier this year after a history of heart trouble.

Racially charged social media posts from Trump campaign employees and associates have already been a repeated source of embarrassment. Trump fired one advisor who had used a racial slur to describe Obama's children, and the campaign denounced Trump's longtime Mar-a-Lago butler for saying he would support dragging Obama from the White House and hanging him.

Katie Packer, a 2012 Romney deputy campaign manager who opposes Trump, said the social media posts AP reviewed would have all been immediate disqualifiers for anyone who had applied for a campaign job — even if the postings weren't visible to the public.

"A comfort level with people who think this is OK is indicative of what you think is OK," Packer said. "Maybe the campaign just doesn't know about this, but that's malpractice."
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby Nordic » Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:02 am

Ok we get it.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby Belligerent Savant » Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:55 am

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Oliver's bits can be a bit heavy-handed/self-righteous (and at times it may be justified, to an extent), but this may have been Con Man Trump's game all along:



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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:58 am

alright now this is really bizarre ...I was just about to post this :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mA4kk5EKdiQ

I figured I should lighten it up :)
I don't want Nordic mad at me forever
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby brekin » Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:24 am

Belligerent Savant » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:55 pm wrote:.
Oliver's bits can be a bit heavy-handed/self-righteous (and at times it may be justified, to an extent), but this may have been Con Man Trump's game all along:



Man, you know Trump could make America Great Again if he was just deep undercover this whole time to show how fucked up a system is that even would make him get far enough to be a serious presidential candidate. But (sigh) file that shit under too good to be true. I think the ptb would never let that fly, cause it's 1-8-7 on an undercover candidate.

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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby kool maudit » Tue Aug 23, 2016 4:28 am

The current neoliberal order employs its pluralism – which is a cynical pluralism borne of splitting the shrinking economic share held by ordinary people into highly mobile fragments so as to avoid collecting mass dissatisfaction in any one polity and thus risking revolt – as a shield. It will wave Hitler in your face at every opportunity. It maintains a stock of folk-devils and budgets for their promotion.

How much racism, or similar, is currently being faced by the Yazidis, by the Turkmen, by the Shabaks and by the Kurds under the (non) system imposed on the Middle East by Hillary Clinton and her neoconservative forebears?

There is a very real chance that voting for the "non-racist" US candidate* will increase the total stock of difference-begotten horror in the world by a significant amount.

(* Trump is essentially a civic nationalist who a lot of racists like. This is not the same as a racist, but is not neutral either. Hillary is a globalist hawk who US racists dislike but whose actions produce and inflame both racism and group-prejudices similar to racism – and as brutal as the US' worst excesses – at the empire's edges if not its centre.)
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby American Dream » Tue Aug 23, 2016 7:20 am

There is a basis in some of that for a left wing critique of the State, though it is also a variation on one of the arguments for voting Trump- albeit not a very convincing one at all...
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby kool maudit » Tue Aug 23, 2016 7:28 am

I have already noted on this thread that my interest in the US election extends solely to foreign policy. I don't really feel I have the right to comment on US domestic policy as a non-American.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby Pele'sDaughter » Tue Aug 23, 2016 7:45 am

Having made that disclaimer, why don't you go ahead and voice it if you have an opinion. I, for one, always appreciate an "outside" view. You may live elsewhere, but we're all in this together regardless. :thumbsup
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby 82_28 » Tue Aug 23, 2016 7:50 am

You have full right to comment on this bullshit here in the USA USA USA! We didn't ask for this. It fell in our laps. USA USA USA I found interesting watching the coverage of the Olympics was the chant. No other country did such a thing! Also I noticed that on the podiums the national anthem was not known by anyone. You could tell they were mouthing bullshit. Fuck, I can't even sing it, but other countries could. Why in triplicate? Chant three times and then pause. Do it again. I'm the most unamerican one could possibly find in the states but Jesus.

Oh fuck I just noticed there must be something to this triplicate shit. I have the morning news on in the background and trump just said "immediately immediately immediately."
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:15 am

here's one really good thing about Trump

He's brought to the forefront how many racists there are in this country

and who would vote for one

GTK


Sure Hitler was a racist but I like his foreign policy so I'm voting for him

Sure Hitler was a racist but it won't spill over into his foreign policy :roll: :P :P :P :P :P

Sure Hitler lies sometimes but I believe he wouldn't lie about the stuff that is important to me
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Aug 23, 2016 10:04 am

Donald Trump Still Supports Mass Deportation For Undocumented Immigrants

Donald Trump Jacked Up His Campaign’s Trump Tower Rent Once Somebody Else Was Paying It
Office rent soared in July after Trump’s campaign began accepting donor contributions.
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Donald Trump’s campaign is paying close to five times as much in rent in his Trump Tower than he was earlier, even though his campaign is employing fewer staff.
WASHINGTON ― After bragging for a year about how cheaply he was running his campaign, Donald Trump is spending more freely now that other people are contributing ― particularly when the beneficiary is himself.

Trump nearly quintupled the monthly rent his presidential campaign pays for its headquarters at Trump Tower to $169,758 in July, when he was raising funds from donors, compared with March, when he was self-funding his campaign, according to a Huffington Post review of Federal Election Commission filings. The rent jumped even though he was paying fewer staff in July than he did in March.

The Trump campaign paid Trump Tower Commercial LLC $35,458 in March ― the same amount it had been paying since last summer ― and had 197 paid employees and consultants. In July, it paid 172 employees and consultants.

“If I was a donor, I’d want answers,” said a prominent Republican National Committee member who supports Trump, asking for anonymity to speak freely. “If they don’t have any more staff, and they’re paying five times more? That’s the kind of stuff I’d read and try to make an (attack) ad out of it.”

“If I was a donor, I’d want answers. If they don’t have any more staff, and they’re paying five times more? That’s the kind of stuff I’d read and try to make an (attack) ad out of it.”
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In addition to the rent for Trump Tower space in Manhattan, Trump has paid his eponymous golf courses and restaurants more than $260,000 since his campaign and the RNC struck a joint fundraising deal in mid-May, after he essentially locked up the GOP nomination. On May 18, the day the fundraising deal was announced, Trump International Golf Club in West Palm Beach was paid $29,715; Trump National Golf Club in Jupiter, Florida, was paid $35,845; and Trump Restaurants LLC was paid $125,080, according to FEC records. Such large payments were much rarer when Trump was self-funding.

It’s unclear from the campaign filings the purpose of the golf course and restaurant payments, although both of the Florida golf courses hosted Trump campaign news conferences in March. Also unclear from the filings is whether Trump is using more space in Trump Tower than he was in the spring and, if he is, why, given that his staffing is lower.

The Trump campaign did not respond to The Huffington Post’s queries.

The FEC filings show that Trump began increasing the rent at Trump Tower starting with the May 31 payment of $72,800. The Trump campaign paid $110,684 in rent on June 9, and $169,758 on July 10.

The campaign’s number of paid employees and consultants went from 166 in May, to 139 in June, to 172 in July. How many of those actually worked in Trump Tower cannot be determined from the FEC filings, although typically only a small fraction of a presidential campaign’s staff works in the headquarters building. Last autumn, only about a dozen of the campaign’s several dozen paid employees worked in Manhattan.

Trump continues to fly to campaign events on his personal Boeing 757 airliner, even though the aging jet burns some $10,000 in fuel every hour. That has made air travel one of the biggest expense categories for his campaign. In July alone, $495,000 went to Trump’s company that owns the plane.

Prior to May, three-quarters of the $59 million spent by Trump’s campaign had come out of his own pocket ― meaning that whatever Trump charged his campaign for rent was largely coming from Trump himself.

That situation is now entirely reversed. Trump’s money makes up a tiny percentage of his campaign’s spending. The bulk now comes from outside donors, both small-dollar givers and those writing maximum-limit checks of $2,700.

“Nobody cares when you’re spending your own money, but when you’re spending the donor’s $27, that could cause problems,” the RNC member said, adding that small donors especially may not be sympathetic to Trump’s extravagance. “Most campaigns run on a much tighter budget.”

For many months, Trump’s campaign prided itself on its low-rent operation. It invited reporters in to tour its headquarters on the fifth floor of Trump Tower that had once been used as production offices for “The Apprentice” TV show, which starred Trump. Photos and video from those tours show work space with unfinished ceilings, makeshift drywall partitions, and only a few campaign workers.

Commercial real estate is available in the midtown Manhattan neighborhood in the range of $70 per square foot annually, although Trump has charged more than that. Trump Tower rented 9,000 feet of office space in December at $120 per square foot, but has been unable to rent a 15,000 square-foot office that includes six terraces overlooking Fifth Avenue, even at a discounted rent of $90 per square foot.

Democrat Hillary Clinton has been leasing two entire floors in a Brooklyn office building totaling 80,000 square feet since the start of her campaign. The rent for that space has been about $212,000 per month.

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Some of the unfinished office space in Trump Tower that the Trump campaign had been paying $35,000 a month for until May. The campaign paid nearly $170,000 for its Trump Tower space in July.


Editor’s note: Donald Trump regularly incites political violence and is a serial liar, rampant xenophobe, racist, misogynist and birther who has repeatedly pledged to ban all Muslims — 1.6 billion members of an entire religion — from entering the U.S.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Aug 23, 2016 10:20 am

and the only other thing I am glad that we have Trump.... :P :P

Donald Trump Implies Morning Joe Hosts Are Having An Affair — See The CRAZY Twitter War That Followed!

recently divorced morning Blow and the Meat Puppet are having an affair ...all new meaning to the phrase meat puppet
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